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		<title>Comment on GL-numberplates in Darjeeling by gorkha</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorkha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are rt raja ,the adivasis of purulia should also demand their own place if they are treated stepmotherly in their own state.to aviod such uprisings,the govt should treat each and every community equally,no biased policies.Do u know how many Gorkhas manage to pass the UPSC OR WBCS papers?very few.now,do u know why?u might think its b'coz they aren't good enough in their studies,but you r wrong.its b'coz the examiners are all from the bengoli community.and they don't wan't a Gorkha to secure higher posts in govt jobs.they do this coz they fear that if a sizeable number of Gorkhas become  bureaucrats,then they will difinitely adress the poor condition of their fellow Gorkhas and underdevelopment of the Darjeeling region.And the Govt will be forced to take necessary steps accordingly,and thats something which the Govt.doesn't want.
                       raja it seems you are educated but i wonder y you r making silly comments.how can you ask for a seperate state in other nations being an Indian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are rt raja ,the adivasis of purulia should also demand their own place if they are treated stepmotherly in their own state.to aviod such uprisings,the govt should treat each and every community equally,no biased policies.Do u know how many Gorkhas manage to pass the UPSC OR WBCS papers?very few.now,do u know why?u might think its b&#8217;coz they aren&#8217;t good enough in their studies,but you r wrong.its b&#8217;coz the examiners are all from the bengoli community.and they don&#8217;t wan&#8217;t a Gorkha to secure higher posts in govt jobs.they do this coz they fear that if a sizeable number of Gorkhas become  bureaucrats,then they will difinitely adress the poor condition of their fellow Gorkhas and underdevelopment of the Darjeeling region.And the Govt will be forced to take necessary steps accordingly,and thats something which the Govt.doesn&#8217;t want.<br />
                       raja it seems you are educated but i wonder y you r making silly comments.how can you ask for a seperate state in other nations being an Indian?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trouble in Darjeeling as India&#8217;s Gorkha people campaign for new state by patley bas ko unpad</title>
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		<dc:creator>patley bas ko unpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the point is nobody is asking for a lepcha land , or bhutia land....or this and that land..so in that sense raja's fears are hypothetical and his argument borders on tautology..gorkhaland on the other hand is a very real and old demand...and popular support for it has only grown over the years...in fact as a journalist said it is ..'one of the oldest political demands in india'...also i would like to take raja down memory lane and ask him how many states india first had at independence and how their number grew over the years....and on what basis were these new states formed?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the point is nobody is asking for a lepcha land , or bhutia land&#8230;.or this and that land..so in that sense raja&#8217;s fears are hypothetical and his argument borders on tautology..gorkhaland on the other hand is a very real and old demand&#8230;and popular support for it has only grown over the years&#8230;in fact as a journalist said it is ..&#8217;one of the oldest political demands in india&#8217;&#8230;also i would like to take raja down memory lane and ask him how many states india first had at independence and how their number grew over the years&#8230;.and on what basis were these new states formed?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on GL-numberplates in Darjeeling by patley bas ko unpad</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/gl-numberplates-in-darjeeling/#comment-9927</link>
		<dc:creator>patley bas ko unpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well if the adibasis of purulia district demand a separate state so be it...anyway their demand will not be without precedents..Jharkhand was created along the lines of the same logic ...there is a constitutional provision to expand the federal structure of India..so to argue against the formation of newer states is unconstitutional...as for indians outside demanding separate state..every country has its own dynamics...countries such as trindad and tobago, fiji, mauritius where indians were taken as indentured labour centuries ago are, for example, different from the US where indian migration is a more recent phenemenon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if the adibasis of purulia district demand a separate state so be it&#8230;anyway their demand will not be without precedents..Jharkhand was created along the lines of the same logic &#8230;there is a constitutional provision to expand the federal structure of India..so to argue against the formation of newer states is unconstitutional&#8230;as for indians outside demanding separate state..every country has its own dynamics&#8230;countries such as trindad and tobago, fiji, mauritius where indians were taken as indentured labour centuries ago are, for example, different from the US where indian migration is a more recent phenemenon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should realize, revitalize and restrategize! by sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said patley bas ko unpad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said patley bas ko unpad!</p>
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		<title>Comment on GL-numberplates in Darjeeling by bangaaliis ka yumdoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>bangaaliis ka yumdoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raja tu darjeeling aaja, 
tujhe chakhaunga majja,
uske baad tu bangladesh bhaagja,
natra thujja milega Gorkha bro ka sajja, 
alikati ta lajja

RAJA @ the king without the crown .. don't put eyes on the queen of the hills or else.. as u r about 2 be thrown from this throne.. 


lungi taan, 
kha paan, 
bacha jaan, 
100 km/h ke speed mein bangladesh ka taraf haan!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raja tu darjeeling aaja,<br />
tujhe chakhaunga majja,<br />
uske baad tu bangladesh bhaagja,<br />
natra thujja milega Gorkha bro ka sajja,<br />
alikati ta lajja</p>
<p>RAJA @ the king without the crown .. don&#8217;t put eyes on the queen of the hills or else.. as u r about 2 be thrown from this throne.. </p>
<p>lungi taan,<br />
kha paan,<br />
bacha jaan,<br />
100 km/h ke speed mein bangladesh ka taraf haan!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should realize, revitalize and restrategize! by sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tatu u need to find a better way to entertain yourself ...for starters u could pick a better subject for discussion in 'shivmandir and silliguri area' if you still feel restless you can learn how to spell siliguri when you are done with that you can go change your name...that will keep you busy for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatu u need to find a better way to entertain yourself &#8230;for starters u could pick a better subject for discussion in &#8217;shivmandir and silliguri area&#8217; if you still feel restless you can learn how to spell siliguri when you are done with that you can go change your name&#8230;that will keep you busy for a while.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should realize, revitalize and restrategize! by patley bas ko unpad</title>
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		<dc:creator>patley bas ko unpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>relay you idiot...most hotels in darjeeling are either owned or leased out to the bengalis...lots of bengalis own properties in kalimpong( the only functioning movie hall for example is owned by a bengali lady), kurseong, darjeeling and elsewhere..just because you may have personally had some frustrating experiences doing business or owning property here ( given the level of IQ you display in your posts one is not surprised that things turned out that way)you cannot turn this forum into some kind of a channel to air personal grievences ...amd lastly , as usual you take the cake with your seven babies per family theory..so far i have heard this being used against the muslims by right wing fanatics... you only transpose a bit of their hate and illogic here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>relay you idiot&#8230;most hotels in darjeeling are either owned or leased out to the bengalis&#8230;lots of bengalis own properties in kalimpong( the only functioning movie hall for example is owned by a bengali lady), kurseong, darjeeling and elsewhere..just because you may have personally had some frustrating experiences doing business or owning property here ( given the level of IQ you display in your posts one is not surprised that things turned out that way)you cannot turn this forum into some kind of a channel to air personal grievences &#8230;amd lastly , as usual you take the cake with your seven babies per family theory..so far i have heard this being used against the muslims by right wing fanatics&#8230; you only transpose a bit of their hate and illogic here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trouble in Darjeeling as India&#8217;s Gorkha people campaign for new state by gorkha</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorkha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur comments are rt. mr raja but only half.ur right in saying that we should compete and secure our place among others regarding jobs and other things.but you tell me how many engeneering colleges,medical colleges and university does darjeeling have as a headquarter of the District?how many good schools(govt.)are thee in darjeeling?ofcourse there are private educational institutions but they are beyond the reach of most of the general public whose monthly income is hardly 4000 rupees.so,how can they afford higher as well as good education?i know u will argue saying if their income is insufficient to get higher and quality  education for their children,  its their fault,no?ok, then let me ask you one thing,where do u see the fault of  a person who has been working as an ad-hoc teacher for the past 20 yrs and his dream of getting his job made permanent still remains a dream?whose fault do u think is this?and where is the fault of the poor tea garden worker who,after a hard day's work,hardly gets repees 70 as a remuneration?and since you are a learned person,i am sure that you know, that more than half of the darjeeling population live in these tea gardens.so, under such circumstances,do you think a good percentage of the darjeeling population can afford quality education?not to mention the condition of the Govt.schools in West Bengal.my fren,the real Bengal is not in Kolkata,set out of the capital and you will come to know about real Bengal.

                  Yes, we are definitely treated as a second class citizens in India.Our fellwow Indians think that we are from Nepal and confuse between Indian Gorkhas and the ones migrated from Nepal.So,how does one feel when they say "no,you are speaking Nepali,you are from Nepal"though they are living in India for more than a centuary.To save this Identity crisis we need our own state within India.My fren,finding a good job with a heafty package merely won't solve this idetity crisis which every Indian Gorkha is facing.And i don't think we have to prove our worth to the National Govt since the Statue of Major Durga Mlla proudly stands in front of the Indian Prliament building.
                     What do mean to say "for how long"?The movement will remain non-violent unless Gorkhaland is achieved.Its the damned communist Govt of Bengal who tries to provoke us to do some violent things so that they can crush the movement in the name of maintaining law and order.But we won't push back.

             you must be aware of the siliguri episode where Gorkha Ex-servicemen were brutally tortured by the timid Bengal police.So,in oder to stop such incidents from occuring,GLP has been formed.Don't take it otherwise,they won't take any violent measures,just guide the people taking out processions.And if India recognises or, even worships Gandhiji as the Father of the Nation,than i'm sure the movement will not be stopped forcibly.But if the the people taking out peaceful procession are tortured by the police,than I regret being an Indian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur comments are rt. mr raja but only half.ur right in saying that we should compete and secure our place among others regarding jobs and other things.but you tell me how many engeneering colleges,medical colleges and university does darjeeling have as a headquarter of the District?how many good schools(govt.)are thee in darjeeling?ofcourse there are private educational institutions but they are beyond the reach of most of the general public whose monthly income is hardly 4000 rupees.so,how can they afford higher as well as good education?i know u will argue saying if their income is insufficient to get higher and quality  education for their children,  its their fault,no?ok, then let me ask you one thing,where do u see the fault of  a person who has been working as an ad-hoc teacher for the past 20 yrs and his dream of getting his job made permanent still remains a dream?whose fault do u think is this?and where is the fault of the poor tea garden worker who,after a hard day&#8217;s work,hardly gets repees 70 as a remuneration?and since you are a learned person,i am sure that you know, that more than half of the darjeeling population live in these tea gardens.so, under such circumstances,do you think a good percentage of the darjeeling population can afford quality education?not to mention the condition of the Govt.schools in West Bengal.my fren,the real Bengal is not in Kolkata,set out of the capital and you will come to know about real Bengal.</p>
<p>                  Yes, we are definitely treated as a second class citizens in India.Our fellwow Indians think that we are from Nepal and confuse between Indian Gorkhas and the ones migrated from Nepal.So,how does one feel when they say &#8220;no,you are speaking Nepali,you are from Nepal&#8221;though they are living in India for more than a centuary.To save this Identity crisis we need our own state within India.My fren,finding a good job with a heafty package merely won&#8217;t solve this idetity crisis which every Indian Gorkha is facing.And i don&#8217;t think we have to prove our worth to the National Govt since the Statue of Major Durga Mlla proudly stands in front of the Indian Prliament building.<br />
                     What do mean to say &#8220;for how long&#8221;?The movement will remain non-violent unless Gorkhaland is achieved.Its the damned communist Govt of Bengal who tries to provoke us to do some violent things so that they can crush the movement in the name of maintaining law and order.But we won&#8217;t push back.</p>
<p>             you must be aware of the siliguri episode where Gorkha Ex-servicemen were brutally tortured by the timid Bengal police.So,in oder to stop such incidents from occuring,GLP has been formed.Don&#8217;t take it otherwise,they won&#8217;t take any violent measures,just guide the people taking out processions.And if India recognises or, even worships Gandhiji as the Father of the Nation,than i&#8217;m sure the movement will not be stopped forcibly.But if the the people taking out peaceful procession are tortured by the police,than I regret being an Indian.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GL-numberplates in Darjeeling by RAJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who has developed?? you gorkha?? are you mad?? darjeeing had established by british Govt....and developed by Bengal Govt. &#38; Govt. of India....You people have developed it means?? have you bought money from nepal to developed darjeeling???

You are so poor that you dont even know bengal province has been divided during our indipendence in 1947...but I dont know whether nepal was a part India in past....

Com'on you peoples have come here,working here ...that goods...but separation from bengal?? never we wont accept....There are lots of Indian living at outside....they are not going to ask any state there....

dont feel yourself a 2nd class citizen...come up with your calibre and fight others with your brain ....cause you peoples are enough educated....if you peoples are saying that you are not getting treatment like a stepmother then what Adibasis of Purulia district will say??

Then everyone will demand for their statehood on their ethnic criterion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who has developed?? you gorkha?? are you mad?? darjeeing had established by british Govt&#8230;.and developed by Bengal Govt. &amp; Govt. of India&#8230;.You people have developed it means?? have you bought money from nepal to developed darjeeling???</p>
<p>You are so poor that you dont even know bengal province has been divided during our indipendence in 1947&#8230;but I dont know whether nepal was a part India in past&#8230;.</p>
<p>Com&#8217;on you peoples have come here,working here &#8230;that goods&#8230;but separation from bengal?? never we wont accept&#8230;.There are lots of Indian living at outside&#8230;.they are not going to ask any state there&#8230;.</p>
<p>dont feel yourself a 2nd class citizen&#8230;come up with your calibre and fight others with your brain &#8230;.cause you peoples are enough educated&#8230;.if you peoples are saying that you are not getting treatment like a stepmother then what Adibasis of Purulia district will say??</p>
<p>Then everyone will demand for their statehood on their ethnic criterion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should realize, revitalize and restrategize! by sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Delhiwala I do not know if Mr. Lepcha is a subject of sikkim or not, but I do know that the lepchas were not whining about some ppl from the hills being disnintegrated and communal, when they were fighting for the dzongu cause can u please remind me  how many people from the hills apart from the lepchas were supporting the dzongu cause??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Delhiwala I do not know if Mr. Lepcha is a subject of sikkim or not, but I do know that the lepchas were not whining about some ppl from the hills being disnintegrated and communal, when they were fighting for the dzongu cause can u please remind me  how many people from the hills apart from the lepchas were supporting the dzongu cause??</p>
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