Gurung remark riles CPM
Posted by barunroy on May 6, 2008
Siliguri, May 5: Darjeeling district CPM leaders have hit back at Gorkha Janmukti Morcha chief Bimal Gurung for his “indecent” comments about Bengal urban development minister Asok Bhattacharya while talking to reporters at Cooch Behar’s Dinhata yesterday. [Inset:
At a meeting called by the Greater Cooch Behar Democratic Party and Kamtapur Progressive Party, Gurung had said: “Now that we (the Morcha) have been allowed to hold a rally in Siliguri …, Asok Bhattacharya is free to visit the hills, hold meetings, dance and sing and do whatever he wants to.”
“Being the president of a party which calls itself democratic, he (Gurung) should refrain from making such indecent comments,” Jibitesh Sarkar, a state committee member of the CPM, said here today. “The CPM is proud of the culture of the Gorkhas who have always been decent in their behaviour and conversations. Gurung’s statement directed at a state minister is in sharp contrast to this culture.”
Sarkar added that there could be differences in the ideologies of the CPM and the Morcha, but that should not lead to personal attacks. “We have been opposing the Morcha’s demand for a separate state, but none of us have ever made any offensive remark about any of their leaders.”
This evening, the CPM organised a rally in Siliguri calling for peace and amity in the hills. More than 7,000 supporters started off from Baghajatin Park and travelled 3km via Hashmi Chowk, Hill Cart Road, Airview More, Siliguri Junction and Darjeeling More before they stopped at Mallaguri More.
The media and publicity secretary of the Morcha, Binay Tamang, told reporters today that the party was circulating a set of instructions among its supporters who wanted to attend the public meeting at Indira Maidan on the outskirts of Siliguri on May 7. The instructions include:
Avoid provocative slogans and slogans against any individual
Do not go to marketplaces in Siliguri
Park vehicles at spaces specified by the traffic police
At least one local Morcha leader to be in each vehicle with list of passengers
Carry contact number of the leader and number of the vehicle
“We are doing all this to maintain peace and amity in Siliguri,” Tamang said. “We request all other political parties to pass on similar instructions to their supporters. The administration should also keep a tab on criminals to stop any attempt by them to create tension.”
Senior administrative officials also met at the circuit house to chalk out their plan for the Morcha meeting. [The Telegraph]
jiwan said
I wonder when Jibitesh Sarkar started finding undemocratic elements when Bimal Gurung said “Asok Bhattacharya is free to visit the hills, hold meetings, dance and sing and do whatever he wants to.”
When Jibitesh Sarkar and Asok Bhattacharya said that the Gorkha are outsiders then that is more undemocratic because they are calling outsider not to a single person or a single leader but to the whole INDIAN Gorkha community.
When Cpim party cadre are harressing Gorkha students in Silgiuri it that also democracy. And we all know how much you are your party are democratic…..
Jyoti Thapa said
Nothing indecent about Gurung’s remark. Why cannot A Bhattacharya be invited to come and enjoy himself? The CPM should take strict control on the extremely abusive, racist remarks that their followers are using very evident for everyone who is able to read these blogs (especially on Gorkhas being hassled..) from all over the globe. Very harmfull for their image.
kanishka said
our leader has passed no undemocratic comments nor has he unsatisfied anyone. The only unsatisfied ones are the one who are against our community. It is important if Mr. Jibitesh Sarkar could try to analyse what his comrade Mr. Ashoke Bhattacharya said about us. We are not only angered but hurt too..
Bhodrolok said
To clarify any further doubts on the bravery of the gorkha soldiers and their contribution to the valiant defense of our country, all you hypocrites and ungrateful lot, just follow this link.http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/History/1999War/Lalitrai.html
Then you may get back to your “sitting on the sidelines and just commenting without a clue mentality!
ashis gurung said
the hill students are been terrorised in siliguri atleast in hakimpara and collegepara regions.is this democratic??? we don’t do that .we have the guts to come down in siliguri and organise rallies democratically to express our solidarity which is democratic, but we do not show our resentment by harassing the innocent and soft target students studying in the hills, to me this is undemocratic. and what democracy are the cpim talking about and trying to preach when their own cadress are crossing the limits of barbarism as was the case in Keyakhali village in Nandigram today when a women was stripped and beaten up in presence of her six years old son which has become the headlines of many newspapres for today. and yes calling the gorkhas a foreigners by mr a.b without any proof or without being aware of the fact, or without refering to the history of this region, oh my CPIM cadress do you think that is democratic?? if mr bhattarcharya have given this coment because he is not aware of the history of this region i can understand only one obvious fact, that this land never belonged to him, and that you are not interrested to find or know its history. so its you who is a foreigner atleast to this region. so mr foreigner i think it is a high time that you realise that gorkhaland is our right and if not given we know well how to snatch it.
Uttam Chhetri said
Its very sad to know about the difficult situation the hill students are facing in siliguri.Siliguri under bangladeshi communists has really deterioted morally.At the same time are our students bringing up this matter to the concerned authorities and are they getting help?
pseude said
Dear Uttam, calling CPM cadres bangladeshi will only pile more trouble for you nepalis in Siliguri. As far as schools in the hills go, we will be happy to withdraw our wards from these schools but your gjmm will be responsible for the consequences.
Bhodrolok said
again the mudslinging has started.
Jyoti Thapa said
Dear pseudo you are sounding really desperate now. Signs of a someone losing his battle. Take a break and use your great energy for Gorkhaland. They might make you their MLA from Silguri. Not a bad deal, eh? You’ll still be the king of your beloved Siliguri.
Jyoti Mukhia said
Gurung had said: “Now that we (the Morcha) have been allowed to hold a rally in Siliguri …, Asok Bhattacharya is free to visit the hills, hold meetings, dance and sing and do whatever he wants to.”
“Being the president of a party which calls itself democratic, he (Gurung) should refrain from making such indecent comments,” Jibitesh Sarkar, a state committee member of the CPM, said here today. “The CPM is proud of the culture of the Gorkhas who have always been decent in their behaviour and conversations. Gurung’s statement directed at a state minister is in sharp contrast to this culture.”
Am I reading it wrong? What is indecent about the comment of Gurung to Ashok Bhattacharjee? If CPM is really proud of Gorkha culture and behavior why Pseude you being the member of CPM is so indecent? Why are you hypocritical about you and yourself? Walk the talk man!! Show decency please as your comrade.
Jyoti Thapa said
Dear Jyoti Mukhia
You can contact me thru barun. Barun pl kindly forward Jyoti Mukhia’s mail id to me. Thank you, regards, Jyoti
Johnny Gorkha said
This is CPIM’s another way of saying “we lost” !!!
pseude said
Siliguri mein rally hi karoge – is liye ki hamne permission diya. Panga hua toh game bajayenge.
pseude said
Hello Jyoti Mani – do what you do best – go and cook for your family. Orelse come and face our cadres.
Jyoti Thapa said
Pseudo Glad to see that you have become Indian now writing in your tutti-frutti Hindi. I gather you are talking about pangas from your side. That’s good that you are taking care of the law and order situation. make sure that yr cadres behave themselves and curtail hooliganism. The disgrace of the three women from nandigram has put the CPIM in very bad light. Not to speak of Communist opposition causing the Indian-US Nuclear deal to fizzle out. Now our economy and infrastructure will suffer from power and energy shortage. Become more nationalistic and less feudalistic. Vaise tumhare baaton mein load nahin.
pseude said
Dear Jyoti Mukhia – You were wondering why I am so “indecent”. Perhaps you never read the comments from your nepali friends – Johhny gorkha and others. It make help you make a better judgement. Also on the question of being democratic – it is because CPM is democratic that your gjmm got the permission. Otherwise in West bengal not a blade of grass moves without party approval. Therefore please dont take this opportunity to create trouble in Siliguri. Your gjmm will be completely responsible for the consequences.
pseude said
Dont worry – my hindi is better than your english. FYI, I speak, read and write 7 languages fluently.
Jyoti Thapa said
Also you have always been a bundle of assumptions. Come home I will make good bhoori ko achaar and khutta ko tihun for you.
Jyoti Thapa said
Wow why are you wasting yr time in Siliguri. You should be in the UN or something like that.
pseude said
Dear Jyoti – I’d love to have that achar. More so, about me being in UN, perhaps it applies to you too. I am more convinced about it after reading about your exalted family qualifications.
Jyoti Thapa said
Thanks Pseude but i did not try for the UN as I wanted to become a creative professional.Also i would love to meet your cadres. They are definitely not going to bite me. I am sure they are good people inside just charged by politicians who only consider them as votebanks and used to disturb any voice in this democratic country they feel is a threat to their party
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Pseude,
Greetings from Darjeeling! It seems that you have been known to start personal discussions and attack on every post. This blog respects freedom of speech and expression, but I would like to request all commentators and especially Mr. Pseude not to indulge in a mudslinging contest. We will all have to try to deliberate as sane and knowledgeable individuals and let facts speak up for us.
Please let this site become a forum of intelligent people. Remember the entire world could judge us from how we interact and deliberate on this forum. Now we don’t want to portray a bad image of us Indians do we?
Regards
P. S. Mr. Pseude please take this to be your first warning!
pseude said
Dear Mr. Roy,
I am surprised you are addressing me by name and warning me. It is you who has opened the gates of this discussion by pasting your oft-repeated letters to everyone including the high and mighty.
If you go through the comments on the various subjects, you will find people have called me unprintable names that are far worse than what you’d ever imagine. Did you not notice them before or you just chose to ignore them deliberately.
There have been loads of people calling each other names and addressing them personally in this blog. Even Ms. Thapa is doing that. However you seem to have noticed only me since I do not subsribe to your view.
I dont see much of a point deliberating any longer on this blog. If it wishes to print only one side of the story, so be it. The responsibility for maintaining dignity does not lie on one persons shoulders alone.
With Regards to all.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Pseude,
My words implied everyone and yes, I did warn you but now I am taking a serious look at all the comments made. It seems warning and banning commentators will not work. Hence, I would like to request all to come up with a ‘CODE OF CONDUCT’ for commenting and I would like to request you to help me in this process. We cannot just give up. We must find a way. I think we have a good thing going here and all we need is to come up with a ‘COMMENTATORS CODE’ and a ‘CODE OF CONDUCT’ framed by the commentators themselves, not me. There must be a way to deliberate in a sane and civilised way.
Dear Sir, then I request you to work on this and I will request the same to everyone on this site. Lets for once come up with some thing good collectively! Lets make things work.
Regards
pseude said
Dear Mr. Roy,
One very effective way to prevent abuse is to have all interested participants log in using usernames and passwords. They could obtain usernames by providing their actual email addresses and identities. My guess is that a code of conduct will not work since its left to the individual to respect the same.
Regards
Jyoti Thapa said
Whoever has drawn the impression of my face pl make it octagonal in shape.
Gorkhey Jeep! said
Jyotididi, I think the avatars are automatically generated and could not be changed!But i could be proven wrong.
Gorkhey Jeep! said
I agree with Pseude’s suggestion on the code of conduct. Everyone should have their real email addresses and passwords registered to able to comment.
I love my avatar, it perfectly represents me.
Jyoti Mukhia said
Watchout the latest news from siliguri Public meeting. Click in my name.
niraj said
Thanks a lot Jyoti for the current news and video,expecting more..
YK Shrestha said
Hey Pseude,
U r correct. Now u r talking some sense. Good,good.It seems after all u r a nice guy with lot of animosity against the Gorkhas. However, that’s ur prerogative and ur choice.But, let me tell u Pseude, we do not harbour any ill-will against u guys except the Bangladeshis who have infiltrated in the last three decades or so and have become the ruling class. I hope u r not one of them. But, I fail to understand why do u hate the Gorkhas so much??? Any reason brother??
Jyoti Thapa said
Dear Gorkhey jeep glad you like your cartoon. But why am I winking? Gorkhas cannot rally in Siliguri, Gurung cannot go to Kolakata on the 7th because of the IPL match. Shahrukh Khan not allowed by Sports Minister Subhas Chakraborty to perform tomorrow in Eden because it is Rabindranath Tagore’s birthday. He is supposed to go and garland tagore’s potrait which will be placed on a stage near the boundary line. Batsmen will have to be carefull they do not hit anywhere that stage.
insomniacreturns said
Heard Siliguri rally became a success…a huge crowd had gathered.
Jyoti Mukhia said
More than 3,50,000 gathering. Bimal Gurung is speaking at the moment.
Jyoti Mukhia said
Watch out another video clip from news channel.
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Dear Mr Jyoti Mukhia
Thanks for connecting to the video. Siliguri rally ko saphalta ko laagi mero sabailai hardik badhai. Regards
pseude said
Dear Mr. Shreshta,
Thanks for your comments. To be honest with you, I have nothing against gorkhas or the hill people. My problem is very specific and its with Bimal Gurung who’s trying to cite some historical legend and include Siliguri into his agitation which we will never accept. As far as the question of Bangladeshis go, there have been loads of Nepalis also who have crossed over from the other side and made this state their home. The only difference is that they are protected by this so called friendship treaty. This treaty does not make them any less alien at all.
You are wondering about my background. My parents and most of my extended family came to india in 1947-48. Thereafter they established themselves out of nothing. One of my maternal uncles retired as a consular general of india in new york. my own father is a retired civil servant (IA&AS)
The question of hindu bangladeshis is viewed differently by various parties. BJP-RSS view them as refugees who are still escaping persucution and the aftermath of partition in Islamic bangladesh. It is perhaps the only one area where left wing and right wing hold similar views. Unlike hindus from west pakistan who agitated and got Haryana carved out of Punjab, east bengalis got no such thing. Perhaps they were too scattered and terrified to make such a demand then. However they cannot be expected to live in fear and uncertainity forever for something inflicted upon them by Jinnah and Gandhi.
Frnd of Gorkhali said
Mr. Pseude I strongly support your view.
Respected Jyoti Mukhia, yes, rally of GJMM at Siliguri is success. But FYI the presence of supporters were at most around 1.5 lac. It is quite disgusting! We hope for presence of around 2.5 lac, at least.
Another point to be noted. Today there was ‘bandh’ at Siliguri. It was being called by a newly formed faction which supports for Bengali’s. Bandh was ‘extraordinary’ success! Even political leaders from Siliguri could not anticipated the success of the Bandh.
I am citing this because, the sooner Mr. Bimal Gurung will understand the pulse of Siliguri, not to be included in Gorkhaland, the better he will focus on wrestling away Gorkhaland from Bengal.
Regds
jiwan said
ya bandh was success, all government office was open.. There were vehicle moving inside siliguri town. Almost all shops were close, some close because they did not support gorkhaland and other were closed because they were threaten to close their shop.
Johnny Gorkha said
Friend of Gorkhali, I beg to differ on your statement there ! I was in the rally today, I have photographs too ! You are seriously mis-informed ! And for the bandh I doubt it ! I went upto Hill Cart Road, on the local auto-rikshaw.
hemant said
Dear Frnd of Gorkhali I am very sorry you felt disgusted( as you were expecting more) but see buddy there was no space left in Gandhi maidan and packed with people . So many supporters had to sit out side the ground on the open ground opposite of Gandhi maidan, and many were sitting inside there vehicle to hear the speeches by different leaders….
Either you may to wrong or I got wrong information , because i felt there were more than 2.5 lakh and when i asked many police person about the number of people in the meeting even they said 2.5 lakhs plus.
jiwan said
dear pseude first of all about the friendship treaty, it was not the Indian gorkha who asked for the treaty. It was totally on the part of Gov of India and nepal king.
Anyways those people coming and living in either country are permitted by the treaty and not illigal. Now u tell do India and bangladesh have similar kind of treaty? And the people coming to India without passport through fences from Bangladesh are illigal.
you gave example of haryana but dont u think it is unjustice if we India Gorkha had to give up our land our 101 year old demand for their issue considering the fact even till now our land is still officially belong to sikkim.
Vimal Khawas said
To Quote Pseude ” My problem is very specific and its with Bimal Gurung who’s trying to cite some historical legend and include Siliguri into his agitation which we will never accept”.
Who told you its a historical legend Pseude? Its a historical fact!. Siliguri including its terai region and Darjeeling hills were the parts of the Kingdom of Sikkim at one point of time. Why don’t you take the burden of checking old Gazetteers of Bengal. NBU library must be having them.
Therefore, Bimal Gurung is not doing anything abnormal by claiming Siliguri and its adjoining Dooars.
And what is the harm if Siliguri is included in the new State? The whole region of Siliguri-Dooars neglected by West Bengal Government for years-together will positively gain under the new State. Look at the condition of Dooars today. The starvation deaths in this region is one of the highest in the country.
Check other development indicators like health, education, infrastructure etc of North Bengal Vis-a-Vis South Bengal and try to internalize the difference. For every an important official task you need to run down to Calcutta and there they will tell you to come next week; is that fair?
Its not that Bengalis residing in Siliguri will be in danger if it is included in the new State but on the contrary everyone will benefit out of it.
I do not think Bengalis of North Bengal especially residing in and around Siliguri should be scared by this agitation. If a new State (by whatever name) comprising of Darjeeling district (siliguri included) and the adjoining dooars region everyone will benefit and everyone irrespective of caste, creed, religion and race should benefit.
jiwan said
adding to wht vimal had said, in todays meeting bimal gurung said he had no objection even if any community apart from gorkhas becomes the chief minister of gorkhaland even if ashok bhatterjee become the c.m.
Vimal Khawas said
thats GREAT of him. Thats what I had always thought– we should think big.
After a new state forms it will be a common property of the diverse residents of the state and not a private property of the Nepali Speakers.
pseude said
Dear Vimal,
Trying to correct historical facts or legends or whatever is always fraught with serious dangers and consequences. During the second world war, a lot of land swapping was done between the victors and the defeated and these have become the reality of today. Eg. Hungary sided with Germany and later lost the vast Transylvania region to Romania after Germany’s surrender. Translyvania is almost completely populated by hungarian (magyar) speaking romanians today. If Hungary were to decide to correct this wrong, all hell would break loose and propel Europe towards another conflict. On the other hand, Romania and Hungary today are great friends and both are members of the EU. There are several romanians living and working in Hungary legally. That is because pragmatism has ruled the day.
All of us whose parents were refugees in 1947-48 left behind vast tracts of land and property in east bengal and came over only with two or three sets of clothes and no money. Those who brought money had it looted by the muslim league supporters (in exchange for their lives) on their way to this side of the border. Many a times, the women were taken away never to be seen again. So now, if we decide to correct this historical “wrong”, how is it going to work out and what consequences would it have? Would Bangladesh just hand over the land on a platter or what?
Regarding the friendship treaty, I agree its not the Indian gorkhas who want it. However there are heaps of Nepalese gorkhas who have settled in Siliguri taking advantage of it and are masquerading as indian gorkhas and have put their weight behind this agitation.
Your observation “After a new state forms it will be a common property of the diverse residents of the state and not a private property of the Nepali Speakers.” is a noble thought. However it hardly ever works out that way. That is similar to Jinnah’s vision as well for Pakistan except the fact that in West Pakistan, hindus now form less than 2% of the population. The rest have been quickly purged or converted following partition. In many states of India, language based chauvanism is a part of daily life – eg. Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra and now even Karnataka. Bengal was away from all this all this while but these agitations will only serve to harden bengalis more and make them more communal minded.
Development indexes are not too good in South bengal either. But that doesnt mean Bengalis living in north bengal would ever be a part of Gorkhaland or any land which are spearheaded by non-bengalis. The bandh yesterday does say it all.
Regards.
jiwan said
if bunch of people come to your shop and force you to close your shop them what you will ? in my para shop were opened till 10 am but was later forced to close(as if these shop had not supported gorkhaland they had not opened their shop from morning)
And support from few marwari organisation from siliguri area yesterday shows that they also want gorkhaland.
and considering the lates discussion on second state reorganistation which has darjeeling in its list says it all.
To speak of the fact of siliguri support for gorkhaland, it will be people of other community apart from bengali and gorkha will decide.
jiwan said
And to speak of how democracy prevail in siliguri, yesterday many people were stop from taking part in the meeting from my area by some rowdy elements and i had to take a detour to avoide any any trouble that would hamper us and our demand in future
pseude said
Dear Jiwan, I think gorkhaland has a much higher degree of success if it just concentrates on areas where gorkhas have always been a majority – such as Darjeeling, Kalimpong etc. Even I would support it then. But beleive me, no amount of chest thumping or threats will make Siliguri part of Gorkhaland. Parties like gjmm who have started the trouble now will be at the receiving end later. Regarding Marwaris – they are known to sing to the wind to further their business interests. Many of these are people who setup businesses in the 90s after having been purged from Assam by the Ulfa. They just need to make a few wrong moves to get into the bad books on this side as well.
YK Shrestha said
Thanks Pseude, I appreciate your knowledge and concerns. As far as SILGARHI (original name of Siliguri) is concerned, I think Vimal Khawas has clarified it. We have nothing as such against the Bengalees. Tell me, if the West Bengal govt had been genuinely concerned about Hills, there should have been a University there which has been a long pending demand. Had they any goodwill about the hills, then SIT should have been in the Hills. The Bengal Govt. has very cleverly kept it out of DGHC. For the Bengal Govt. Darjeeling is just an ornamental piece. You have given the eg. of Romania, Hungary and West Pakistan. I think that is an exception, othewise you can see what is happening in East Europe. Nobody wants to be dominated and you can see the result that there are so many new Countries there in East Europe today. About West Pakistan, the less said the better it is, Islamists have never respected other religions, then why debate on that at all? No one is against the Bengalee Hindus who have crossed over to India from Bangladesh. Look at Malda, Midnapore, today the majority are Bengalee Muslims there. Tomorrow, they might as well ask for the merger with Bangladesh. There may be few Gorkhas who would have come to Silgarhi from Nepal and settled down, but the majority of them are from Assam,Sikkim, Manipur, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh. Gorkhas are peace loving people who go about their work and do not bother others and that is the reason why the Gorkhas are persecuted in Manipur, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh. They get all the facilites in Nagaland and Mizoram and they have been officially recognised as one of the major tribes there. Our people are in a majority in Dharamsala, but the local govt and the Indian govt give a damn about it. We have places in Uttarakhand where the gorkhas are in a majority but the govt cares two hoots about them. Pseude, we have been dominated, persecuted and used for long.What would u do if you had been in our place????
BTW, you could also be mistaken that many Gorkhas have come from Nepal and settled in Silgarhi,but there are lot of Nagas, Mizos and Kukis who have been coming there and setting down, but most of them have bought the land within DGHC. I had an opportunity to interact with many of them and they said they felt safe to be within DGHC. That speaks volume about our generosity.
Let’s discuss, but not abuse each other. It has been great sparring with you and let’s keep doing that. It will only help us to know each other better. BUT, let us not abuse each other.
Pseude, how about revealing your identity now
Jyoti Mukhia said
I am thrilled and very happy deep inside seeing yesterday’s public meeting. 7th May 2008 is and will be the milestone in the history of Gorkhaland movement.It is very improper on the part of Ashok Bhattacrjee to compare yesterday’s meeting with that of Nazis. He must be threatened by seeing the mood of the people. Movement is led by using heart and mind and here Bimal Gurung is successful. There are forces which are blowing agianst the Goal of Hill people like Greater Sikkim, Few Bengali community (Is it the CPM group?) in Siliguri and our own CPM. Organizing of successful meeting yesterday has really boost up the morale of the people.
pseude said
You are mistaken. It will further vitiate the atmoshphere and bring in further trouble. Wait to see the long term effects.
Frnd of Gorkhali said
Plz dont deform the name Siliguri to Silgarhi. It sounds very bad as someone calling Gorkha as Goorkha.
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Dear Shreshtaji, I must give credit to Himachal Pradesh that in their latest General Knowledge book they have listed Gorkhali as one of the languages spoken. They have mentioned about Gorkha presence giving the village Dari as being Gorkha-dominated one. Also they have correctly written that the Gorkhas came in 1804 on invitation from the hill rajas to protect them from the oppressions of the Ruling Katoch King of Kangra. Of the 11 luminaries of Dharamshala mentioned in the HP encyclopaedia, 5 are Gorkhas. The famous Bhagsunag Shiva temple of Dharamshala also is recognised as a Gorkha heritage with a large insignia of the 1st Gorkha Regiment on the roof. Yes more has to be done for the Gorkha community to rise besides just being fauzis (who are also very important to preserve the Gorkha regimental heritage). But it is slowly happening. The push has to come from the families and Gorkha organisations have to be more united on social issues. BJP and Congress factions are already dividing the community.
On the other hand, the latest Uttarakhand General knowledge book makes no mention of Gorkhas at all. There is a total discrimination there.
On Bangladeshis, we must be understand that only thirtyodd years ago they suffered the worst nightmares under generals Yahya Khan, Zia and their men. Many Gorkha regiments alongwith other Indian regiments fought for the liberation of Bangladesh. George Harrison (The Beatles) also composed a song called ‘Bangladesh’ to express his support for the people.
jiwan said
Pseude, to bring to your view that few decade back the largest town in north bengal was jalpaiguri. Now siliguri have become the largest town in N.bengal and this was possible not because of Bengalis and Gorkha but due to the business minded community like marwaris, biharis etc. You gave example of assam and what happen there to marwaris. I hope they have the right to express themself even if their move is economic, and I dont think there are Ulfa here in siliguri to drive then away or are they here in siliguri too (ulfa or like them)?
pseude said
Dear Mr Shreshta, Thanks again for your comments. As I said before, I have no issues with Gorkhaland coming up in Darjeeling, Kalimpong etc. – but not in Siliguri or areas where Bengalis are in majority. This is because you cannot ignore the other historical fact that Bengali hindu refugees who were purged from East Bengal came to West Bengal in seach of a secure future and were settled in many areas including these. This was backed by the government. The people who came were indians in undivided india then and chose to remain indian by crossing over to this side. They could have stayed back on the other side and risked their lives or settled to a third class existence but they didnt. The circumstances havent changed because the legacy of partition is too strong to be shaken off in a mere 50-60 years.
Regarding developmental issues like the university cited, the local leaders know best whats needed and its unfortunate they couldnt get the university started even after DGHC was formed. The question goes back to Ghising on what he was doing during these 20 odd years when he was the undisputed badshah. Why does Darjeeling not have good roads or clean water. Where did all the money go.
I aggree again with the observation on the Bengali muslims. They are settling illegally in all parts of india now and are a major security threat.
Kukis, Nagas etc. are Indians and are welcome to settle in DGHC or any other part of Bengal or India if they want to lead better and safer lives. If you visit other parts of Bengal, you will find Biharis and Oriyas in huge numbers. They havent faced persucution like they have in Maharashtra or Punjab. However they should stay away from politics by taking sides because the generosity would soon evaporate.
Regarding Europe – good observation again. While many new countries are coming up in areas that have remained conflict zones for centuries (eg Yugoslavia), there is the other EU movement which is opening up borders and bringing together cultures as well.
Frnd of Gorkhali said
Mr. Shreshta, we, the hill peoples are friendly, calm, humane and peace loving. Everybody recognise that. But the point is why we are being led by a man who was the proclaimed right hand of Mr. Ghising and has a criminal past record? Is our community is not able to produce a better leader with decent record? Who knows he is not doing all these for his vested interest?
pseude said
Regarding Yayha Khan -you are very correct. He was the butcher and systematically killed millions of bengali hindus who were still left behind over there. But indian army got involved much later and initially it was the CRPF and BSF who were involved with helping the Mukti Bahini.
Jyoti Mukhia said
Where is Barun today? I was expecting exclusive report today in this blog with exclusive photos.
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Okay okay in whatever order but they did do so
YK Shrestha said
Frnd of Gorkhali,
BG could have been hands in glove with Iskoos. I give a damn to that. BG had the guts to revolt against him and raise the demand of Gorkhaland again.
To be honest, good people do not survive in politics anyways.
YK Shrestha said
Dear Thapa Maniji,
Thank you for the information shared by you. We need to have Gorkha Organisations to keep us united and fight for the due recognition.
rgds
YK Shrestha
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Goodness Gracious! Ashok Bhattacharya has compared yesterday’s rally speakers to Nazis from world war 11. How many more feet does he have left to put in his mouth.?
jiwan said
fren of gokhali, why u complain so much. Sometimes you complain regarding donation taken by Gjmm, sometimes regarding the number of people in the siliguri meeting and you say u felt ‘disgusting’ with the numbes of people in the meeting and use the word
‘extraordinary’ with the success of bandh. And have started questioning the of bimal gurung.
I wonder have u see a real bandh as i mention earlier that only shop were close and gov. Offices were open and even vehicle we moving in the market area.
And have been living for a long time in siliguri have not ever seen such a huge croud in my life in a meeting called by any party but still you say u felt disgusted with the number of people in the meeting.
i wonder whether u really stay in the hills and even if u do i may wrong but i feel that before gjmm came into power u were supporter of gnlf, that why u ignore the good thing that are happening and only talk of negative issue.
i am no political analyser but i think if bimal gurung view was so short sighted then he would have contested in dghc election and had become the chair man of dghc and he was the man who made people aware in huge number of the ill effect of sixth schedule and the real motive of bengal govt .
and if u dislike gjmm and bimal gurung so much there are also other party in the hill, although not so strong at present u can choose from, please dont tell me u can not do that. As i think the second strong party in terms of support is r.b rai party.
YK Shrestha said
Dear Jiwan,
I think Fren of Gorkhali is not a Gorkha at all. He is just fishing in troubled waters.
Frnd of Gorkhali said
Time will say what is negative what is positive.
Anyway, who said ‘frnd of Gorkhali’ must hav to be a Gorkha !
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Imposter!
Frnd of Gorkhali said
Started again ‘descendant of a whole army’
Jyoti Thapa said
Full marks to Mr Bimal Gurung and all the participants of the Siliguri Rally for organising and conducting such a huge and disciplined rally despite all the threats and lurking dangers. I admire your bravery and solidarity. Mr Ashok Bhattacharya’s subsequent remarks as reported in The telegraph today was very unbefitting to his position.
Jyoti Thapa said
Thanks for calling me ‘descendant of a whole army’. I like it very very much. Ho ki hoi na? Ho, Ho.
Ris ley Aandha Bhako Manchey said
Pseude shows grammatical error typed this way… try to auto correct it.. it shows Pseudo as being the correct spelling.. try to find the meaning… the words.. SHAM, FAKE, SPURIOUS spring out… and to that may I add words like… Coward.. Indecent.. Chauvinist.. Showoff.. Ego maniac?? Probably I should…
At one point above he says.. “Hello Jyoti Mani – do what you do best – go and cook for your family. Orelse come and face our cadres…”
Mr. Pseude even while having his delusions of grandeurs lacks to courage to challange any Nepali male… Shame on you… going by your statement.. presumably you are the kind of person whose wife has never seen the world by herself?? Even though she had an MA degree.. she is applying all her skills she learned in class to clean the dishes.. listen to your demented ramblings.. and act like a rag doll… Shame on you…
You talk about being a sensible person… let’s talk some sense.. Currently Darjeeling Hills get roughly around 100 crores annually… Out of which 70 Crores flow down to Silagarih.. If we have a state of our own and start getting 500 Crores per annum… can’t you see at least 350 crores will flow to Silagarih… Now tell me what should make more sense to an educated mind like your’s??
You threaten of taking your child off a school in Darjeeling… Please do so.. as I am sure… no one in your family goes to school here.. if U feel so certain of your thoughts.. then act.. take them off… and please don’t threaten us about the consequences… I will personally face the consequences of you taking your ward (who is studying somewhere in Silagarih itself)off from school…
Sir, as the popular song goes.. So what if your parents and most of your extended family came to india in 1947-48…. So what if they established themselves out of nothing… So what if one of your maternal uncles retired as a consular general of India in new york… So what if your own father is a retired civil servant (IA&AS)… YOU ARE NONE OF THESE… so that don’t impress me much…
BY the way.. I suggest you to read the following article before blasting your anger filled…vindictive sicko mind.. makes you write rejoinder…
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/darjeeling-detour/
Hope you will see some light…
Johnny Gorkha said
hahahahah seven days people !!!!!! seven days ! one day less ! I hope someone is doing his homework properly…10,000 people will be coming baby !
I guess there is no point trying to substantiate our demand for Gorkhaland to people who are desperately trying to deny the historical facts. I would suggest all the anti-Gorkhaland pro-CPIM supporters to please go through the History of Darjeeling/Kalimpong/Dooars/Siliguri, (Ask Barun to help you with the books; newspaper or magazines are not enough) read thoroughly and then prove your point with reference to the books on the issue concerned. Then discussion will yield some degree of understanding and insight. There is no need trying to prove your point writing about your family in a public domain, and who is going trust you in the first place.
It gives me a headache just to come down to your level ! So please get yourself educated, get better equipped with valuable and noteworthy information and then start a discussion. GOT IT !!! Don’t write crap about what you heard from someone over a cup of tea ! get your facts RIGHT and ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH !!!! so long and happy hunting !
jiwan said
I am shocked to find how desperate CPIM leaders like Jibitesh Sarkar and Asok Bhattacharya are.
On one hand they feel angry when Bimal Gurung says “Asok Bhattacharya is free to visit the hills, hold meetings, dance and sing and do whatever he wants to”.
On the other hand they they call us foreigner when people from the hills wants to come to siliguri to put forward their demand for Gorkhaland and seeing yesterday crowd i guess these two have gone crazy and today in siliguri gave and interview and said that yesterday public meeting was attended by TERRORIST GROUP LIKE
1.TERRORIST GROUP OF BHUTAN WHO ARE STAYING IN NEPAL AND THEY CAME TO SILIGURI TO ATTEND MEETING IN GANDHI MAIDAN AFTER CROSSING MECHI RIVER,
2.KLO
3.ULFA
4.TERRORIST FROM BODOLAND.
It really sucks as doing so much for our country India and still doing for our mother land , when we demand something for ourself we are called foreigner and now we have been called “TERRORIST”
The picture now have started clearing as when leaders like Jibitesh Sarkar and Asok Bhattacharya have often in news channel that ” the only party that think about the development of the Gorkhas is CPIM” but their today comment proves that they and their party are not for the development and upliftment of the Gorkhas but are only concern about their position only.
jiwan said
I am shocked to find how desperate CPIM leaders like Jibitesh Sarkar and Asok Bhattacharya are.
On one hand they feel angry when Bimal Gurung says “Asok Bhattacharya is free to visit the hills, hold meetings, dance and sing and do whatever he wants to”.
On the other hand they they call us foreigner when people from the hills wants to come to siliguri to put forward their demand for Gorkhaland and seeing yesterday crowd i guess these two have gone crazy and today in siliguri gave and interview and said that yesterday public meeting was attended by TERRORIST GROUP LIKE
1.TERRORIST GROUP OF BHUTAN WHO ARE STAYING IN NEPAL AND THEY CAME TO SILIGURI TO ATTEND MEETING IN GANDHI MAIDAN AFTER CROSSING MECHI RIVER,
2.KLO
3.ULFA
4.TERRORIST FROM BODOLAND.
It really sucks as doing so much for our country India and still doing for our mother land , when we demand something for ourself we are called foreigner and now we have been called “TERRORIST”
The picture now have started clearing as when leaders like Jibitesh Sarkar and Asok Bhattacharya have often in news channel that ” the only party that think about the development of the Gorkhas is CPIM” but their today comment proves that they and their party are not for the development and upliftment of the Gorkhas but are only concern about their position only and will say and do anything for their position and seat
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
I attempted to sober it down to keep the blog decent but the threat to face the CPM cadres is very very serious stuff. It shows a mind which is anti-women (including the earlier remark about why the three women were roaming around). If you have Nandigram in mind, understand that never never even dream of messing around with any Gorkha woman. During the Anglo-Gurkha wars, the women and children fought alongside their men and made the lives of the enemy miserable with their stone throwing down the fort ramparts and then beat them up with sticks. After the Battle of Nalapani, the brits were shocked to see so many dead bodies of women and children that they burned the entire fort down before the news could spread that they had not evacuated women and children as per any war rules.
pseude said
Dear Ris ley Whatever…I’ll ignore your personalized tirade towards me coz I’m quite done with these. As Barun says, we need to maintain some code of conduct here and I will attempt to follow the same.
As far as your financial figures go, well, as Shania Twain says, they dont impress me much either because I’m sure you were not the auditor of their last budget and you merely beleive what tharkies like Bimal Gurung and Ghising tell ya.
So now youre riled about the my family background – are you? So what about all you descendants of “soldiers” and ex-students of NDI who fought in some war or the other right from the beginning of time? How come your sense of fair-go didnt strike you then? But then it feels good to read about Nepali exploits, real and made up – isnt it?
Yesterday ETV Bangla channel showed Gurung saying – “Ma ka dud piya hai toh zamne aaa zaa”. This was meant for Asok Bhattacharjee. Looks like he’s cracking up finally and is now stooping to ma ka dud level. Tomorrow he might start off with BC, MC gaalis as well.
YK Shrestha said
Hey Pseude,
I agree with Ris ley Aandha Bhako Manchey 100%.
pseude said
Request you to please ignore grammatical mistakes or typos. As it is, we are not writing business memos here.
pseude said
Dear Mr Shreshta,
Its OK. You are entitled to your views. But I hope you woudnt support his particular style of personal attack.
Regards.
Ris ley Aandha Bhako Manchey said
Psude…. please go and do reality check… seems like after reading Darjeeling Detour.. U are kind’a feeling all left out and vulnerable.. bet trust me Bro… Support Gorkhaland right now and U won’t regret in the future…
Love ya… and love your types…Regards,
Ris
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
You are so gone that you are defaming the Battle of nalapani where the Gorkhas died out of thirst for water which had been cut off by the Brits, as a MADE UP NEPALI EXPLOIT! go and read history books instead of assuming and assuming all the time. Take a trip to Dehradun and see the Battle of nalapani site and memorials preserved honourably by the Archaelogical Survey of India.
The first battle against the Brits in Nn and Central India was fought by the Gorkhas in October 1814 in Dehradun, India. Years before 1857.
The second, a few months later on May 1815 in Malaun and Nahan in today’s Himachal Pradesh, India
To summarise, the first battles against the British was fought by the Gorkhas in Northern India
Gorkhey Jeep! said
Friends,
Be careful, the gravatar (avtars) are unique to us. Faking cooments can be caught and become embarrasing.
pseude said
Dear Jyoti Ji, who told you I defamed any particular battle – just show me. And no need to go back to 1815. I request you to read about partition where 10 million people in Bengal and Punjab were killed, maimed, displaced or simply disappeared. It happened just a little over a half century before.
Bengalis have faced such situations before. In 1946, another rabid dog called Hussain Shahid Surawardy wanted to take away Calcutta by force into East Pakistan by terrorising the people with his “direct action” (ladke lenge pakistan). What followed is history and Calcutta is very much a part of India.
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
I have been the only one to have expressed sympathy on the anguish of the Bangladeshis and I stick by it. You have made personal digs in item no 76. Any personal information given by people who are not hiding behind false identities cannot be misused by those using who are participating under madeup names.
And yes you need to read about 1815 because we are discussing Gorkha history here and the identity of Gorkhas. If you are not interested kindly search for another blog.
Dear Barun, pl kindly put in this as a code of conduct. It is difficult to exchange any constructive ideas with the presence of people who are deliberately trying to disturb the line of dialogue. It is obvious that many bloggers have dropped out because of this guy. His intentions are very clear.
pseude said
And what about your pal – Ris Ley…? No personal attacks there, is it? And is that his real name or what?
Exactly what difference does it make if you are Jyoti Mani or Shilpa Shetty? And what difference does it make to you whether I am Soumen Bag or Paritosh Jana? Why are you so hung up on identities? A web identity can be created in 2 secs and thats all its worth.
The history of partition is not only relevant to Bengal or Punjab but to the whole of India. It is the very reason why India, Pakistan and Bangladesh exist as seperate nations today. All those areas where refugees settled are all the more relevant. This is the only history modern India should be caring about.
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Sorry I forgot to add. The Anglo-Gorkha wars was 4 pronged. I ahve already mentioned two. To our interest is The fourth one at the larger Sikkim area where the General called George Wood, ran away before he could face the Gorkhas. He was subsequently sacked. The war was also called the graveyard of British Generals. General marley and Wood both ran away before any encounter. General Gillespie got killed the first day. Only Ochterlony got saved because by that time the treaty of Sugauli was forced upon.
jiwan said
i guess we are here to disscuss the gorkhaland issue.
i personally have no problem with with people live in india after partition in some cases i even with a big heart have nothing to say about people who illigally came and settle in india after creation of bangladesh.
But i loose my mind when these illigal migrant who came after creation of bangladesh, whose number are large specially in n.bengal, come up and challenge our gokha history and call us immigrant from nepal although they can never prove it.
It is shocking the cpim govt. which give big speech that it cares for the gorkha community but allow organisation like amra bengali to openly give speeches in siliguri,town to propagate that we the indian gorkha are immigrate from nepal.
Now my question is why organisation like jjm(janjagaran mancha) led by many intellectuals which include siliguri college principal came with the idea of identification of indian Gorkha before and after the treaty of 1950. Why we indian gorkha have to keep on proving we are indian and we are not immigrant but we came to india with our own land.
Had the intention of janjagaran mancha so fare then why are they keeping their eyes close to the illigal immigration from bangladesh that are happening in india and specially in n.bengal. This are the things which me think why are these intellectuals against gorkhas. If judgement are to be given then it should be fare enough. Idenitification should be done of illigal immigrants also. As firstly there is no treaty with bangladesh with india on free movement of people from either country. Secondly the illigal immigrants from bangladesh are able to get ratiö card and even voter card and are able to buy land.
YK Shrestha said
Hi Pseude,
No I don’t agree with him and for that matter anyone who abuses and tries to put down other communities.
Let’s keep this blog clean and discuss on the facts and do not try to distort the historical facts. It seems for you anything related to Bengalees are the historical facts and anything related to the Gorkhas are made up/cooked up. You are doing exactly what that nicoompoop Sumanta Sen has been doing. Let’s learn to respect each other.
Jyoti Mukhia said
Anybody read sumenta Sen recently? Read him.(http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080507/jsp/opinion/story_9233218.jsp)It looks he is from the intelligence bureau and knows all the details. It is really shocking that the things told in the article are not supported with the facts at this age of investigative journalism.Let me quote from the article:
“The agitation during the Eighties was not peaceful either. At that time, the arms and the ammunition used to come clandestinely from Nepal. At present, that supply line has got disrupted. But this should not worry the agitators as long as Ulfa is active. The supporters of Greater Cooch Behar and Kamtapur have ensured that the arms reach the hills and the other sensitive spots in north Bengal.” He again writes “The developments in the hills and in the adjoining plains should make the supporters of secessionist movements pause and reflect. They should realize that a concerted move is on to disrupt the peace in this region, and that these demands are illogical. The Nepalese cannot claim that their homeland is in foreign hands. Similarly, the Rajbansis of Cooch Behar and Jalpaiguri have no case when they seek to argue, as some of their leaders do, that they are not a part of the Bengali family.”
What is he tryiong to do? Is he trying to pacify the demands? How is it the demand of separate statehood is illogical?
nepalidai said
Jyoti,
This guy has gone mad. I don’t know how a lunatic can be a writer in a trusted reputed newspaper. Did you see he has started attacking Kamtapuris now. I think he is speaking with a solid backing from some strong opposition parties. काग कराउदै जान्छ पिना सुक्दै जान्छ ।
jiwan said
i heard that sumentra sen took part in the rally against wht is happening in nandigram.
i think sumentra sen has started speaking what ashok bhatterjee has been speaking.
It is strange to know that well learned man and intellectual person took pride in there culture and say they are non communial, but when time comes to give right to other community they turn their head and even dont hesitate to call them terrorist.
Today the c.m gave an interview in kolkatta that the is no question and provision of creation of state.
Gorkhey jeep said
Guys check this out! And Pseude don’t comment badly on this, because I am gonna find you and skin you. Beware, i am in a bad mood today.
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/this-is-how-india-treats-her-soldiers/
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Dear nepalidai
Request fulfilleed
Kundan said
No point arguing and wasting our valuable efforts trying to justify and rationalize with folks like Pseude and Frens…. Are we short of foes.Barking dogs will bark and bitches will bitch….
Vrykolakas said
…and let none threaten us with goondas and cadres…haami chai heri bascha ki ke ho!!
lau lau…
we just wont sit and watch!!!we are not helpless and poor like the people of nandigram..
gorkha ko ragat po cha ta hau haami ma..
but we are following Gandhijis path…non violence ko..
we dont go around kicking womenfolk and harassing them…nor do we gather in strength and appear brave by beating one guy!!
we wont be provoked this time…see!!
Aardee said
Good for you Ris Le andha bha ko manche get Pseudo’s address go get him…atta boy!
Only am wondering if u are andha bha ko manche how will you recognise who to hit out at…
Yais lagi please Ris ma don’t get andha tara arko Pseudo lai andha banaunu…
Seriously though that poor Pseudo dosen’t know his a*** from his backside…don’t give him the pleasure of riling you and making you ris le andha…ris le go out and do something positive to keep our Gorkha flag flying high!
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Sandeep said
You miserable little weasels. You want to get us? Bunch of f### up watchmen. When the f##k were you ever part of this country that you want to be now? Whenever someone argues, you call them a##### and want to dismiss them off? Do you think that just because people dont use the gutter language of you hash addicts, then cant cut you up? You want to raise the temperature, you stupid worms? We will blow you and your nanis sky high into the atmosphere before you even get to see your savvy gorkhaland with your droopy eyelids you morons.
Someone said, 1 nepali is equal to 100 bengalis. Well then, ############
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Sandeep said
Shala – address ki shudu torai ber korte paarish – toder address’o aamara khujchi beta.
| Moderator| Plez restrain from abusing the forum!
Upendra said
Hey Ardee!!! thanks for your calm words… but what U failed to see was.. I was just trying rationalize and reason with Pseude and seems like he cannot continue arguing… Poor him.. I feel sorry.. I feel like he has always trusted CPI(M) to do everything correct.. like find college for him.. then job and quick promotions… that he believes everything they say?(esp. Ashok Bhattu)…
What he realizes and dosen’t want to show is that Gorkhaland makes much much much more sense for Silagarih than stayin with Bengal…
Pseude if it eases your pain let me quote Tolstoy.. when asked if he’d die for his convictions.. he said.. ” No.. I won’t… I could be wrong…” ever thought you could be wrong my friend??
And trust me.. anger or no anger.. We are way better than most of these people
jiwan said
LOOK LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALL FIRED UP, AND ARE DIE HARD SUPPORTERS OF GORKHALAND.
BUT IF WE REALLY WANT GORKHALAND TO BE A REALITY THEN WE MUST FIGHT WITH OUR BRAINS AND NOT WITH OUR HANDS AS THAT WILL ONLY JEOPARDIZE OUR DEMAND.
I BELIEVE MOST OF OF YOU GUYS ARE FROM THE HILLS , SO I WOULD TELL YOU SOME REALITY THAT ARE HAPPENING IN SILIGURI.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FIGHT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST OUR GORKHALAND THEN I WOULD SUGGEST YOU THAT PLEASE AVOID ANY SOPPING FROM HONGKONG MARKET AS ALMOST ALL THE SHOPS ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT AMRA BANGALI, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST GORKHALAND.
I HAVE A XEROX COPY WHICH WERE CIRCULATED ALL THOUGH THE HONGKONG MARKET ON 6/05/08 THE DAY BEFORE MEETING IN SILIGURI BY GJMM TO SHOW THEIR UNWILLINGNESS FOR THE FORMATION GORKHALAND.
WHETHER YOU PEOPLE REMEMBER OR NOT EVEN AFTER 28/09/07 MANY GORKHA WERE HARASSED IN HONGKONG MARKET. AND I GOT NEWS FROM MY AUNT THAT ON 6/05/08 SOME GORKHAS WERE HARASSED AGAIN.
WE HAVE TALK A LOT I GUESS IT IS TIME TO SHOW, NOT WITH OUR HAND BUT WITH OUR MIND/ BRAINS.
COZ IT WOULD BE FOOLISH ON OUR PART TO GO AN BUY FROM THE VERY PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM RICH WHO ARE AGAINST GORKHALAND.
SO I URGE ALL GORKHALAND SUPPORT TO AVOID SHOPPING IN HONGKONG MARKET AND PLEASE SPREAD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL GORKHALAND SUPPORTERS FORM THE HILLS.
JAI GORKHA
JAI GORKHALAND
JAI HIND
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aardee said
Everybody just cool it…restrain your selves and please guys don’t go abusing womenfolk…its in very poor taste besides this is a forum to be used to show concern as well as inform each other…and everyone please remember we are Indians 1st and we are also Gorkhas…just like the Biharis, UPites, Malyalee, Bengalis, Gujaratis are also Indians first. Let us not question what each community has done for India or belittle any communities contribution…together we are all part of the India team…HUM (GORKHE) bhi hain India team mein.
Vrykolakas said
i wanna say smthing….people in the hills know why we need gorkhaland…its not just the ethnic nepalis ..marwaris ,bengalis and people from other communities and religions from darjeeling know that our demand is justified and they support us cause thay are deprived as well!!!
my friends ,let us not attack anyone…and let us give a damn about what others say…
ive got plenty of friends from all communities so i wont attack anyone personally like this rotten #### sandeep who hates nepalis…people like him are like mosqitoes …irritating and persistent..
let us ignore these people.
All i wanna say is that now weve got somthin to belive in,something to look forward to..something that makes us smile and be excited about…that dream ,that vision is Gorkhaland…
let us remain true to the cause and be willing to fight for it!!
GORKHALAND WILL BE ACHIEVED
…….peace to all……..
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