ISN Special Issue February 2008: The struggle for Gorkhaland ‘The First European Article on Gorkhaland’
Posted by barunroy on March 7, 2008

An article by Corinne Zurfluh, ISN (www.isn.ethz.ch )
Dear Reader,
The Himalayan foothills of Darjeeling are boiling again after 20 years of relative calm. Residents there have taken to the streets in the quest for independence from West Bengal and a separate state, Gorkhaland, within the framework of the Indian Constitution.
As with other low-intensity conflicts in India, such as Jharkhand and Uttarakhand, the Gorkhas seek independence from the state, but not the country. Within many Indian states, one ethnic group often dominates a number of linguistic, ethnic or religious minorities. This holds true for majority-Bengali West Bengal.
Separatist leaders have used complaints from the Gorkhas of neglect and domination by the Bengalis to mobilize the Nepali-speaking minority of the Darjeeling hills, emphasizing their common Gorkha identity. Yet, that very identity is controversial, and there is a lack of agreement among the locals on what “Gorkha” means.
The Gorkhas, an ethnic group originally from Nepal, migrated to India during and after British rule. Many were recruited for service in the colonial army. In today’s Darjeeling, however, the term Gorkha tends to be applied to all Nepali-speaking people. It is a political rather than an ethnic label to embrace a multi-ethnic group consisting of indigenous tribes of the area and Nepali immigrants with Indian citizenship. What unites them all is probably their common aversion to the Bengali majority.
The Bengalis own most places of business in the hills’ main towns. The Nepali-speaking locals, however, often perform menial jobs and resent the success of the Bengalis, whom they consider outsiders in the hills. Moreover, they blame the government of West Bengal for their underdevelopment.
But the Gorkhas are all but united. While the four-month-old Gorkha Janmukti Morcha (GJMM) party and its leader Bimal Gurung want nothing less than an independent Gorkhaland within India, the former radical Subash Ghisingh has dropped that idea in favor of a more viable solution: greater autonomy.
Ghisingh and his Gorkha National Liberation Front (GNLF) led a violent two-year conflict in the 1980s for a separate state. In 1988 he accepted a political settlement, signing a tripartite agreement with the governments in Kolkata and New Delhi that gave a great deal of autonomy to the newly founded Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council (DGHC), the governing body for the district of Darjeeling. Ghisingh has been the chairman of the DGHC since its inception.
In 2005, the same parties signed another tripartite in-principle memorandum of settlement to include Darjeeling in the Sixth Schedule of the Indian Constitution, which addresses administration of tribal areas. In the agreement, the DGHC would be granted more power. A standing committee in New Delhi is currently hearing arguments for and against the proposed constitutional amendment.
For the opposition parties, especially the GJMM and its leader Bimal Gurung, the Sixth Schedule solution is a betrayal to Gorkhaland. In fact, the sudden rise and appeal of a party like the GJMM is only possible in the light of the deep dissatisfaction of the Gorkhas of Darjeeling. In spite of Ghisingh’s many promises, not much has improved for the hill people in the last 20 years: Unemployment is high, towns face water shortages every summer and road conditions deteriorate with every monsoon and landslide.
While many are quick to blame the West Bengal government for neglecting the hills, others claim that it is as much the fault of the local administration and the ruling GNLF itself. They accuse the DGHC of siphoning funds and claim that some GNLF functionaries, including Ghisingh, have amassed personal fortunes with money allocated for development. These accusations have sparked strong anti-GNLF sentiments in Darjeeling and the surrounding villages.
Yet, many locals fear that neither autonomy nor independence will change their fate. They refer to the state of Jharkhand, where the tribal population was successful in gaining independence from the state of Bihar in 2000, as an example. Today, Jharkhand is still as dominated by Biharis as it was eight years ago.
New Delhi and Kolkata do not face an easy task. Scholars speculate about a “balkanization” of India, with minorities in other states being likely to follow the Gorkhas if India deems their area a separate state. If India denies the request, the conflict will likely turn violent. The autonomy granted to Darjeeling within the DGHC in 1988 was seen as a clever move on the part of the central government. Granting even more autonomy with the Sixth Schedule status seems a viable appeasement strategy. However, one should keep in mind that the Sixth Schedule is designed for the administration of tribal areas. It is therefore of utmost importance for the Gorkhaland movement to actually come to terms with their “tribal” identity.
A total shutdown called by the GJMM on 20 February has disrupted normal life in Darjeeling. GJMM supporters have also resumed a hunger strike that had been suspended for meeting with the state government. Since the parties have not reached an agreement, the GJMM announced that they will continue their protests until Subash Ghisingh is removed from power and the imposition of Sixth Schedule status dropped.
Corinne Zurfluh
ISN Editor
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS
Status Paper on the Internal Security Situation, by the Ministry of Home Affairs, New Delhi, India
This paper assesses the internal security situation in India as of the end of 2007. The main challenge for the government is political violence in Jammu and Kashmir, the northeastern states and in areas affected by the Naxalites. The paper offers statistical data on incidents and casualties and lists measures taken by the government to cope with internal security risks. It is noteworthy that the paper does not mention the current independence movements of Gorkhaland, Telangana or Bundelkhand.
RESEARCH AND ACADEMIA
Is Economic Inequality a Foundation of Separatist Identity? An Examination of Successful and Unsuccessful Movements in India, by Claremont Graduate University, US
This paper, presented at the Annual Meeting of Asian Studies on the Pacific Coast (ASPAC) in Honolulu in 2007, assesses the role of economic inequality in three successful movements in India. It looks at the movements which gave rise to the new states of Uttaranchal, Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh in 2000, and three ongoing movements: Telangana, Gorkhaland and Vidarbha.
National Minority Rights in the Himalayas, by the South Asia Institute, University of Heidelberg, Germany
This paper, published in 2004, discusses India’s multiculturalism, constitutionally prescribed in the Sixth Schedule that might be granted to Darjeeling in the near future. Because the Sixth Schedule provides for self-governance in tribal areas, the author scrutinizes the concept of “tribe” in the Darjeeling area. She states that the Gorkha identity being created is a pan-ethnic identity based on the Nepali language. She argues that this identity is socially constructed in opposition to the dominant Bengali culture of the state of West Bengal, in which Darjeeling is located.
Federalism and Regionalism in India: Institutional Strategies and Political Accomodation of Identity, by the South Asia Institute, University of Heidelberg, Germany
This article, published in 2005, discusses the “imminent balkanization” of post-independence India. The author examines the role played by Indian federalism in ensuring the country’s unity, stability and survival in the face of persistent regionalism, often verging on separation. He explores the complex social and cultural diversity and extreme regional unevenness in development. The author also offers information on the Sixth Schedule of the Indian Constitution.
Rage, Reconciliation and Security, by the Delhi Policy Group, New Delhi, India
This is a transcript of a talk in 2007 by the chair for Non Traditional Security of the Delhi Policy Group (DPG). The speaker examines India’s ability to accommodate diversity and multiple identities. He concludes that the Indian nation state must modify its policy to cater to growing ethnic and social demand. The DPG is an independent, non-profit, non-partisan think tank focusing on public policy in India.
Low Intensity Conflicts in India: An Analysis, by SAGE Publications, New Delhi, India
This 2005 book, accessible through Google Scholar, offers a history of low intensity conflicts (LICs) in India since independence. It analyzes the roots of conflict in a range of contexts. One chapter is dedicated to the Gorkhaland movement. Further chapters discuss similar independence movements in the northeastern states of Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Mizoram and Tripura. In a book review by the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses in New Delhi, the reviewer highlights that the author of this book does not try to oversimplify the concept of LICs and looks at them through the prism of challenges which a plural civil society faces while consolidating its national identity.
Poverty, Malgovernance and Ethnopolitical Mobilization: Gorkha Nationalism and the Gorkhaland Agitation in India
This 2005 journal article in Nationalism and Ethnic Politics discusses the main reasons behind Gorkha nationalism in West Bengal, which led to the demand for a separate “Gorkhaland” and the formation of the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council (DGHC). To read this journal, a subscription to informaworld, a website hosting journals published by Taylor & Francis, Routledge, Psychology Press and Informa Healthcare, is needed.
The Changing Politics of States’ Reorganization, by Publius, UK
This 2003 journal article in Publius highlights the change in attitude among the Indian ruling elite that the reorganization of states can lead to good governance if such reorganization stems from administrative convenience, economic viability, similarity in developmental needs of a subregion and cultural-linguistic affinity. To access this journal article, a subscription to Publius or pay-per-access registration is needed.
The Indian Community in Nepal and the Nepalese Community in India: The Problem of National Integration, by Asian Survey, University of California Press, Berkeley, US
This 1986 article in Asian Survey discusses the problems of people of Indian origin in Nepal, and likewise of the Nepali people of hill origin in India. It was published just before the first Gorkhaland conflict erupted. To access this journal, a subscription to JSTOR is needed.
NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS
Amra Bangali’s Demand for Cancellation of the Unconstitutional Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council (DGHC), by the World Prout Assembly
This article was published in 2006 on the website of the World Prout Assembly, an NGO dedicated to the Progressive Utilization Theory (PROUT). It shows the perspective of the Bengali opposition, namely the political party Amra Bangali (“We are Bengalis”). Since 2005, Amra Bangali has been organizing rallies and demanding cancellation of the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council as well as the arrest and trial of Shubhas Ghising for anti-national activities.
MEDIA
“Gorkhaland is my monkey”: An Interview with Subash Ghisingh, by The Statesman, Kolkata, India
In this rare January 2008 interview with DGHC leader Subash Ghisingh, he explains why he dropped the demand for a separate state. He refers to his former right hand and now political opponent Bimal Gurung as a village leader without mass base and rejects all accusations of embezzlement by his party members.
The Himalayan Beacon
This blog by Barun Roy, a citizen of Darjeeling, sparks debate on current issues in the Darjeeling hills, and in particular the Gorkhaland conflict. Even though comments to blog entries can be rather abusive at times, the site offers an unfiltered insight into the controversy not only between Bengalis and Nepalis, but also within the Nepali-speaking population on what is the proper and viable way to acquire more autonomy.
Darjeelingtimes.com
Darjeelingtimes.com is a regional online news media outlet with occasional print magazines devoted to Darjeeling district issues. It is a start-up project with limited resources, but it is transparent and gives voice to different opinions by allowing comments on all articles. Darjeelingtimes.com also republishes newspaper articles from other Indian news sources.
Battle for Gorkhaland gathers steam, by the New Delhi Television Limited (NDTV), India
This video on the Gorkhaland conflict was produced in November 2007 by NDTV, one of India’s leading broadcasting companies, and uploaded to YouTube. It offers a short introduction to the Gorkhaland conflict, and focuses especially on the ethnicity issue.
Sixth Schedule Status for Gorkha Hill Council, by The Hindu, Chennai, India
This is a news article from The Hindu on the signing of the second tripartite Memorandum of Settlement for granting Sixth Schedule status to the Gorkha Hill Council on 5 December 2005.
About the author:
Corinne Zurfluh is a project assistant and editor for the International Relations and Security Network (ISN) at the ETH Zurich, Switzerland. The ISN is a leader in the international relations and security community as a provider of comprehensive and balanced information.
Corinne holds a master’s degree in political science, international law, and media and communication science from the University of Zurich. She wrote her master thesis on the decline of the Swiss Christian Democratic People’s Party, and is currently writing a book chapter on the political history of Schwyz, a mountainous Swiss canton that can be compared to the Darjeeling hills in many respects.
She lived in Kalimpong in 2006 and 2007 and worked as a volunteer violin teacher for Gandhi Ashram School, 6th Mile. She follows the developments in the hills closely, through personal contacts and by reading The Himalayan Beacon and Darjeelingtimes.com, for example. Her article on Gorkhaland was distributed as a newsletter to subscribers worldwide.
March 7, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Dear Corinne,
Great Job! And thank you very much for highlighting the Gorkhaland issue in the European press. I think this is the first time that the Gorkhaland issue has been highlighted in Europe and internationally at such a huge scale. Thank you very much. The people of Darjeeling Hills will forever remain indebted to you.
March 7, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I thoroughly agree with Amit. Great Job Corinne you rock!
March 7, 2008 at 5:51 pm
कोरिन्ने बहिनी अनी बरुन भाईलाई शुभकम्ना, तपाईंहरुले अती सरहिनि कार्य ग्र्नुभाको छ
March 7, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Thanks Corinne, the next time you come to Darjeeling Hills everything is ‘on the house’, you are the true friend of the Gorkha people.
March 7, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Dear Corinne,
Thank you very much for your interest and concern on the political struggle for self determination of the people of Darjeeling Hills. Your article published by the International Relations and Security Network (ISN) of ETH Zurich, Switzerland gives us for the first time an International Forum. I hope now that the concerns of the Gorkha people will be heard in the highest rung of the Human Civilisation.
Regs
Barun
March 7, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Congratulation and thank you Cornine.
March 8, 2008 at 12:54 am
thanks cornine for the support, but, it won’t help much though…if so then Tibet would have been free years ago….
common gorkhas don’t wait to be spoon fed….
fight for your dues…… your selves…….
Jai subhas ghissingh……jai gorkhaland….
May 14, 2008 at 8:52 am
Dear Corinne Zurfluh,
Thanks for the Article.
It was your Kalimpong Sojourn that gave you a lot of insights into the happenings with respect to the Gorkhaland Movement II but I find that you have been a little short or perhaps ignorant of the History of the Formation of the District of Darjeeling. Hence I provide a Brief for your information on which if you are interested to come out with the real picture would goad you to further readings.
History shows that in 1835, Sikkim had its territories bordering Purnea in the South with River Mechi in the West and River Teesta in the East which included all of Siliguri. The Darjeeling Tract ( South of Great Rungeet River, East of Balasun, Kahail and Little Rungeet Rivers and West of Rungpo and Mahanuddi Rivers ) was ceded to the British on the 01st of February 1835 by the Raja of Sikkim. Then in 1846, the Sikkim Terai ( ruled by Nepal prior to the Treaty of Segowlee dated 04.03.1816 ) was annexed by the British and finally in 1850, the area bounded by the Rammam in the North, Rungeet and Teesta on the East, Mechi River in the West (Nepal Border) upto the British Districts of Purnea and Jalpaiguri was incorporated into the British Territory. The Treaty of Sinchula dated 11.11.1865 ceded the ‘ whole tract known as the Eighteen Duars bordering the Districts of Rungpoor, Cooch Behar and Assam together with the Talook of Ambaree Fallacottah ( annexed on 09.06.1864 ) and the Hill Territory on the left bank of the Teesta ‘ by the Bhutan Government to the British Government for ever. This was the manner in which the District of Darjeeling came into being.
Therefore it is Very Unfair for you to say that the Gorkhas are Immigrants - The Gorkhas are Indian by Nationality and have been Indian from the Day the above mentioned territories were incorporated into the Then British India.
To provide more information about the Movement -
The effort for the creation of a Separate Administrative Setup for the District of Darjeeling has been in demand since 1907 before the Morley-Minto Reforms which has been neglected by all successive Governments till date. Perhaps the spread of the Gorkha community which is an Insignificant Minority in the National Scenario is a Non-existant Vote Bank for the National Political Parties thereby not drawing much attention. Perhaps it is because of this that the residents of this part of India still suffers from basic amenities such as Adequate Drinking Water, Educational Facilities, Proper Nutrition and Sanitation and without doubt - Employment (which you have definitely experienced and felt during your Kalimpong stay). If this is not a recipe inviting some sort of Demands, then it would be a Shame to say that we are a Democracy.
The Peaceful and Democratic Rallies of the Gorkhas were Stone Pelted, Boiling Water poured from buildings followed by brickbats and physical assaults on Senior Citizens, Women and Children; Permission to hold Public Meetings and Rallies not Granted; A Senior Minister urging tourists not to visit Darjeeling – is this Democratic ? It would be very informative if an incident of a tourist being politically harassed , hurt or killed in the Darjeeling Hills could be cited unlike Kashmir where buses have been blown apart, tourists made hostages or gunned down - yet No Public Figure asked Tourists to Stay Away from Kashmir. When other Political Outfits can have Public Meetings and bring about rallies in the Heart of Town as and when they desire, why do the Gorkhas have to be kept waiting for more than a week to get permission with Nineteen Conditions that too on the Outskirts of Town ? The Agitation of the Eightees claimed more than a thousand lives – all Gorkhas. This Movement is not a Communal Movement but a Political One. The More the ‘Powers that Be’ Try to Crush the Movement, the Deeper the Roots it will Strike. A Sane and Responsible Government would Sit and Give Thought to Come to a Peaceful and Amicable Solution without Letting the Situation to Go Out of Hand.
Thanks for the Article once more and I am sure you would keep updating youself and other like minded people abroad regarding the Movement for a Separate State of Gorkhaland within India and help the Simple and Ever Smiling Gorkhas Achieve their Dream. Please Disseminate the Plight of the Gorkhas - We Need Support, Internationally too.
Dinesh.
May 15, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Hello Corrime !
Are you there ?
May 21, 2008 at 7:00 pm
First of all I wanna comment to some of those who donna like to be Nepalese.Please listen the album Himali Nepali by Mantra and Yo maan Ta Mero Nepali Ho by 1974AD. Both of this band are Darjeeling originated. You guys may also know Tulsi Ghimire, Niruta Singh, Uttam Pradhan, Amber Gurung and so on who are born in Darjeeling but are proud to introduce themselves as Nepalese. Even the music of national song of Nepal is composed by Amber Gurung.These are just few of the million examples. And you may have notice something in Prashant Fest. We collected funds frm different places for voting and celebrated the winning ceremony not less than in your place. This was not more than the unselfish love and brotherhood bcoz we people still believe that the people of Darjeeling and periphery are our own who ever claims the land.
Secondly India is a newly born nation as there was no India and Indians before 1947AD. But Nepal and Nepalese were there from last 260 years. Yes we are apart physically due to some biwasta. Before the war against the British we were all together and we together fight against the then British India Company. Nepal lost against British means the Nepal of that time lost against them which include Darjeeling as well.So we weren’t apart by our will.
In some of the comments I have also found people saying- India is economically fast growing but Nepal instead is indulged in many problems so why to feel anything for that poor country. But frens lets bet just feel yourself as Nepalese once for the sake of our Bir Purkhas, Our culture, Our existence and for the Sagarmatha and Buddha you will then know the pride to be a Nepalese.
JASO GARA JE VANA JATA SUKAI LAIJAU MALAI YO MAAN TA MERO NEPALI HO
MALAI GARVA CHHA HAMRO PURKHALE KATI BETHA HARU SAHERA KATI PIDA HARU SAHERA ITIHAAS TA RACHEKAI THE
May 22, 2008 at 8:57 am
If Bengalis can feel and are concerned of the Happenings in Bangladesh, why should we not care about our Brethren in Nepal. Anil we certainly do and we are proud of your support to all Gorkhas in the Variety of fields that they are coming to Light. Keep the Flame Alive.
May 22, 2008 at 9:16 am
I dont think it is about not feeling for Nepalese. It is about being more defined, recognised in India for those who are Indian nationals now. The 18th-19th century Gorkha history that we are all proud of definitely belonged to Nepal. And in India, ,many of us are working hard to preserve that period. In dehradun, the Battle of Nalapani site now has 27 foot memorial. In Kangra, the Kangra fort where the historical 1804-8 war took place between Amar singh Thapa and sansar chand katoch, has a large signboard which mentions the Amar Singh Thapa’s encounter. The Bhagsunag temple in Dharamshala is now a Gorkha heritage with crossed khukris on the roof. The Gangotri temple has a plate saying that it was built by Amar Singh thapa. There are many more such projects in the pipeline which are very difficult to do. But we are trying very hard, As said, for our poorkhas and all this itself shows the pride in our origins. But definitely not for political reasons. As all that is history now. THe more nepalese people say ‘hamro thiu hamro ho’the more difficulty we are going to highlight and preserve the relics of that era here.
May 22, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Ms Jyoti,
I think you have a Great Knowledge of the Garwal, Kumaon and Kangra Regions that were the Territories of Nepal. Its just that I’ve read about the Gorkha Conquests. Could you please narrate the History of this Region (Specify the areas and the places as of Today) in Brief. I would be very grateful for this favour.
Thanx in advance.
May 22, 2008 at 8:11 pm
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May 23, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Dear Dinesh
Thank you for yr request. I am trying to make the history as concise and correct as possible for yr benefit. Just rechecking the dates again. Thank you, Jyoti
July 2, 2008 at 11:40 am
wow! finally i can see here some of the true nepalese…rather than saying we are Indian Gurkhas..Thanks Dinesh and Anil…for being a true Nepali…wakkai lagisakeko thiyo..hami Indian Gurkhas ho bhanne harusita..i was trying my best to deliver the truth..first of all we are NEPALESE..god! wish they could have seen the effort taken by every Nepalese from all over the world to support Prashant so that he win’s the Indian Idol…I am not trying or sound to be anti-Indians..but just want to prove our roots..that hami chai Nepali ho…Indian Gurkhas lai chinaune pani KHUKURI le nai ho..British Gurkhas lai chinaune pani KHUKURI le nai ho..ta kina Nepali haru le Indian Gurkha briths gurkha bhanera chutta chuttai chinaari khojirako..
July 6, 2008 at 11:50 am
Nisha wht r u trying to prove, History, your own madeup history… the Gorkhaland .. dont try to bracket with your own demand its not just for the nepalese … its for everybody.. bihar, kayya etc etc..
who are nepalese… lepcha, gurung, tamang what else
who r gorkhalese … ?????
please stop drawing your own conclusions, that will thread wrong informations… many r learning from here … n wrong information may be harmful
plez be specific and strong at our line..
July 6, 2008 at 11:55 am
Nisha
What r ur plans for the Gorkhaland - what will you be contributing..
there wont be any exploitation of the Left (of the bangladesh) as they turtled facing the northeast of india.. yo bengali haru lai auta ship halla ra Bay of Bengal na chori dinu parcha
July 6, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I am not trying to give any wrong conclusions..its true the Demand is for a separate state..and that we want to be regognized as Indian Gurkhas..but again..hamro bolne bhaasha ta Nepali nai ho ni..hoinara? so what’s harm in saying we are Nepalese..?? hamro chinaari ta Nepali nai ho?
the bengalis are bent on saying we are from Nepal.foreigners? the issue right now here is not of Nepal or of Dhaka..the subject is for Gorkhaland…but inarule kasto abuse gari rako cha..can’t u see? tapailai ke khaali mo nepali ho bhannu sharam lagcha..??
malai ta lagdaina..
July 6, 2008 at 12:08 pm
kina bhannu… k farak parcha…
do u know what is the most distinguishing feature of a Nepali or we people -
Hami ma dherai dharna garna shakti huncha.. we r resistful…. k nepali k gorkhali … yeha ta kamai gari khana larai chal dai cha… dont waste time on this bengali (bangladeshi) style poison ..
They r bangladeshi… North Bengal ko sabbi native haru enar (bengali) sangha wakka bhai saka ko cha…
What r ur plans for Gorkhaland
July 6, 2008 at 12:15 pm
kunai kura tapako sensible lagyo..but ke farak parcha harey..Nepali bhayera chinnu farak huncha ni…
i wont talk more about it here.coz it will create lots of controversies..and again there are lots of bengalese..here..who think I am a foreigner blogging from Nepal..ASSES!!
I definitely do not want to fight like some of the bengalies did here..but when they speak so poisonously for us..then I am compelled to reply them back in their own language…
my plan..err..our plan for Gorkhaland is to bring peace and prosperity..!!
July 6, 2008 at 12:16 pm
whichever part of the world i blog from..this is no ones business..!!
July 6, 2008 at 12:18 pm
now that a realistic point… thank you
July 6, 2008 at 12:25 pm
THE PLEASURE IS ALL MINE..!!
July 6, 2008 at 12:33 pm
By the way - OUR EXISTENCE IS OUR IDENTITY
till we exist as human… humans living in a society in this globalized era… and the tots who distinguish this are the agents of the left/exploiter like - Ghising .. desiring us to exploit us more
We must stand strong… if not there r many alternatives - the area of Sikkim, Darjeeling (North Bengal) undertaken by india can be a army base for China - The indian hates us never we mind..
July 6, 2008 at 12:48 pm
atually i completely agree with you..our real identity is WE ARE HUMANs..!!
but again while discussing with some stupids..who keep on mocking us and confine us to no more than coolies, durbans..calling our weapon ugly khukuri(previous blogs)..malai ta tinaru lai tyahi hisaab le jawaf dinu parcha..dont you know..laaton ki bhoot baaton se nahi maante..so, me doing the same thing..ofcourse, I have been given names..arrogant, abusive, savage, half-educated..ha ha! but I dont mind their sayings..coz they are too dumb to give me such names..
true, we should be and act like humans..but what if ppl around us act like orangutans, apes and treat us in an inhuman way..while we are in our own land? i dont believe in the theory..give your other cheek is someone slaps you once..!! never..baru marchu, maarchu..tara kasaiko agaadi jhukdina..!
baigune lai goon le jitne zamana gaisakyo..abo ta eeth ma jawab patthar..and i strongly believe in this..!!
July 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Dear Mr.Barun Roy
We have taken Corinne Zurfluh article in our magzine Telangana Times, a monthly Telugu & English bi lingual Journal.We wanted our people to know the struggle of people of Dargiling hill area for a seperate state of Gorkha Land.We have expressed our solidarity to your sruggle through our editorial on behalf of people of Telangana.
Sridhar Deshpande
July 17, 2008 at 1:52 am
Anil Pant Says:
May 21, 2008 at 7:00 pm
“Secondly India is a newly born nation as there was no “India and Indians” before 1947AD”
@Anil Pant Ji
…..Anil Pant ji aap kaha se history mein Phd kiye hain?? can I know that???…great knowledge hain aap ka India ke baare mein….
July 17, 2008 at 1:53 am
@Anil Pant Ji
India word aaya britsh aane ha baad…aage yeah desh BHARAT tha… INDIA and BHARAT is same….
yeah toh baccha vi janta hain…aapko vi sayed malum hain…
July 17, 2008 at 1:59 am
Dinesh Says:
May 22, 2008 at 8:57 am
If Bengalis can feel and are concerned of the Happenings in Bangladesh, why should we not care about our Brethren in Nepal.
………………….
@ Dinesh it is your wrong assumption….we dont care or bother about bangladesh and its population (mostly muslim)….they are kafer (enemy) to us….. we have sympathy with those poor hindu residing there ….
I wrote you but it doeasn’t means that I have any objection if you care about Nepal….it’s your wish…by d way nepalis are hindu like us…
July 17, 2008 at 5:41 am
Nisha!
wat a lovely name!
July 19, 2008 at 12:47 pm
We are opposing Gorkhaland or any partition and disintegration of West Bengal. India Government and West Bengal Government must consider the following demands in the interest of SECURITY QUESTION OF INDIA. Nepali infiltration must be stopped and they should be treated as per Bangladeshi migrants. Government must handled the all issues in strong hand.
DEMANDS OF UTTARBANGA JANA JAGARAN MANCH
1. Both the demands of Sixth Schedule and separate State of Gorkhaland would mean ultimate partition and disintegration of West Bengal. Both the demands should be rejected.
2. Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council may be abolished and the Darjeeling District put directly under state administration, with Army protection.
3. Clause-VII Indo-Nepal Treaty of 1950 may be repealed to prevent foreign Nepali infiltration.
4. All foreign Nepalese should be identified and pushed back to Nepal, as per the Foreigners Act, 1864 as is being done in the case of illegal Bangladeshi migrants.
5. Border outposts be set up with barbed-wire fencing. Visa be introduced in the Indo-Nepal border as is the case with Bangladesh.
July 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Uttarbanga is our Gorkhaland!!
July 21, 2008 at 1:41 pm
RAJA Says:
July 17, 2008 at 1:59 am
I wrote you but it doeasn’t means that I have any objection if you care about Nepal….it’s your wish…by d way nepalis are hindu like us…
sorry to have intruded into your solitariness..raja bhaiya..but let me correct you..all nepalese are not hindu tagged..!! did you get me? i am buddhist..what do you mean by Nepalese are Hindus..first care to be a human..
July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm
UJJM demands should be met and,then lets identify all Bangladeshis in Bengal and deport them too. In next election the first victim would be CPM led government.
As our Bengali friends ( including DJs people) gets rid of CPM, then it will be start of new era which would bring positive change in the form of pro active representation and work of liberal Bengali friends and right to self rule will be dream come true. As self rule begins, UJJM will loose its identity and relevance
Communist is known for central control of power without giving any power, independence to people for their self rule. Take any where in the world, all communists tried in all decades to control the power as one party manifesto and did all things possible to crush any opposition it came on the way, but what is the result- USSR gone, China facing flak from every one, North Korea - their state of affairs, no comparison to their Brethren in South Korea, Cuba now learning to open up, Vietnam- most grueling things we had in century, and many such countries.
I believe in socialistic form of society but not communist form of society- they are the most anti people form of movement we have in history of our earth.
Regards
Joseph Chamling
July 21, 2008 at 6:39 pm
@Nisha,
Yes i’m sorry….I forgot about Gautam Bhuddha…born in Kushinagar….by the way I never differenciate Bhuddist from Hindu……May be some cultural differences are there….. but Bhudist & hindu customs are not 180 degree opposite as like Hindu & Muslim…
July 21, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Kushinagar? Lumbini, Nepal
July 21, 2008 at 7:14 pm
@Jyoti,
wooof….sorry…yessssssssss…kushinagar…but his father was a king of Lumbini right??
July 21, 2008 at 7:20 pm
No baaba he was born in the Lumbini groves away from tehir palace, while his mother was on a journey. He was the prince of the Sakya clan. Pl ask Nisha about more details about his father.
July 21, 2008 at 7:21 pm
wooof woof keno karchho?
July 21, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Dear all friends,
Just watch a new mhindi movie “vaya darjeeling”…excellent movie…I down loaded it from ‘www.bhatatalkies.com’ and watched it….The film has been shoot in Darjeeling….You will get a full thrill and suspense…. (Kay Kay Menon & Sonali Kulkarni, Vidya Balan)…
reg,
R
P.S: I think all of us are only discussing only political issues…though it is not bad….but sometime if we watch movies it will fresh our mind….what say friends??
July 21, 2008 at 7:24 pm
sorry typo mistake……”www.bharattalkies.com”….go to ‘hindi’ option and click there…you will get that movie….unlimited free down load
July 21, 2008 at 7:26 pm
@Jyoti,
Thanks jyoti, I have read those in school in history…But I have forgot those things……Yes Nisha can help me…but really she would??? …ha ha ha…
July 21, 2008 at 7:28 pm
wooof korlam karon ami sab history bhule gechi…bhalo kore mone nei tai….nijer opor raag holo tai…
July 21, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I thought my darling cocker spaniel Nukey had come on the blog.
July 21, 2008 at 7:40 pm
“darling cocker spaniel Nukey”….amake ki animel mone holo naki??…ha ha ha…..
July 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm
animal
July 21, 2008 at 7:45 pm
I love animals. Man’s woman’s best friend.
July 21, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Correct ….you are absolutely correct….animal insaan se vi biswasi hota hain….insaan dhoka de saak ta hain lekin animal nahi
July 21, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Nukey says Woof woof to you for that and also my daschund Kootchie has sent his love
July 21, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Convey my love to them…I love animals like Swamiji (Swami Vivekananda)….
July 21, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Thank you. Ekhun ano topic te jai karon ekhane sabai raage acchen
July 21, 2008 at 7:59 pm
yes …everyone will angry on us as we are discussing on pets here….but sometimes ‘light discussion’ is also good for our mind as you wont feel monotonous …..
July 21, 2008 at 8:00 pm
…correction….”every one will get angry”
July 21, 2008 at 8:15 pm
The Anti-Gorkha Rap hehehe
hey yo!! listen up this one out to all my anti-gorkha folks out there, you could cut being homosexual for a bit and listen up yo!!
Is this everything you wanted for your existence…just a pan in your mouth and the dhoti in your hands, no!! that’s not what you wanted, you wanted something else, to send the humble hilly people out of their lands!! you’ve always been dominant with your big population, your sweaty loud people and the unified notion, well where did the unity go when you were killing your own in the Nandigram agitation.. following the big dogs and biting your own..now there is a fear in your lily-livered heart that your “supposed” crown would be dislodged from your heads with the humble people waking to their senses and realizing the ignorance of your clan!!
how would you let that happen, giving the power to the people, no you believe in oppression just like your wife does when she makes you work in the kitchen, the sink the toilets and the garden!!
Chorus:
I got a vision and that is to have a vision of a day when we dump our filth in the chilly hilly regions around May, hey no all year around as we think of driving the locals out of their lands!!
Let them be poor, let them remain underdeveloped but hey we do need them in the army to defend our lands cauze our sorry asses can’t hold no gun in our hands, maybe we should send our gutsy females in the army, they could come in hand, after all they carry the balls in the family!!
hehehe
enjoy
Sid O
July 22, 2008 at 1:42 am
@Nisha,
you have written:
“sorry to have intruded into your solitariness..raja bhaiya..but let me correct you..all nepalese are not hindu tagged..!! did you get me? i am buddhist..what do you mean by Nepalese are Hindus..first care to be a human..
yes I’m a human….any doubt????? I have humanity….You are thinking that I’m so communal that always use the word “HINDU”…right???…..Look my sister I dont care who thinks bad or good about me…. Yes I’m a radical HINDU…Understood?? Radical HINDU only for all radical muslims….but dont take it in a wrong sense I have full respect on your religion (Bhuddist) and I went to GHOMPAS many times & would like to go again if I visit Sikkim,even we have kept Gautam Bhudya’s picture with all our hindu Godess in my home back India……
July 22, 2008 at 10:42 am
@RAJA,
Gautam Bhudya’s or Gautam Bhutia or Gautam Budhha? Raja, u r funny man:-)
July 22, 2008 at 11:13 am
It think he got mixed up with Budhia the little marathon Oriya child runner.
July 22, 2008 at 1:03 pm
RAJA Says:
July 22, 2008 at 1:42 am
@Nisha,
you have written:
“sorry to have intruded into your solitariness..raja bhaiya..but let me correct you..all nepalese are not hindu tagged..!! did you get me? i am buddhist..what do you mean by Nepalese are Hindus..first care to be a human..
yes I’m a human….any doubt????? I have humanity….You are thinking that I’m so communal that always use the word “HINDU”…right???…..Look my sister I dont care who thinks bad or good about me…. Yes I’m a radical HINDU…Understood?? Radical HINDU only for all radical muslims….but dont take it in a wrong sense I have full respect on your religion (Bhuddist) and I went to GHOMPAS many times & would like to go again if I visit Sikkim,even we have kept Gautam Bhudya’s picture with all our hindu Godess in my home back India……
JUST CHILL RAJA BHAIYA..I AM SORRY FOR HAVING USED THAT LAST WORD..CARE TO BE A HUMAN..I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOU ARE A GOOD HUMAN BEING..
ITS JUST THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PPL BRING RELIGION IN THE FOREFRONT..WHETHER WE BE MUSLIMS, HINDUS, BUDDHIST, CHRISTIAN..THE WHOLE POINT LIES IN THE FACT THAT ALL RELIGION PREACHES THE SAME THING..DO GOOD AND BE GOOD..WHY RUN AFTER RELIGION? DOES NOT MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL
July 22, 2008 at 6:34 pm
@Nisha,
It doestn’t make sense to you….To me religion is a important issues……But I hardly go to Mandir and do pranam as I think God exists in my heart …… I respect all other religions & their GODs even Allah ….. But I cant tolerate MUSLIM peoples….I dont know why I hate them so much….But it’s true that I HATE MUSLIMS….may be the reason is we know the facts that how muslim peoples torture our hindu brothers and sisters in Pakistan and Bangladesh…..Do you know why the CHAKMA tribals (They are Bouddhist)are leaving from Bangladesh…..ask them what’s the fact….our sisters are getting tortured by muslim goons everyday in Pakistan and bangladesh….now you are teaching me to “DO GOOD and “BE GOOD”…….
July 22, 2008 at 7:14 pm
@jtm,
“It think he got mixed up with Budhia the little marathon Oriya child runner.”
na na ami dujon er modhye mix up korini….aasol kotha holo ami buddha spelling galat likhe chilam…
July 22, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Raja…don’t hate remember…mazhab nahin sikhata aapas mein bair rakhna…
July 22, 2008 at 8:49 pm
@Ardee,
you are so generous!!!!…I respect you and your attitute….But I cant change myself….I cant help ….. I’m sorry
July 22, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Singh is King!
UPA wins 275 against 256
July 22, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Amar Singh???? great man…. esbaar kit mein kharida tha??…matlaab kitna paisa lagaya tha??
July 22, 2008 at 8:54 pm
jaise vi jita that doeasn’t matter….India is not facing another election that gives relief to all….bahut paisa save hua country ka…
July 22, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Catch up on the ‘Sting’ operation when BJP displayed 10 crores of note wads in the house to accuse bribery. The move backfired. Poor Advani was left looking very shattered. BJP and Left are both down
July 22, 2008 at 8:59 pm
By the way I feeling SAD as BJP lost one more chance to fall this Govt. As a BJP supporter I want to see Mr. Adbani on PM post ……
July 22, 2008 at 9:02 pm
I am sorry but Advani has lost his last chance of becoming PM. It is sad because he is one of the most learned and philantrophic man today but the shadow of Babri Masjid will never leave him
July 22, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Wait Jyoti…..In next election we will win…that’s sure….our dream “RAM MANDIR” will come true very soon ….
July 22, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Raja you have become outdated staying the USA. The Muslims do not want the BJP. Today they said WB has 20% Muslims but why only 2.2 representation? The country cannot proceed on religious bifurcations.
July 23, 2008 at 12:13 pm
RAJA Says:
July 22, 2008 at 6:34 pm
@Nisha,
It doestn’t make sense to you….To me religion is a important issues……But I hardly go to Mandir and do pranam as I think God exists in my heart …… I respect all other religions & their GODs even Allah ….. But I cant tolerate MUSLIM peoples….I dont know why I hate them so much….But it’s true that I HATE MUSLIMS….may be the reason is we know the facts that how muslim peoples torture our hindu brothers and sisters in Pakistan and Bangladesh…..Do you know why the CHAKMA tribals (They are Bouddhist)are leaving from Bangladesh…..ask them what’s the fact….our sisters are getting tortured by muslim goons everyday in Pakistan and bangladesh….now you are teaching me to “DO GOOD and “BE GOOD”…….
YOUR MIND! YOUR WISH! WHETHER YOU HATE THE MUSLIMS OR LOVE THE HINDUS..!! IF THIS IS THE CASE..THEN EVEN NEPAL LOST ITS 12 SONS IN IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE MERCILESSLY BUTCHERED BY THE MUSLIMS..THIS DOES NOT MEAN ALL THE MUSLIM RELIGIONED PPL ARE BAD..AND NEITHER ALL THE HINDUS, BUDDHIST AND CHRISTIANS ARE GOOD SOULS EITHER..!!
OFCOURSE! SURE CAN I TEACH YOU TO BE GOOD OR DO GOOD..BUT AS I SAID THE CHOICE REMAINS IN YOU..WHETHER YOU WANT TO BE A DEVIL OR A SLAVE OF GOD..!!
July 23, 2008 at 6:49 pm
@Nisha,
Iraqi Mujahidin group (radiacls Shite muslims)has killed them as they used to work for US army camp….Terrorists might have freed them all if they would muslims but they killed them as they were not. By the way there is a reason behind this killing I accept that, but at every where in every country these peoples are creating problems…..killing innocent peoples by using human bombs….This is the reason why I hate them….
I feel happy when American Bombers fall tons of bomb on Afganistan and Iraq….Aak nucler bomb sei saab gaddar ko khatam kadna chay ye…
But dont think I’m against all muslims….I like those who are not “CAFER”…..
July 24, 2008 at 2:10 am
@Jyoti,
“Raja you have become outdated staying the USA. The Muslims do not want the BJP. Today they said WB has 20% Muslims but why only 2.2 representation? The country cannot proceed on religious bifurcations.”….
…………………………….
I am not opposing all religions in India…..All are our brothers and sisters except muslims (most of all)&