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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by JTM</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122176</link>
		<dc:creator>JTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KFC has been a flop in India. The &#039;buro&#039; did not catch on neither did the fried chicken wings. Pakhetas,khuttas of chicken are considered the discarded parts generally picked by the &#039;poor&#039; to make a broth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KFC has been a flop in India. The &#8216;buro&#8217; did not catch on neither did the fried chicken wings. Pakhetas,khuttas of chicken are considered the discarded parts generally picked by the &#8216;poor&#8217; to make a broth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by P Pradhan</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122159</link>
		<dc:creator>P Pradhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc.
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And obviously, KFC wouldn&#039;t be targeting folks who eat at &quot;Subba&#039;s&quot; or spend Rs. 35 for a &quot;bhar pet&quot;, or would they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc.<br />
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<p>And obviously, KFC wouldn&#8217;t be targeting folks who eat at &#8220;Subba&#8217;s&#8221; or spend Rs. 35 for a &#8220;bhar pet&#8221;, or would they?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by P Pradhan</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122157</link>
		<dc:creator>P Pradhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I eat at Subba’s [near upper Club Side Darjeeling]
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I am talking about &#039;Asia Kitchen&#039;, &#039;Golden Dragon&quot;....where &quot;pet bhari bhari khako&quot; would come to about 350-400.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I eat at Subba’s [near upper Club Side Darjeeling]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I am talking about &#8216;Asia Kitchen&#8217;, &#8216;Golden Dragon&#8221;&#8230;.where &#8220;pet bhari bhari khako&#8221; would come to about 350-400.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by Tittiri</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122155</link>
		<dc:creator>Tittiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ P Pradhan

&quot;If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc. (my opinion, not backed by any data or management philosophies)…yes KFC and esp Mcdee would be cheaper compared to ‘conventional’ food.&quot;
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Some imagination you got Mr. Pradhan

1 Plate Sabjee bhat- Rs 20 [IC]
1 Plate Chicken/Mutton/Fish - Rs 30 [IC]
1 Plate salad/Papad - Rs 10 [IC]

Total... Bhudee Futin jel khako.... Rs 60... 

1 KFC burger - Rs 80 [IC]
1 McDonalds burger - Rs 55 [IC]
1 KFC full meal [includes 1 burger/sandwhich, one small bag of potatoes fries, one coleslaw, one pepsi/coke] - Rs 130 to 180.

SO KFC and McDonalds are cheaper then conventional food hai??? Chakkai parnu... 

Moreover.. I eat at Subba&#039;s [near upper Club Side Darjeeling]... bhar pet SUngur ko masu... kaalo daal and bhat costs me Rs. 35... 

May be in Ktm conventional food is costlier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ P Pradhan</p>
<p>&#8220;If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc. (my opinion, not backed by any data or management philosophies)…yes KFC and esp Mcdee would be cheaper compared to ‘conventional’ food.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Some imagination you got Mr. Pradhan</p>
<p>1 Plate Sabjee bhat- Rs 20 [IC]<br />
1 Plate Chicken/Mutton/Fish &#8211; Rs 30 [IC]<br />
1 Plate salad/Papad &#8211; Rs 10 [IC]</p>
<p>Total&#8230; Bhudee Futin jel khako&#8230;. Rs 60&#8230; </p>
<p>1 KFC burger &#8211; Rs 80 [IC]<br />
1 McDonalds burger &#8211; Rs 55 [IC]<br />
1 KFC full meal [includes 1 burger/sandwhich, one small bag of potatoes fries, one coleslaw, one pepsi/coke] &#8211; Rs 130 to 180.</p>
<p>SO KFC and McDonalds are cheaper then conventional food hai??? Chakkai parnu&#8230; </p>
<p>Moreover.. I eat at Subba&#8217;s [near upper Club Side Darjeeling]&#8230; bhar pet SUngur ko masu&#8230; kaalo daal and bhat costs me Rs. 35&#8230; </p>
<p>May be in Ktm conventional food is costlier</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by JTM</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/essay-national-security-and-strategic-importance-of-darjeeling-and-dooars-and-need-for-the-urgent-creation-of-gorkhaland/#comment-122152</link>
		<dc:creator>JTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In conclusion – the need for the creation of a New State within the Indian Union, of Gorkhaland, is not only, Politically and Economically expedient and of “paramount urgency”, but also an “acute necessity” – not to mention a “burning National Security Issue” – which if further neglected (or subterfuges played upon by various vested interests from both Bengal and within the Darjeeling Hills, amongst the Gorkha people and ‘so-called, self styled, pseudo’ intellectuals themselves) – would bring dire consequences to India’s well being and standing in the International Community and would further denigrate its historical “sense of morality and purity”. – Gorkhs Daju.

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Is this para, words of Respected Brig Gurung or Gorkhas Daju?

If it is not Brig Gurung, then which part of the article is the conclusive closing statement of Brig, after defining the imminent security dangers of the chicken neck? Does his piece end with point No 30?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In conclusion – the need for the creation of a New State within the Indian Union, of Gorkhaland, is not only, Politically and Economically expedient and of “paramount urgency”, but also an “acute necessity” – not to mention a “burning National Security Issue” – which if further neglected (or subterfuges played upon by various vested interests from both Bengal and within the Darjeeling Hills, amongst the Gorkha people and ‘so-called, self styled, pseudo’ intellectuals themselves) – would bring dire consequences to India’s well being and standing in the International Community and would further denigrate its historical “sense of morality and purity”. – Gorkhs Daju.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Is this para, words of Respected Brig Gurung or Gorkhas Daju?</p>
<p>If it is not Brig Gurung, then which part of the article is the conclusive closing statement of Brig, after defining the imminent security dangers of the chicken neck? Does his piece end with point No 30?</p>
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		<title>Comment on TEA TALK: Keeping Production of Darjeeling Tea Profitable by Neophyte</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/tea-talk-keeping-production-of-darjeeling-tea-profitable/#comment-122135</link>
		<dc:creator>Neophyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bishal Rai, has resigned from the committee as he has been transferred to Calcutta.
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Amex transferable? :shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bishal Rai, has resigned from the committee as he has been transferred to Calcutta.<br />
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<p>Amex transferable? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on DARJEELING: Bhutan panic in Darjeeling hills by la huso</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/darjeeling-bhutan-panic-in-darjeeling-hills/#comment-122106</link>
		<dc:creator>la huso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be no excuse for those Bhutanese student for not wearing our Gorkha traditional dress. Not at all especially when they are attending the schools and collages in darjeeling. Its was they who taught us to act in this way. Because before when the Gurkha&#039;s didn&#039;t want to wear their traditional dress in Bhutan then they were expelled from Bhutan now the Bhutanese students studying in Darj are in Darjeeling(Gorkhaland) not in bhutan.So they have to wear what the rest of the students wear otherwise the message is simple leave Gorkahaland(Darjeeling). Officials from GJM should not exempt the Bhutanese students from wearing traditional Gurka dress. &quot;BEGGARS CAN&#039;T BE CHOSERS&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be no excuse for those Bhutanese student for not wearing our Gorkha traditional dress. Not at all especially when they are attending the schools and collages in darjeeling. Its was they who taught us to act in this way. Because before when the Gurkha&#8217;s didn&#8217;t want to wear their traditional dress in Bhutan then they were expelled from Bhutan now the Bhutanese students studying in Darj are in Darjeeling(Gorkhaland) not in bhutan.So they have to wear what the rest of the students wear otherwise the message is simple leave Gorkahaland(Darjeeling). Officials from GJM should not exempt the Bhutanese students from wearing traditional Gurka dress. &#8220;BEGGARS CAN&#8217;T BE CHOSERS&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by Maakoora</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/essay-national-security-and-strategic-importance-of-darjeeling-and-dooars-and-need-for-the-urgent-creation-of-gorkhaland/#comment-122087</link>
		<dc:creator>Maakoora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick check on the Constitution just for the sake of discussion as brought forth by Chame, art 371c says :- under [TEMPORARY, TRANSITIONAL
AND SPECIAL PROVISIONS]
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Temporary power
to Parliament to
make laws with
respect to certain
matters in the State
List as if they were
matters in the
Concurrent List.

&quot;3[371C. (1) Notwithstanding anything in this
Constitution, the President may, by order made with
respect to the State of Manipur, provide for the
constitution and functions of a committee of the
Legislative Assembly of the State consisting of members
of that Assembly elected from the Hill Areas of that State,
for the modifications to be made in the rules of business
of the Government and in the rules of procedure of the
Legislative Assembly of the State and for any special
responsibility of the Governor in order to secure the
proper functioning of such committee.
(2) The Governor shall annually, or whenever so
required by the President, make a report to the President
regarding the administration of the Hill Areas in the
State of Manipur and the executive power of the Union
shall extend to the giving of directions to the State as to
the administration of the said areas.
[Explanation. — In this article, the expression “Hill
Areas” means such areas as the President may, by order,
declare to be Hill areas.]
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Is this going to be the much talked about &quot;Interim&quot; arrangement?? WITHOUT DILUTING / SCRAPPING the demand for a separate State as stated by the WB Chief Secretary in the third tripartite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick check on the Constitution just for the sake of discussion as brought forth by Chame, art 371c says :- under [TEMPORARY, TRANSITIONAL<br />
AND SPECIAL PROVISIONS]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Temporary power<br />
to Parliament to<br />
make laws with<br />
respect to certain<br />
matters in the State<br />
List as if they were<br />
matters in the<br />
Concurrent List.</p>
<p>&#8220;3[371C. (1) Notwithstanding anything in this<br />
Constitution, the President may, by order made with<br />
respect to the State of Manipur, provide for the<br />
constitution and functions of a committee of the<br />
Legislative Assembly of the State consisting of members<br />
of that Assembly elected from the Hill Areas of that State,<br />
for the modifications to be made in the rules of business<br />
of the Government and in the rules of procedure of the<br />
Legislative Assembly of the State and for any special<br />
responsibility of the Governor in order to secure the<br />
proper functioning of such committee.<br />
(2) The Governor shall annually, or whenever so<br />
required by the President, make a report to the President<br />
regarding the administration of the Hill Areas in the<br />
State of Manipur and the executive power of the Union<br />
shall extend to the giving of directions to the State as to<br />
the administration of the said areas.<br />
[Explanation. — In this article, the expression “Hill<br />
Areas” means such areas as the President may, by order,<br />
declare to be Hill areas.]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Is this going to be the much talked about &#8220;Interim&#8221; arrangement?? WITHOUT DILUTING / SCRAPPING the demand for a separate State as stated by the WB Chief Secretary in the third tripartite?</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by PhoenixWithin</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/essay-national-security-and-strategic-importance-of-darjeeling-and-dooars-and-need-for-the-urgent-creation-of-gorkhaland/#comment-122058</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoenixWithin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69. :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by P Pradhan</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122051</link>
		<dc:creator>P Pradhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc. (my opinion, not backed by any data or management philosophies)...yes KFC and esp Mcdee would be cheaper compared to &#039;conventional&#039; food. But what about the extra cheek that you put on? An arc of a stomach and the high BP, colestrol, ceratine level, fat (big bad fat). All the more troublesome for people who lead sedentary lifestyle and the only social life you are able to manage is blogging on Beacononline. KFC khau pet badau!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you break it down to customer segment, choice, food habits and lifestyle, taste, presentation, brand name etc. (my opinion, not backed by any data or management philosophies)&#8230;yes KFC and esp Mcdee would be cheaper compared to &#8216;conventional&#8217; food. But what about the extra cheek that you put on? An arc of a stomach and the high BP, colestrol, ceratine level, fat (big bad fat). All the more troublesome for people who lead sedentary lifestyle and the only social life you are able to manage is blogging on Beacononline. KFC khau pet badau!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TEA TALK: Keeping Production of Darjeeling Tea Profitable by zyx</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/tea-talk-keeping-production-of-darjeeling-tea-profitable/#comment-122048</link>
		<dc:creator>zyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am gathering proof about these corrupt people in Delhi.

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We thought Nitesh already has the proofs in his statements here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am gathering proof about these corrupt people in Delhi.</p>
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<p>We thought Nitesh already has the proofs in his statements here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by zyx</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122039</link>
		<dc:creator>zyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gareeb desh ko dhani janata…

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Perfectly said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gareeb desh ko dhani janata…</p>
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<p>Perfectly said!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by Chandra</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122030</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What s Nepal ?Where s Nepal ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What s Nepal ?Where s Nepal ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by patleybaskounpad</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122029</link>
		<dc:creator>patleybaskounpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many of the ingredients for KFC and Pizza Hut are imported from abroad, including the chicken from Brazil and potatoes from Australia....&quot;

&quot;The Nagarik newspaper welcomed the restaurants, saying they gave “an opportunity for Nepalese customers for cheaper and better food and an alternative.”&quot;

how do we reconcile these two lines from the same report...unless in Nepal the normal laws of economics don&#039;t apply..or could it be that the newspaper was talking about Nepalese customers who having had their pockets strained by Michelin star rated restaurants that dot Thamel would now have KFC to fall back upon in these hard times???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many of the ingredients for KFC and Pizza Hut are imported from abroad, including the chicken from Brazil and potatoes from Australia&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Nagarik newspaper welcomed the restaurants, saying they gave “an opportunity for Nepalese customers for cheaper and better food and an alternative.”&#8221;</p>
<p>how do we reconcile these two lines from the same report&#8230;unless in Nepal the normal laws of economics don&#8217;t apply..or could it be that the newspaper was talking about Nepalese customers who having had their pockets strained by Michelin star rated restaurants that dot Thamel would now have KFC to fall back upon in these hard times???</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by Chame</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/essay-national-security-and-strategic-importance-of-darjeeling-and-dooars-and-need-for-the-urgent-creation-of-gorkhaland/#comment-122023</link>
		<dc:creator>Chame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the above utopian theories ve substance when we r talking abt that piece n parcel of land which didn t belong to WB in one way or another ?
Wats wrong with the demand of a state by her own citizens within the federal India when the const itself empowers its ppl under article 371 c ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the above utopian theories ve substance when we r talking abt that piece n parcel of land which didn t belong to WB in one way or another ?<br />
Wats wrong with the demand of a state by her own citizens within the federal India when the const itself empowers its ppl under article 371 c ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by P Pradhan</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/nepal-nepal-tucks-into-first-international-fast-food-chain/#comment-122021</link>
		<dc:creator>P Pradhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obesity....bring it on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obesity&#8230;.bring it on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Sugauli Treaty-1816 &amp; Breach of Recognized State Obligation by patleybaskounpad</title>
		<link>http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/nepal-sugauli-treaty-1816-breach-of-recognized-state-obligation/#comment-122013</link>
		<dc:creator>patleybaskounpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>layman...maybe &#039;bending&#039; wasn&#039;t the best word.....

first of all try understanding gravity from the point of view of general relativity.....

imagine your self on an elevator moving with constant velocity or to simplify the matter at rest(still constant velocity)...if you drop something in it, it would accelerate downwards with &#039;g&#039; (the so called acceleration due to &#039;gravity&#039;)...now if the same experiment was being carried out on an elevator in outer space  traveling upwards with acceleration &#039;g&#039;,  the ball would still fall with acceleration &#039;g&#039;....meaning the results would be the same, from which Einstein postulated the equivalence principal: &#039;no experiment conducted in a closed system would allow you to distinguish between a gravitational field and uniform acceleration&#039;....
one consequence of this is that if you were on an elevator coming down to earth with acceleration &#039;g&#039; you would feel weightless....the same way you would feel weightless in far out space....and there would be no way to internally discover whether the weightlessness was due to elevator falling with &#039;g&#039; or because you were in far out space......

now regarding light..
imagine you were in an elevator and your friend (the same guy who shouted about reincarnation from around the corner )with a torch light was outside it...we can think about three distinct situations...
(i) if your lift was at rest and your friend shone the torch...you would see that the light traveled straight....
(ii) if your lift was traveling at a constant velocity relative to the person outside, light would travel along a straight line path away from you...i.e. a straight line path angled away, while to the bloke outside it would still travel in a straight line
(iii) your lift was accelerating...the beam in this case would follow a curved path (ok no bending) away from you....

now (iii) has got profound implication because if light curves in an accelerating elevator then according to the equivalence principle it would curve in a gravitational field too...

so the question of light traveling in &#039;straight line&#039; does not arise at all...in spacetime (the four dimensional fabric of which the universe is made) light travels along a geodesic path between two points...if the geodesic is curved, the path of light is also curved...
now anyone who has flown intercontinental flights can tell us that the shortest distance between two cities isn&#039;t always a straight line...(in a globe, the longest distance between two points is in fact a straight line).....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>layman&#8230;maybe &#8216;bending&#8217; wasn&#8217;t the best word&#8230;..</p>
<p>first of all try understanding gravity from the point of view of general relativity&#8230;..</p>
<p>imagine your self on an elevator moving with constant velocity or to simplify the matter at rest(still constant velocity)&#8230;if you drop something in it, it would accelerate downwards with &#8216;g&#8217; (the so called acceleration due to &#8216;gravity&#8217;)&#8230;now if the same experiment was being carried out on an elevator in outer space  traveling upwards with acceleration &#8216;g&#8217;,  the ball would still fall with acceleration &#8216;g&#8217;&#8230;.meaning the results would be the same, from which Einstein postulated the equivalence principal: &#8216;no experiment conducted in a closed system would allow you to distinguish between a gravitational field and uniform acceleration&#8217;&#8230;.<br />
one consequence of this is that if you were on an elevator coming down to earth with acceleration &#8216;g&#8217; you would feel weightless&#8230;.the same way you would feel weightless in far out space&#8230;.and there would be no way to internally discover whether the weightlessness was due to elevator falling with &#8216;g&#8217; or because you were in far out space&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>now regarding light..<br />
imagine you were in an elevator and your friend (the same guy who shouted about reincarnation from around the corner )with a torch light was outside it&#8230;we can think about three distinct situations&#8230;<br />
(i) if your lift was at rest and your friend shone the torch&#8230;you would see that the light traveled straight&#8230;.<br />
(ii) if your lift was traveling at a constant velocity relative to the person outside, light would travel along a straight line path away from you&#8230;i.e. a straight line path angled away, while to the bloke outside it would still travel in a straight line<br />
(iii) your lift was accelerating&#8230;the beam in this case would follow a curved path (ok no bending) away from you&#8230;.</p>
<p>now (iii) has got profound implication because if light curves in an accelerating elevator then according to the equivalence principle it would curve in a gravitational field too&#8230;</p>
<p>so the question of light traveling in &#8217;straight line&#8217; does not arise at all&#8230;in spacetime (the four dimensional fabric of which the universe is made) light travels along a geodesic path between two points&#8230;if the geodesic is curved, the path of light is also curved&#8230;<br />
now anyone who has flown intercontinental flights can tell us that the shortest distance between two cities isn&#8217;t always a straight line&#8230;(in a globe, the longest distance between two points is in fact a straight line)&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Nepal tucks into first international fast-food chain by Nisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gareeb desh ko dhani janata...</description>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by PhoenixWithin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66. Please read :

&quot;and has neither geographical, nor historical or social bases.&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;and has neither geographical, nor historical or social bases.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on PHOTO FEATURE: Bimal Gurung inagurates a Buddhist Monastery by theba</title>
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		<dc:creator>theba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better now !

Thanks..

Theba</description>
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<p>Thanks..</p>
<p>Theba</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by PhoenixWithin</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhoenixWithin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops: #66. Read &#039;Rabindranath&#039;

Ref. to understand the theory of Rajputisation, please refer to the original studies by Ranajit Guha on the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops: #66. Read &#8216;Rabindranath&#8217;</p>
<p>Ref. to understand the theory of Rajputisation, please refer to the original studies by Ranajit Guha on the same.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by PhoenixWithin</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhoenixWithin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Layman

Ofcourse Bengal has a distinct &#039;flavour&#039;,which it has developed over the years through amalgamation of different races and cutural contact with many more - for eg. the tribal roots as well as Aryan influence, the intrgration of the region into the Hindu fold, with tribal elements like mother goddess worship being retained..., the muslim influence, the British influence as well as influences from diff. ethnic groups from other parts of India and beyond, have all contributed to this fantastic melting pot of culture, and this is our &#039;flavour&#039;, and we are proud of it.

Could Rabinnath or Michael Madhusan be what they became without coming into contact with the west? In Tagore&#039;s music, dance forms, and philosophy, we see a &#039;wholeness&#039; and internationalism that is only possible in a culture that is &#039;genetically&#039; inclusive as the &#039;Bengal&#039;i.

About Gorkha, of couse originally Gorkhas ARE those who hail from the Gorkhas province in present Nepal. We all know about the history - PN Shah and his conquests, and the defeat by the British and formation of Gorkha regiments, etc. And about Guru Gorkhanath, plese refer to the studies on Rajputisation/ Hinduisation of the Gorkhas.... there have been studies on these.. which show the process by which the tribals gradually were inducted into the hindu fold, through the cration of a &#039;legend&#039;. This hinduisation process was common....in the peripheral areas of the hindu fold where the services of a saint or brahman was used to create a legend for the ruling family, which made possible for their &#039;induction&#039; as Kshattriyas. The &#039;lowly&#039; in the social ladder ofcourse joined the hindu fold as OBCs and lower castes...

The argument for creation of Gorkhaland in Darjeeling is akin to the creaton of a Bihari land in Assam for example, or a bengalistan in the silicon vally of USA... it is quite an &#039;outrageous&#039; demand actually and nither geographical, nor historical or social bases.

It is ofcourse a &#039;political demand&#039; made to serve certain political purposes/ interests.

Hope I made myself clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Layman</p>
<p>Ofcourse Bengal has a distinct &#8216;flavour&#8217;,which it has developed over the years through amalgamation of different races and cutural contact with many more &#8211; for eg. the tribal roots as well as Aryan influence, the intrgration of the region into the Hindu fold, with tribal elements like mother goddess worship being retained&#8230;, the muslim influence, the British influence as well as influences from diff. ethnic groups from other parts of India and beyond, have all contributed to this fantastic melting pot of culture, and this is our &#8216;flavour&#8217;, and we are proud of it.</p>
<p>Could Rabinnath or Michael Madhusan be what they became without coming into contact with the west? In Tagore&#8217;s music, dance forms, and philosophy, we see a &#8216;wholeness&#8217; and internationalism that is only possible in a culture that is &#8216;genetically&#8217; inclusive as the &#8216;Bengal&#8217;i.</p>
<p>About Gorkha, of couse originally Gorkhas ARE those who hail from the Gorkhas province in present Nepal. We all know about the history &#8211; PN Shah and his conquests, and the defeat by the British and formation of Gorkha regiments, etc. And about Guru Gorkhanath, plese refer to the studies on Rajputisation/ Hinduisation of the Gorkhas&#8230;. there have been studies on these.. which show the process by which the tribals gradually were inducted into the hindu fold, through the cration of a &#8216;legend&#8217;. This hinduisation process was common&#8230;.in the peripheral areas of the hindu fold where the services of a saint or brahman was used to create a legend for the ruling family, which made possible for their &#8216;induction&#8217; as Kshattriyas. The &#8216;lowly&#8217; in the social ladder ofcourse joined the hindu fold as OBCs and lower castes&#8230;</p>
<p>The argument for creation of Gorkhaland in Darjeeling is akin to the creaton of a Bihari land in Assam for example, or a bengalistan in the silicon vally of USA&#8230; it is quite an &#8216;outrageous&#8217; demand actually and nither geographical, nor historical or social bases.</p>
<p>It is ofcourse a &#8216;political demand&#8217; made to serve certain political purposes/ interests.</p>
<p>Hope I made myself clear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PHOTO FEATURE: Bimal Gurung inagurates a Buddhist Monastery by theba123</title>
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		<dc:creator>theba123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17,
how does it look like? anymore complaints :P</description>
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how does it look like? anymore complaints <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on TEA TALK: Keeping Production of Darjeeling Tea Profitable by Chame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,I m boarding Kingfisher Airlines to settle all ur disputes.
Nitesh be at the airport to recieve me.</description>
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Nitesh be at the airport to recieve me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by Chame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...PW ra @tm ko chakkar chaldai chha.</description>
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		<title>Comment on In Himalaya Darpan Today! by Sandeep Kr. Rai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep Kr. Rai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Barun.

Happy Thanks Giving day.</description>
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<p>Happy Thanks Giving day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SIKKIM: TIE award bagged by Sikkim entrepreneurs by KUMAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KUMAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONGRATS.

ENTREPRENURSHIP OF HIGEST CLASS IS COMING UP IN SIKKIM BECAUSE OF THE INITIATIVE AND HARD WORK OF PEOPLE. SIKKIM HAS GREAT FUTURE.</description>
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<p>ENTREPRENURSHIP OF HIGEST CLASS IS COMING UP IN SIKKIM BECAUSE OF THE INITIATIVE AND HARD WORK OF PEOPLE. SIKKIM HAS GREAT FUTURE.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TEA TALK: Keeping Production of Darjeeling Tea Profitable by common people</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dEAR nitesh Chettri,,,,,Do u scared to came in front of them and ask them to show the details or make them aware of the corruptions inside? If you really want the welfare of our community or u wanna wipe out the corruptions and re-establish the healthy GJMM in Delhi then we all are with you we all will see wat can be done….. BUT    Why u are making fun of your own community. This way you’ll not only show the inside story of GJMM Delhi but u’ll also blemish the reputation of  all Gorkhas………………….Dn’t u see how the people are happy and saying Wow Wow Wow??????????/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dEAR nitesh Chettri,,,,,Do u scared to came in front of them and ask them to show the details or make them aware of the corruptions inside? If you really want the welfare of our community or u wanna wipe out the corruptions and re-establish the healthy GJMM in Delhi then we all are with you we all will see wat can be done….. BUT    Why u are making fun of your own community. This way you’ll not only show the inside story of GJMM Delhi but u’ll also blemish the reputation of  all Gorkhas………………….Dn’t u see how the people are happy and saying Wow Wow Wow??????????/</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEPAL: Sugauli Treaty-1816 &amp; Breach of Recognized State Obligation by layman</title>
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		<dc:creator>layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pbku bro…


Since I was not convinced with your idea of bending light rays, let me throw some light on the light again (pun intended) from different angle of incidence. Btw, please not be taken this as an attempt to put you down or challenge your might or something more sinister, these are my arguments that can be defended, clarified or even proven wrong if I am wrong.


I hope you would acknowledge the points about the light mentioned below:

(i)	that its ray travels in a straight direction (in fact shortest distance between two points, smaller the distance lesser the energy and more stable the transition process) in vacuum (where there is uniformity in refractive index)
(ii)	that it bends only when there is something which can distort the space-time geometry (e.g. strong gravitational force) as predicted by Einstein theory.
(iii)	that obstruction (e.g. wall, humans, water etc.) along the path of propagation merely reflect, diffract or absorb or in other word change the course of the ray but the reflected/diffracted ray will still be propagating along a straight line….until it bumps into another obstruction..to repeat the same story again..


Now, if you see it (the phenomenon mentioned in (iii)) as a bending ray, it is grammatically correct but wrong in some sense of word just like your sentence“the elephant is a bird that sings in spanish”.


My idea of “bending” is a banana-shot going inside the goal post after circumventing an obstruction/shield of defenders and not the one that hits one of the defenders, resulting in deflection and an unfortunate goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pbku bro…</p>
<p>Since I was not convinced with your idea of bending light rays, let me throw some light on the light again (pun intended) from different angle of incidence. Btw, please not be taken this as an attempt to put you down or challenge your might or something more sinister, these are my arguments that can be defended, clarified or even proven wrong if I am wrong.</p>
<p>I hope you would acknowledge the points about the light mentioned below:</p>
<p>(i)	that its ray travels in a straight direction (in fact shortest distance between two points, smaller the distance lesser the energy and more stable the transition process) in vacuum (where there is uniformity in refractive index)<br />
(ii)	that it bends only when there is something which can distort the space-time geometry (e.g. strong gravitational force) as predicted by Einstein theory.<br />
(iii)	that obstruction (e.g. wall, humans, water etc.) along the path of propagation merely reflect, diffract or absorb or in other word change the course of the ray but the reflected/diffracted ray will still be propagating along a straight line….until it bumps into another obstruction..to repeat the same story again..</p>
<p>Now, if you see it (the phenomenon mentioned in (iii)) as a bending ray, it is grammatically correct but wrong in some sense of word just like your sentence“the elephant is a bird that sings in spanish”.</p>
<p>My idea of “bending” is a banana-shot going inside the goal post after circumventing an obstruction/shield of defenders and not the one that hits one of the defenders, resulting in deflection and an unfortunate goal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESSAY: NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF  DARJEELING AND DOOARS AND NEED FOR THE URGENT CREATION OF GORKHALAND by layman</title>
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		<dc:creator>layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By that analogy even word gorkha could mean anything-- name of the place (by the way there is a place named gorkhey in Darjeeling district as well lest you might cross the border and head towards nepal again) or the name of the historical hindu saint from uttar pradesh or a super-community packed with likes of robert tamang, tenzing gurung, phillips thapa, garjaman bhutia, debashish chhetri, surya lepcha, theba lama, maichang rai, jyoti dukpa etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By that analogy even word gorkha could mean anything&#8211; name of the place (by the way there is a place named gorkhey in Darjeeling district as well lest you might cross the border and head towards nepal again) or the name of the historical hindu saint from uttar pradesh or a super-community packed with likes of robert tamang, tenzing gurung, phillips thapa, garjaman bhutia, debashish chhetri, surya lepcha, theba lama, maichang rai, jyoti dukpa etc.</p>
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