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Factors of Gorkhaland Movement

Posted by barunroy on June 29, 2008

By Vimal Khawas

The present movement for separate state of Gorkhaland in the Darjeeling hills and its adjacent terai area can be debated at two levels – national and regional.

At the national level Indian Nepali speakers/Gorkhas have always felt that they are treated as foreigners by the mainstream Indians. To a large extent their feeling is correct. Mainstream India repeatedly confuses with the Nepali of Nepal and Indian Nepali. As a consequence, bonafide Indian Nepali speakers suffer psychological as well as physical insecurity.

The culprit here, as often highlighted, is the Treaty of Peace and Friendship ( 1950 ) between India and Nepal. In the present context, not less than 50 per cent of the total Nepali population in India is composed of Nepalis who have crossed over from Nepal on the strength of this treaty- in search of greener pasture.

It is also that the history of Indian Gorkhas/Nepalis has been very poorly written by mainstream Indian historians. They did this possibly due to the lack of historical material available with them. As a result mainstream Indians even today believe that all the Nepali speakers on the Indian soil are Nepalese citizens and thus are foreigners. They are unaware of the fact that there are over a crore of bonafide Indian Nepalis/Gorkhas residing in India.

Moreover, as rightly highlighted by many Indian Nepali/Gorkha academicians and critiques, Indian Gorkha leaders like Dambar Singh Gurung and Ratanlal Brahmin negatively impacted the lives of Indian Nepalis in the post-independent India. There were several instances when they openly articulated their loyalty towards Nepal instead of their motherland. The speech by Dambar Singh Gurung in the Constituent Assembly ( 1948 ) immediately after the independence of India provides a prominent example in this regard.

At the regional level several factors can be attributed for the development of a need to carve out a separate state for the Indian Gorkhas. First and the most important factor in this respect has been the discrimination and step motherly treatment meted out towards the Gorkhas by West Bengal Government for many years. Such act of West Bengal can be recorded in every sector of development.

Basic infrastructure facilities like adequate educational institutions, health centres, communication, drinking water etc can be taken as important indicators in this respect. It is surprising that over 45 per cent of the villages in the region still do not have electricity facility while over 40 per cent of the villagers still have to walk to their nearest town. The spatial distribution of health centres and primary schools is extremely poor. With regard to the institutions of higher and technical learning, Darjeeling occupies the last position among the districts of West Bengal. The only University of Darjeeling district, University of North Bengal, is always flooded by the Bengalis. Rampant unemployment of Gorkha youths is another critical phenomenon that has contributed to the movement. Government offices in Darjeeling are swamped by Bengalis not to talk in other parts of Bengal.

Further, the superiority complex on the part of Bengalis and vice-versa in case of the Gorkhas has been an outstanding factor contributing to Gorkhaland movement. T. B. Subba ( 1992 ), a noted anthropologist remarks in this connection:

“Long years of interaction between the hill communities and the plainsmen (mainly the Bengalis) had more to do with Gorkhaland demand than anything else. On the one hand these communities had already developed various sorts of interdependence, agrarian and trade being two most important in this regard. Then there was the Nepali language to express themselves with each other and lay the foundation of hill ethnicity. On the other hand, they suffered from certain politico-economic disadvantages vis-a vis the plainsmen. Besides whatever little communication that took place between the hill men and the plainsmen being through the English or Hindi language such an interaction was limited to the educated class and businessmen”.

Subba further asserts

” the argument that the Bengalis in particular often behaved as masters in Darjeeling hills cannot be easily brushed aside…Had their attitude towards the hill people been healthy the latter would probably have no strong reason to seek a separation from the former”

Mainstream Bengalis customarily consider themselves as superior to the Gorkhas intellectually. They have systematically discriminated and controlled the Gorkhas of Darjeeling academically over the years. Bengalis traditionally assume that Nepali speakers/Gorkhas of Darjeeling could never score first division marks in the board exams of the state. To cite an example, a dedicated Bengali teacher of Darjeeling Government College was shocked to witness discrimination of hill colleges of Darjeeling and Sikkim in the late 1990s by Bengali teachers of North Bengal University. As a part of the external examiners at NBU he observed that no students of the hill colleges would score first division marks if students of the plain colleges, particularly Siliguri College, did not score first division marks. His only advice to his honours students of which this writer was also a part was -”You guys have no options other than studying with sincerity and dedication. You have to win your battle through sincerity. The people down below do not want you guys to come up. They want to keep you at the bottom.”

The movement for separate state of Gorkhaland is the product of these factors. It has to do with identity of Indian Nepalis/Gorkhas at national level and development of Darjeeling and its surrounding milieu, both physically and psychologically, at regional level.

135 Responses to “Factors of Gorkhaland Movement”

  1. tatu said

    dear khawas , every body knows indian gorkhas are indian as others. i am a product of N.B.U. i have never seen any discrimination with any one. it is mental setup. as that teacher said about “sincerity” he is right. because, many of our (hills ) student in shivmandir concentrate on some thing else (hope you understand)rather then study. their lifestyle is also very vulger not like a student. i have found, that sillguri people often said where from this guys (student) gets money for their lavish lifestyle. so,it is my perception, we need a complete social reform before anything else.

  2. Hi said

    I agree,
    let the complete social revolution begin by formation of GORKHALAND to ensure regional, linguistic, cultural, development and harmony. It is only by ensuring these rights and opportunities to every Indian can we build and proud and glorious India capable of standing among the developed countries in the future.

  3. aardee said

    Vimal Khawas, well written piece I hope it gets published…do ofcourse be specific Nepali is a language…Nepalese are citizens of Nepal…we are Gorkhas and Indian.

    Nepali hamari bhasha hain…Hum Hindustani hain!

  4. Diwakar Pradhan said

    Dear Khawasjyu,
    Go on writing. You have many possibilities.
    You have the good calibre to promote our issues.
    -Diwakar Pradhan.

  5. Jyoti T M said

    Gorkhas as Indians was accepted. Till they began demanding their own state. That was not accepted because there is already a Nepali speaking country called Nepal. But that does not justify any reason for denying Gorkhaland. Also the nature of the gorkha demand for a state is unique from any other state demand. The Gorkhas are not just about residents in a area. It is an all India heritage and figures majorly in Indian history, not to speak of the dozen plus Gorkha regiments who are totally for India. That is the special thing about the community. By the logic of those who call Gorkhas foreigners then the Gorkha Regts are also foreign regts. But they are not. The demand for Gorkhaland is an unique case and has to be studied so by the government and scholars and researchers. It is more legitimate than any other state demand. In fact it is so legitimate and correct that they just do not know what to do about it.

  6. premesh said

    tatu Says:
    June 29, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    dear khawas , every body knows indian gorkhas are indian as others. i am a product of N.B.U. i have never seen any discrimination with any one. it is mental setup. as that teacher said about “sincerity” he is right. because, many of our (hills ) student in shivmandir concentrate on some thing else (hope you understand)rather then study. their lifestyle is also very vulger not like a student. i have found, that sillguri people often said where from this guys (student) gets money for their lavish lifestyle. so,it is my perception, we need a complete social reform before anything else.

    Dear Tatu,
    How would you like it if your waste bangal university was full of nepali and rajbongshi professors who are competent to give lectures only in their languages and to represent you there was only one professor! It is mental setup just like the thought of creation of gorkhaland reminds you of the horrible days of partition of east and waste bangal..it is mental make up just like what the bangladeshis feel..ie if gorkhaland is given then we will all be chased back. YOu seem to be implying in your usual sly way that our boys and girls concentrate on having fun,not just on studies,so what? Who asked you or anyone else to be their moral guardians? You people try to be better than the muslims in your morality and eating habits but i too live in shivmandir and know quite a few locals who ask the hill students to bring beef from darj,cook it and invite them to come and eat it,all the while begging not to tell the others or they will chase him away? That guy is pradeep..the shop owner next to misti shop. I too have seen you guys who are so pretentious and hypocritical as if you never like to have sex but when it gets dark and youre all hanging outside the hostels,some guys are really enjoying the time of their lives under the shawls,in the bushes like monkeys…the difference between us is that we are open and dont have any complexes whereas you think you’re more proper and holymoly than the muslims who oppressed you.As for the money part..first its no thanks to waste bangal!Secondly if your heart is rich then you are rich.We dont start saving for our retired lives from the time we are teens and lastly its thanks to God who inspite of the govts best efforts to ruin darj out of jealousy,it still supports us sufficiently to live decent lives and its also all the people who go to all parts of the world,mostly middle east and send back money for their children to blow..unlike you guys who have only confidence in your waste bangal govt to give you jobs you dont deserve!

  7. RAJA said

    Mr. Khawas has written:

    “”With regard to the institutions of higher and technical learning, Darjeeling occupies the last position among the districts of West Bengal”"

    Dear Mr. Khawas,

    Could you please provide me the statistical datas regarding your above remarks??? as per my knowledge “PURULIA DISTRICT” is most backward in every sense among all districts in West Bengal. I’m throwing a open challenge towards you in this matter…..you just kindly write me from where you got this information.

    You have written………… “Government offices in Darjeeling are swamped by Bengalis not to talk in other parts of Bengal”

    Dear Mr.Khawas rather than blaming others why the educated youths of darjeelings not competeing with so called ‘bengalis’ to get Govt. jobs???….Or you people want KOTA like SC/ST???…Ofcourse you can demand for that like our GUJJAR brothers…

    I think rather blaming to others your peoples should realise that they can compete and give a tough competition to all others indian in every aspects …… That will help…. Other than why the NE states guys are failed to get in all INDIA level competetion exam like IITS or IIMS???…Leaves IIT /IIM…that’s not possible for all but atleast you show me wht’s the percentages of center govt. employees recruiting from NE states…..Govt. Jobs are open to all……if you have credential you will get it….

    Like SIKKIM you would not get BENGAL subject…..here you have to compete with others and proof others that you have that credential to get that……

    I know my remarks is very tough to digest but it is the real truth…..

    Unemployments are not only the issues of your darjeeling it is a national issues as a educated journalist you should know that…..

  8. Sajani Rai said

    “Freedom and Liberation is not free, someone has to devotion and sacrifice his/her life.”

    Never ever live like a slave under the master. Live like a free, happy and proud human being.

    Unite, stand up and fight for your rights and freedom. There is nothing impossible things in this earth, find your enemy, find your mission, objectives and take action plans.

    Do not be selfish. Take postive and can-do attitude, you will find your dream comes true.

  9. Nepali said

    Hey, Everyone is nepali but how can you say indian to your self. That hurts we any nepali sees that………..

  10. tatu said

    @6. To get lecturer job one has to get through NET and SLET. All are not free Lunches in life. Darjeeling has best schools and colleges and enough govt dole. Utilize it properly.

  11. DobRub said

    Rightly written some points in the article.

    The nepalese of the Darjeeling region are mostly immigrants from Nepal who were either brought by the British to work in the tea plantations or they migrated themselves for a better living. Millions of times has been stated and I repeat, these group has made the indigenous people of Darjeeling…the Lepchas and the Bhutias, a minority in their own land. This is the result of the migration of the Nepalese from the other side. Appreciation has to be made of the Sikkim Govt. for not allowing them to enter Sikkim for their entrance would definitely and ultimately end in the demand for another state for the Gorkhas!!

    I for one believe, the so called Indian Nepalese are the ones who are based in the Himachal region as they speak nepali with indian accent. In other words, they use hindi in between. (JTM might agree to this!) The nepalese of Darjeeling hills are the lazier lot who don’t toil much themselves and they yearn for all the creature comforts. If they can’t achieve them then, they start attacking other communities who has so attained. Precisely, the nepalese of the Hills are communal, jealous and forthright showy!

    There’s a saying in the town which goes something like this….Darjeeling lai chai rish ra arish lai ney bigaryo!!

  12. Joseph Chamling said

    #11

    Very sarcastic comments full of hatred to the community.

    You seem to have got some bamboo from some Gorkha which flavors your heart, soul and mind and gets reflected in your these lines.

    Before some one start writing hatred towards one community, have guts to show your identity. I can go on length to write against any one given pseudo name but when I write in my name I have to be careful, thoughtful and most important responsible and that is what writing about.

    Some madrasas in Pakistan, children read A for Allah, B for Bandook and it seems you too have gone similar thoughts of schools as far as history is concerned.

  13. JTM said

    FRiends I officially declare that I am not to be associated with any of DobRub’s comments even he mentions my name.

  14. rahul said

    OU BENGALIS (EVEN WOMEN, ME BEING THE VICTIM) LAUGH AT US SAYING “KANCHA, BAHADUR EVEN IF WE ARE IN A PRESTIGIOUS POSITION IN KOLKATA OR OTHER BENGALI-INFESTED AREAS, BECAUSE IT HAMPERS YOUR DIGNITTY TO CALL US A “SIR” BUT WHEN YOU ARE HERE IN DARJEELING AS A DOCTOR OR PROFESSOR WE TREAT YOU PEOPLE AS A GOD, DOES YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR EDUCATION TEACH THIS?

  15. rahul said

    YOU BENGALIS (EVEN WOMEN, ME BEING THE VICTIM) LAUGH AT US SAYING “KANCHA, BAHADUR EVEN IF WE ARE IN A PRESTIGIOUS POSITION IN KOLKATA OR OTHER BENGALI-INFESTED AREAS, BECAUSE IT HAMPERS YOUR DIGNITTY TO CALL US A “SIR” BUT WHEN YOU ARE HERE IN DARJEELING AS A DOCTOR OR PROFESSOR WE TREAT YOU PEOPLE AS A GOD, DOES YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR EDUCATION TEACH THIS?

  16. rahul said

    MANY OF YOU EVEN WHO HAS READ THIS TEASE WE GORKHALIS SAYING KHANCHA GAMCHA, BAHADUR AND CALL IN A VERY DERAGATORY WAY, SO WHEN WE REVERT BACK WE ARE TAGGED AS “TERRORIST TO YOU”?

  17. Patleybaskounpad said

    GJMM Goons had Kidnapped me. Have asked me not to utter a single word.

    So had to utter these three/four sentences only.

    Hai Hind.

    [This comment may not be made by Patleybaskounpad]

  18. rahul said

    DobRub SO WE ARE LAZY HA? WHO HAS SAVED YOU WHEN YOU ARE TAKING FUN WTIH YOUR WIFE FROM DACOITS AND THIEVES, WHO HAS TAKEN THOUSANDS OF BULLET, WE AGREE WE WERE FROM NEPAL, BUT SEE OUR CONTRIBUTION IN NATION BUILDING, YOU BENGALIS CALL US “KANCHA” IN A DERAGATORY BUT YOU PEOPLE FORGET OUR SERVICE FOR YOU, YOU ARE COMMUNAL CASTE, I HAVE BEEN TRAVELLED EVERY WHERE IN INDIA, NO ONE CALLS BENGALI A “GOOD PEOPLE” THEY ARE VERBOSE, JEALOUS, EVEN IN IT COMPANIES IN BANGALORE THEY FORM GROUP, STAY ALOOF, AND USE POLITICS TO SACK OR RECRUIT BY USING THEIR “DIRTY MIND” MORE THAN WORK THIS IS THE REASON WHY BENGAL IS EVEN FAR BEHIND MIZORAM, SIKKIM, AND NAGALAND IN LITERACY BECAUSE OF YOUR DIRTY WAY OF THINKING, YOU BENGALIS (EVEN WOMEN, ME BEING THE VICTIM) LAUGH AT US SAYING “KANCHA, BAHADUR EVEN IF WE ARE IN A PRESTIGIOUS POSITION IN KOLKATA OR OTHER BENGALI-INFESTED AREAS, BECAUSE IT HAMPERS YOUR DIGNITTY TO CALL US A “SIR” BUT WHEN YOU ARE HERE IN DARJEELING AS A DOCTOR OR PROFESSOR WE TREAT YOU PEOPLE AS A GOD, DOES YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR EDUCATION TEACH THIS? VEN RABINDRANATH TAGORE SAID AND CRIED WHILE SAYING “REKHECHO BANGALI KORE MANUS KORE NI” EVEN BRITHERS (LORD MACAULAY ) TOLD U PEOPLE AS LAZY, LOUSY STARTED FROM BABU CULTURE, YOU GUYS ARE NEVER INDIAN BY HEART, YOU ALWAYS TOOK SOURAV AS OWN PROPERTY RATHER THAN INDIA’S PROPERTY, WHEN WE ADOPT SAME POLICY, SEARCH FOR OUR IDENTITY, YOU GUYS ARE TAGGING US AS “GUNDA” AND READ THE BOOK “ATTOGAHATI BANGALI”BY NIPRENDRANATH CHAKRAVORTY, BEFORE PROTESTING..YOU GUYS TALK OF INDIANNESS, HOW MANY OF YOU THINK INDIAN FIRST THEN BENGALI CAN YOU TELL ME? THERE ARE SO MANY EXAMPLES I CAN GIVE YOU, I JUST GAVE ONLY ONE OR TWO EXAMPLES, YOU GUYS ENTER ILLEGALLY FROM BORDER AND CLAIM YOURSEVES TO BE GREAT “INDIAN” VERY FUNNY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE TWO-MOUTHED SNAKE, YOU MAY BE CULTURALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY BETTER THAN US (AS WE WERE NOT GIVEN ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE)YOUR WAY OF THINKING, YOUR BEHAVIOR, AND YOUR SELFISHNESS AND MEAN MINDED NESS AND VERBOSITY ARE FAMOUS EVERYWHERE

  19. Phoenix Within said

    For @23.
    ” Listen, how many roads must a man walk down, before he can call him a man ” – Bob Dylan

    It is sad that we have leaders and senseless followers who are not even prepared to listen to well meaning voices of reason and derive constructive suggestions from it; Hai Hind ! indeed.

  20. Sanity said

    The BJP is currently hammering the Congress (Manmohan, Pranab, Krishna et al.) in the Lok Sabha on Baluchistan.

  21. rahul said

    IT IS FOR THE COMMUNAL FEELING (ETHNIC DOMINANCE) TOWARDS GORKHALEES THAT YOU ARE PROTESTING NOT FOR LOVE OF INDIA OKAY, I HAVE READ AND DISCUSSED WITH MANY BENGALEES IT HAS SHOWN FROM THEIR ANGER, THEIR POINTS THEY ARE RAISING THAT IT IS “ETHNIC DOMINANCE MENTALITY” WHICH IS CREATING SO MUCH FUROR IN THEM.

  22. Sanity said

    … and the Left is very very quiet! Not surprising since they have a “Baluchistan” right on their own doorstep!

  23. rahul said

    what about the support of “local support” of influx of thousands of refugees along with terrorists to cause terror in other “productive parts of india”not futile “waste bengal” You guys are “desh drohi”

  24. Pradip said

    Another BAKhawas by this shit of a theorist. ‘Reflections’ of these types always end up with negation of Bengal/Bengalis.

    Reflections of KANGSHA used to constantly revolve around KRISNA even as a foe. This only virtue took him to heaven.

    #23 If it is not a joke, then he is welcome to re-settle at Siliguri as he wanted to.

  25. JTM said

    Whether you call it bakwas or whatver, the reflections are extremely passionate in nature, and no amount of tactics or snubbing will quell them. So might as well take it seriously.

  26. layman said

    @dhobirub #11

    Precisely, the Nepalese of the Hills are communal, jealous and forthright showy
    ……………………………………………………

    Yeah right. We may not be that rich, but we enjoy our lives, dress well, we are polite but do not hesitate to break noses to bleed if need be.
    What are you?

    Save money for what? There is a quote from a famous Hindi movie: “bangali ki phata huwa cchappal”

    That explains a lot, doesn’t it go sue the director Priyadarshan for that. Greedy lots, running after ‘bhat’ all the time. Look at your face, puffy cheek as if all the starch of ‘bhat’ has eventually landed their.
    Do not have dress sense; do not know how to enjoy life, when did you buy a jean last time?

    Due whatever you say, we may be ‘spoilt’ or ‘foreigner’ or whatever you say, but we ‘enjoy life’. That’s what matters at the end of the day, when you have to leave everything and go up naked. Does it make sense?

  27. JTM said

    Dhobirub is not Bangali but T………

  28. Phoenix Within said

    Dear Rahul,

    You have quoted Rabindranath in one of your passionate tirades against the Bengalese. I cannot help but remind you of another poem by him.

    “Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high
    Where knowledge is free
    Where the world has not been broken up into fragments
    By narrow domestic walls
    Where words come out from the depth of truth
    Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection
    Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way
    Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit
    Where the mind is led forward by thee
    Into ever-widening thought and action
    Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake ”

    Rabindranath Tagore

    That is all. You are intelligent enough to understand the rest.

  29. Rajneesh said

    @17 ..funny …ends in “Hai Hind”
    @26,27….somebody has been re-named –Dhobi rub.:)

  30. indian said

    …into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake ”
    yeah we know that poem..so we have woken up..jai gorkha jai gorkhaland..

  31. Laaaaaaaaa said

    I love this one…. so much I am sharing this again… this is from The Telegraph… goes on to show how bad it can get…. imagine we live in the heart of this mess… proving the fact that… the lotus does bloom in the heart of the mud [hilo mai kamal fulchha]

    “In fact, the sectarianism, chauvinism, groupism, or, would you rather that it is called ‘solidarity’ of Bengalees is so notorious that even you will find it difficult to refute it. In your own trade of journalism, see how one of them brings tens. Be it the Times of India, the Hindustan Times or Daily News and Analysis, you can’t escape the bunch of Bengalees, always increasing in numbers. If they are weeded out (as, I am sure you know, one extremely renowned Mumbai-based daily had to do) from writing, they will get in as photographers. One will bring the other. Then, there will be book reviews of the Bengalees by the Bengalees for the Bengalees. And the Bong photographer will make sure that his page-3 snaps have at least a couple of Bongs. The Bong sub-editor (or whoever does such things) will make sure that they are printed, as prominently as possible. It is an open collaborative chauvinistic game that all of you play.”

  32. rahul said

    DADA WHY LOOK THE POSITIVE ASPECT OF BENGALI SO YOU CITED THIS POEM BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT NEGATIVE ASPECT LET US DISCUSS ABOUT NEGATIVE ASPECTS

  33. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    1st find out your own negetive quality rather than finding out of others.Do you think yourself a mahatma?? or you think your whole community is param-atma??

  34. MMM said

    A very cheap article… hopeless!

  35. Phoenix Within said

    32. I thought you needed reminding there are positive and negative sides in each and every community. Discussing only the negative aspects reveals your own negativity… I would expect better things from u than that.

  36. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    Rahul nijer negetive quality ta aage thik kor tarpor discussion ee bosbi,

    gaaye na maane aapni morol.

  37. rahul said

    Lord Macaulay was being the archetypal suspicious and supercilious imperialist when he described the Bengali as “effete, effeminate, vaporous, swooning” and “of feeble constitution”.

  38. Sanity said

    There was a joke on one of the South Indian communities but it fits our friends here very well too.

    Why did the Bengali cross the road?
    To join the union on the other side.

  39. rahul said

    these bangladeshis entering illegally by local help are claiming themselves to be indian? very funny?

  40. rahul said

    DADA WE GORKHALIS ALWAYS TREAT YOU AS GOD IN DARJEELING BUT YOU BENGALIS TREAT US LIKE A DOG IN CALCUTTA OR IN ANY BENGALI-INFESTED AREAS? I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE THIS

  41. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    38.

    and you have learnt it from us and doing all dharna/strikes. bah, we are trying to come out from all these and you are trying to adapt these, wah kya baat.

    Rahul how jonny gorkha is described??

  42. rahul said

    WE ARE NEITHER MAHATMA OR PARATMA, WE JUST WANT TO VENT OUR GRIEVANCES and WHY WE WANT GORKHALAND?

  43. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    40.

    I will never accept your fault allegation. You are not animal that we will treat you as dog?? are you sick rahul??

  44. rahul said

    AS IF YOU ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN WORLD WHO HAVE DONE DHARNA IN THE WORLD? VERY FUNNY, AND WE ONLY READ NEWS OF BENGAL? VERY FUNNY? THESE STRIKES ARE STARTED BY MAHATMA NOT YOU PEOPLE, READ HISTORY YOU MORONS

  45. Sanity said

    The best way to end all enmity between the Gorkhas and the Bengalis is to create a Gorkhaland. Then, every man for himself. But if Bengal tries to hold on to Darjeeling, the situation will get only worse.

  46. rahul said

    DADA I AM VICTIM, YOU PEOPLE TAGGED ME AS “NEPALI, NEPALI” AND MADE A FUN OF ME, EVEN GIRLS INVOLVED, AND WHEN REPROTED TO PARENTS THEY SAY “BACHA TO” JUST IMAGINE I WAS HARDLY 9 YEARS OF AGE, WHAT WAS MY FEELING? WHO WAS SPEWING HATRED? WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IF YOU WERE ME? AND THERE MAY BE GOOD PEOPLE TOO, BUT I HAVE NOT FOUND YET TILL IN MY 30 YEARS OF AGE, NOT A SINGLE ONE WITH GOOD HEART WHO RESPECT GORKHALIS..

    IN OFFICE they PULLED MY LEG BEING YOU PEOPLE’S BOSS AND BEING MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU PEOPLE, FUTHERMORE, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW TAGS US “NONGRA AND UNCULTURED” WHEN I AM BETTER OVER HIM IN ANY INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSIONS.

  47. Phoenix Within said

    @Please refer to my comment @35. I have nothing more to add.

  48. rahul said

    DONT TAKE GORKHALIS AS DUMB ASS AND IGNORANT OF EVERYTHING, WE CAN EXPRESS OUR VIEWS TOO,

  49. Sanity said

    #17
    We need much better English than that to believe it to posted by Patley.

  50. rahul said

    OUR NEGATIVITY IS THAT WE ARE CHINKY EYED, WE DO NOT LOOK BEAUTIFUL LIKE YOU PEOPLE, NO NICE HAIR, NO BIG EYES, OUR GIRLS ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL LIKE GIRLS OF YOUR COMMUNITY, WE ARE SHORT, WE ARE IGNORANT, WE TOLERATE WHATEVER IS PUT ON US, THESE ARE THE ONLY NEGATIVITY OF OURS,WE NEVER PROTEST OF ANY INJUSTICE, THESE ARE OUR NEGATIVITY.

  51. rahul said

    BECAUSE IT IS THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF US, WHICH IS A LAUGHING STOCK FOR YOU PEOPLE AS IF WE ARE ANIMALS NOT HUMAN BEINGS..

  52. Sanity said

    Can some of my Bengali friends here explain what was Pranab M. talking about in the Lok Sabha today? The entire house went silent because they couldn’t understand what he was saying!

  53. rahul said

    DONT BE DUMB ASS, DON’T CRITICIZE ABOUT SOMEBODY’S ATTIRE, IF YOU HAVE GUTS DISCUSS ABOUT MORE MUNDANE ISSUES..

  54. patleybaskounpad said

    since i am for the past so many days (as angelina and JTM) would know been really tripping on Hindi song lyrics…the only two lines that i have for #17 is:

  55. rahul said

    SO GUYS WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS, PROBLEMS FROM BOTH SIDES ARE HEARD:

  56. patleybaskounpad said

    sorry for the suspense..
    “billi ke khaal hai
    cheetah ke chaal hai”…..

  57. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    Brother in law???

    by the way may be your brother in law is communal, not eveyone is like that. dont you think some of you are too communal?? and this communalism is very dangerous deases when I see any communal post against my community I too become a communal animal. Hence better we stop pulling legs each others discussing on negeive issue. And one thing I should tell you rahul it doesn’t matter who looks how but it’s matter how are u as a human beings, always better to see my negetivity rather than pointing out to others.

    Sanity we dont have much time to see what’s going on in lokshava, you see if u have time and enjoy. And ask pranab da if you dont understand him if u have phn no and if he has time to talk to u.

  58. rahul said

    Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    Your comment will surely stop spewing hatred in this blog, ya we both have negatives but we gorkhas are good at heart, we always treated bengalis like good, we may be “uncultured and uneducated” but we have good heart..

  59. JTM said

    You have been listening to Hindi film songs? It appears you have been picking up chawanni numbers from some shady gali.

  60. Siliguri-dooars-tarai said

    Again you cant say all are good at heart as a whole community, it depends on persson to person.

  61. Darlagyomanchey said

    #56 let me finish the song——”Wah kya maal hai”. Afterall it is a filmi song.

  62. layman said

    Why are we all commenting on 1 year old article?

    My guess is nowadays we don’t care whether it is one year old or 10 years old or just an advertisement or photograph or joke; we only care what another blogger wrote for us just below ‘that’.

    haha..is this what is called blogging? ;)

  63. patleybaskounpad said

    #61
    doesn’t rhyme..though you can shine in some much needed reflected glory…

  64. patleybaskounpad said

    #59
    the lyrics are from a movie called YUVRAAJ with music by Rehman..you may be perhaps better acquainted with ‘chawanni’ aspect of the song…

  65. rahul said

    but most of us are..

  66. rahul said

    we gorkhas are not communal, there is no report of we treating bengalees rudely, we may be uneducated, uncultured, poor but we are rich at heart,

  67. rahul said

    most of gorkhalees are good at heart, but bengalees most of them are verbose

  68. rahul said

    DADA I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS AGITATION IS LINGERING BECAUSE OUR LEADERS ARE BEING BRIBED OR IT COULD BE THAT THEY ARE TOO INSUFFICIENT? WHAT IS YOUR VIEW? EVEN HILL COUNCIL HAS NOT BROUGHT SEA CHANGE IN DARJEELING, WHY HONEST, EDUCATED PEOPLE WHO CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM ARE NOT BECOMING LEADER?

  69. layman said

    who is dada here BTW? ;)

  70. layman said

    layman dada? Nop, doesnt sound good.

    sanity dada? nop, didnt rhyme.

    patleybashkounpad dada? Nop.

    Phoenix dada? ;)

    darlagyo manche dada? ummm

    mmm dada? *&%

    who is dada? :)

  71. RAJA said

    Rahul,

    Most of the educated people dont like politcs and life has become so challenging that you have no time to go into much of it.

  72. layman said

    yeah…..GOOOOOOOOOOT IT !!

    Raja dada. Perfect!!

  73. RAJA said

    I think that’s (dada) for SDT …. SDT dada

  74. RAJA said

    yes … you are really a layman … perfect name

  75. layman said

    I know. I never lie even in my name, like ummmmmmm RAJA.

    jun goru ko singh cchaina tyaskai naam thikhey ;)

  76. JTM said

    @64
    Chawannis dont exist anymore. Could’nt catch the catch, huh?

  77. RAJA said

    chawannis dont exist anymore?? why ??

  78. rahul said

    all who are against gorkhalis are dada

  79. layman said

    78#

    you sound so innocent.

  80. Rajneesh said

    I remember in my childhood days there was 2 paisa, 5 paisa,10 p, 20p and so on. Have they stopped chwaniis nowadays what about athanniis?

  81. Phoenix Within said

    Rahul,
    Objection to your comment @50. Nepali girls are very beautiful with their gleaming hair and perfect skin , although I must say that beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I have a bhabi who is nepali…

  82. JTM said

    All women are beautiful till the men find them intellectually and spiritedly challenging.

  83. rahul said

    dada join “say no to gorkhaland” and see how many abusive languages being used to abuse gorkhalis, even they are saying “dog” to us..

  84. rahul said

    join “say no to gorkhaland” in orkut and talk to them they are using foul language in orkut against gorkhalis, subhajay..

  85. rahul said

    join “say no to gorkhaland” in orkut and talk to them they are using foul language in orkut against gorkhalis, subhajay (bengali fanatic).

  86. rahul said

    join “say no to gorkhaland” in orkut and talk to them they are using foul language in orkut against gorkhalis, subhajay (bengali fanatic).please talk to them and save us

  87. rahul said

    everybody knows about the mentality of bengalis (from east to west and north to south), i do not have to say any more,

  88. JTM said

    Just now Mamata wants govt to implement Art 355 to stop political violence on her Trinamul Congress party workers. The same was used with regard to communal violence in Kandhamal, Orissa and the attacks on churches in Kerala.

  89. Phoenix Within said

    @86. Tell Subhajay to come to beacon, and then we shall see…

  90. Phoenix Within said

    @88.
    That is something we certainly don’t want here.

  91. JTM said

    sure, but a lot of stuff has been learnt from Kolkata, WB and being practiced in Darj.

  92. Phoenix Within said

    @91. and being taken to a new level of perfection…

  93. rahul said

    why bengalis are only shouting against gorkhaland, why not other caste of west bengal?, what does it signify?

    one of bengali guys, wrote in orkut, “say no to gorkhaland” that GL movement is anti-bengali instead of anti-indian, what does it signify?

    please clarify, I want comments with logical reasoning.

  94. rahul said

    why leanring from kolkata is bothering u? what if I say yes, this shows you do not have fellow feelings..

  95. Phoenix Within said

    @ Rahul

    The Bengal Government gave up on the Darjeeling hills long ago with the formation of DGHC. They have never interfered in the internal matters of Darjeeling ever since. I remember a comment by Kshiti Goswami, where he wanted something to be done about the bad roads and spoke to SG about it but he was told off by SG as trying to interfere in the internal matters of Darjeeling. A major drinking water project by the WB Govt. also had to wait for SG’s approval for a long time before being implemented. It is probably finally becoming operational next year and will help to reduce the water crisis in the hills. I don’t think the Bengal Govt. is averse to a settlement to resolve the stalemate. It also has to be a settlement acceptable to all communities in the hills.

    The SDT area is however another matter….

    #. I opened Orkut a few minutes ago (I am not a regular) and found this on the home page. I am pasting it here :

    “Today’s fortune: An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind”.

  96. rahul said

    yes we need learned people like you talk there, “say no to gorkhaland” because other gorkhalis are numb, dumb, or not intelligent enough to discuss. i fought alone you might have noticed..

  97. Phoenix Within said

    I will never talk in “Say no to Gorkhaland”. Beacon also happened for me only because of the indefinite strikes.. and i had nothing else to do… and was desperate for news on Darj… and now i find myself getting addicted to it. I am not a regular blogger.

  98. rahul said

    but they are abusing gorkhalis read the comment of nabarun and subhajay in say no to gorkhaland and gorkhaland discussion form, please give them reply, you only can, they are giving logic of us being “%%holes”

  99. rahul said

    but they are abusing gorkhalis read the comment of nabarun and subhajay in say “no to gorkhaland and gorkhaland discussion forum in orkut”, please give them reply, you only can, they are giving logic of us being “%%holes”

  100. rahul said

    but they are abusing gorkhalis read the comment of nabarun and subhajay in orkut“no to gorkhaland and gorkhaland discussion forum in orkut”, please give them adequate reply, only u can, they are giving logic of us being “%%holes” and abusing us in a very subtle way and polite way, which fools (who cannot reply) cannot understand, so I want you to intervene..there or any MAN who can REPLY them,,I have fought a lot.

  101. JTM said

    Ha! Losing the fighting in Orkut? Send PPradhan there. I am sure he will prove to be MAN enough to win. His idea of being a man is to insult women. no wonder there is such a high incidence of domestic violence in HIS SIDE OF THE WORLD where women being modest (???????????????) is considered to be an ornament. and men canbe immodest rascals.

  102. patleybaskounpad said

    with all the name calling going on in this blog, my humble submission is that everyone seeking to comment here should add this title to their ‘most essential’ reading list:

    Uglier Than a Monkey’s Armpit: Untranslatable Insults, Put-downs and Curses from Around the World
    by Dr. Robert Vanderplank

    a review has this to say about this book:
    ‘…hugely entertaining book that will enable you to put down your rivals and enemies with creative insults known to man’….

    juicy…

  103. rahul said

    that is seperate issue dada whom to send, why diverting, who gave them right to demean us? if we revert back in a same way, what you would do, see my comments in orkut, you will understand with ample examples..

  104. rahul said

    @no wonder there is such a high incidence of domestic violence in HIS SIDE OF THE WORLD where women being modest (???????????????) is considered to be an ornament. and men canbe immodest rascals.

    CAN YOU GIVE ME THE SOURCE? MAKING SUCH COMMENT WITHOUT ANY SOURCE IS VERY EASY, EVEN I CAN MAKE THOUSAND COMMENT

    DO YOU KNOW ADULTERY IN KOLKATA IS HIGHEST WHY? WHY MARRIED WOMEN IN KOLKATA IS HIGHEST IN INDIA TO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN BEING UNSATISFIED? ANY IDEA? WHY SEX TRADE IS HIGHEST IN INDIA IN KOLKATA, I HOPE YOU ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND.

  105. JTM said

    Please have this dialogue with PPradhan who insults women by saying that IN HIS SIDE women are ornamented with modesty. Have fun! Make 1000 comments with each other abt women. Make sure you dont quarrel abt women of the same side thinking you are talking abt women of another side.

  106. rahul said

    DADA WHY BENGALIS (?) ONLY (MOSTLY FROM SILIGURI) AND BANGLADESHI (WHO CAME LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY) ARE PROTESTING AGAINST GORKHALAND?

  107. I Love My India said

    Not only bengalis, twenty two lacs among thrity lacs population consisits in so called proporsed GL is aginast GL (Including adivasi etc etc ).

  108. rahul said

    Are they invisible species? only bengalees are visible everywhere protesting,

  109. Phoenix Within said

    @108.
    Well, to be fair I have seen some protests at beacononline itself coming from Lepchas (unless they too are Bengalis writing under pseudonames ) about ‘Gorkaland’. I understand that they would rather prefer ‘Darjeeling’. And so would I.

  110. rahul said

    @108.

    “I understand that they would rather prefer ‘Darjeeling’. And so would I”, why you prefer “darjeeling” considering gorkhali sentiment?

  111. rahul said

    this debate will never end, let your work (in the field) prove that you are right and let our work prove (in the field)that we are right, instead of fighting over here.We are all Indians after all, we have to stay together here

  112. sunny said

    dada why educated people of darjeeling not coming forward? does it mean they do not want gorkhaland?

  113. sunny said

    Bandhs in Bengal provoke derisive laughter in the rest of the country. It is a tool which has been flogged to flippancy by our political animals and devoured with lazy hunger by a state which has continuously slipped steadily in its work culture.

  114. PJ said

    113 amamamama??? :D

  115. rahul said

    Dear Sir

    My sister who was married 2 years ago has one baby boy. She is not allowed to cut her hair, wear jeans, bleach her face, wear kajal, wear bindi, her husband and her family never share anything with her, never even told her that we called her up, by her husband and he rebuked her left and right in a very loud rude manner in the nursing home when my nephew was just 1 day old, in front of my mother (when we came to know) when she wore bindi and and even rebuked my mother for interfering and both sobbed profusely but he was unperturbed by that incident and he does not allow us to talk to her (like he says will let her talk but fail his promises) and she is not allowed to talk to us in spite of many requests, their parents even disconnected phone connection when they were out of calcutta so that my sister cannot contact us,fed my sister very poorly during pregnancy, no one talks to her properly because she loves her mother a lot, which is the cause of their anger and she does not want to be kept chained, also we gave some books on Art of Living which he returned back to us saying rudely not to give her, once or twice when he used to bring her to our home before pregnancy, he did not talk to us properly, we are not able to know my sister’s consent, as she is not allowed to come to our house in spite of several requests. Even when my mother was very ill, she had to touch her husband’s feet to make a call to us but she did not allow or when we call them (sister’s husband and his parents) they disconnect the phone, or whenever we call them they either say she is feeding her child or she is taking bath or eating even at 6 pm or 7 pm and in spite of several requests from us and our relatives, they are not allowing her to come to our house even after pregnancy as they promised during marriage and openly says no without any reason or when we go there they behave in such a way that we did a great mistake by going there and openly insults us like opening door very late, not talking to us properly, insults us in front of sister, and also if my sister protests she is said to be abused by her husband according to the next door neighbors because even they can hear his loud voice while rebuking my sister and when I lost my temper when as he was not allowing us to see their baby, he told us not to come again straightway and told my mother who is totally innocent to take her daughter if they see her again, which clearly speaks itself about their intention and also he told many cooked-up stories about my character to my relatives by phone as I talked with their neighbor about his behavior and if we protest in anyway he rebukes my sister instead of us. Also he repeatedly tells us that he has many contacts as he is a TV newsreader making us fearful to get any legal aid.

    so my question is, is this is a human right issue or we should remain silent or take legal step?What could be the solution?

  116. rahul said

    the reason they want gorkhaland is because bengal has deprived them of everything, they laugh at gorkhali people, they say gorkhalis foreigner, they abuse us when we go to work in kolkata, bengali make fun of us saying, kancha kancha, which is evident from their tone while calling,it is their ethnic dominance mentality which is why they are not allowing, not india being divided, while talking to many of them it is quite evident,

  117. rahul said

    “The main reason for the demand for a separate state is the assertion of an Indian identity for the Gorkhas. Such an identity cannot be bestowed by any locally envisaged administrative systems. These are meant only for economic upliftment and social development.”

    But then that rule must be applied to all minority communities throughout India. For example lets take a look at West Bengal after applying this rule –
    West Bengal can be broken up into 6 parts – Darjeeling, Cooch Bihar, Kamtapur, Santhal dominated areas, Murshidabad (for Muslims) and proper West Bengal.
    Applying this rule we get some 90-100 states in India, and I wonder how possibly India could survive then.

  118. rahul said

    “The main reason for the demand for a separate state is the assertion of an Indian identity for the Gorkhas. Such an identity cannot be bestowed by any locally envisaged administrative systems. These are meant only for economic upliftment and social development.”

    But then that rule must be applied to all minority communities throughout India. For example lets take a look at West Bengal after applying this rule –
    West Bengal can be broken up into 6 parts – Darjeeling, Cooch Bihar, Kamtapur, Santhal dominated areas, Murshidabad (for Muslims) and proper West Bengal.
    Applying this rule we get some 90-100 states in India, and I wonder how possibly India could survive then. NO ANSWER IS POSSIBLE TO THIS

  119. Sanity said

    “Applying this rule we get some 90-100 states in India, and I wonder how possibly India could survive then.”

    Are we going to kill the citizens to save the nation? What comes first – the citizens or the nation? If the citizens are not happy, does the existence of the nation have any meaning? India (the land, not the country) had around 500 princely states before the British took over. So where is the danger of it not surviving if there are 100 states?

  120. rahul said

    The Gorkhaland issue first got prominence under the leadership of Subhas Ghising of the GNLF. The man lead a rather bloody struggle to achieve Gorkhaland, but then abandoned the struggle after the formation of the Darjeeling Hill Council. He got the power he so terribly wanted (evidently) and then ruled like a tyrant for 20 years. He had the power and the money, now why should he go on bothering on issues like development? And then steps into the scene the young and ambitious Bimal Gurung. He takes the cue from Guru Ghising and starts his morning walk following his footsteps. He forms his own party, proclaims his aim to achieve Gorkhaland and helps BJP win the Darjeeling LS seat. And if Gurung achieves Gorkhaland then after a period of time there will be yet another guy who will revolt against Gurung and form yet another party and then demand independence. The cycle will continue as history repeats itself. My argument is that if Bimal Gurung really cares about development (as he professes in his huge rallies) then he can very easily do so in the present framework. Formation of a whole new state will do little in such a situation, unless of course, Gurung wants a personal fiefdom. Ghising had his DGHC, Gurung wants his own state. Rest of the story will be similar I guess – a single party state, a single leader, concentration of all the resources and power in one hand leading to – corruption and tyranny. Thinking rationally, Gurung doesn’t even have an premise for his demands. The West Bengal Government doesn’t suppresses the people, nor their culture or traditions. For development DGHC is there. There is complete freedom and all the Gorkhas enjoy exactly the same rights as everybody else. And remember the more the number of governments, the more will be the common man taxed to elect and support the huge entourage of ministers (and deputy ministers, and bureaucrats, and cars, and buildings, and of course more corruption).And if they think that Gorkhaland is required to save their identity, its all fine.

  121. rahul said

    Bhutan Maoists aiding Gorkha stir?
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kolkata_/Bhutan_Maoists_aiding_Gorkha_stir/articleshow/4028499.cms

  122. rahul said

    Irrational, illogical & impractical
    Irrational – because in today’s India no state would be granted only on the basis on language and it shouldn’t be also as it will increase more regional hatred and a living example is the NE India and it means granting state to everybody who would demand state only on linguistic grounds. And more people of the demarcated Gorkhaland don’t want Gorkhaland. And it will be another state that cannot be economically feasible and has to depend on the Central Govt. Where people failed to run a simple counsil properly how can one expect that a state can be administered properly?

    Illogical – because there cannot be logic to form a new state that if some part of the population of a state is culturally/linguistically differ from the majority population of a state. There are no historical grounds as Darjeeling belonged to Sikkim once and kalimpong & Duars belonged to Bhutan. And overwhelmingly majority of the population of the area (Darjeeling, Jalpaiguri & Coachbihar District) are against creation of Gorkhaland.

  123. rahul said

    Impracticle because as per Article 3 of the Indian Contitution:
    Formation of new States and alteration of areas, boundaries or names of existing States
    Parliament may by law:
    1. Form a new State by separation of territory from any State or by uniting two or more States or parts of States or by uniting any territory to a part of any State
    2. Increase the area of any State
    3. Diminish the area of any State
    4. Alter the boundaries of any State
    5. Alter the name of any State [Provided that no Bill for the purpose shall be introduced in either House of Parliament except on the recommendation of the President and unless, where the proposal contained in the Bill affects the area, boundaries or name of any of the States, the Bill has been referred by the President to the Legislature of that State for expressing its views thereon within such period as may be specified in the reference or within such further period as the President may allow and the period so specified or allowed has expired.]

    But there is no possibility at all that either Congress or Trinimool or Leftist parties recommending the President to float such Bill in the Parliament. And BJP to form the state government in West Bengal is not possible and congress won’t axe its own feet in West Bengal going against the will majority of people.

  124. RAJA said

    115.

    very sad …. it touched my heart …. u can file a case against culprit … or do onething rahul …give few bucks to local boss/parar ostaad and tell them to teach a lession to your sister’s husband …. I hope it will work …. as this kind of people (like yor sister’s husband) lion inside their own home and pussy cat at outside.

  125. RAJA said

    116.

    Only one way I can see rahul … gana dholai to your sister’s husband …. no need to go to court as it will take long long time settle the case … give few bucks to local bosses, they will teach him (your sister’s husband) how to behave with wife…. utilise my words …

  126. Phoenix Within said

    Arun, you are right.

    Raja is Dada / Mithun / MG !

    :D

  127. sunny said

    “India (the land, not the country) had around 500 princely states before the British took over. So where is the danger of it not surviving if there are 100 states?”

    THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUTSIDERS TOO ADVANTAGE OF THESE DECENTRALIZATION OF POWER IN THE PAST.

  128. sunny said

    @SANITY

    “India (the land, not the country) had around 500 princely states before the British took over. So where is the danger of it not surviving if there are 100 states?”

    THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUTSIDERS (SOURCE: HISTORY OF INDIA) TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THESE DECENTRALIZATION OF POWER IN THE PAST.

  129. sunny said

    “give few bucks to local bosses, they will teach him (your sister’s husband) how to behave with wife…. utilise my words …”

    KOP TA TO BONER UPOR ASBE DADA

  130. I Love My India said

    There is no factors for so called GL. It is a movment to accomodate further illegal mighrants from Nepal and Bhupalis. THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER PARASTIES . WE HAVE ENOUGH OF PARASITES (NEPAL, SIKKIM, DARJEELING HILLS ETC).

  131. sunny said

    bengalis are parasites, they support illegal intrusion of bangaladeshis to spread terrorism and disease subtly unlike gorkhalis.

  132. I Love My India said

    Every body knows the GK level of you. Your words proof of it.

  133. sunny said

    even your GK is too good,

  134. rahulmuji said

    • My sister who was married 2 years ago has one baby boy. She is not allowed to cut her hair, wear kajal, cut her hair or nail, wear bindi, her husband and her family never share anything with her, never even told her that we called her up, by her husband and he rebuked her left and right in a very loud rude manner in the nursing home when my nephew was just 1 day old, in front of my mother (when we came to know) when she wore bindi and and even rebuked my mother for interfering and both sobbed profusely but he was unperturbed by that incident and he does not allow us to talk to her (like he says will let her talk but fail his promises) and she is not allowed to talk to us in spite of many requests, their parents even disconnected phone connection when they were out of calcutta so that my sister cannot contact us,fed my sister very poorly during pregnancy, no one talks to her properly because she loves her mother a lot, which is the cause of their anger and she does not want to be kept chained, also we gave some books on Art of Living which he returned back to us saying rudely not to give her, once or twice when he used to bring her to our home before pregnancy, he did not talk to us properly, we are not able to know my sister’s consent, as she is not allowed to come to our house in spite of several requests. Even when my mother was very ill, she had to touch her husband’s feet to make a call to us but she did not allow or when we call them (sister’s husband and his parents) they disconnect the phone, or whenever we call them they either say she is feeding her child or she is taking bath or eating even at 6 pm or 7 pm and in spite of several requests from us and our relatives, they are not allowing her to come to our house even after pregnancy as they promised during marriage and openly says no without any reason or when we go there they behave in such a way that we did a great mistake by going there and openly insults us like opening door very late, not talking to us properly, insults us in front of sister, and also if my sister protests she is said to be abused by her husband according to the next door neighbors because even they can hear his loud voice while rebuking my sister and when I lost my temper when as he was not allowing us to even turn their baby’s face towards me , he told us not to come again straightway and told my mother who is totally innocent to take her daughter if they see her again, and when she calls us she has to support her in-laws otherwise she is not allowed to talk to us, which we suspect as she last met told us she could not stay with them, which clearly speaks itself about their intention and also he told many cooked-up stories about my character to my relatives by phone as I talked with their neighbor about his behavior and if we protest in anyway he rebukes my sister instead of us. He insults his wife and puts her down, prevents her from going to work or school, and locks her at room 24×7, stops you from seeing family members (mother and brother) and friends, tries to control how you spend money, where you go or what you wear, acts jealous or possessive or constantly accuses you of being unfaithful, threatens you with violence or a weapon cannot be ruled out, blames you for his or her violent behavior or tells you that you deserve it. Also he repeatedly tells us that he has many contacts as he is a TV newsreader of kolkata govt. news channel and works in rupkala kendra making us fearful to get any legal aid as they told clearly whatever is done, for that my sister has to pay for it. we are suicidal, he is a very good looking newsreader of DD bangla (INDRANIL GHOSH). Now my sister after many crying episodes to let her come to home, has surrendered to the situation, and remains nonchalant when asked about her taking legal help and also they did not my sister to call us during pujas and my mother is always crying, depressed, and suffering from heart ailment for not hearing and seeing and thinking about her being locked at the room 24×7, feeling suicidal.

    so my question is, is this is a human right issue or we should remain silent or take legal step?What could be the solution?

  135. RAJA said

    Dont know why u r posting this here … better you contact a good advocate ASAP to save your sister rather than writing details of your sad story here.

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