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Corinne said
Hi Barun Daju
First of all, great journalistic work you’re doing here! Keep it up, I appreciate the transparency of your site, and the voicing of different opinions. I lived in Kalimpong in 2006 and 2007, and your site and the Darjeeling Times give me a chance to keep up in Switzerland with what’s happening in Darj.
I’m a journalist as well, and writing a story on the Gorkhaland issue. There’s hardly any coverage in the Western media, as it happens often to “forgotten” tensions and conflicts. Will send you the story if I don’t forget.
But I have a question: I read Bappaditya Paul’s “Gorkhaland is my monkey” interview with Ghisingh. What does Ghisingh mean with the “international spy network”? I haven’t heard anyone mention that before. Thanx for your help!
Corinne
barunroy said
Dear Corinne,
Greetings from Darjeeling and thank you for your comment. We would all love to read your story on Gorkhaland issue. In fact, it would provide us all a whole new perspective on Gorkhaland. Regarding Subash Ghisingh’s quote on the ‘international spy network’, we can’t really come to conclusion as to what he really meant. However, it can’t be taken as to be mere ramblings either, since this has become one of the most vulnerable of all regions in Eastern India. The North East especially Nagaland, Manipur, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh are ridden with Anti-India movement with militant outfits like NSCN, Karen, ULFA and the likes. China has direct involvement in the area and so does the Military Junta from Mynamar with the Drug crescent starting here. Towards the North and the West is Bhutan with the Lhotsampa problem and the training camps of the ULFA and NSCN. And of course in the East – Nepal with a porous border and the Maoist Insurgency made worse by the infancy of democractic institutions. It is also a well known fact that Nepal has now became a safe haven for Terrorists organizations like Lasker-e-toiba, Jaish a Mohammed etc. Hence, the greater activity of the Intelligence agencies of China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal,Mynamar among others coming into play.
Anyway whether Subash Ghisingh was talking about these very things could merely be a coincidence after his self imposed exile.
If you need any information on Gorkhaland and especially the Gorkhaland movement, you can write back to me.
Regs and best wishes,
Barun Roy
Susamir said
Dear Barun,
Just a quick question. Which is this newly formed party- the GNLF(C)? I saw you mention this in your post about the coalition parties’ meeting.
Thanks,
Susamir
barunroy said
GNLF(C) is not a newly formed party. It stand for Gorkha National Liberation Front (C.K. Pradhan Faction). This was formed after the assassination of C. K. Pradhan in Kalimpong. The supporters of C. K. Pradhan broke away from GNLF and created GNLF (C). The party was formed in 2002
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
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Regs
Barun
rabden Rongkup said
THE VOICE OF THE INDEGINOUS PEOPLE ;;;Couldent help but listen to the sagas told to us every evening by our grand parents , tales mostly relates to the ancient glories past of these hills and hillocks of the Mt Kanchanjunga ranges handed to them by their fore fathers.
When I grew up as a native I came to understand much had changed then the history related to me, but the language that we speak “Rong –a – Ring” commonly known to the world as Lepcha Bhasa deciphered everything. As so many important things are incorporated inside which is useful in my day to day life, for example it starts from simple things such as names of the places , what is the landscape like ? whether it is right to settle out there , whether medicines are found out there ? what kind of trees, birds ,animals are found? How strong is the flow of the water in the river ………etc
I would like to give you few example each song , poems , spontaneous songs called APPRAVOM Laments of the ancient country called the MAYEL-LYANG, the boundary stretches to every direction from Mt Kanchanjunga ,
lets us begin from the rivers , Ranu , Rangeet, Rumong etc this language is a systematic language and most names of the rivers start from the letter “R” because we believe that it is starting from the ‘Rum-Lyang’ i.e. Rum means God and Lyang –means land as the believe in Lepcha religion is that the 1st man and women was created from the snow of the Holy Mountain , so when we die we return back to the mountain , so since its coming from RumLyang all the snow fed rivers start from “R” yet there is a junction that we call TEESTA , this is the point where River Ranu meets Rangeet, and Questions –TEE-SATA if literally translated means When did you come? yet all the names of the rivers starts from R?
landscapes will be a huge list but I’ll try my best in a short paragraph , lets us climb up from the rivers . Why the Names??? Eg. Mully – in lepcha it is ‘Mutly’ which means earthquake belt area , Mongpong- Mong- medicine and Pong – place where we assemble or gather , Sanada- Sana means Bear ,Da- means sleeping, Singritam particular species of trees found out there ,Dello –Da means pond Loo means hillock , AlGARA –Al means new GRI means fortress , PEDONG—PAY means grass DONG means to search , LAYBONG – ALY BONG shaped like a tongue , POKRABONG –means bamboos have been cut, SINGAMAREE – SANG means wood MAA means to hide LEE means house. TAKVAR_ Prikvar means wasp. DARUMDIN – DA means lake RAM means destroy DEM rebuilt , MIRIK –ME means fire RIK means caught , now just above Mirik is THORBOO tea estate which means to run away from the fire , SYOK tea estate the people rested out there and took out the lice . SITRABONG is SADAR means Lightening and light out of fire i.e. when the Britishers arrived and made electricity the people saw it as fire from the other side , the natives were made Night guards and they made a hut to rest that is DALI….SILLIGURI means string the bow, SEVOK jungle has been cut down then comes the history of ZOULASI now Jalpaiguri Where they saw it as flat land of paddy cultivation and how the princess from the plains taught us to plant paddy . Sangsay, Suruk, Pringtam , Tashiding, Phosur, Kakeybong, , , Gidawlling, each has a meaning that is useful to survive in the hills and hillocks of these ranges. All this is because the pivot of the lepcha religion is based on nature and it is according to the nature the names have been given. Sometimes people say that Kalimpong and Darjeeling is a Tibetan given name , but as far as I know it literally translates into KA- Kayu means we LEM means gather and PONG means again place ,to my surprise if the town Kalimpong was a Tibetan name then why didn’t they name the villages too , as far as I know Kalompong is the spot up there in the Gulf ground of the army base and the previous name is Damsanglyang on of the last kings fort is till up there in Algara and in Gurubathan adjacent to the Doars plains the Palace is called Dalimgri , same goes with the name Darjeeling , RUMDARJU literally means ADODE OF GOD and LYANG means land in lepcha so the same argument if it was a name of Tibetan origin they why dident they name the villages such as Laybong etc..same goes to other places inside Sikkim, this land we call Rengyong lyang in Lepcha , and in southern part of Bhutan this land we call “Prolyang” and in western Nepal we call Payu lyang.
The Holy books used by the natives called the “Namthers” deciphers most of it as it contains religion, history, medicine, geographical location and soothsaying . Now sometimes it is very hard for a native to talk about these things because these books have history along with the beginning of the Indian history, now if you see Indian history starts with the advent of Alexander the Great, where Chandra Gupta Moria resisted the invasions, yet again there is a mention of the the lepcha king Phorthak Panu who sent forces to help Chandragupta Moria ,Chandra Gupta is mentioned as Chandragop in the books, things like that the The lepcha king Tarvu panu who had his capital in Kursong in the 16th century when Renzyong boundry now Sikkim was being carved out the contampery of Kazir Khan etc. these are a whole lot and the names of these places were before birth of Christ. That is the reason most people do not understand the exact meaning if the names of the places. The Namthars tells us the reason for each and everything of how the nature is going to react as the original Namthar is believed to have come a particular gauge inside the mountain of now Dzongu in North Sikkim, and to my utter surprise the hill is still there and the books and letters are carved out in the mountain the location is in such a place the it is impossible for any human being to go out there and carve it.
Now in this 21st century we are taken up I guess with our new culture and life style , some of my relatives are Nepali brothers and sisters , some are Tibeten origin ,some are from the plainsmen,we learnt a lot of new religion the philosophy, first with the arrival of Highlanders from the north our Bhutia Brothers and sisters started with Buddhism, Down with the plains brothers and sisters and with our nepali brothers and sisters Hindu , and later with the arrival of the Englishmen we learnt Christanity, some have also learnt the religion of Muslim. It is very beautiful to learn of all new cultures that our grand parents had never got a chance. we got a chance to be educated, ways of life more better and a whole lot of things, new prospects and new dreams in their eyes when I see my children, that which we had never imagined when we loitered around the ravines, still a huge number of the natives are in the 18 th century condition in the villages in and around Sikkim, Darjeeling, Kalimpong, Nepal Illam area, southern Bhutan, hunting , Drinking Chee , and cultivating with the outdated instruments .
It was when I was at the age of 30 the movement of Gorkhaland came out , we all were excited then a Boundary among ourselves for the Bhota Lapcha Nepali that was the slogan, nights in the forest with outdated guns , knives ,Banphook, Khukeries etc. I remember THE C R P F was the main enemy the , HONDA the dreaded Policeman
Curfews, 40 days strike , Children happy there was always Holidays with strikes , Heads hanging on the streets ,gangs , muscle power, CPIM the enemies to be killed later the Gorkha Volunteering Commandoes etc………. a whole lot of tales to be told. In the mist of it oneday I got a chance for free to visit the capital City , and then I came to realize thousand and one things , it was like the eagles view, the waste of life , nonsense of the politicians , and misleading of our simple people from the Hills be it of any community ,Whether Nepali ,Bhutia or lepcha, came to realize that such agitations occur everyday in the vast country India, with our population altogether hardly produces two Member of Parliament, nothing was heard as India can sustain with out the revenue of Darjeeling in fact it is a burden , Here I was from the remote village of Darjeeling and when I grew up I learnt to speak Nepali as I had to be one within the others, and there I came to realize that I had to fit inside The chinkis among the northeastern, what a blunder when the other communities were rising up with Lawers ,Docters, MBAs , Computer engineering chasing the career , I was busy with the guns ,Knives and khukuries, their things are being heard as they have contacts and they are educated and asking for relevant things in a relevant manner, I came to see that their leaders are educated , and paused a moment and compared to my leaders , ……….. as time passed by I met many of my friends , a few that was left after hangover of the so called ‘ANDOLAN’ most had no future due to lack of education along with them their family, not to forget the pains of each one who lost their dear ones , Yet again life rolled on with the some trust was gained with the only source of income of the Mountain The Tourism and the schools and Collages ,it was so exciting to see the youths were catching up with the main stream of education ,sports, computers , earning money and sending back home and some amount of administration and proper channeling and bargaining with the Govt in our own way , without the public being disturbed, even though we were being denied the basic democratic right i.e. The right to vote. It had just been a years or so when I breathed peacefully and said to myself, Thank God the politicians are not using the life of the youths for their spinster designs. But to my utter disappointment it has started again right in front of my eyes, The same old story STRIKES BLOCKING THE ROAD and fighting among ourselves , and telling the world that Darjeeling is a land of rowdies, and no tourist are to visit out here , it is unsafe for the Children to be admitted in the hills etc… For Goodness WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR AND FOM WHOM? FOR WHAT? AND WHO IS ASKING? AND SHALL WE FOLLOW THE SAME PATH WHERE WE HAD STUMBLED ONCE BEFORE? WHAT IS THE SLOGAN THAT THE NATIVES ARE SUPPOSED TO USE?
Upendra said
O Broda tried posting a comment in that Jai Prithivi Narayan Shah article.. khai post nai bhayena..
Hope U are doing fine and Congrats for everything
norbu t said
dear barun bhai
these 2 articles appeared on the pioneer delhi. the first as an editorial and the second as a lengthy article, which is a +tive sign as the policy makers of the country r based in delhi and they will and should get sensitized regarding the explosive ‘powder keg’ situation in darj.(secret intel reports to hm r lost in the dusty files of north block and can never create awareness/public opinion) the gjm should also focus on regularly feeding the capital media ( this is where enlightened souls like u can play an important part)since people who matter are basically holed up in delhi and till a few days back were totally unaware on the gorkhaland issue post prashant episode under the gjm.
p.s. keep up the great work u r doing :-
Ghising’s folly
The Pioneer Edit Desk
It is CPI(M)’s mistake, too
It is unfortunate that the situation in Darjeeling continues to remain tense despite a week having passed since the Gorkha Janamukti Morcha-sponsored indefinite blockade began last Sunday. The GJM has paralysed the hills — halting also the heritage toy train — by intensifying its movement for a separate Gorkha State. Chief among its demands is the dismissal of Mr Subash Ghising from the post of ‘Caretaker Administrator’ of the Gorkha Hill Council. Mr Ghising has been clinging to this job despite his tenure having expired in 2005, with no election having been held since then. Such is the unpopularity of Mr Ghising in the hills of West Bengal now that he has been forced to seek shelter in Kolkata. While the Union Government seems to find itself in the role of a helpless spectator as events unfold, the Marxist Government in West Bengal, having co-opted and corrupted Mr Ghising, is stumped. Perhaps the only notable thing that has happened during the interregnum is CPI(M) veteran Jyoti Basu’s candid observation that Mr Ghising’s hold in the hills is tenuous as the GNLF chief has become weak with his own partymen going against him. This may have nudged a vacillating Left Front Government to state that Mr Ghising’s term would not be extended after it expires on March 24. This has, however, not prevented the Left allies of the UPA Government from putting pressure on it to push through the controversial Bill that would grant Sixth Schedule status to the Gorkha Hill Council. In doing so, the Left may be attempting to derail the Gorkhaland demand but is actually supporting the lost cause of Mr Ghising, who has made a mess of the Gorkha Hill Council since its inception.
The people of Darjeeling are a house divided. Having struggled for basic amenities for years, and given the serious charges of corruption against Mr Ghising, the elevation in status of the Gorkha Hill Council makes little sense to them, though it would give more funds and authority to Darjeeling. At the same time, there is no reason why Gorkhas should be accorded the status of tribals, which they are not by any stretch of the imagination. The indigenous tribals of the region — for instance, the Bhotias, Lepchas and Sherpas — constitute a minority of the population; understandably, they are indifferent to the demands of either Mr Ghising or those of his detractors. In the mid-1980s, Mr Ghising led a violent agitation for a separate Gorkhaland; finally he settled for a Hill Council on the condition that he would preside over it in perpetuity. That’s not how democracy works. But who is to tell the Marxists so? By letting Mr Ghising have his way, the CPI(M) has created the ground for a fresh round of violence. This time, it could be far worse. Let us make no mistake: The Maoists in Nepal are trying to revive their putsch for ‘Greater Nepal’.
Disquiet in Darjeeling
Shikha Mukerjee
Subash Ghising manipulated the CPI(M) and the Centre to perpetuate his corrupt rule in the hills of West Bengal. The Gorkhas have now turned against him and Ghising has had to seek shelter in Kolkata. Meanwhile, the CPI(M) persists with its myopic politics; the Centre, as always, is clueless
Charismatic, even though he is not currently very popular, Mr Subash Ghising, former chairman of the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council and now ‘Caretaker Administrator’, is a squatter guilty of trespass. To continue two years after his elected term in office ended in 2005 makes him an illegal tenant of the autonomous area that constitutes the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council, albeit one who has the backing of powerful patrons, namely the West Bengal Government and the Government of India.
By a ruse, to which New Delhi and Kolkata are willing accomplices, Mr Ghising continues in power in Darjeeling and will do so till such time as the 107th Constitution Amendment Bill is passed. The Bill seeks to convert the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council into an autonomous ‘tribal’ territory — in itself an anomaly — on the lines of the Bodo Territorial Council, Mr Ghising will remain the anointed caretaker, instead of elected leader.
If these were merely aberrant acts of an ordinary citizen the deviations could be explained as an irregularity. Unfortunately, with the Centre and the State Government winking at his delinquencies, Mr Ghising has been transformed into an extraordinarily dextrous politician capable of capturing power and holding on to it with grim determination. In the guise of being a bulwark against disorder, Mr Ghising has turned his own acts of disruption into a potent weapon to terrorise as a result of which the Centre and the State Government prefer to comply with his deeds instead of deposing him.
Faced with an election in 2005, Mr Ghising declared that he would not allow the constitutional process to be initiated. In other words, he did not want an election which he clearly doubted he could win with the sort of overwhelming majority to which he had grown accustomed since 1988. To bolster his sagging popularity, Mr Ghising threatened to revert to his politics of destabilisation, that is, revive the demand for a separate Gorkhaland to be carved out of West Bengal, occupying the three hill sub-divisions of Darjeeling, Kurseong and Kalimpong.
To strike fear in the hearts of both New Delhi and Kolkata, Mr Ghising deployed the idea of ‘right to self-determination’ of the Gorkha people. Given India’s enormous sensitivity to any demand for self-determination and the Maoist-inspired turmoil in Nepal, Mr Ghising was able to bring the Centre and the State Government to their knees.
In a perfectly played game of double jeopardy, Mr Ghising compelled authority to accept his offer on the terms he found convenient. He demanded the inclusion of Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council in the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution, thereby transforming the foothills of the majestic Himalayas into tribal land. In defiance of sociology and logic, Mr Ghising twisted both the Centre and West Bengal’s arms and obtained tacit recognition for his domain as a sort of separate territorial space with a sort of separate population. Since even Mr Ghising could not describe the majority of Gorkhas as tribals, he maintained that they had a distinct identity, culture and language that must be given respect and recognition by the Constitution. The threat was clear, if India did not play ball with him, he would raise the issue of ’self-determination’, threaten to approach the UN, wave the ‘Greater Nepal’ flag and re-interpret colonial history to suit his own purposes.
It is debatable whether under the original arrangements in the Constitution, Darjeeling’s hill sub-divisions qualify for separate territorial council status on the lines of the Bodo Territorial Council in Assam. It would appear that appeasement politics, which worked to set up the Bodo Territorial Council by somewhat stretching the idea of autonomous are as provided for by the Constitution, is being stretched out of shape to accommodate Mr Ghising’s demand.
Since the possibility of the 107th amendment being passed and implemented by March 24, when the Caretaker Administrator’s term expires, is remote, Mr Ghising is all set to continue to enjoy power and privilege without the benefit of a legitimising election. Having sat it out for two years, it is unsurprising that the suspension of usual political activity in the Darjeeling area has resurfaced in a virulent version of Mr Ghising’s original demand of 1986 — for a separate state of Gorkhaland — led by a brand new group, Gorkha Janamukti Morcha, headed by Mr Bimal Gurung, once upon a time a henchman of Mr Ghising.
While the violence that marked the 1986 Gorkha National Liberation Front movement, of which Mr Ghising was the leader, is missing in 2008, and the unity among the people of Nepalese origin in 1986 is certainly not there today, the political turbulence in Darjeeling is an indication that some people are frustrated, impatient and willing to seize any advantage to revive the political process in that troubled area.
Mr Ghising does not like any other political actors other than himself and his party, the GNLF. His style since 1988 has been to try and subvert the competitive electoral process and convert it into a sort of faux democratic endorsement of his unquestioned supremacy in the area he considers his domain.
Never before has Mr Ghising been forced to flee to the foothills, seek refuge in Kolkata and demand the intervention of the West Bengal Government to maintain law and order on his turf. By doing so, he has revealed the erosion of his popularity. For a man with an oversized ego, the humiliation of being forced to turn back because the GJM barred his entry to Darjeeling is a measure of how he has morphed into a paper tiger.
The Gorkha Janamukti Morcha is an opportunistic organisation; it is the newest mushroom to have sprouted in the extraordinary political environment of Darjeeling. But there have been other movements and other agitations that have challenged Mr Ghising’s supremacy. Given his preference for occupying and exercising power as the ‘unanimous choice’ of the Gorkha people, the challengers to Mr Ghising, however splintered they may be, raise a huge question mark about the Caretaker Administrator’s position, popularity and politics.
For starters, Mr Ghising’s politics has never been democratic, though he is adept at using the idea to suit his own ends. There is no democracy within the GNLF; leaders are chosen and discarded by Mr Ghising, who insists that his style of functioning ensures ‘discipline’ within the party. There is a Central Committee of the GNLF and it is a selected body. A senior leader of GNLF, when asked as to how many persons were in the Central Committee, sounded vague: “Perhaps 25 or may be 30.”
In 1988, when Mr Ghising was required, under the terms of the original ‘Peace Accord’ for Darjeeling, to participate in elections, he was insistent that his councillors to DGHC had to be elected “unanimously” — in other words, appointed by him. It has been the same for the last 20 years. Mr Ghising has used the compulsions of both the CPI(M) and the Congress to bargain, successfully, over the “unanimous” idea. It has been his contention that political parties that operate primarily in the plains have no legitimacy in the hills. The plains parties have, by and large, accepted the division of spoils, leaving the council to Mr Ghising and negotiating over MLAs and MPs.
However much Ghising may want things to remain frozen in the pattern he established in 1988, the emergence of GJMM, before that the Communist Revolutionary Party (Marxist) led by former CPI(M) leader RB Rai, and the revival of the Gorkha League, are all indicators that the GNLF is not the only representative of Gorkha aspirations.
The aspirations are not easy to understand; it is often a matter of identity and often a matter of entitlement. Given Mr Ghising’s skills, he plays it both ways and so keeps the population in thrall. A separate State of Gorkhaland is the extreme in terms of aspirations, whereas the territorial council in terms of the 107th amendment is one step forward from the 1988 arrangement.
Why the “Gorkhas” need a separate State is not certain, because Mr Ghising raises the demand and then drops it. Who the Gorkhas are is also uncertain, though by Mr Ghising’s definition they are people of Nepalese origin. In terms of caste, the Gorkhas span the entire spectrum. Tribals in Darjeeling constitute less than 33 per cent of the population. In another twist to this tale, the original tribals of the Darjeeling hill sub-divisions, the Bhotias and Lepchas, constitute a diminishing minority.
By using a manufactured identity — Gorkha — to create his constituency, Mr Ghising has been hugely successful. Playing on a history of fears about the terrain he occupies, given its proximity to China and Bangladesh, Mr Ghising has inventively used his demands to carve out space for himself. Unfortunately, the space is now being encroached upon by other political actors who, like Mr Ghising, appear to be extraordinarily well connected
Deo said
Hi Bro,
I m a Gurkha from Siliguri, now working in Delhi.I wanted to disscuss some serious matters and ideas to add on the strength we have now.I wan you to reply me back in my email address at deo2oed@yahoo.com from ur id(need to avoide things being public, then it’ll be great for me to share my ideas and get ur suggestions to carry it forward.also send me ur view about the situation going on now. what do u think is correct?
Upendra said
Hey Barun we need more pictures and if possible videos from the ground so that we can spread it around the world.. can U do something about it??
barunroy said
Dear Upendra, I am trying my best. Should come up with what you have requested. Thanks
Yusuf Simick said
Thank you Barun for the good work you did by providing information of entire area during the time of crisis.
George said
Dear Sir,
What can you tell me of the small village of Daragaon where the Red Star Academy School is and a medical clinic to help the locals with their health and education?
Respectfully,
George
kurseong_ko_keta said
http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/supporttibet
barunroy said
Dear Mr. George,
I am extremely sorry that I could not reply to you earlier. I have been sick for a while. When you are talking about Daragaon, I wonder whether it is the village situated at Toong Soong Darjeeling. However, there are no Red Star Academy there. Village by the name Daragaon could b espread across the Hills. Could you please be more specific about your request? I could visit the place and gather all the information that you may require.
regs
John Roberts said
Barun,
You’re the only one who comes-up for the ‘Pines Hotel’ in Darjeeling. This was owned by a relative – Helen Keelan – who died in 1945 – is it still there? How do I contact them? Any Keelans left in Darjeeling? They were Church of Scotland. Many Thanks
John
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Roberts,
Greetings! You are most welcome with the inquiry. Pines Hotel was situated near Ghoom, Jorebungalow Darjeeling. I will visit the place today or perhaps tomorrow personally and carry out your inquires with the concerned people. You can expect to have something by day after tomorrow. I don’t think there are any Keelans left in Darjeeling, but let me find out first. And yes, there is still the Church of Scotland.
Regs
Barun
Upendra said
Dear Barun.. If possible can U kindly post the following link in your website??
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/b4tav09o/
Regards,
Upendra
hemant said
Dear Barun i have picture of member of the Constitution Drafting commitee so i wanted to know is there any way i can upload the picture
Yam K Shrestha said
Dear Barun Bhai,
I’m not able to open Himalaya Darpan since 6th April. The home page still shows the Himalaya Darpan of 5th April. Is there any problem?
rgds
Yam
rim said
Barun ssems to be unreachable for some days now and his blog is also not updated since 5th……..
nepalidai said
Barun bro,
Where are you? Your blog has not been updated for days now, hope everything is fine with you.
Rabden Rongkup said
Direct intervention to stop all mega hydroelectric power dams construction projects in Dzongu, in North Sikkim, India (defined as protected and preserved solely for the
indigenous primitive Lepcha Scheduled tribe of India). The government is forcibly building 26 dams in Sikkim out of which 7 inside the holy land Dzongu
Expectedly more than 500 lepchas from Darjeeling District , Illam Western Nepal , Southern Bhutan and Sikkim are starting to walk up for pilgrimage to Dzongu, North Sikkim, India
Dzongu region also comprises the restrictive Kanchenjanga National Park, which is in the process of being considered as a ‘World Heritage Park’ within 2009, besides being a Kanchenjanga Biosphere Reserve
Schedules as follows :
14/04/2008——- Prayer in Teesta ,Bene at 10am that falls in Darjeeling district and walk up to Ramphu that is Sikkim border by 2pm, and then to Singtam by 6pm that covers roughly 30 Km in the first day
15/04/08———– Singtam to Gangtok that is the Capital of Sikkim to meet the people in hunger strike which will reach 300day of hungerstrike on the 15/04/08.
16/04/08———– Gangtok to Penlong via Kavi which is a historical place of blood treaty between the Lepchas and the Bhutias .
17/04/08 ———– Reach Lower Dzongu and then enter inside the hills and hillocks for the offering of our prayers led by Mun and Bongthing (priest and priestess)
DZONGU, North Sikkim, a protected Reserved Land, where more than 6000 Lepchas live, is sacred and holy land to the Lepchas all over the world. The first Lepcha man, ‘Fudongthing and Nuzongnyoo’, the first Lepcha woman, were created by the “Itbu Debu Rum”, the Creator in Lepcha and settled them down in Dzongu at the base of Kingchoomzaongboo i.e. Mount Kanchenjanga. Their off springs are the present day Lepchas.
The Lepcha myths on slaying of Laso Mung Pano, the Devil, by Tamsangthing at Tukvyer Partam; the origin of Lepcha Mun, Priestess, Nyolik-Nysong, Boongthing, male Lepcha Priest, Azaor Boongthing; the Lepcha clans Lepcha New Year, Lepcha marriage, each Lepcha clan’s, “Chu”, mountain, “Da”, lake, and “Lep”, the door to “Poomju”, after death are to be found in Dzongu. All the Lepchas living in Sikkim, Darjeeling District of West Bengal, Illam, Nepal, and Bhutan and elsewhere in the world look up to Mount Kanchanjanga and Dzongu as their sacred and holy land. It immensely pains when they see and observe their holy and sacred land, Dzongu, being polluted, defiled and dishonoured
Past history relates, the Lepcha tribe then a nation called NEY-MAYELYANG (the land of the hidden paradise) , inhabited and ruled practically the whole of the Sikkim Himalayas with boundaries extending to even parts of western Bhutan in the east, parts of Nepal in the west up to the plains of Jalpaiguri and Nepal in the south and even Chumbi valley in Tibet. Considering this historical antecedent, the present status of the Lepcha indigenous tribe has been marginalized all over the Darjeeling Sikkim Himalayas . Considering , the remaining Lepcha lands are under due threat of being totally overtaken, wherein Dzongu remains the last abode and historical property of the Lepchas. All aspects of ‘Lepchas the Vanishing Tribe’ is expressed in the much researched book of the same name by the late Arthur Foning, who happened to base a majority of his research project in Dzongu itself, which presently is under threat of total ecological disaster if the proposed mega hydroelectric dam projects are implemented.
Dzongu has always occupied a protected area status specific to Lepchas to preserve the ancient history, culture tradition and ancient cult of “MUN”, being a soothsayer and an oracle of trible communities practiced till date . Since the days of Chogyal ,(Kings of Sikkim) succeeded by following democratic governments entry to Dzongu region by the outsiders are resticted by Law under article 371F. Also corollary to the restriction of entry by non Lepchas purchase of Land of Dzongu Lepchas are more restrictive.
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To support the protected status Dzongu was declared a protected area since the days of the Chogyal (Monarchy) and in 30th August1956. The above was further strengthened by further amendment by the Govt. of Sikkim, Home Dept, Notification No. 3069/ O.S. by which even entry, settlement or occupation by any outsider (non-indigenous) is a criminal offence. This laws were incorporated inside Article 371F in the mutual agreement between the Govt. of Sikkim and Govt. of India within the framework and constitution of India entirely for providing safeguard to the tradition, culture, and religion .
Whereas, the government fails to address the grievances in real terms. The acceptance of Dzongu as the last sacred, reserved land for the Lepchas, not withstanding the other existing conditions of a government protected area, national sanctuary, bio-spheric reserve, biodiversity gene pool area and the only pure and pristine Lepcha tribal, cultural region in the world.
Anita Hagelin said
Dear Barun,
Very nice that you are back with your most interesting articles. Sad though that it seemes to be a hard time for the people of Darjeeling Hills in the near future. Can not imagine how it could be so peaceful during our twelve days stay in the beautiful and most amazing region up there in late March. We will always remember and inspire others to know more and to visit Darjeeling Hills and Sikkim. Hopefully we will be able to come back in some years as well
to see more and to meet all our new lovely friends.
Best regards,
Anita
barunroy said
Dear Friends,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you very much for your concern. I have had to go through a lot of harassment in this few days due to my work, however, I think that I am now certainly on the right path. I especially sorry to Anita for not being there with you when you arrived in Darjeeling from Sweden. I hope that we could meet someday and that I could take you around the Hills and the Terai. Yes, situation is not that good. Things have already started boiling down to racial clashes in the Terai and the Hills Plains border which is a matter of great concern. I have gathered a couple of reports and news stories which you should find both eye opening and disturbing. In fact, I was so concerned about taking into what was happening at grassroot level throughout the hills and dooars terai that I took a Leave of Absence from all my works. The coming days and months will be crucial for all of us scribes. I hope and pray for your support.
Regs
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Hemant,
You could send me the pic at my email address: barunroydarj@gmail.com. Please offer all details and your full name so that I could mention you as the contributor. You could attach the pic to the mail.
Deepest regards and best wishes
Gorkhey Jeep said
Is it true that you and your family are being harrased? I have even been told that you have been asked to shut down Beacon Online, so much so that you will be resigning from the post of the Editor of Darjeeling Times, monthly magazine? Is there anything that we can do for you?
Neha said
dear Barun,
I am really worried. Is what Gorkhey jeep saying true? do take care of yourself. I know you too well to ask you to stop what you are doing but please be careful. I don’t know about politics in Darjeeling and everything else that you talk about in this blog, but apart from just saying ‘great work’ people might not come to your rescue when you need their help. Remember ‘Mohammad Sabir Case’ in Chennai when you were the sub-editor of Mylapore Times. Do call me, if you still have my number.
Am worried about you!
Neha
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Mr.Barun,
First of all I would like to thank you very much for your contribution towards Gorkha Community and himalaya Darpan which is available through Internet.
Mr.Barun I found in your website you have given right to post comment to anyone which is very good option,by means of this anyone can express their feeling.
Mr.Barun I found that so many people have posted their comment but they have not typed the word “Gorkha” properly many of them used as “Gurkha”Which is absolutely wrong.There are so many Tragedy related to our cast so by means of your Paper it is very easy to convince the People of Dist:Darjeeling in fact Gorkhaland.
Kindly can you publish this my small article after translating into Nepali.Those who are writing “Gurkha”.I am sending personel e mail or through your website that “Gurkha ” is Wrong and “Gorkhs” is Correct spelling.Now I think it is very difficult to send individual e-mails or comments.
So your Newspaper is the best option.Please do the needfull.
(We the people of Darjeeling still saying that we are Nepali,Gorkha & Gurkha
we can understand the meaning is same but it is very difficult to convince other people,so from today onwards we will say we are “Gorkha”,we will not say we are Nepali or Gurkha,This will help us to avoid confusion.
We will say we are Gorkha and our demand is for Gorkhaland.
Also we must be familiar with the Spelling of “Gorkha”.
All Should say we are Gorkha.Today we can see that all the Gorkhas are together in the form of GJMM and fighting for Gorkhaland.
No comment about our language Neplai and etc.Initial stage is we are Gorkha.The spelling of “Gorkha” is in Correct form and “Gurkha is in Wrong form.Comments are welcome
Ichamani Chettri
Deira,Dubai
U.A.E
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Mr.Barun,
I wrote one letter to you on 13/04/2008 but till now you didnt give me any response.You have not seen my e-mail or you have ignore it.Waiting for your quick and positive response
Ichamani Chettri
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Chettri,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I have replied to your letter and your appeal has been published.
Best regards
Barun
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
I found the study of names very interesting here. Can anyone elaborate on the name Jorthang, named after one Jahar Singh Thapa who apprently killed a big python with his bare hands.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Thapa,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I really can’t seem to find the precedent for your above mentioned folklore. However, I am putting in a section on names from my book – Fallen Cicada which is fascinating.
regs
Ms Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Barun
You have concluded I am a male like Jyoti Basu. Eeeks! I am a Ms. Thapa is my maiden surname and Mani is my married surname. Regards,
barunroy said
Dear Mrs. Thapa,
I am extremely sorry for the error. In fact, we have a prominent contributor and a respected commentator by the same name, and I had for the first time interacting with him addressed him as Miss and ended up in a soup – talk about Comedy of Errors. I was guilty in both accounts.
Please forgive me.
Best Regards
sameer said
hi Corinne, hey the old mans a lunatic. he talked about spies,ISI pakistan,gods and goddess,tantriks,godmen and some women and all the things only a lunatic is capable of doing so.and lastly you must have heard “Brain Damage” by Pink Floyd where they say -The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me till Im sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
Theres someone in my head but its not me.
this song was written for people like Mr Subash Ghising
sameer
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Barun,
This is to inform you that I am working in Dubai and my Account is in India with Citibank.Therfore to make a online draft,I need your mobile No. or Office No.
This time I made a draft and sent to your mentioned address but for future transactions I need your Contact No.
When you recieve my draft then please let me know by means of sending me e-mail
Thanking you very much
Ichamani Chettri
Dubai
hemant said
Dear Barun, i came to know that kalimpong once belong to sikkim before it was sized by Bhutan. Do you have any knowledge/ article regarding this.
Regards
Rajesh Pradhan said
Hello Barun bhai……is your phone out of order?
Bhodrolok said
Barun, looks like your blog has become a platform to DISPLAY ALL THE HOGWASH THAT THE NARROW MINDED LOT IN A COMMUNITY ARE CAPABLE OF.PLEASE ADOPT SOME STRINGENT MEASURES IN ORDER TO GET RID OF SUCH ILLEGITIMATE MINDS RUINING THE VERY PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG AS AN ONLINE TO LOGICALLY DEBATE ON SOME GENUINE ISSUES WITH SOME ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE, NOT JUST HEARSAY PICKED UP BY THESE NARROW MINDED PEOPLE FROM THE NARROW LANES THEY COME FROM WITH THEIR SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE, MOST OF WHICH IS BASED ON IGNORANCE.THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE, INSPIRED BY LEADERS WHO WILL COMMENT ON THE MORALITY AND IMMORALITY EVERYTHING FROM MALLIKA SHERAWATS SKIRT TO 6 WOMEN CHEER LEADING ON A FIELD, WHILE THE NATION IS IN THE THROES OF INFLATION OR PEOPLE INJURED IN AN ACCIDENT ARE DENIED ADMISSION IN A HOSPITAL LIKE SSKM.GET SOME FACTS YOU BRAINWASHED LOT.LEARN TO SEE YOUR OWN CORRUPTED AND UNEQUAL SOCIETY BEFORE COMMENTING ON SOMEONE ELSES.
prashanti chettri said
hi barun . this id the first time i read your blog and it is very impressive . you have mentioned about this ngo in kurseong called help can you tell me where it is . i tried locating it but could not find it.thank you very much.
prashanti
Anonymous said
Hey!.. Why not have your own domain?
Vivek Rai said
Hi Barun Daju,
First of all I’d like to pay my huge respect and honour for the work that you are doing. We are highly inspired by your novel “fallen cicada”. Barun Daju i need some help from, i need some materials on 86′ 88′ agitation, which inclues interal confliction on the two rival parties CPM and GNLF and the internal affairs, If you have some newspaper and magazine articles and photos as well.. as i am working on a script based on the agitation 86′ 88′, i have outlined the whole plot but i dont have some facts and figures which would complete my script. once i’ll get through with script i’ll send you a copy of it.
Thanking you,
vivek rai
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Vivek,
Thank you for very much for your kind words. I do have loads of info on the 86′Gorkhaland Agitation including the Police Records, GNLF pamphlets, newspapers clippings, info et al. But that encompasses almost a small library. It would be most helpful for me if you could be a little bit precise on your need for information. If you are in Darjeeling or live nearby perhaps you could you come visit me and I could open up everything to you. I could even arrange for interviews with prominent personalities and you could further get more info and data from there. However, if that is not possible, i would still like to help. If you can be more precise I can send whatever you need. Further, if you can send me the script (attach it through email) i can help on the same and perhaps help you on that front too.
Thanking you,
With best wishes and regards,
Barun
snoopy said
hello barun da…could u tell me about the revolutionary group UGRA that was formed in kalimpong(if im not wrong)…what has happened to this group ?..is it defunct?? could you post me some references?
Could you also throw some light on the gorkha youth wing headed by ajoy edwards…is it still functioning..what is ajoy edwards take on the present situation -especially on GJMM??
what is with GNLF(C) these days…any news that you know of??
and lastly..according to you,what differences are there between GJMM and ABGL..differences in terms of ideology/politics and so on…
any referrences or links would be helpful..
thank you
snoopy
samira ahmed said
Mr.Roy.i am a teacher.i heard about the blue diamond boarding school.kurseong.will it be possible for me to offer my services here.
hoping to get guidance and help from you.
thanks
Samira
Raja Basu said
Hi Barun,
Today I just stumbled upon your blog, and was immediately floored by the same. It is really a beautiful blog.
Though I grew up in Calcutta and now settled in New Delhi, my ancestral place (from both sides) is Jalpaiguri, and my relatives are spread across various places of North Bengal. So it is really nice to see that a person from North Bengal has launched such a successful blog. Congrats! Btw, I also have a blog (rajabasu.blogspot.com), and you are cordially invited to visit the same.
Finally, can you somehow get the contact details of Mr Dilip Singh, the gentleman who other day showed the guts to raise his voice against what he perceived as wrong?
Regards
Raja Basu
New Delhi
barunroy said
Dear Ms. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Thank you for your comment on Beacon Online and your interest on Blue Diamond Boarding School, Kurseong. It can be arranged for you to volunteer at Blue Diamond Boarding School or other such schools in the hill. Please do let me know as to what you really aspire to do.
With best wishes and regards,
yours faithfully,
Barun Roy
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Basu,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you for your kind words. As per Mr. Dilip Singh’s number, I will try to find it and give it to you.
Regs
B.S.Rai said
Hi Mr.Barun,
I would like to thank you for your contribution and Himalaya Darpan which is available through Internet.
B.S Rai
Dorjee Kameng said
Dear Sir,
Congratulations for this informative site which has highlighted almost all major issues concerning the ‘Gorkhaland” movement, with violence aside I wish things are sorted out peacefully and we can see the creation of Gorkhaland state as soon as possible.
Its quite clear that the CPI(M) Govt in West Bengal would not want to see a Gorkhaland simply because they want to use their arrogance to dominate and suppress the hill people as they have been doing since the last decades.
On the other hand they would not want to lose their “hill station” where they can go anytime and use their highhandedness as “tourists”. They are arguing that once Bengal was partitioned ( 1947 the creation of East Pakistan ) it had disastrous consequences and hence another “partition” should not be encouraged.
Owing to their myopic and short sighted attitude they fail to understand the “contrast” between the partition of Bengal in 1947 ( which was done simply to appease the Muslims,since they had created a Jehadi havoc during the independence period ) and the movement for Gorkhaland which is simply a demand within the Indian constitution!
Things are clear that the CPI(M) govt in West Bengal is very insecure, events like Nandigram and now Gorkhaland makes them wonder whats next ( Most probably I think the movement for a separate Cooch Behar state will intensify in the coming years,this will completely cut West Bengal from India’s North East making it the perfect “mainland” state! )
Nonetheless, The present Gorkhaland movement must continue without interruption and yield productive results paving way for a seprate state within the Indian constitution.
Best Regards
Dorjee
prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Roy,
Like everyone else, I would like to begin by thanking you for this platform.
I want to bring something to the forum that has been on my mind for a while when i think of Sikkim – what do you think the Nepali speaking people of Sikkim should be called? They have always been referred to as Nepali along with Bhutias and Lepchas. Its has been a very sensitive subject on this forum and fellow contributors and bloggers have made it very clear that Nepali is the language, Nepalese are citizens of Nepal and Gorkhas are the Nepali speaking folk in India. Would you then, according to this definition, call all the Nepali speaking population of Sikkim – Gorkha’s? So there would be Bhutia, Lepcha and Gorkha in SIkkim?Does anyone is Sikkim share this opinion or are opposed to this? Can you direct the Nepali speaking people of Sikkim to call themselves Gorkha’s?
I find it strange that SIkkim being so close to Darjeeling physically, culturally and historically seems to distant in a time like this. Also on this forum, there is hardly any mention of SIkkim and its role in the movement. I believe that a peaceful coexistence is possible and also tremendous support can be gained from Sikkim – please remember that Sikkim has a lot to do with Prashant Tamang winning the Indian Idol and it played a very active part then… it has been the genesis of the resurrection of the Gorkhaland movement.
I would like to also ask what would Darjeeling and the Gorkhaland movement gain by inconveniencing the people of Sikkim. It seems a little bit like bullying. Sikkim is helpless being landlocked and the GJMM does not seem to care that Sikkim – by default becomes affected by the strike. It would be quite another issue if the leaders of GJMM would have had a dialogue and some understanding and clarity as to what Sikkim’s role in the movement would be.
I was wondering if there was anyone who would like to comment on the points I have raised.
Thank you,
Regards,
Prashant Pradhan
YK Shrestha said
Dear Prashant,
I understand that Sikkim becomes the fall guy indirectly everytime the Darjeeling Hills calls for the bandh. It is not bullying but just unfortunate. If Siliguri is called bandh, then Darjeeling Hills and the entire North Eastern India suffers.
As for whether the Sikkim Nepali speaking people should call them Gorkhas or not is their prerogative. In any case, I have seen/heard them calling themselves Sikkimese rather than Nepali, Bhutia or Lepcha.
True, Sikkim played a great role making Prashant Tamang an Indian Idol, but so did we people from Assam, Bhagsu and all other states where Gorkhas are in significant numbers, so much so that even Nepal’s Nepalese played a great role inspite of them being a different nation.
insomniacreturns said
Hi barun ,
greetings from bangalore..I want to reread an article posted byMr bishal rai…I dont remember topic…but well amd reasonably written by him whre he make other commentors speechless..especially “thebengali”, who himself confesses of requiring time to recover fromsilence after that post by Mr Bishal.
Regards
Arnav
Praveen said
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prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Shrestha, Thank you for your comment – I was hoping that more people would like to share their opinion on the fate of Sikkim vis a vis the struggle for Gorkhaland but, it looks like nobody really cares about Sikkim. I said it was’ bullying’, you said it was ‘unfortunate’ – and unfortunate indeed it is – and what is even more unfortunate is that it does not even matter for the people involved in the struggle. I am wondering how you can say that – unfortunate is when you have no power to change the situation – but, the people involved in the struggle CAN show some compassion and not blame it on fortune! They have the power to make a difference to Sikkim’s fate.
You say ” all of North East India suffers” in the same sentence as “Sikkim”. Have you been to Sikkim Mr. Shrestha? do you know where SIkkim is located ? It is quite preposterous that you would attempt to claim that the magnitude that sikkim suffers because of the bandh is the same as the north east. Sikkim loses anywhere from Rs.5.9 Crores to 7 Crores per DAY – what do you lose Mr. Shrestha?
I repeat – What has Sikkim done to the people fighting for Gorkhaland? when has it caused harm to them in any way – ever? so, why harm the people of Sikkim? If your actions harm someone you care about, would you not attempt to alter the course of that action? would you not direct it in such a way that such hardship is not faced by people in sikkim? I hear that there is some helpline and support groups that provide supplies to the people in darjeeling – that is so selfish? what if someone in sikkim needs to be rushed to a hospital, an emergency? there is no helpline here. Are the people just supposed to perish?
are the people of sikkim forever going to live at the mercy of the struggle for Gorkhaland – however long it lasts? Public opinion i think will show that all the good wishes and support that the people of Sikkim have for the Gorkhaland movement is running short in supply. Please someone do something before it runs out.
prashant pradhan said
In this article today -
Sikkim SOS over bandh
Posted by barunroy on June 17, 2008
Morcha leaders had made it clear yesterday that they were “using” the “Sikkim factor” to push the Centre into calling them for talks. Morcha chief Bimal Gurung had told a rally in Kalimpong subdivision that the highway would be blocked until Sikkim spoke up on Gorkhaland.
Arm twisting and bullying ? or just unfortunate?
YK Shrestha said
@ Prashant Pradhan You say ” all of North East India suffers” in the same sentence as “Sikkim”. Have you been to Sikkim Mr. Shrestha? do you know where SIkkim is located ? It is quite preposterous that you would attempt to claim that the magnitude that sikkim suffers because of the bandh is the same as the north east. Sikkim loses anywhere from Rs.5.9 Crores to 7 Crores per DAY – what do you lose Mr. Shrestha? )
Come on Prashant, I have been to Sikkim umpteen times. Are you trying my intelligence by asking where is Sikkim located?? You would do well if you ask that question to other Indians, not me. I have my friends (batchmates) like Dr. Rabin Chettri, Dr.Diwakar Pradhan , Dr. Gopal Pradhan, my saino bhauju Ms. Jemima Pradhan (Director of Sikkim Tourism)and many others there in Sikkim.
As I said Sikkim is a fall guy. Sikkim just happens to be in the wrong place. We can not do anything with Geography.Right?
You guys at least have an identity and can call yourself as Sikkimese, what about the people from Darjeeling areas? Or may be you do not want your fellow brothers to be at par with you economically etc??
Time is for you to support whatever the hardships, but you are trying to be a cry baby here.
The Wanderer said
Prashant-would agree will your take on Sikkim.This looks like a desparate attempt to involve Sikkim into the thick of things.A Sikkim which actually cares for,and looks after its citizens.And does well.
Another moot point is why are people not talking basics-like sanitation,water,better intrastructure.It would be too steep to believe that Darjeeling has been deprived all these facilities by the centre/state governments.What role have the local politicians playes,apart from asking the poor Gurkhas to shed their blood.Why is there no talk about basic,and better, living rights.
This leads to a certain sceptism-even if Gorkhaland is granted-will actuall living conditions really change!!!!!!!
prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Shrestha – I am not trying your intelligence – the question was a rhetorical one and I was trying to make this point that – Sikkim gets DIRECTLY affected every time there is a strike and that we lose near 7 crores per day. I was asking how you could compare that to the North East and say that the North East suffers as much as SIkkim. Please note that I am trying to highlight the magnitude of the suffering and not just suffering per se – I suffer from a toothache as well but you know that they are not comparable – We cannot compare apples to oranges.
I do not doubt that you have been to Sikkim and know many people here but, you didn’t answer my question. I am trying to say that – Sikkim is not a fall guy – it has been made to be one. It is not a question of pure geography – logistics and ordinance have a lot to do with it. In the previous post, I mentioned that the Gorkhaland movement is USING the SIkkim factor to their benefit. It looks like they want to piggy back on causing Sikkim misery – please Mr. SHrestha – surely you can understand that this amounts to bullying and the larger point that I am trying to make is that antagonizing the people of SIkkim who have supported the movement so far is not a sustainable strategy. Please look and see that there is more to it than your simplifying it to to Geography.
I love Darjeeling as much as the next person – I have family there – Darjeeling and SIkkim are intertwined. The identity of Nepali folks in Sikkim is directly linked with the people of Darjeeling. It is not fair for you to speculate that we do not want our fellow brothers to be at par – in fact, i know for a fact that they are more than at par, they are superior in several aspects so, please don’t make such allegations.
Please dont let me lose respect for you by your namecalling – it is unnecessary to use terms like crybaby. Let us discuss and debate as adults and I would appreciate it if you could confine the discussion to whats on the blog. Support can have many manifestations – and there are mays to demonstrate dissent and protest – I do not agree that calling a strike and a bandh is the way to do it.
Osim Karki said
Dear Mr. Barun
I know this Himalayan Bacon recently & to you also. I am very thankful to your tremendous work and effort in the field of journalism. The recently erruption of the Darjeeling /Siliguri is really mental & physical harrasement for the common people. Actually I am in A.P of the N.E. state and belong from the same community. I only herad and read the tense situation in papers & news and have the same feeling like others.
recently i heard that GJM is not a registered Political Party and I secrutinize also, but really they were’nt in the list. Is it possible to function such a movement or any action without being registered as society or Union or as Political Party under State Govt. or Centre. Please Clearify I confussed.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Karki,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you for you comment. Let me welcome you to the growing family of the Himalayan Beacon or popularly Beacon Online. We at Beacon Online believe in Community Journalism and your views and insights are as important as it is with the rest of the family members.
As per the registration of the Gorkha Janmukti Morcha, it really does not matter whether GJM is registered or not until it contesting an election. It is then that Registration with Election Commission matters. At present when GJM is at the helm of Gorkhaland Agitation organizing rallies and protest programmes it does not need to be registered. Any group or individual has the right to gather peacefully in India as guaranteed as a Fundamental Right by the Constitution of India. However, I do agree with you and others that the Central Committee of the Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should get themselves registered as soon as possible in order to avoid any embarrassing engagements with other parties or the West Bengal Government.
Regs
Barun
rahul said
hi barun,
have you ever considered a situation where GJM would have been invited to the all party meet today and its representatives would have faced a situation of 17:1? believe me that would’ve happened. the mamta dis and her ilk would have changed their spots then. i have reasons to believe that the CM wanted to avoid such a situation and hence he had invited GJM on 18th to have a meaningful 1:1. unfortunately gurung and mamata seem to be the 2 sides of the same coin!!
Osim Karki said
Mr. Barun
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According to the article of April 5 by Mrs. Sen in the “The Telegraph”, Gorkhas of of Hills Like Darjelin etc. has been termed as Foreigners, if so what to the Other Gorkhas who are residing since from long decades in other place of India like in N.E. States etc. Like me my previous 4 to 5 generations lived and die here, r we still foreigner, we think, we do, we enjoy like the other Indians do,this is really a heartning article, if an article may be publish like same, calling the Bengalis as Bangladeshi, will it be fair, although she elebroted well backed history, but the present democratic & political Part hasn’t noticed by her. Being a such intellect, renowened, n well paid journalist of the top esteemed National papern she has demolished he image, Might be shwe has been paid by some anti-Gorkha elemenst?
Pliz , pray for her, and lord may bless her heart for softcorner not with hypocracy and orthodox comunal feeling. Be generous, as she has been gifted with grand knowledge which is to be executed for the well being of the people.
Hey lord accept my par 4 her.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Karki,
Please check out the following Links on Sumanta Sen’s article:
1. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/fight-for-a-new-home/
2. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/letter-to-the-editor/
3. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/the-telegraph-must-render-unconditional-apology/
Regs
Barun
Ben said
Dear Barun,
I’m a regular reader of your blog and would like to contribute as well. However lately I have seen that the std of the comments that are made is horrible this has seriously degraded the essence of blog. I know its impossible to avoid this but there could be some thing that can done.
All the best and do keep up the good work. Its good to know that your website is doing good, regarding the contribution I ll send you cheque and would like to order book called Cicada I hope got the spelling right. Do suggest me how to go about(would prefer email). Hope u’ ll find some alternative regarding the comments.
Wishing you all the best.
reagrds,
xxx
Rajesh Pradhan said
Barun bhai haven’t you received my mail yet,strange?…..Raj da.
barunroy said
Dear Rajeshda,
A very good morning to you. Yes, I have received your mail and am posting the pics as we speak.
Please do accept my best wishes
Regards
Barun
Y Pradhan said
Hi Barun,
Is something wrong with the site?
I haven’t been able to find leave comment box on some of the forums.
Could you please check and let me know if its just my system or is the the problem that everyone is facing?
prashant pradhan said
Dear Barun,
is there an email address of yours somewhere that I can copy you on the complaint I have made against the sikh online paper so you know that we have shown our support to the blog and that we care about beacononline.
I hope you resume the blog sooner than later. It was the one source that kept me abreast of the goings on here and also another means to integrate all the likeminded people.
Thank you for all your efforts.
Thanks
Prashant
Rajesh Pradhan said
It’s good that you’re back with the “Beacon Family” Barun bhai………Keep up the good work……….Rajeshda.
Update your blog and let’s start rolling buddy.
Rajesh Pradhan said
Wish the photographs and the small report attached was posted on your blog today,I had written about the people of Kharsang hoping for a relaxation in the bandh by today or tomorrow,it did happen.
aardee said
Barun
Why are the comment box closed on articles?
On the “Gorkha Pastors” I wanted to write that even my family is offering Mass in Delhi at our local Church…infact we are offering it both at Hindi & English mass so that more of our countrymen understand and become aware of Gorkhas.
Our effort needs prayers and blessing of God.
Regards,
Rashmi
Jeff said
Hi Barun,
I cant seem to find you email address anywhere. Would like to share some exclusive vintage pictures of Darjeeling (mid 1800s) that I managed to find in the British National Archives website.
Let me know you mail address please.
Jeff
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Jeff.
Greetings from Darjeeling!
You can reach me at barunroydarj@gmail.com
Regs
Homo Sapiens said
hi barun,
being a Bengali m ashamed that some of our bengali friends continuously using this blog as a media of molesting the Nepali people as servant, door keeper etc etc. and in response nepali and gorkhalis also actively abusing the other party.
This is really not desirable in a country like india.
Will you please stop them anyhow??? I felt like crying when i saw this kind of argument.
Hop u understand….
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
I completely agree with you. Remarks which demean others are completely unwarranted and uncivilized. I am coming up with a Beacon Online Comment Posting Rules. Any one violating these rules will be banned from the site. However, before implementing the Comment Posting Rules, I would like a deliberation on it by the esteemed members of the site so that a concensus could be reached.
Regs
Barun
aardee said
Barun,
The Comment box is missing yet again on news items…and YES u should CTRL+ALT+delete some very very disparaging remarks…that not just deman others but also makes your blog readers cringe at being seen on this blog.
sammy said
Dear Barun,
I have no idea if I’ll sound naive or not. I had planned to
visit Darjeeling the wonderful Darjeeling in September 08.
After reading a little on the political climate in Darjeeling
I am looking for advise on long term study [Buddhism] in this
gorgeous country.
Also, my I salute your service.
Sammy
barunroy said
Dear Sammy,
Thank you for your kind words. You are most welcome to visit Darjeeling. If you give me details about your interest (long term study in Buddhism ,eg..which tenets, there are various Monastery (universities specializing in numerous tenets), how long are you willing to stay etc., etc…As per problems regarding travels and lodging you will not have great problems.
Regs
sammy said
Thank you so much Mr.Barun for you reply,
I have been in the Nyingma tradition of Buddhism. I have some
Karma Kagyu study.
Do Buddhist families ever rent out rooms and bath.I plan on six
months stay and then because of visa requirements will leave
and come back if everything is agreeable between Darjeeling
and myself.I hear some westerns no the visa runs so they can
continue studies.
Again your generosity is appreciated
sammy
kuldipak said
dear barun
I would like to share with the beacon readers. some photos taken during the 60’s. I think its the first bhasa rally. How do go about it.
Homo Sapiens said
Hi Barun,
Thanks for your concern regarding the abusing comments posted on the blogs.Hope you will find something to restrict these very soon.
Barun, i would like to know how can i get a chance to work with your organization.I have done my B.A in journalism and then M.Sc in Electronic media.Presently I am residing in Bangalore, but basically from Purulia. At present I am working in an Interactive creative agency as a content writer.
Please provide me an opportunity to work with your organization. I find it a great initiative.
Thanks & regards
Sutapa
P.J. said
Dear Barun,
The demise of Sam Bahadur has been a great loss for the Go
sammy said
Dear Barun:
One last question when you have time.
Where is the nearest customs check point from another country
to Darjeeling.
If this site isnt the proper place to post this kind of question
please let me know.I would certainly appreciate that.
Thanks again,
sammy
jaigorkha said
Dear Da,
Since the talk I have had with u last time, I thought about it and I agree with you that we all have to change things, that is why I have started this blog by the name Jai Gorkha, I have used some of your pic s and will also be using your articles on my blog as i dont get updated much, so your site is the only rescue, I am adding your name, as full credit for the
Material should go to you, I am also starting the GJM unit in Delhi, we are going for a signature campaign tomorrow, Hope you will not mind me using your pictures and articles as they are for the same cause , peaceful and our own Darjeeling .my other email id will be gjmdelhi@gmail.com
And the web address is http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com Hope to get all the support you all can, we will try to do what we can here. May our wishes be fulfilled.
jaigorkha said
Dear Sammy,
As far as i remeber we get to see acheck point at the road which goes to Sandakphu, theres one more at jorthang and if i remember well theres one at Pashupati as well, there might be some more but these are the few i remember, now dont ask the functionality of these check points , i have no clue how they work, i think Barun da will be the best person to investigate.
insomniacreturns said
Dear Barun Roy,
I just heard from a friend that you are on X-News right now.Keep the good work going.
Regards,
From Bunch of Boys in Banaglore
Gorkhey Jeep said
Wow Great to see you on NewX…Great Job. YOu Rock!
Barun Roy again on NewX again on 12:30 and 4:30 tomorrow. Don’t miss it. You are a great inspiration to us all.
Please carry on and god bless you
jaigorkha said
Jantar Mantar , New Delhi 29/06/08
The signature campaign organized by the Delhi unit of GJM at Jantar Mantar turned out to be a great success, more then 500 people attended the signature campaign. Dr. Khatri and Mr. Pradhan were also present at the occassion. THe next event is to be on the 17th of April , where people From other community are coming here for a five day protest , this event will also take place at Jantar Mantar , Delhi.
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
sammy said
Dear Jaigorkha,
Thanks so much for your information.This site is really more
political then my posts. I am learning much however about
your political climate.Just don’t know what it means?
I’ll keep reading.
thanks again
sammy
RAI AK said
Dear Barun,
The headline on news of 30th June “Landslide in Kalimpong village, 59 families shifted” should be “Landslide in KURSEONG village, 59 families shifted”
Is there a personal contact address so that I may write you for personal information which will not be open to all the visitors of the site but helpful to you for the blog as well as your repository?.
Suggest Me.
Could the letters be arranged in the opposite order ie the current ones in the beginning and the older ones in the bottom?
AK Rai
Jeff said
There is Dr. Death threatening Barun..lol. Well Dr. Death, Barun is a journalist and it is his social responsibility to report facts. He is brave enough to handle his responsibility, unlike you who threatens people hiding behind aliases like “Dr. Death”…grow up and face the reality.
Jeff
Niraj Lama said
Barun, I read your Land Rover Article on Business World. It was a great piece. You are doing a yeoman’s job featuring Darjeeling Hills to the world community. Keep up the great work bro!
Llewellyn said
Hiya Barun,
Excellent reading of the latest news and views of the Darjeeling hills and surrounds, never realised that a magazine like the Himalayan Beacon existed!! your web page was forwarded to me by my sister from The United States.
Keep up the excellent journalism.
Best wishes
Lue
tycoon 1969 said
Dear mr Y K shrestra,
was reading yr comments vis a vis comments posted by Prashant with regards to the plight of the people of sikkim .whereas prashants comments were very mature yours were childish and on the rather extreme side – lacked of compassion for fellow brothers. Sikkimese people have always supported the gorkhaland movement in all possible ways ,but here it must be understood that the Govt. of Sikkim cannot support or officially endorse a call to create a seperate out of bengal. what if Bengal tomorrow say that a seperate state of Dzongu or lachung should be created out of sikkim. It is as simple as that.
So forcing a bandh on the people of Sikkim – for a stand that their govt. cannot officially take will only result in losing the goodwill of the people of sikkim in the long run.This i hope u will understand.
jaigorkha said
Delhi 6th July
The prisident of the Delhi chapter of GJJM has announced today that all the vehicles owned by the Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will from now on carry the number plates starting from GL. This request has been made keeping in mind the changes happening back in darjeeling.
Regards
GJJM
Delhi Chapter
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
aardee said
Jai Gorkha…Good luck to you on going around with a GL number plate in Delhi…beta challan kateg phataphat… : ) Yeh Dilli hain…rajdhani…be prepared to get harrassed by the Jat traffic cops.
I again appeal to all desist from writing GL on your vehicle number plates.
PPA said
All vehicles owned by Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will carry the GL number-plate.
What number-plates exist in Delhi ? Those of Indian states, those of the army and those of the consulate of different countries. Is there a chance that the demand for Gorkhaland as a state may be mistaken for complete freedom from India altogether? What are the chances? I mean – Imagine trying to explain the struggle for Gorkhaland amidst all the chaos … most of these cops dont know where Sikkim is and the few that do, think its a different country.
Dear President of GJMM Delhi Chapter, if indeed you have announced this – please let the people know that this is permissible by law. Tomorrow, if I want to put my name on my number-plate, Can I do it.. Can I create a number-plate called JAMESBOND 007 – because I really like James Bond movies and I would do anything to be closer to him. The Delhi Police will understand. Then, when I am in Darjeeling, I want to put PPA 1971. The West Bengal Police should not mind – if they allow GL number-plates, they can allow anything right? I mean, what is GL to anyone who is not familiar with the Gorkhaland movement? Or is there a rule that says that only people fighting for statehood are permitted to alter the number-plate system – the rest cannot.
Seriously though – what is the law on this – and can anyone just break it? Calling a strike is not illegal in India but I know that in NYC the person heading the Transit workers strike was imprisoned for calling a strike. So, I suppose you can call a strike to protest something. Can you really print your own number-plate? If there are any lawyers on this board who can think a little rationally, I request you to please enlighten all of us.
jaigorkha said
All vehicles owned by Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will carry the GL number-plate.
@ PPA
Politics is ruled by ETHOS, LITHOS and PATHOS, now there are few things which have no legal position in this small realm of politics, Youn can’t say that whatever we are doing is against the law , it is this law which will give us what we want and we just want them to know what changes is to be made, This is an emotinal outcoe of the desires we carry in our heart, Now it does not make a difference if we carry the GL number plates in delhi as it wqill hardly be noticed , this is what you mean to say , but remeber one thing , ONe tree can make thousands match stiks but one match stick can burn thousand trees. I am not talking violence here, its just a peaceful approach from our side to let them know that we are here to make this happen. How long will we wait for this to take place. Hope History will make your memory brighten up a bit, making salt in India was illegal, Gandhi Ji Did it, and its a hallmark . We are doing this to ignite a certain change. I understand your concern regarding all those people who will be doing this in Delhi. Dont woryy assistance will always be provided when needed, our numbers will be there for you to call us anytime theres any trouble, INfact our president of Delhi chapter is always on a run to take care of this.
For the law yes there is law for this as for the size and correct number and the format in which it has to be printed and put onnthe vehciles , but here you will have to understand that at this situation we are here to change the law for ourselves , what better way then to start it ourselves.
Regards
GJJM Delhi Chapter
jaigorkha said
@ PPA
Freedom of Speech and freedom of expression, We are speaking out loud and expressing our desire, thats our constitutional right, And when it is mentioned in our constitution i dont think it is against our own law, we are law abiding citizens of India, and we will never go against it .
Regards
GJJM Delhi Chapter
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
X-Man said
Jai Gorkha and GJJM Delhi chapter….its good to see you all come together as a group (delhi chapter)…you all seem to have learnt from your past mistakes…..please take it as a constructive criticism…but the majority of the gorkhas living in and around delhi are not happy with the way the delhi chapter has functioned in the past…they all are supporters of Gorkhaland and willing to provide support…a little bit of intorspection and a change in the approach is required…you will see the difference….!!!!
nepdai said
Jaigorkha,
is GJJM and GJM different? You have used GJJM instead of GJM or GJMM in your postings as well as some places in your site. If the organization is Gorkha Janamukti Morcha then what the second J stands for? Just a query though.
PPA said
Dear Jaigorkha – Sorry but i guess I was not clear enough. I just wanted to know if what was being done was legal or not – Is it legal to use GL number-plates in Delhi or anywhere else in India?
If it is illegal, what would be the penalty?
confused gorkha said
Khai, Darj ma ta implement garnu sakena, Delhi ma hare aba? Sabai jana thikai cha ke?
jaigorkha said
@ Nep Dai,
It is for sure GJM , the mistake were unintentional,(apologies for the mistake made) and J stands for nothing , this is what i want every one to understand , if there is even a little change in the NORMAL, it is noticed, we have been normal all this while , lets be different , a slight change in the initials GJJM “j” made a difference to one person and hence a question asked, this is the pshycology of us humans, a bit of difference in the usual things and our eyebrows are raised , So go ahead make a difference, someone somewhere will notice it and hence this spreads and becomes a usual and normal change, Now dont fall into words, i realise i had made the mistake, its only that there are loads of mails to reply to and plenty of things to sort out , it could have been a typo, Apologies again.
@ PPA
IPC says its illegal , but a revolution says it is allowed and constitution says you have the right to speech and expression , so i hope its clear now you can choose anyone of them, but a request , go ahead and do it , it will make you feel good about yourself and your identity, someone questions you about your identity , this is the first step toi show you have one.The penalty is some money .
@ Confused Gorkha
please dont be confused if you want to make a change happen , start it from yourself , i remember a story my dad used to tell me when i was young, ONce someone went to Gandhi ji with his son and complained about his son eating lots of sugar and not listening to him , whe he said he should stop eating it as it spoils his teeth. Gandhiji on hearing this told the person to come to him with his son after fifteen days , He came again after fifteen days with his son, Gandhiji then told the guy not to eat sugar and told him how this could harm him .
ON hearing this the person asked him why didnt u tell him fifteen days ago , why did u ask us to come here after fifteen days. ” Oh well fifteen days ago i had a habit of eating a lot of sugar” Gandhiji replaid.
Jai gorkha.
Regards
GJM Delhi Chapter
GURUNG HOM said
oh……..its made me really surprised that when i opened this side. gd jub n gd luck. n do not 4get d motto of gurkhas “ITS BETTER THAN DIE TO BE COWARD”
A GURKHA FRM SINGAPORE
PPA said
@Jaigorkha – even though I dont agree with you, I appreciate you explaining your point of view so rationally. I had become accustomed to people swearing and using profanity and showering insults if they did not see eye to eye about issues. Kudos to you for your patience.
I am sure we are headed in the right direction when we know that we have people like you giving the right directions. You come across as committed as well as rational. I hope you stay that way and not get carried away.
Thanks.
PPA said
Barun, I have tried to comment responsibly as far as possible in the past but, I would like to make a complaint about comment No. 162 in this link.
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/about/back-issue-of-beacon/in-newspapers-today/in-newspapers-today/in-himalaya-darpan-today/#comment-10201
I know that you have been very quick to catch and delete profanity from your blog so I am hoping you will take some action.
Thanks
barunroy said
Dear Mr. PPa the offending comment has been deleted and the commentator warned.
Regs
Barun
PPA said
Thank you Barun. I really appreciate it.
RAJA said
Dear Mr. Moderator,
Why only RELAY is banned???
Then you should banned all those including Bengalies & Nepalies bloggers who have used abusive words to each others communities…..Is not it one sided decision Mr. Moderator??? ……
My request to you give Relay a final warning before banning…and give this waring others also…dont show biasness….. as you are a journalist you should not supress others voice (voice means I’m not talking about those abusive remarks)
RAJA said
Mr. Moderator,
some hrs back you have given warning to Mr. the bengali….Now you banned relay…you are choosing only anti gorkhaland bloggers….it is not correct….try to come from biasness and make rules same for all….
RAJA said
Com’on Relay….cool down….
My request to you….dont use abusive words from now…let see what other bloggers are doing…if we see they are not geting banned or warned then we can come to a decision regarding the biasness of this forum…
RAJA said
Com’on Relay….cool down….
My request to you….dont use abusive words from now…let see what other bloggers are doing…if we see they are not geting banned or warned then we can come to a decision regarding the biasness of the moderator…
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Just one question and presume u may be in the dark as I am! after all the initial speeches and talk about checking on bribes taken and building of multi-storied buildings by the ex-GNLF Councillors GJMM were going to cease such properities, bank balances and fund the Gorkhaland Movement but it now seems that this has all died down!! These Ex-GNLF Councillors now seem to have their feet up and enjoying a lifestyle like the South American Drug Cartel members. What is going on?? I am quite curious to know what is happening with these GNLF Crooks!!!
Would be interested to read your comments or from anyone else fighting for the movement
Jai Gorkha
Luen Lama Darjeeling
NB said
I agree with Luen Lama and want to know,so that history wont repeat itself
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
Greetings from Darjeeling! You are certainly right on your assumptions. Nothing has happened. We do remember the files being seized from the former GNLF Councillors’ Houses and the raids carried by GJM and the promised steps thereof, nothing happened, nor from the side of the GJM nor from the Law Enforcement Authorities. A couple of weeks ago I had published about the 89 crore world bank project story… most of the money of the same is also missing. Politicians will be politicians and so will the Government who essentially are politicians themselves…. but the fault mostly lies with the people, I guess, who doesn’t give much about these scams and the politicians and bureaucrats keep on scamming us. We as journs have come out with the info on the ongoing scams every time we can but people read it shrug their shoulders and carry on….who is to be blamed…
I guess until an unless people come out to the streets irrespective of which party they support and demand investigations on these issues nothing will happen. The politicians and the bureaucrats will scam..we will write… the people will read and the whole thing will go on and on…
Regs
jaigorkha said
@PPA , well thanks for ur remarks.
Regrads
GJM Delhi Chapter
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Thanks for your reply and comments to my email asking what has happened to the investigations as regards the Ex-GNLF Councillors’ your reply and comments speak for themselves Politicians will be Politicians and all they think is of ‘Feathering their own Nest’ and as far as the Amjanta is concerned well what can I say!!!! they march away, scream and shout, go on hunger strikes some even get killed but at the end of the day its back to square one if you know what I mean!! The politicians/leaders make speeches get garlended and we still march, scream and get led away like sheep.( havent’ we had this for 21 years!!!!)
Look at Ghising, lucky man sitting in his 4 story rented house with a Z Category Protection WHY??? (was he a President??) I am amazed that no one even has the gumption to put this man behind bars for all his embezzlements and near ruination of our beautiful Darjeeling Hills and did nothing for the betterment of our people for the past 21 years. This man sold us out!!! like Judas did to Jesus!! I gather he is happy, relaxed(no matter what anyone says) and busy writing his biography what a joke!! in any democratic system of government this man should have been put away and brought to trial along with his cronies!!! I ask you!!
I appeal to the present leadership of the GJMM to start the investigations of these people and sort out the mess that they have made, forget about GL number plates, letting the school children go on hunger strikes, putting a bund in all our major towns, it only effects us citizens of the future Gorkhaland and I am confident that once we get GL things such as GL number plates will come in without any problems. Our first priority is for these crooks to be brought to justice for all the things they promised and dident’ do but only thought of lining their own pockets. The present leaders should realize doing nothing to these people will only harm them in the march for Gorkhaland as they are in the background stirring trouble. Once we the people see that justice is being carried out we the people who support the GL Movement will be satisfied and it is then, and only then that we will know that our present leaders mean business for a better future and the upliftment of our people and for GOKHALAND.
Jai Gorkha Brothers
Luen Lama
dd said
well i agree what has been afore said ,and i also agree that nothing will be done even if we get GL , tell me one thing where was Bimal gurung before the Prasant tamang thing happened, there were almost 3 crore votes that was sent to prasanth tamang during the whole episode, where did this money come from, 3 core into 6 is eighteen crore rs, this was somehting that was collected fromt he general public, some gave it willinglyu some were forced, i know some organisation who were forced to keep phone booths sothat free sms’s could be sent, non nepali citizens of darjeeling were harrased tro shell out monye, now people dont give me that crap that GL will be for everybody, tomorrow when we get Gl , we will supress these minority community more then what we have done, have u seen the attitude of our people in Darj itself, they call these minority ppl wht filty names and always disgrace them, we think we are superior to them, sahmeful but fact we do this, we dont realise that they have left their hometown and come so far and are contributing to the economy and growth of the town may be mroe then what we our selves have done, look at the business men in darjeeling, most of the are Marwari’s , bihari’s and bhutia’s , all the huge buildings we have , most of them are of bhutia’s , whre di d they come from, they are not the actual citizens of Darjeeling, to tell u the fact, have a look at mahakla market otr the new rink mall,hoiw many of the shops are owned by a nepali, i am not talking against their wealth or anything, i am talking about our mentality, most of you will be offended by what i wite, but remember one thing, these people who have come from far away have progresed more then us, who are the real citizaens of our town , now the constitution gives us right to settle anywhere in india nd to continue any profession we wnat, look at the contribution they are giving, most of the cloth shop’s we have are owned by marwaris.
aWe have spent all our energy in drinking and acting smart as a superior community, Bumal gurung says this will be for the people , i mean gorkhaland, ask him is he not seeing a dream of being the first chief minister of a new state, is he not willing to earn a lotwhich already he has, the amnount of money collected during the porashant tamang episode, where did it go , where is the account for that, and where is that bimal gurung is getting his money from,
now as i have spoken against him , ma waiting for some rude comments and some inaappropriate language but that is welcome anyways,
When barun wrote something against the GJm he was attacked ad also threatened, about it ,a nyone who is not willing to do what bimal says is an enemy of the community.
QUESTION:
what will u do if you get a state:
where is the money to make it better , u will certainly go to the centre for money as darj has nothing to suppoort its own economy, now if the centre starts making every district a state then we might have more the 20000 state sin india, wow thats gonna be a an amazigncountry to look at,
Funny people dont realise is by doing ll this they are not only wasitng their time but are also stoping their own growth, if we are looking at sikkim and demanding the same, Sikkim is far more advanced in terms of technology and economy, we are nowhere near it, we pride our tea, but does anyone of us knw that its only the taxes we get as a state , the duty on it goes to the central govt, and there in nothign that the tea busines shas to offer the town as almost 100% of the tea is exported.
there are a loads of things whhich one cold write if intente to. anyways continue people continue,
As fools lead thoise who are a bigger fools.
dd said
prashant tamang won the whatever idol competition it was , i dint even vote a single time ,as i think he didnt have quality , there were better singers then what he was, he won just because of votes, that is what we do with our politicians , we dont look at his quality we look atthe popularity, as prasanth tamang did nothing for darjeeling who gave him so much support after winning the comp, same is with bimal gurung or anyone else , noone will do anyting , they are just ment for themselves.
YKS said
Dd,it’s time to unite and we don’t want all these bhashans.
Where will we get the fund?? Where’s Sikkim and msot of NE states getting their funds from?
Come on man!! What are u trying to say?
YKS said
Dd, rasta pakad yaar!! Patli gali!!
dd said
@YKS PATLI GALI,
NE gets it fund from ISI and also Bangladesh, if u dont believ it search for facts, the things that happened in Bangladesh during the riots were funded by RAW an Indian intelligence agency, and Bimal gurung or even Ghising was funded from his own holigans left unleahsed int he town to rob the minority community, u think gorkhaland will be urs, well who are u or who am i , infact we are truly nepali’s and nothing else. so calling ourselves Gorkhali’s is just a propoganda and nothing else, friend open your eyes and see the fact, nepali is a community and not a country citizenship,
Wjhre did u get ur funds from YKS,
Today every oen is interested in getting the state but ask gurung what will he do once he gets it, show us the plans he intends to implement, show us the development he would bring in darjeeling,cmmon man he has no plans, he is just taking advantage of the flow right now, The Prashant tamang fiasco, wake up people wake up, what are u doing by supporting the bands etc, just spoiling ur childrens education, hurting ur economy, Siliguri is gonna be the next economic centre, as it connects nepal , bhutan,the whole of NE. now tell me , what does darjeeling has to offer to siliguri, it is siliguri which offers everything to darjeeling , right from foood demands to other utilities, if siliguri would be removed then darjeeling ppl would find it difficult to survive,
Making Darjeeling a state is out of question ,a nd that also bythe people of the hills, man immpossible, if they do it they are biggest fool. Bimal gurung has more then 12 cases against him , even murder cases, if theny want they can arrest him and even Bimal gurung knows that thnat is why , when he had a meeting wiht us few weeks ago he said that he would go underground and then would take non violence as a step to get it , ask him if he didnt say that , all of our darjeeling pprimary teachers were peresent there when he said that, ask him if he can deny it that he said it.
P.J. said
@DD
sorry to break the news to you, i dont buy your reasoning regarding Gorkhaland and the NE states. Your tone and the direction of your last post, i think clearly shows your intentions. I have seen a lot of posters here who pretend to be Gorkhas but are not, remember “watermelons” during the 80’s?, i would say these are “cyber watermelons” except for a few valid speculations, i think the rest are cuckoo stuff! The north east states are funded by the isi, good joke!
dd said
@PJ
Poor Joke, u think this is a joke, where do u think they get their ak47 from, where do u think they get their grenades and bombs from, where do u think the funding simes from, m not here to clarify thinkgs, i know so i am telling u , if u want complete information there is RIGHT to INFORMATION act 1991 , just spend 50 and get all the info u want about all the operations that have been done in the NE and the reports and the result.
Go for iut man, if u want fdunding for it let me know will send it personally to u through Barun.
And by the way i am not a gorkha i am a nepali and thats the name of my community, if u know so much kindly enlighten me with the knowledge as this small intelligence in myh brain does not let me digest this thing about GORKHA’s/
B Lepcha said
murkha se bhoot bhi darey…
RAJA said
I dont think NE states are geting official funds from ISI but their militant outfits are getting fund from ISI…it’s true and everyone knows that…it’s not a matter of GL or not GL..So come out from personal or communal ego…..and admit that NE Militants are getting funds from ISI…..
dd said
that is the point i have been trying to make for the last few talks, i have never mentioned states are getting funded,m talking about the revolutionary groups, yes theya re getting funded and they have been getting that for long, i am afraid , that even pur Darjeeling miught be affected in such a way, when we have ;leaders like Biumal Gurung, iu dont know why has he changed his colors, i am sure he has some dangerous intentions behind it .
Itwill not take even an hour when the whole hill starts burning , knowing the kind of support he is carrying reight now Bimal gurung can do this anytime, it s just a amtter of tiume, Choor choori se jae hera feri se na jaye, i am not saying this because i dont want GL , fine i would be happy wiht it , but i am scared of the kind of leaders who are leading the revolution.
Someone with authority please clear my doubts i will be happy to be assured that nothgint s gonna go worng,
B Lepcha said
dd Says:
July 11, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Someone with authority please clear my doubts i will be happy to be assured that nothgint s gonna go worng,
DDji the only person I think who can clear your doubts is Mr YK Shresthaji.
RAJA said
Friend,
What would be in future that no one can predict…hope for best….No one want blood bath….But from this BLOG ROOM one think I can realise this “Bengali-Gorkha” communal hatred is going to be danger for all…..
I can pray for peace from here….Rest of things in your hand who lives in darjeeling /siliguri…
P.J said
Dear Barun,
as i am usually outdoors and use my cell to participate here. Navigation is very cumbersome and takes a lot of time. Would it be possible to add page numbers of a particular topic to jump to a specific page, maybe we could those just below the prev & next links. What do you say?
Luen said
Guys,
lets not be communial after all we are all Indian Citizens, no matter what our communities may be, lets all unite fr the cause and be one after all I am sure 99% of us want Gorkhaland! lets be sensible and not single out any community.
All I say is that let us hope & pray that our present leaders do the right thing and continue to work in a peaceful manner to obtain Gorkhaland. By abusing communities who are not Nepalies/Gorkhas’ is very silly and childish. Many of these communities have been here for as long as 3 generations and I am sure support the cause in more than one way!!
Lets be sensible my brothers
Luen Lama
Luen said
YKS – Tau ko ho??? Gorkhali ho bhaney tero naam dinu kina darako !! Hami ta ASLI Darjeelingay ho – tau jasto Gorkha naam dinu daraudina. Mero blog bujis ki bujinas ? Eso bichar ma ta tailey bujena justo po lagyo!! Mero bichar ma ta tau po bahira ko justo lagyo, karan, MULA shabda NEPAL ko harulay matra chalau cha Darjeeling ko harulay haina.
Bhetnay bhanay bhetung mo ta Darjeeling ma nai chu hayrung tau kusto Gorkhali rahecha – Khukuri boknay ki Macha khanay !
Mero blog ma talai ta mailay gocheyko chuina – tero problem kay ho ? To justo jehgne lay ta hamro Gorkhaland ko naam bigarchas matrai. Tero ilaka ma tau bas, hamro ilaka ma hamilai basnu dey.
JAI GORKHA – JAI GORKHALAN
Luen Lama
Shahensha said
bhinna-bhinnai ilaka maa base pani ladai chai eutai hunuparchha parchha, lakshya eutai hunuparchha tyo ho GORKHALAND.
Gorkhaland bhai sake pachhi ta teen paane khandai ladoula ni hou. Tara ahile ghari chai hoina hai natra aru haschha hai.
PJ said
Luen jiu,
tapai ley alik overreact gareko justo lagyo malai. Yo ilaka ko kura haina, yo sabbai Gorkha haru jhaha pani cha, yo sabbai ko lagi ho. There have been many bloggers coming here with Gorkha names, with the intention of confusing the readers. Mo pani Darjeeling ko nai ho, taruh i dont agree with your last post at all. Sad, that you think that way.
Bengal said
As a bengali and resident of West Bengal I just want to request all my fellow bengali and gorkhali friends who are not at all residing or never a inhabitant of Bengal not do any childish act and throw abusive remark to each others….mind it genle men you are not from bengal….here in north bengal we and gorkhalis are staying together more than centuries….we all are having problem with our communist poor government …. we know north bengal is not at all developed….these all the issues can be sort out on table ….and politicians are doing their duty to sort those probs…..but I am requesting you people (Bengalis + Gorhalis..outsider)to act as a mature citizen….Dont provocate others by saying any abusive word so that whole community get hurt by that…..
Just realise these kind of nonsense acts can ignite fuels and as a consequence innocent peoples will burn….Yesterday I saw some video clips from youtube and realised what could be the results if a full fledge riots break out….
So acts as a good citizens….
(Yesterday I was got so hurt that I decided to leave this blog room but then I realised I have some duty to carry out…..I am out of country that doesn’t mean I should stay indifferent)
Luen said
Hi Barun,
My apologises for the couple of Nepali swear words used by me on my blog number 137 of the 12th, I had no intentions of writing in such a manner and now consider myself an idiot for having succumbed to gutter lanuage. What I had written in my blog number 135 was just to caution us all not to be communial, after all we all want the same thing and that is a peaceful Gurkhaland not bloodshed with the other communities who have been living in our besides us for generations if you know what I mean!! but I don’t think he or she understood what I have tried to put acrss in my blog They thinks that I am an outsider but little do they know that I am a true blue Gorkhali and have been one longer then them.
If you read his reply to me on his blog Number 136 you and the other bloggers will understand my feelings and why I have replied in the manner that I have written.
Apologises again for the gutter language
Rgs
Luen Lama
PS: If anyone thinks that I am an Outsider then they are most welcome to contact me and I will be happy to meet them and they can see for themselves as to what community I come from I am true blue Darjeelingay. Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Jyoti T M said
I applaud Bengal/Raja’s stand and also Luens’s. Poor Communist governance has already ruined the culture and society of this region. Both Gorkhalis and Bengalis have been known to be decent polite people. Ministers like Ashok Bhatta and Subhash Chakra have made the Bengalis so communal and racist-minded. In retaliation the gorkhas have also become vitriolic. I had also been affected till Mozo opened my eyes. The discomfort is also percolating btween Gorkhas and Bengalis in Delhi. We are all silently aware that there is a war going on between our people. Anything which spreads like a virus is bad for everybody.
MOJO said
hey barun pliz rectify the problem with Darpan post yaar.there’s no post for today.
keep up the good job
regards,
mojo
YK Shrestha said
(Luen Says:
July 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
YKS – Tau ko ho??? Gorkhali ho bhaney tero naam dinu kina darako !! Hami ta ASLI Darjeelingay ho – tau jasto Gorkha naam dinu daraudina. Mero blog bujis ki bujinas ? Eso bichar ma ta tailey bujena justo po lagyo!! Mero bichar ma ta tau po bahira ko justo lagyo, karan, MULA shabda NEPAL ko harulay matra chalau cha Darjeeling ko harulay haina.
Bhetnay bhanay bhetung mo ta Darjeeling ma nai chu hayrung tau kusto Gorkhali rahecha – Khukuri boknay ki Macha khanay !
Mero blog ma talai ta mailay gocheyko chuina – tero problem kay ho ? To justo jehgne lay ta hamro Gorkhaland ko naam bigarchas matrai. Tero ilaka ma tau bas, hamro ilaka ma hamilai basnu dey.
JAI GORKHA – JAI GORKHALAN
Luen Lama)
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Luen Lama,
What the hell do you mean to say by all you have written??
In post no. 136, I had responded to some Dd. (his post nos. 122,123,126,128,131).
Malai ke ko dar?? I have been blogging with my original name, it’s only recently that I started giving only my initials. I am not from Nepal. Khusi lagyo sunera ki ta ASLI darjeelinge bhaner. Mo chahi ASLI Assam ko ho, bujhis?? Colonel Villa (Junior Municipal School) ani St. Robert’s padheko, bujhis? What the hell do you mean man? I wonder what’s wrong with you.
You can contact me at 09810611240 Mr. Luen Lama. Do u think I’m scared? Leap before you jump. I had not written anything against you. If you are the same person using Dd as the blog name, then go to hell. I still don’t subscribe to your views. Jhegneharu, when u want Gorkhaland, u need the support of all Gorkhas. My big B- – - – S to you man. Call me if you want to.
Nisha said
Yam daju..great that you have responded back to him..!! I was wondering as why you have been keeping quiet for this comment..
but what i dont understand is Nepal ko nai bhaye pani whats the big deal hoina ra..aakhir ma barun roy le bhaneko nai cha..this blog is meant for Gurkhas all over the world..and Nepal ma ta jhan there are lots of gurkhalis prevailing..gorkhaland ta matrai gurkhas haru ta simeet pakkai pani chaina..
but anyway dear brother..i like your guts..keep it up bro!
YK Shrestha said
Nishoo, I saw his comment just today only and I was kinda surprised because I did not write anything against him. I got confused, went back to the posts again and again and saw if I had written anything against him. I confirmed myself first and responded. I had written against someone by the name “Dd” and not against this nut. I wonder what made this nut to jump the gun unless had had been writing as “Dd” too.
Bryan said
How you doing guys?
It is a great feeling that this movement is different than the movements of the 80s. It is good to see ppl discussing in the net where ppl from all over the world can read and comment.
JTM said
Hey what is this asli Darjeelingay stuff? here I am trying to connect all the Gorkhas. Is this feeling an attribute to more or just Luen. I came across one Mozo who had similar problems. Esto na hos ki bholi Gorkhaland payo pacchi hammi aru Gorkhali haru lai timiharu ley Gorkha haino bhannu thalos.
Nisha said
Bryan..
are you asking all the bloggers…? well! on behalf of all the bloggers…i would like to do the honour..of responding..
we are doing absolutely great!!
oh yes, the agitation of 80s and of now..there is a much much big difference…we were school kids of class 3, 4 when the Gorkhaland agitation broke during 80 and now at 2008 agitation we all are grown ups..!!maturity level ta purai ako cha and we do know what Gorkhaland issue is all about..!
Nisha said
JTM Says:
July 15, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Hey what is this asli Darjeelingay stuff? here I am trying to connect all the Gorkhas. Is this feeling an attribute to more or just Luen. I came across one Mozo who had similar problems. Esto na hos ki bholi Gorkhaland payo pacchi hammi aru Gorkhali haru lai timiharu ley Gorkha haino bhannu thalos.
HO JYOTI DIDI..TAPAILE THIK POINT OUT GARNU BHAYO..Gurkhalees are not just limited to Darjeeling ni hoina..? kamti ta rishutdaina ta esto kura sunda..i too stay in Kathmandu but me too is a Gurkhali woman ni..ke ko darjeelingey, kalimpungey, kurseongey ko ratt lagairako…tyaso bhaye ta what about gurkhalees from all over the world..tinaru chai ke KAANCHI AMA KO santaan hun..too much bhayo abo ta! sick of hearing mo aeta ko gurkhali, to aeta ko bhanera..
Nisha said
THE PPL WILL LAUGH WHEN THEY SEE US FIGHTING HERE HAI..SO BETTER WATCH OUT ALL THE GURKHALI FRIENDS..!! THINK MORE THAN 10 TIMES BEFORE WRITING COMMENTS..HAMI KAHA KO HO BHANERA..SOME PPL MUST REALLY BE LAUGHING THEIR HEARTS OUT HAI..
YK Shrestha said
Dear JTMji,
Sometimes I do wonder why I’m supporting GL with stupid people like Mojo and Luen around.
Darjeelingeys think that they are superior than other Gorkhas I do not know which world they are in.May be they are thinking that after the formation of GL, all the Gorkhas will come there to settle down. My foot!!
If I ask, what have the Darjeelingeys achieved?? Gorkhas are in majority there, so it’s obvious that they have three MLAs there. Compare that to Assam where we are not concentrated in one particular area. We have two MLAs, one MP and the speaker of the Assam Assembly is a Gorkha, Sri Tanka Bahadur Rai. The treasurer of Assam Congress is a Gorkha.
We have Gorkhas across all the sections in Assam doing well, that is what we are proud of and that is the survival of the fittest.
Nisha said
Good Yam Daju..Good!
mero man ma je thiyo..you have spoken that out…!
what a relief!
Nisha said
HEEEEEEEEERO HUNU KHOJEKO HOLA NI..DARJEELINGEY BHANERA..!!
aardee said
YKS/JTM its good to see your feedback on members of our community in other parts of India besides Darj & surrounding hills…Apna toh hisaab ekdum simple hain…hum Gorkha hain aur hum aap ki izzat karte hain is ka matlab yeh nahin ki hum kisi ki bezzati sehange.
Also, I think Luen & DD ko unanswered question edkdum valid thiyo…ki Gorkhaland ko lagi GJM ko game plan ke ho…. the commet about BG publicly declaring that he will go underground and then carry on a violent movement sounded ominious.
Also the question that what is the status on the clamp down on corruption is moot? But then we must not forget who will take action. The people with GJM are the same that were with the GNLF…so ab kaun kis ki khabar lega?
JTM said
Wo! Nisha is from Kathmandu, YKS is from assam, Aardee is from Dehradun and me from Himachal☼—fighting for Gorkhas and Gorkhaland in Darjeeling on this blog
JTM said
And Barun who is a Bengali. Wo!
Madhesi said
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Mero Madhesi Bhaiyo aur Baheno,
Nepla ka Madhesio hum ee aap logo pe naaj hain….hum bihari aur UP bhaiyo ka full support hain aap logo ke liye…aap log ladiye wo maoist se aur chin liziye aapna hauk…..AAk din aapna sanpa pura hoga….apna Madhesi State for we madhesis….
THE GORKHA CONSCIENCE said
THE MASTER STRATEGIST……………. Bimal Gurung,sixth passed taxi driver may be a master strategist and a woer of the Nari Morcha and the general masses – but he is also a grave sinner….. His record has shown that he is a murderer, extortionist, womanizer, cheat and a thief…… While the Gorkhas are awed and intimidated by his meteoric rise to power for the achievement…. let us not forget the rise of Hitler and his strategies…. BREAKING NEWS IS THAT: On 1st July 08, his house at Takvar was gheraoed for making yet two more innocent girls pregnant when he already has two wives….. It was conveniently hushed up. WHERE ARE ALL THE “INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS FROM THE TELEGRAPH, THE STATESMAN, TIMES OF INDIA, THE HINDU, ETC………….Using Bimal Gurung currently may be a good strategy to achieve Gorkhaland by the GORKHAS……….and the communist WB govt deserve just such a leader to out-maneuver them …. but after that he must be eliminated as a sinner for the greater good of the Gorkhas or else they will be doomed…..Time alone will tell as we see this dreaded story of the RISE and FALL of Bimal Gurung…. All Indians keep a keen eye open for what is unfolding……
-THE GORKHA CONSCIENCE
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Gorkha Conscience, it might be a good idea for you to substantiate your allegation before going about it! It might be libelous for you to comment like that. Remember every comment is solely individual for his or her comment.
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
dear barun,
Kaal ker kichu topics ami pacchi na, purono topics gulo ki apni remove kore den??
aardee said
On 1st July 08, BGs house at Takvar was gheraoed…I seem to remember reading this info…
Nisha said
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Mero Madhesi Bhaiyo aur Baheno,
Nepla ka Madhesio hum ee aap logo pe naaj hain….hum bihari aur UP bhaiyo ka full support hain aap logo ke liye…aap log ladiye wo maoist se aur chin liziye aapna hauk…..AAk din aapna sanpa pura hoga….apna Madhesi State for we madhesis….
HEY MADHESI..
EVEN MY SUPPORT IS FOR THE TERAI PPL AT NEPAL…I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TIME AND AGAIN HUMILIATED BY SOME OF THE NEPALESE FROM NEPAL..I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY MOCKINGLY AND INSULTINGLY CALL THE TERAI PPL..”AEY MADHISE!!!”bichara tyahi madhise bhaiharule kasto dukha garera ghar ko dhoka samma sabji cycle ma rakhera bechcha..ajahi uniharulai nai insult garcha…khai kahile sikne ho..aeta nepal ko nepali harule BANI BEHORA..
YK Shrestha said
Where is Luen Lama?
Vanished?? Waiting for your call Mr. Luen Lama. I’ll keep this topic active until I hear from him.
Jyoti T M said
Nisha
I appreciate yr feelings for the madhesis. There has been an attitude problem. Can you imagine even Nepalis like us from India were called ‘madhesis’ in Kathmandu?
The terai plays a major role historically. Called the granary of Nepal, though nobody wanted to live there because it was a malaria-infested area, everybody fought for it. In 1815, the East India Company wrested it from Nepal. In 1857, the same British gave it back to Jung Bahadur Rana. It continued to be a major tiger shooting area for Rana and his Briish friends. Nobody really cared much for the people’s development. To some extent they respected the Shahs who earned their affection.
Today and tomorrow, the Terai will continue to be a thorn in the Maovadis side.
Nisha said
But YK daju..
Luen lama.luen nai bhayera aauncha ta..i doubt..coz mero bichaar ma eutai manche 2,3 kisim ko naam le blog garda raicha..asti RAJA naam bata..euta maanche le pura nepali slang words..mostly used in Nepal..Himalayan times darpan ma..by the name RAJa..now i am in confusion ….is this the same RAJA who supports bengalese..? coz his Nepali slang was damn fluent..ofcourse i complained to Barun Roy and he has deleted the comment..
Nisha said
Jyoti didi..
tyo Nepali haru ko aankha guchcha le baneko thiyo hola ni ta..ani sabai lai madhise nai dekhcha..they do have lot of attitude problem..but again sab dekhawati..!!
oh yes! you are right..terai does play a major role..when strikes occur at terai region..the so called Nepalese from nepal actually faces a crucial problem, ahile ta nepali lai pani terai ppl have started calling..”Aey Pahaadey” now this sounds funny here but the ironical remark thus made has put a serious impact for both the terai and hill ppl..i just pray and hope everything settles down in a peaceful way..
all these calling of names madhise, pahaadey, blah! blah! should come to an end..
kuldipak said
Dear Barun.
SOS. Just a few days ago i lost a very precious book which i had bought during the last Gorkhaland agitation (80’s.)This book is by Tanka Bh. Subba. Any idea if i can get a reprint of the said book?
Oxford does not have it.
Can any of your readers help me
YK Shrestha said
Dear Luen Lama,
Pls call me. I want to hear from u, ur grudges against me.
rgds
YK Shrestha aka YKS
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Kuldipak,
Greetings! Will try to find the book and get back to you. There must be a copy at the Nepali Sahitya Sammelan and some of the friends. Could you give me the exact title of the book as it might help me find the book faster?
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Dear Shrestha Ji,
Dont’ worry I will get back to you in due course, many thanks for your contact number my Asom Gorkha bhai.
Luen Lama
YK Shrestha said
Luen, let me know what was your grudge. Go thru’ the blogs. I had not responded to you or abused you. I had responded to some Dd’s remarks. Have you bothered to go thru’ the entire blogs? Or is it you are still not able to understand? I was expecting an apology from you,not this threatening mail. What do u mean by “Don’t worry I will get back to you in due course”, why not call just now? Or else, give me your number and I’ll explain u. It seems you have not gone thru’ the blogs and have just replied to me.
YK Shrestha said
Luen Lama,
Blog no. 136 of mine was a reply to Dd (can u read and comprehend??).I had responded to the blogs of some Dd. (his post nos. 122,123,126,128,131).
Just because, ur blog was no. 135, u assumed in ur own wisdom that I had responded to you.
I see a hint of sarcasm in your reply too. (many thanks for your contact number my Asom Gorkha bhai).
If you want GL, you need our support. When the issue of GL comes up, we will be counted. Have you understood? I’m not going to come to Darjeeling and snatch your livelihood. Try to rise above the petty things of life. Darjeelinge bhaner matrai furukka bhayer matrai hudaina ta.
Luen said
Dear Sherestha Ji,
Before I go on any further APOLOGISES from my side, I agree with you that I read your blog and realise that i have accused you for having thought that you had replied to my blog when actually it was to Dd’s blog. Happy! and I dont’ mean this in sarcasm!!!
I would deinately like to meet up with you my friend and hopefully when my regiment is transferred back to Assam in the very near future we will definately meet especially now that I have your contact number. For your info let me tell you that I also have friends and relatives scattered around Assam right from Dibrugrah, Tinsukia, Golaghat,Tezpur and even in Guwahati so I also know the support that we have from Assam.
I see that you are an ex-St.Robert’s student,funny you should mention this as I am also an ex-student from good old St. Robert’s, we must and will definately meet over a good Assamese lunch or dinner and discuss the GL issue in-depth in the not too distant future.
Regarding your last para where you have mentioned about coming to Darjeeling and snatching my liveihood, well I don’t think that we should worry about this ever happening! not that it worries me in any way I have risen up petty matters as you put it and even apolgised to you. The matter is now dead & buried. Tara bhai Darjeelingay bhanera matrai phurkay chuina la.No sarcasm added.
Keep up the good blogging and hoping to meet up with you in the very near future in some Assamese Town or city remember we have a date!!
Jai Gorkha
Luen Lama
J T M said
Chalo ramro bhaiyo Luen le atmosphere clear gardiyo. Good for you Luen.
Now that Mozo has to show his colours. Is he a Gorkha or some fraud speaking the language? Theba the warrior indeed! You are no warrior—Theba or Mozo!
YK Shrestha said
Luen, that’s better. You could have simply said that you misread my blog in the very first place.That would have certainly brought an end to this chapter. I like to blog sensibly and do not want to trample on others foot nor do I want others to do so un-necesarily.
Yes, I’m happy and it certainly hurt me when you went boom-boom with your slangs. It doesn’t hurt you/anybody if you react after going thru’ the blogs properly.
You seem to be an army man and I’m sure you would have heard of Rangapara, Lokhra and all as these places are nearby Tezpur.
I’m even more happy to know that u r a Robertian, I passed out in 1977 and me and my elder brother were famously known as Shrestha brothers from Assam. (Ain’t blowing my own trumpet though).
Well I certainly would like to meet you over a Gorkha dinner and yes I’m based at Delhi. Give me a trinkle whenever u come down to Delhi.
From my side, now this issue is over and buried for good.
Nisha Titung Tamang said
THANK GOD! THE DISPUTE BETWEEN YAM DAJU AND LUEN IS OVER.. AM EXTREMELY HAPPY..!!
aardee said
GJM Delhi Chapter…re GL number plates and no action taking place in Darj & surroundng hills, am told by one of the advisors that is because the police is scared to do any thing & the police are with the people. To not create a law and order situation in which the police will be totally outnumbered 1:5000 atleast.
In Delhi it will definitely not work & there is no question that the right to “freedom of expression” does not extend to changing number plates at will in the country’s capital or anywhere in India for that matter. Rule is rule & bhool is bhool…n bhool ke liye jurmana by Delhi Police will be taken in full measure.
Do not equate what Gandhiji did to what BG (G = Gurung not Gandhi) is doing.
Luen said
Hi YKS,
just to let you know brother that I will be off the air for a few days – duty calls if you know what I mean!!!
Will get back to you when I am back on base.
Take care and regards.
Luen Lama
dd said
my comments triggered so much of waste coneversation between people, freids apologies for the same. but my stand my questions remain the same, what treatement do u give to the people who are not nepalis/gorkhalis,they are called madhesis in Nepal, madise is Darjeeling, have not u humilated them like anything, have mnot each one of the gorkhas looted them in a while or so, hove u not treated them as if they were of some inferior species, and this time you are asking their help, i saw the rally in delhi and nto even a single non nepali/gorkhali was there, where are the bihari’s . marwari’s and bengalis doing arent they supporting it , i didnt see it at all.
Now again my questions?
Whre are the funds commin from
what will u do with a state
when siliguri and other parts are forming the integral part of the satate why name it gorkhaland why not somehting else, and why only the gorkhas are fighting for it.
What did Prasant tamang do for Darjeeling , when each and every person had to shell out money for his success, he didnt wi because he was good , he won because he got votes and for the votes, people we re forced to give that money , and if u gorkhalis were doing it for you love for your own kind and its identity then where ru rightnow when one more is in need of your votes and this time it is some Thapa on NDTV imagine, cmmon uys vote for him do it , he is of ur kind,
What assurance can u goive that the new state when built will not be dominated by useless leaders like we have right now, everyone is just thinkng about himself, (political gimmics) nothing else, you have been treating the other community people very cheaply and now today when u need a state you tell them every one is a gorkhali, HYPOCRITS, thats the word i have for you,
when i was in darjeeling i have seen people of other community being looted, and hey no FIR’s cause they ahev to stay there and earn their livlihood, PANI ME REHKE MAGARMACH SE BAIR< h can that happen, .
Someone sais we are fighting for the gorkhali’s of darjeeling do u know thereare families of other community who have lived there for more the 200 years infct fromt he time when the roads were not even properly designed, what do u call them GOrkhali’s or still people from other community.
Every oine is a gorkhali here . funny, so eevry punjabi who lives in Bihar is a bihari, or all those people who live in banlore are banglorians, funny.
WHy are we forcing them to call themselves gorkhali’s , cmmon man , all the strikes are happening and all those things thast are taking place , most of it is forced , and no one can raise a question on that , i salute the guts of that old man there , i dont know what he has one to darjeeling but man he is the one with the balls.
dd said
all u nepali jjhypocryte u think we dont understand ur gimmics, we know everything , u thinnku can call urself gorhkhalis and get wehat u want u think the cenbtral govt is such a foolt aht it will make every distrcit as a state then imagine how many states will we have more then 30000 astates\what percent is darjeeling of whole of Inida
not evn 1 percent, ass that they will make ita state/
hot4coolbt said
Dd,
Its better you write in Bangla. Your Benglish is TERRIBLE. Now about your Questions:
Where CPI(M) gets FUNDs? Give us details & we will come up with all details of GJMM.
What have you DONe in last 30(Thirty) years of your RULE in Bengal? In Calcutta after British left only 2(Two) Govt. Schools were built.
what do you expect in in North Bengal there is no Safe Drinking Water yet in SMC area.
This we DEFINITELY WOULD NOT DO when we get Gorkha land.
Your last Question, I failed to UNDERSTAND.
Rest in Next COMMENT
dd said
@hot4coolbt
Dear Friend m sorry my benglish is bad causer i dont understand bengla neither can i speak one, banne kura yo ho ki ma ta bangla jandina , tara nepali chai ramro bolnu ani padnu sakchu hai, timi le saathi bujne kura ye ho ki , jati pane gare , tara Gl payera pani kei hune chaine.pahila GNLF le council pao , ke chai farka padyo hai, abbo BG le state paune hare , luta payo hare , ke chai garne tyo payera. identity , ke ko identity , kasto identity, most of us who are in darjeeling are from nepal, ani teti kura bujne ko cha ra, darjeeling ke maximum janta ta, nepali ho , ani bihari marwadi ,ra butias haru pani ho, ra muni dhobi talla ra butcher basti ko hamro muslim bhai haru pani cha, tini haruke security chai ko le sochne , cpim ko paisa ta c=hore ra aako ho , tyo sabai hami lai tha cha hai, tini harule ta bridha pension ko paisa pani khai dincha, what i want to ask is has notn this thing happend in darjeeling too , wiht the gnlf being in power. lutyo ta hamilai. ahile darjeeling ko bato pani thik chaina , darjeeling dekhi siliguri aune samay 3.50 minute laghhcha hai , state payera 5 ghanta chai na lagos hai,
more int eh next comment, you have every right to getr angry at my comments but trey to understand my stand on this, i knwo we all are hypocrytes as we know these polkiticians are not to be trusted but still we do what they tell us to. tellme how will it benefit the general public.
wiull we get the recognisation as the ppl of sikkim get, their people have amazing gift s from the govt will we get it .????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
Tattu said
Dd jhegne,
Over
dd said
@tattu
Dear Friends do you know what does Tattu mean , anyways forget it i am not here to talk about personal names , but for your knowledge it also means Khachhar in HIndi , and tis a mix breed of Ghoda and gadha, hope u understand where u stand, anyways talkinmg about me bbeing a gorkhali or not, very well i am not a gorkhali and i hate thiose people calling me a gorkha, i am a proud nepali and i beive in the fact that this fact is being plagmarised by the General Bg, i hate the population for that.Where did gorkhas originate from , there is nothing like gorkha , all the lepchas ,and the tamangs are supposed to be gorkhas and i believe also the gurung sabout which i am not sure , i dont know i think barun can help us in this, but the rest , where and how did they become gorkhas, i am chettri (parnami) and believe me i know that i am a nepali and i am proud of being one, nepali is not a natiojnality but an i detity, when a crow tries to be a swan it not only losses its own identity but also never gets the one which it goes after.
@ hot4coolbt
My another question which you failed to understand was, if you looka the map which has been made for new gorkhaland , that show s the reas where the bengalis are there, and their populaqtion is more then what we have in darjeeling and others combined, then why should the new state be called gorkhaland why not east bengal , and why should , Darjeeling be the capitalm which is proposed , why not siligri , which is economically so strong, and why arnt the bengalis fightin for it , if you want it you have to change the direction of the wabes, which for sure we pahade lathuas will never understand.
iwitness said
Hello Barun bhai……..been a long time since I heard from you as there seems to be no communication from your side,apart from the feedback on Telangana and Nepal political scenario your blog seems very subdued.What’s the problem?Something seems to be amiss.
Regards.
J T M said
What is a parnami Chhetri?
Tattu said
Dd,
La ta parnami, pahade lathua haru ko majhma tah nathe euta budhimani ayechas. kaha bata utpati bhayeko hola??
dd said
lol,
i like ypur attitude
Tattu said
Huncha Budhhimani! Bhayankar timi parnami!!
mozo said
Dear barun,
Greetings to you.yaar, i have posted few comments to you about the Darpan postings before,but it seems like you did not find time to read them.Yaar,i’m not being able to find most of the pages of Darpan for quite some time now.So, my request to you is fix this problem(post of Himalaya Darpan)once and for all,please.
And today’s(22/07/08) Darpan is not even opening.
Kiran Lama said
Greetings Barun,
Though I am orignially from Kathmandu – now settled in Gangtok – am an avid visitor to Darjeeling and have made many wonderful friends over the years in that beautiful hill station.
Your blog is the easily the best and most informative on what is happening in the hills in north bengal.
Keep up the good work! Please let me know anytime you plan a trip to Gangtok or for that matter anywhere in Sikkim.
Much regards,
Kiran
Luen said
My deepest condolences to the family of Ms. Pramila Sharma, let not her death be a sacrifice in vain for a better cause.
SHE IS ONE BRAVE GORKHA AND WE SHOULD SALUTE HER MEMORY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Luen Lama
mozo said
hi barun,
greeetings to you
man i could not find today’s Darpan,yaar.
could you pliz update it?
thanks and regards
mahesh
mozo said
i was rong,barun.i found it.sorry to bother you.
hey mate,you deleted all my comments to JTM,may i know y?
how can i now reply to him coz i don’t find one from him either.
mozo said
it was just an incident,man
even if i die during these times while on a procession of GJMM,i’d be called a Saheed.
but i don’t think i’ve done anything worth to be honored as a Saheed.
these days it’s somewhat become a fashion.
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun,
Have you closed down the post for Darjeeling Burns..as I wanted to post some comments..??
Regards,
Nisha
barunroy said
Dear Miss Tamang,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Due to excessive abuse and the sheer number of comments on the post (causing severe strain on the server), the said forum had to be closed.
Regs
Barun
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun,
Thanks!
Actually I got hold of Raja and Rubin at different post..so I have posted my comment..so me feeling light as a feather..
I am sorry for the past abuses..but again I too have used (no too the extent of getting banned)some real abusive words..but this is a promise..will be my last one..as such I expect forgiveness from your side..
Thanks again!
Nisha
Petrisha lama said
Dear Barun Da,
I came through your site while surfing various other sites and found it very interesting specially i liked the collection of the books you have authored and would like to buy Potraits of life, Dream Flowers and Fallen Cicada will it be avaiable in book stores of sikkim as i am from gangtok and unfortunately this time i am not visiting Darjeeling,If yes i would like to know the names of the stores.I will be there from 9th August till 24th August.Or if theres anyother means that you can do me a favour.
with sincere reagards
Petrisha Lama
barunroy said
Dear Miss Lama,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you for your interest in my books. The books are at this moment not available in Sikkim. How ever you can order it online through The Himalayan Beacon. If you are interested please let me know. Fallen Cicada is presently available in DVD format. You can find the prices of the books on this site.
Regs
Barun
Midnight Oil said
Dear Nisha, JTM Di, Adree Di, Yam Da,
“Don’t wrestle with pigs, because you just get dirty and the pigs like it.”
Regards,
Bishal Rai ‘Kirath’
rubin said
So here is all where “Gud” people meet and Nisha starts her apologies….gud…
RAJA said
@Nisha,
Wht’s up sister Nisha!!!! what you had written to me?? I’m not finding those post (mostly they are already deleted) …by d way anything wrong from me!!!….I didn’t think I have written anything bad to you …so what’s the reason of your anmoity towards me??
Pemsang_D said
The recent acts violence of the GJM aginst its former partners in the GNLF sets at rest all doubt about the real agenda of the GJM. The GJM basically wants power to be consolidated in its hands and does not believe in democracy. Leave aside any other opinion or view regarding the composition of the hill state, it does not even want any competition from its former party GNLF.
These power hungry people masquerading as leaders of the hill people and their goondas are supposed to provide leadership to the proposed new seperate state… We should beware of such elements before they grow big.
The hill people certainly deserve better than such criminals and lumpens.
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Barun,
How are you?
I am intetested in monthly subscription of Darjeeling times in English Edition- hard copy to be delivered at New Delhi?
Can you please help me in that?
Regards
Joseph Chamling
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Barun,
How are you?
I am interested in monthly subscription of Darjeeling times in English Edition- hard copy to be delivered at New Delhi?
Can you please help me in that?
Regards
Joseph Chamling
dd said
@Pemsang
I agree with what you say and this is what i have been shpouting in this blog for long, evry few people have understood what i have tried to say, infact none, they think if u speak against GJM u r speking against our own kind and our own homeland, but they fail to understand that GJM after all is a politcal party and nothing else, they have hidden intentions and hidden agenda , which very few people will understand, if this was the need of the people why did they need a match stick like Bimal gurung, why wasnt this need seen oini the normal people before he started this confused and fruitless war against our own people. meaning less demands i believe.
Barun why dont u pout some light into it, but heyu beware , ur there in Darjeeliong and if u write anything against the party you will be attacked as the way u have been earlier. And when u die you will get nothign else but few khadas and condolences and nothing else.
Jai gorkha
(without the feeling of patriotism towards GJM)
aksh said
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/contact-me-2/post.php?action=edit&post=5422 link not working ya
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Chamling,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I have sent details on your request at your mail.
Regs
Barun
ardnepuhb said
First thing I do each day is to log onto this website. Good job, keep it up.
One complaint: Why do you post all your pictures in gif format. Using gif for photographic images is such a blunder. You should use jpg, the picture quality would be much better and you wont get the dotty images that you get by using a photo image as gif file. Oh, the file size would be much lower as well.
Keep the beacon shining.
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you very much for you support and participation. I will most definitely start posting pictures in JPG format from now on. Thank you for pointing out the flaws of the GIF format.
Regs
Barun
Laird said
ANATOMY OF BENGALI LIBERALS
Educated and Westernized Bengalis take pride in their Liberal beliefs. They often go out of their way to argue on behalf of those who are harming the whole group – so long as individuals they are left alone. This is really an expression of physical COWARDICE and GREED. By championing the illegitimate Gurkhaland agitation Burung Rai has shown himself to be one such “Bengali” liberal. And his motivation ? He evidently wants to live in Darjeeling, in spite of being a half – Bengali – and use the publicity / notoriety that association with the Gurkhaland AGITATION brings to his website to make a few bucks selling his half – baked books.
J T M said
Laird
You are being remembered in Anti Gorkhaland…something about Nisha and you
RAJA said
ha ha ha….do it fast…
rubinn said
Barun..thnks a lot for this site…felt gud alwys…i want 2 buy some of ur books…but i am in uk temporarily..so i think it wud be prident to get it once i am back in india….god bless u and carrii on the gud work of reprting unbiased
RAJA said
Rubinn you can buy books written by Mr. Barun Roy from “amazon.com”…the following books are now available ….you can place your order:
1.A Continent in Change: Thirty Years of the Asian Development Bank
2.Beginner’s Guide to Journalism
3.Slim, and Smart Body
reg,
R
it is a online purchase platform like rediffshopping.com in india…..
GN_Citizen said
it might shock u,
but we (my family) are Kumaon Bahun(Hill Brahmin) and my gr8 grandfather is from Dunagiri,Kumaon and we still have our house there!
naresh chettri said
Hi Barun,
I hope you remember me. I would like to congratulate you on all your achievements. Keep it up dude! I m really proud to be your friend. God Bless.
rubin said
thanks RAja..wil do..:)
DEV said
HI
Sir how r u ? i need help from u, im in delhi know doing job with smal pvt co. but my son is in tea garden with hes grand father & mother they cant help to my son for any study then i want to put hem to the any bording school in siliguri and but i dont have any idea and i can expen for hem every year 30 – 40 thousand so plz help me for that plz send the reply to my mail ID THANX.
regard
DEV
PPA said
Dear Barun – could you please delete the following posts on this blog – 43, 49 & 61 on
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/gjm-asks-us-to-quit-party-says-cpi-m-minister/#comment-15802
and 131 on http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/save-the-gorkhas/
It contains personal info that i shall be more careful in divulging in the future.
Thanks
PPA
PJ said
Dear Barun,
What are the services offered by Roytech India pvt ltd? I cannot find any info on the net.
barunroy said
Dear PJ,
Roytech India Pvt Ltd is a small company that I formed in 2001. The idea was to market IT enabled educational tools in the Indian market. However, due to lack of investment, the company has be in the doldrums for a long time now.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
Dear Barun,
I understand, I will definately make it a point to meet y
PJ said
Will make it a point to meet you when i am Darjeeling.
Keep up the go
rubin said
http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/travel/29heads.html?ref=travel
aardee said
Barun,
Don’t short sell your blog…your rates are too low…ek zero aur add karo everywhere
aardee said
I meant ad rates I just checked the advertise on Beacon button.
DarZ said
hi barun da
I really appreciate what u r doing to all the gorkhalies who r far away from darjeeling..thank u for tht..but nowadays i see more news of Nepal rather than Darjeeling….I would be happier to see news of Darjeeling rather than Nepal…
Joseph Chamling said
Barun,
I came across these nice pictures while surfing
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://oldmhs.com/Darjeeling_Bazaar.jpg&imgrefurl=http://oldmhs.com/older_darjeeling.htm&h=333&w=488&sz=61&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=07EitMuH74TUBM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddarjeeling%2Broad%2Bin%2Bforest%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
all darjeeling photos
Have a look
Thanks
Joseph Chamling
ardnepuhb said
Hi Barun,
I use firefox mostly but it seems that posting comments does not work with it. After clicking the Submit Comment button, the page refreshes, but the comment is not entered. I am using IE to post this comment after trying and trying from firefox.
Joseph Chamling said
sorry for being in wrong column but this is good news
World champion Abhinav Bindra claimed the first ever individual gold for India to win the men’s 10m air rifle event at the Beijing Olympics.
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun, JTMdi, Ardee di, Yam daju, Mr. Joseph, PJ, Theba, Pramesh, PPA, Benoni and the rest..
WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
The last time I celebrated India’s Independence was during the year 1995..while I was in standard 12..we had performed a group Nepali dance..asti bharkhar ko kura jasto lagcha..
but I do really miss those days..
Love and Regards,
Nisha Tamang
barunroy said
Dear Miss Tamang,
Thank you very much. I hope that Indian-Nepalese solidarity lives on and both learn to respect each other as equal partners in Global Consciousness.
Long Live India!
Long Live Nepal!
Long Live Indo-Nepalese Friendship!
aardee said
Nisha thanks for the Independence Day wishes…here’s hoping your country’s President gets elected soon!
Goes without saying that people from Nepal that have stood by and continue to stand by us and have helped to protect our country’s borders…I salute them too!
PJ said
Dear Barun,
There were a couple of requests i had for you yesterday under ‘Save The Gorkhas’ page yesterday, maybe you missed it, i wanted to inquire if a seperate page can be made available for the music album performed by Gorkhas as the posts on the same might create confusions if both the topics are combined. Also as i requested earlier, can both of these topics have permanent links? I would really appreciate if you could kindly acknowledge this query. thank you & best regards, PJ
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Pj,
I am sorry that I did not reply to you yesterday. I must have missed your comment. Yes, we can have a separate page for Music Album I will do that tomorrow and also give it a permanent link. And we do have a permanent link already for Save the Gorkhas Project.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
Dear Barun,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply, btw, daya garera moh sanga formal na huwana sathi hai? G’nite brother.
Regards,
Pranavesh
AK Rai said
Dear Barun
I have forwarded an email having an enquiry notice for circulation and public notice. please get it from your personal email. PREVIOUSLY I had sent a few mails too.
Arun K Rai
Kalimpong
Joseph Chamling said
Dear Nisha Baini,
Thank you for your kind wishes. Sorry had been very busy off late. Now writing after good days lull.
Take care
Joseph
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Rai,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I am extremely sorry that I could not contact you earlier and even thank you. I am busy working on a Documentary – Darjeeling Hills and since we have to complete it within 25th of August, I am seemingly quiet desperate. I will send you the article in time. Please do forgive me for my imprudences.
Regs
Barun
jwalahang said
Dear Mr Roy,
Today’s “Himalayan Darpan” has reported the death of a 5/11 Gorkha Rifles,Rfn Mahendra Rai of Darjeeling in an encounter with the militants in Jammu ,but I am surprised to find that this fallen hero has not even found a small place in your blog.
Regards,
Jwalahang
Communicator said
Hahahaah Dear Jwalahang,
Do u thimk barun has timeto report all this after working hard to promote his half baked books and his own name……lolz u must ne kidding about it ,,,,,,,,hahahahahahaha
parivesh said
dear owner
i request you to edit the post that are posted in “http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/historical-british-map-showing-darjeeling-in-nepal/” as many have written aggresive thing and antislogan about one other’s country. this may create dispute in their mind and may case long term effect. for i request you to delete such type of posted material.
regard
parivesh
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Keep up the good journalist work that you are involved in.
Regards
Luen lama
Silgarhi,Dooars,Bhaktinagar said
Raghav,
That’s a good piece of news. Now you must have some people to put in our views to the world.
Just registering the domain name may not be enough.
AK Rai said
Dear Barun
The CD (3discs) of 12th aug programme is ready , how can I send it to you?
We can send it by any Kalimpong Motor syndicate taxi. Can yiu send someone to pick it up from the syndicate. If so please inform me. Otherwise do you have any students of Kalimpong who come home during the weekend? please inform me. I lost your phone number, so pliz give me ur cell no too.
Regards
Arun K Rai
thulungakrai@gmail.com
or
Kalimpongporessclub@gmail.com
Mine is 9434131719
jytmkh said
Arun sir,
Please keep a copy for me too. I will be visiting kalimpong soon and will pick up or u can give a set to my place at Kpg.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Rai,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I hope you are doing well. Since University Examinations are going I have been very busy. I would love to watch the cds and especially at our college since we are making a digital library for Department of Mass Communication. You could send it to the Kalimpong Motor Syndicate Taxi and I will send someone to pick it up. Please do let me know that you have sent it.. you can email me… I will be online most of the time.
Please also read the email that I have sent you. They contain some confidential matters and urgent at that.
I hope all is well. Keep the flame burning.
Regs
aardee said
Barun,
Congratulations I just noticed u’re blog is over the 4L mark in terms of visitors! Wah wah!
Communicator said
NOw Nepali dress ha,
hahahahahahahahahahaha very funny, gorkhalis or nepalis what is it Barun p[lz help me out m very confuzed here, who are we neplai’s or Gorkhali’s , why dont we haev a nepali dress, If i remember well , it was the britishers who gave us the name” GORKHALIS” otherwise naplai and gorkhalis is the same , whom are we trying to fool, today bepali dress, tomorrow u will aks all those non nepalis to wear nepali dress, to forget their cultutre to adopt to naplai ways, to speak in nepali , ha, very fnny, why does BImal gurung just shut his mouth and enjoy allthe monye he has got, he is taking Rs 300 from all the govt employees who are of lower rank and Rs 500 from those who are of higher rank, man where is this money going, and why the “F” is he asking that , who gave him the right , this is extorting , and forcefull, what is he trying to prove, that u just have to be a naplai o churn outn hard earned money form all the people of the hills.
Dinesh Jain said
Dear Barun,
Hello,
The Graphic Designer, a graduate from NID Ahmedabad
Ms.Jyoti thapa
is a friend known to me could you please provide me
her contact numbers or email address
I will be highly obliged
-Dinesh Jain
thanking you
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Jain,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
You request will be directly posted to Ms Jyoti Thapa Mani. It is upon her to contact you.
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
Dear Joseph Chamling,
This is raja here. Dear friend I have also read your all blogs for last 3 months and you are also a sensible person what I like most…..I dont know I will get opportunity to visit Delhi in near future or not….but if I get a chance then surely I will contact you….Ohh yes I was in delhi for 1 yr in 2002-03 and like that city and delhi peoples, specially JAAT type hindi pronounciation….friend you can contact me
Thank you.
regards,
Raja
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Raja,
I have just mailed you in your email id
Cheers
Lets remain in touch
Take`care
Joseph
inhk said
Hi Barun,
I have been following the trial of the 14 GNLF councillors and supporters very intently, as my father is one of the accused.
Today we found out he had been on hunger strike for already 24 hours. Apparently Deepak Tamang has been on hunger strike for 3 days.
My father is 70 years old and diabetic, and for him to be on hunger strike is very grave.
We know only one fact, that Pramila Sharma was shot. Apart from that we know nothing. So far the media has been calling them murderers. How do they know that? My father was not even at the place of the shooting. His only crime; being a GNLF supporter.
So far, the GJMM has threaten any lawyers that the group has tried to hire. No one will defend them as they are afraid for themselves and family. Is this the Gorkhaland we want. Do we want a Gorkhaland borne out of intimidation and anachy??
They are not going to get a fair trial when there is a mob braying for their blood. Do these woman (majority of the mob) get paid to stand outside the jail and hurl insults? Do they really know who shot the fatal blow? Do they even care?
Yes, it was tragic that such a young woman was killed and justice should prevail. But how can it, when the accused have been judged and hanged already by the mob?
Where are the decent, educated, sensible people of Darjeeling? Those who can see through intimidation and lies of the GJMM.
I don’t live in Darjeeling, I left when I was a little, but have come back very often to see my family. I love Dajeeling and it’s people.
If anything should happen to my father, rest assured I will
forever blame not just the GJMM but the people of Darjeeling.
inhk said
Sorry, that should have been Deepak Gurung in the above article not Deepak Tamang. My apologies again.
Communicator said
@INKH
Dear Friend, my sincere concern is with you, its very hard to imagine a world without ournparents, i knwo ths might be one of the works of the GJMM themselves, we dont know and will never know, remember mr PRadhan being killed right in the middle of the market, Rudra Pradhan i am talking about , he was the first one to go against the will of the GNLF, he won the elections from takbar but again was killed the same day, i reemebr we all were celbrating in gorkha bhawan in delhi when we heard this news, can u believe his son was also tehre wiht us, think what he had to go through, ALl the gnlf ppl have done immense worng to the people of darjeeling, more to the non nepalis , i dont call them gorkhas as there is nothing called gorkha its just the same , whom are they orn we fooling ha, we are all nepalis, its just a political gimmick and a propoganda and bimal gurung is enjoying his life, taking advantage of the same, as the gnlf ppl had done, villages like rimbick , lodhama, goke , harshinghatta, bijanbari, which was supposed to be a house for the red flag, all houses were burnt,peple killed, now then gnlf hasd to pay back , and tomorrow someone else will come up wiht a new party adn a new ahenda then GJMm will pay, so this will go on, we are pahades and we dont understand much we think not from the brina but fromthe heart , that is why we are fooled by the likes of ghising and now gurung, cheerrs to all men there , go on go ahead fool urself as much as u can, at the end of the day its the common man who is loosing every thing, not the leaders , he has to fear nothing as he is a goon, murders and extortion is something bimal gurung is very good at.and he does it the best, cheerrs to bimal gurung.
ardnepuhb said
Hello Barun bhai. I made a few posts recently saying that I could not get gorkhapedia to open. This is the third day and it still didn’t open but I think I have finally figured out what the problem is.
I’m in kathmandu and use mostly Worldlink (an isp) for internet. I thought something might be wrong as only I was having problems gettting the page to open so just now I tried using a Mercantile (another isp) connection. It opened! So I think people using Worldlink are not able to acces. The worst part is that Worldlink is one of the most popular isp here.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Ardnepuhb,
Greetings from Darjeeling. Gorkhapedia.org should work with any isp. I think you should accept cookies on your browser. Depending on your browser you can accept cookies by doing the following:
Mozilla Firefox (1.0 final release and earlier)
* Go to the “Tools” menu.
* Select “Options”.
* Select the “Privacy” icon in the left panel.
* Check the box corresponding to “Allow sites to set cookies”.
* Click “OK” to save changes.
Netscape 7.1/Mozilla 5.0
* Select “Preferences” from the Edit menu.
* Click on the arrow next to “Privacy & Security” in the scrolling window to expand.
* Under “Privacy & Security”, select “Cookies.”
* Select “Enable all cookies”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0+
* Select “Internet Options” from the Tools menu.
* Click on the “Privacy” tab.
* Click the “Default” button (or manually slide the bar down to “Medium”) under “Settings”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.x
* Select “Internet Options” from the Tools menu.
* Click on the “Security” tab.
* Click the “Custom Level” button.
* Scroll down to the “Cookies” section.
* To enable:
o Set “Allow cookies that are stored on your computer” to “Enable”.
o Set “Allow per-session cookies” to “Enable”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.x
* Select “Internet Options” from the View menu.
* Click on the “Advanced” tab.
* Scroll down to find “Cookies” within the “Security” section.
* To enable:
o Select “Always accept cookies”.
* Click “OK”.
Netscape Communicator 4.x
* Select “Preferences” from the Edit menu.
* Find the “Cookies” section in the “Advanced” category.
* To enable:
o Select “Accept all cookies” (or “Enable all cookies”).
* Click “OK”.
It should work now. If you have any more problem, please let me know.
Regs
Barun
ardnepuhb said
Hi Barun, thanks for your suggestions but I doubt it has anything to do with cookies. If I switch my connection to Mercantile I have no problems opening the page. I mostly use Wordlink and it just doesn’t open on it. So every time I want to view gorkhapedia I have to switch over to the mercantile connection.
I sent an email to worldlinks support yesterday and today i got a reply telling me to try again (as if they had done some changes) but I’m still getting the same problem. I’ve written back. Lets see what they have to say.
Communicator said
IS THERE any existence of any community under the nomenclature of Gorkha in India? Was there any state with the same title in India in its thousand years of existence?
History says – no, but corroborates that once there was a small state called Gorkha beyond India-Nepal border that still exists as a small district in Nepal.
Gorkhaland was never in any part of India and thus, the claim for Darjeeling in West Bengal to be transformed into a separate state, namely Gorkhaland, and a movement whether democratic or militant for it, is bound to go ashtray.
If anybody or any organisation has any claim for a Gorkha state, he or they will have to visit Gorkha town, the district headquarters, situated on the hilly tracks between Pokhra and Kathmandu. The exact location of the land is 25 kms north of Kathmandu – Pokhra highway via Abu Kairani. The Gorkha, a hilly terrain is famous for its natural beauty and historical elements. One can find here the fort of the Shah kings, palace and Kali temple. The palace has in it the throne of the King Prithvi Narayan Shah who established the greater Nepal after capturing the Kathmandu Valley. The great king is still shown respect by burning a lamp in his memory and achievements known as Eternal Lamp on the fourth floor of the palace. The lamp is never put off and has been burning since the inception of greater Nepal.
The movement for separate Gorkhaland in Darjeeling, the only hill state of West Bengal, was initiated by Gorkha National Liberation Front (GNLF) in ’80s. This was completely a militant movement. It found a happy ending with the formation of Gorkha Hill Council, under chairmanship of Subhas Ghising. But the situation took a serious turn when a breakaway group of GNLF under the leadership of Bimal Gurung formed a new forum, Gorkha Janamukti Morcha, and started fresh movement for a separate Gorkhaland. They ousted Subhas Ghising from Darjeeling Hills, burnt several houses of GNLF leaders, while silencing the CPI(M) leaders and workers. They introduced ’home rule’ denying law of the land. However, GJM leaders claimed that they are on democratic path.
However, whatever may be the nature of the movement, every movement for Gorkhaland on the soil of India is illegitimate, considering the the historical background of the very word Gorkha and a place of the same name in Nepal.
Gorkha was a separate neighbouring state of Kathmandu Valley. The people living there introduce themselves as Gorkhali. They, according to the British commanders were very courageous in any situation and are as a whole a loyal community. They were “bravest of the braves, most generous of generous, and faithful friends” as introduced by Prof Turner in his book ’The Gurkha Soldier’. The state was one of the 50 separate states ruled by the kings. Prithvi Narayan Shah was the king of Gorkha which was a state of 250 square kilometer. Later in 1768 when the king won the battle with Kathmandu Valley and other states and established greater Nepal in 1802, Gorkha was given the status of a district. Now the Gorkha district is spread over 3,610 square kilometres. Population counts to nearly three lakhs.
However, with the influx in immigration, a good number of Nepalis entered India before India became independent. A section of them were known as Gorkha for some unknown reason. On January 26, 1950, all of them were declared as Indian citizens. This is a mystery when in India there were no Gorkha and Gorkhaland, how did the Indian government announced that Gorkhas are also Indian citizen! Later the very word Gorkha was also included with the Gorkha Hill Council.
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During the British regime, a military regiment was created with the people living in Gorkha district in Nepal and other Nepalis as well. It was named as Gurkha Regiment and not as Gorkha Regiment of the Indian Army. Later the Gurkhas got scattered such that now they can even be traced to Gurkha Rifles in Great Britain, Gurkha Reserve Force in Brunei and The Gurkha Contingent in Singapore, to name a few. History says that the people of Gorkha are Nepalis but Nepalis are not always Gorkhas because there was never any community by this name in India as the place Gorkha was not in India but in Nepal.
Thus, the Gorkhaland movement on Indian soil loses its sanctity.
So whosoever calls him a gorkhali , go back to napal, india is not the place for you all, india is for the indians not for the gorkhas, get lost
Joseph Chamling said
First you BD immigrant @ communicator, you first go back to you place.
Joseph Chamling said
First you BD immigrant @ Communicator, you first go back to your place.
PPA said
Communicator -(or the lack of it – thus Mis communicator)
Go Back to School. Learn the following subjects.
Civics and Political History
India became a sovereign democratic republic (thats Civics for you) in 1947.
Math.
1947 – 2008 = 61 years. I dont know where you got 1000 years from.
I am glad you know something about the origin of the word Gorkha. Thank you for sharing that with us. It begins to get redundant when you proclaim common knowledge of the Gorkhaland movement with such a flourish as if you were explaining this to a child.
“However, whatever may be the nature of the movement, every movement for Gorkhaland on the soil of India is illegitimate, considering the the historical background of the very word Gorkha and a place of the same name in Nepal.”
It gets downright annoying when you make preposterous claims and display copious quantities of ignorance with such unbridled arrogance. If just the term Gorkha would prevent the creation of Gorkhaland, there are countless ways in which i can ridicule your argument but, let me ask you, since Sikkim was never a part of India – not before 1975 – and certainly not in your fictional 1000 years – how can Sikkimese be legitimate citizen’s of India?
I think its too tedious to read and reply your post point for point – so, i will stop here. please make more intelligeble argument and statements if you dont want to run the risk to being branded an “idiot with a big mouth” in this blog.
Oh – you need to learn to spell as well.
YK Shrestha said
Bangladeshi Ass, go back to ur country Bangladesh! You rats!
JTM said
“IS THERE any existence of any community under the nomenclature of Gorkha in India? Was there any state with the same title in India in its thousand years of existence?
History says – no, but corroborates that once there was a small state called Gorkha beyond India-Nepal border that still exists as a small district in Nepal. ”
From me:
Memeorial to the 1814 Battle of Nalapani between Gorkha rule and British invaders. Under ASI (archaelogical survey of India)
1)History of Gorkha rule on Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh. Check their history books.
2)Gorkha castles in HP (check internet)
3) Gangotri temple made by Gorkha General Amar Singh Thapa
4) Chail Palace hotel, HP. Check their hotel brochure…the arae was under the Gorkhas
5) Arki Palace Shimla. Check their hotel brochure: This palace was the headquarters of Gorkha Commander Amar Singh Thapa
6)Kangra Fort history and signboard under ASI: Under siege by Gorkha Commander Amar Singh Thapa
7)HP and Uttarkahnd, The GORKHAS are a bonfide race who have been the OBC status
BIGGEST PROOF OF GORKHAS IN INDIA
The history of India’s 1st Gorkha Rifles:
The regiment was raised from the Gorkha army at Malaun (HP) after the Anglo-Gorkha Battle of Malaun 1815. With 5 Battalions, the first Gorkha Rifles till date begins its history from Malaun (HimachalPradesh) and Amar Singh Thapa. Today the Regiment of the 1st and 4th GR are centred in Subathu.
Bonafide Gorkha villages in Dharamshala,Dehradoon. No family entered from Nepal since 200 years of land revenue records.
Need more proofs I can wrote 10,000 more words to the effect.
JTM said
I would like everyone to keep mind of this:
All the 7 Gorkha regiments owe their existence to the Battle of Malaun 1815. THe British troops headed by their Genral David Ochetyrlony attcked Gorkha troops under General Amar Singh Thapa who was headquartered in this region under the gorkha rule Malaun is in Himachal Pradesh today near Solan. The war is known as the Anglo-GORKHA wars.
The First Gorkha Rifles was formed from the Gorkha troops here. In 1815, two were called the Nasiri Battalion(friendship) battalion and the third was called Sirmour (a district in HP) Battalion. IN 1850, the Nasiri Gorkhas was named 66 Goorkha Infantry further named The First Gorkha Rifles in 1860, at which time the battalion was settled in Dharamshala. In 1960, the 1st and 4th GR was shifted to tehir present home in Subathu (HP).
Therefore the Indian Gorkha Regiments is the PROOF there were entities called Gorkhas were always here and in power!
JTM said
The second biggest proof of GORKHAS as an extension of Indian cultural history is BABA GORAKHNATH. The word GORKHA comes from his followers. Baba Goraknath’s samadhi is in GORAKHPUR, UP.
The Gorkha ties with India and Indian history qualifies them to be considered as extensions of India. It is an unique case hence everyone is confused. BUt they cannot be called foreigners! Yes I would agree that Nepalese (Nepal citizens) are foreigners. BUt once a Neplaese becomes a Gorkha, he belongs to India also.
JTM said
Dear Barun my posts 269, 268 and 267 can go into your blog of who is a Gorkha?
inhk said
Communicator.
Thanks for your comments. I am sorry but I don’t really know much about the politics of GNLF or any other party. I only know that my father and 13 other innocent people are now in jail because the GJMM will not let a court hearing begin as no lawyers will take the case (of course these lawyers could also be in collusion with GJMM and probably were jailed by GNLF before, eye for an eye but like Mahatma Gandhi said “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Also BREAKING NEWS, the guard of Deepak Gurung has already confessed to shooting, fearing for his life. He has already given his statement to the police. Does the mob braying for blood outside the detention centre know this? Btw, how much do they get paid to scream insults and threats?
How come we haven’t heard about this in any newspaper??
Does Darjeeling still have justice or is the justice scared of Bimal Gurung and the GJMM. A very sad sad time for Darjeeling and democracy and justice.
PPA said
JTM – i have emailed you – please check it.
G chettri said
Communicator r u still around
jytmkh said
Inhk,
What is the name of your father who is arrested? in the first post you were mentioning Deepak Tamang and corrected to Gurung who seems to be your dad.Secondly, can you identify yourself so that we can believe that you are the true son of the jailed GNLF leader?
G chettri said
Communicator Sujit lay ramro pat paraia cha. feri go yay hera na. I hope communicator is not Sujit roy. Sujit roy lai calcutta hi court ma case file hudai cha for writing agianest the indian community trying bring devide between the communities
YK Shrestha said
Dear Bhai G Chettri, Is the news you ahve written about this moron Sujit true?
inhk said
Jytmkh,
Deepak Tamang, Deepak Gurung, I don’t know any of them. I just made a mistake which I then corrected. My father is not a councillor, he is just a supporter. I don’t want to say his name just yet as I am afraid the GJMM will harass my mother even more. She has already filed a complaint when they did the last time. I don’t want her to go through any more sufferings as she is alone and we (my sister and I) do not live in Darjeeling.
If GJMM are so sure that they are guilty, why are they not letting them have a trial or let them go to Siliguri for the trial. What are GJMM afraid of?
Btw, I am the daughter of one of the accused man, not a son.
G chettri said
Hajur YK daju too much of anti gorkhaland article with communal fringe, We must stop the nonsence, Keto haru lagi rehay ko cha, Hope fully High court bench will permit the case
G chettri said
mailay ta diwso hatar ma inhk lai respond garay ko communicator po bhaiacha
G chettri said
Dear Ms Inhk,
Jaisa karni waisa verni bancha ni yestai ho jindagi. Jo power ma cha usko ta huncha alik dagdi. Tapai ko papa lay bool garay ko cha bhanay danda nischai huncha, therefore prepare your family for the worst instead of trying to blacken GJMM
Joseph Chamling said
I think Chettriji
We need to reconsider above statement. specially last line.
Its her pain she is sharing in a hope to lessen her pain. If we go as GNLF or any other way, what difference it remains for us.
JTM said
Nasty
inhk said
G Chettri,
Trying to blacken GJMM?? I am only writing what I know to be the truth.
-Why are the lawyers scared to take the case?
-Why won’t they let the hearing take place?
-Why do they hire mobs to shout insults and threats?
These are the facts.
Can you give tell me otherwise?
My father and the majority of the accused were not even at the place of shooting. He was with Subash Ghising’s house. And you know what? There were policemen stationed at Subash Ghising’s house.
Innocent until proven guilty? Isn’t that the basic human right?
I don’t know if you live in Darjeeling, I don’t so I certainly don’t know what’s it like living there now. But from talking to my mother 3 or 4 times a day, I know that the situation is very tense there.
dina roy said
hi,
barun,
where did u meet anirban choudhury? he didn’t take responsibility of his doing,used and dumped one girl and ruined her life completely.then because of money,married to another girl.hope, only god can punish him.
Communicator said
Dear frinds , no use fighting wiht me , i just posted an article written by sujit rai, thew only mistake i did was forget to mention the same , none of the comments are mine, i copied and posted the article directly, any ways thats a thingof the past, i dont care what u think and what u say, i just wanted to clarify, it wasnt my opinion,
And about that girl who is scared of her fathers treatement, well she has to pay back, as we are supposed to act like that as we have been blind folded and mesmerisze dby the magic of bimal gurung so we will do whaqt he say,s i dont care if we get a state or not, hell do i? and the thing is even if we get a state , bimal gurung says that he is not asking this for himself, will he not be the chief minister and will not the gjmm party memeber sbe ministers in the state ministry oif the get it, will they stay away from elections if it really happens, ha kinda joke it is.
And friends dont lecture me about the oprigin and authenticity of Gurkha’s
wehy does it have to be proved if it is true, every one is trying very hard to proove it with their statements becauase it is not true at all. same like the tibetians and bhutias who have come to darjeeling and settledther e and have becopme the rigchest of the lot, look at mahakal market , owned by the bhutias, look at most of the shops in darjeeling owned by the tibetians and bhutias, look at it , your own Darjeeling is being sold y them , and u can do nothign about it , we nepalis have bto do small scres and earn our living, and opn top of that we have been discarded with the right ful right to ask for our rights, niow they have named us OBS . wow …………………………………….and hey we are happy about it , what a sad story……………
IU hate politics and i hate peop;le when they aren mislead by propogandas.
JTM said
Anirban, that ponytailed guy?
G chettri said
INHK
Hope your innocent father get justice. Well I heard that only the conspirator used be in SG house those days working on conspiracy to create voilence in the hills in order to topple the present regime but again I might be wrong. It looks like some of the sheep were mistakenly in wolf pack. But again my prayers with you that your family trauma to be over before dasai.
Joseph Chamling said
Chettri ji
Thanks!! thank you!!
G chettri said
Friend INHK,
I dont live in darjeeling but I know that situation is much more better than SG times, I lost more than 17 very close friend in GNLF GVC fiasco some of their mom still wait every evening for them to come home.
So it is not like that now agitation is much more peaceful every one can easily participate. If your pop was with SG than must be loyal brigade member of SG. accept the fact somewhere down the line some short of involvement must be there otherwise usually innocent people are not easily picked up by the police. Anyway good luck to you
Joseph Chamling said
Chettriji
With this (above comment) I respect you more, now.
Regards
Joseph
inhk said
G Chettri,
Thanks for your kind words.
Like I said before I have no idea of politics in Darjeeling now or before with GNLF.
My father’s fault was that he was too loyal to Subash Ghishing. He didn’t turn the other way like so many others. Isn’t that one of the best trait of a Gorkha??
Anyway, let us hope for a good outcome for the innocent men.
RAJA said
Except court no one have right to punish another person…..that’s law of India…..
JTM said
I dont know how Darj society is going live with the GNLF and GJMM scars
RAJA said
EVERYTHING WOULD BE OKIE WITH TIME …..
Luen said
COMMUNICATOR – lets get one thing straight and that is DON’T insult us no matter what you write or think that you know about our history of origin I beg to differ!! NO matter what the history or who says what WE ARE GORKHAS and proud to be what or who we are and have every right to be living in India which is our right of ABODE!!
I agree with Joe Chamling – GO BACK MY FRIEND FROM WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM!!!
Luen Lama
JTM said
In Dharamshala, the Tibetans are the richest people despite the refugee status. Will they ever go back lock stock and barrel if China takes them back? I doubt it. Big Tibetan monasteries dot the entire landscape. What will they do with them? Since they have discarded the bakku and started wearing the salwar-kameez now, They are mistaken to be Gorkha women. If any Gorkha looks affluent, they are mistaken to be Tibetans. Most of them have now become hostile and only welcome you if you have money to buy their goods or put in their Free Tibet donation boxes. They are only pally with the ‘whites’. Maybe the frustrations of last 40 odd years of being in limbo. They boss over the locals whom they seduce with money, but are only scared of Gorkha boys.
DO, start yr brickbats on me
Luen said
JTM,
What you have written is so very true and I support every word and agree with you whole heartedly!!!
Once the funds are low in the community then the marches start for ‘Free Tibet’ and of course the gullible whites start to pour in their donations.
These people came in as refugees and they get the best treatment compared to us Indians, they get preferences when they sit for various public and government exams why should this be the case?? when our own boys and girls don’t get the advantages they get in all spheres of life in India when they are considered Refugees – I say send them back if they want to go to Tibet.
Good on you JTM
L. Lama
M. Ahmed said
Dear Barun Dada,
Its’ indeed a pleasure knowing lots about your contribution to the Gorkha community in Darj.You certainly deserves loads of appreciation.
The site you launched is richly informative no doubt.
Anyways, let me introduce myself in brief, I am Ahmed, a Bangladesh national studied in St.Joseph’s College, Darjeeling during 1986-89 and earned my Honours Degree in Economics. Ever since I left Darj I was literally in dark about the place I spent so long. The time that we passed those years was kind of nightmare, Gorkhaland agitation was in its peak; the real essence of Darj was missing. Now when Darj has got back to her normal I am miles away isn’t that sad?
I sincerely wish to visit your place at least once before I go back to UK this winter. Meanwhile, I need to read all your books people were mentioning about in the blog i.e. FALLEN CICADA, DREAM FLOWER etc. Do you think I can get them online if having e-version or the hard copy by post ? I would rather prefer regular version of your books for enriching my personal collection. Any cost involved is payable.
Thanks to you from deep down inside to make me feel nostalgic about the place, my friends, the Taxi Driver Daju of Singmari line and to top it all, the people of Darjeeling I missed so long. I guess I will no longer miss Darj, thanks to your web site and books once again.
With best regards,
M. Ahmed
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Cell: 880-1671134388
barunroy said
Dear Mr. M. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I am extremely sorry that I could not reply to you immediately. In these few months there have been simply too many things to do and I have not been able to respond to friends immediately. Please do forgive me for that. I am really happy that you wrote from Bangladesh and shared your love for Darjeeling. Darjeeling is really such a place which wins over people’s heart. Everything is fine here, in fact with the Durga Puja festivals coming up and the entire hills being decked in ethnic drapes I think we will have one of the best festivals this time. It is good to learn that you are also a St. Joseph’s guy, so am I. The college has changed a lot presently and has been offering excellent academic and career oriented programmes, though I will have to confess I have not been to the college myself for last six years. But I do like to keep track of what is happening there.
As for the books, please do send me you address and I will send you the books. You need not pay but I would love it if you could send me a book on the history of Bangladesh. Lets say it would be kind of an international exchange of books between friends. That way we can know more about each other. Darjeeling and Bangladesh shares a lot of History by the way, you will know of them in Fallen Cicada. Any time you would want to come to Darjeeling, please let me know. I would love to meet you. Thats all for now.
Please do accept my best wishes and regards,
Regs
Barun
M. Ahmed said
Dear Barun Dada,
Thank you so much for your response.
Appreciated.
I am waiting for the books to reach me asap, can’t wait till read them.
As for Bangladesh History books You are getting one soon. Any thing more you need pls fell free……..
This is the month of Ramadan ( month of fasting and rituals followed by Eid) here. This year we are fortunate enough to have both Eid and Durga Puja together at almost the same time.
I still remember when in North Point, going with other students and Singmari mates to local houses down the hill and singing “Dausurey” during puja. One more thing I thought of mentioning to you since you too are the ex- North Pointer..is like St. Joseph’s Alumi Association. Do you have any idea about that?
Thank you once again for doing so much for us. Your work will certainly bring about certain change towards exposing Darjeeling to international communities in a positive fashion.
Regards
Raj said
Deal all
For God sack please support Gurungji, who is leading the show for good cause “Gorkhaland), leave your selfeish comment and story behind.
Thanks
RAJ (UK)
Yonze said
It’s very easy for a person who stays far away in U.K and shout that way.
By the way you might be the one from Rohini dialing for Canada.
You supported, that’s great. Thanks.
Silgarhi,Dooars,Bhaktinagar said
I have always been against the Tibetan Refugees being given the ST status. Pray, why? How come they are given this privilege when even the Ladakhis and Lahaulis are fighting for ST status. The ways of GOI is very very confusing. Did u guys know that the Ladakhis and Lahaulis are not ST??
Pranay Ray said
Thank you Mr. Barun Roy for potraying my article in your blog……….the article “fm channels faces revenue crisis”.
sincierly yours
Pranay Ray
M. Ahmed said
Barun Da,
Have you read my little mesg there at book section?
M Ahmed
INSOMNIACRETURNS said
Dear Barun Roy
Please start a thread /topic in this blog through which we can wish Happy Dasain/ Durga Puja /pujo to our near and dear ones! and consequently we’ll send the link to same respective pple.
Regards
from B’lore
JTMagar said
Dear Barun
Pl attach the news item ‘Gurkhas can stay in UK, says court’
TOI October1 with a picture of actress Joanna Lumley. Thank you, good wishes, Jyoti didi
Anita said
Dear friend Barun,
I just love your amazing photos from the Fulpati Celebrations in Darjeeling! How nice to see the people so relaxed and happy. Wish we were there and able to join in. Then to be able to listen to the temple bells and also to some people talking in the background. How marvellous and so are you Barun
. Here we have a beautiful sunny day in the middle of autumn. It is
+ 10C degrees and I will go out picking mushrooms in the forrest close to our home. Tomorrow I will go and help my old mother, who feels much better nowadays. Maybe thanks to your earlier prayers? My husband also send his best regards. Please, take good care of yourself and your family. Enjoy the celebrations!
Your friend Anita
barunroy said
Dear Anita,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you for your kind words. The celebrations here have just started and will go on till the Tihar Festivals which is also known as the Festival of Lights. These are actually the best time to visit Darjeeling Hills. People sing, dance and are dressed in their ethnic best. By the Lord’s Grace, peace is back and humanity is aglore with happiness. I too wish you were here. I could have taken you around and we could have join in the celebrations. Oh, how I curse myself for not having been able to meet you and your husband. But alas, I will meet you again and be able to welcome you in Darjeeling Hills. It is really great to have a friend like you.
I am really happy about your mother who is feeling well. I also imagine tagging along with you while you go to pick mushrooms in the forest how beautiful must it be there during this time of the year. If you get time please do me a favour and send me some pictures. I would love to keep them for my personal collections. Thank you for your kind words for whenever I am down and feeling sad they make me feel warm and good. Please give my deepest regards to your mother and your husband. And please do also accept my best wishes.
May the Lord God, be always with you and your dear ones.
Your friend
Barun
bibek said
Dear Barun Ji,
It there some way where you could merge all the news from Nepal into a idfferent section? I am sorry to have asked you this eventhough it is your personal blog. I and I hope many people are interested in news of Darjeeling and India and the news from Nepal honestly embedded between the news of Darjeeling and other parts of India is very distracting.
Just a suggestion though.
Regards,
Bibek
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Bibek,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Please do accept my best wishes and regards. I hope you are doing well.
I do understand how you are feeling. Basically, I do not try to mix up the news and as per the region from which the originate. However, since the basic idea being to incorporate news as and when they occur or are published, sometimes they tend to get mixed up. That is a couple of news from Nepal, some from Sikkim and the rest from Darjeeling Hills. Some days, articles from Himachal and Assam also make their way. This might be disturbing to readers who are interested only in news from specific region but the fact remains that the hotch-potch of news from across the region and the world signifies everything taking place in the world Gorkha/Nepali wise. It does spice up the Blog.
One of the biggest ambitions of this blog is the unification of all Gorkhas and Nepalese in an intellectual plane, I guess this is in many ways intended to achieve that.
However, still, I will try to come up with a better layout where readers can find immediately whatever they are interested. Do bear with me for a while though as this might involve altering the very interface of the site.
Regs
Barun
Communicator said
LUEN
GO BACK MY FRIEND FROM WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM!!!
So go back to nepal.
PERIOD
Luen said
Communicator,
Thankyou for sending me off to Nepal but let me inform you that my home is Darjeeling and no matter that I move from one State to the other in India as my job warrants it but MY HOME IS DARJEELING.
Visiting Nepal once in a while is good and why not as we are pretty well Brothers-in-Arms!!! As for you my friend I still maintain that you should crawl back from where you originated from as we do not like the likes of you making stupid & silly comments.
Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Luen Lama
JTM said
Once Gorkhaland is formed wonder what will happen to us Gorkhas from Himachal and uttarkahnd. Will Gl also treat us like outsiders? What is all this Go Back nonsense? By syaing all this you are effectually lending credence to the Nepalis are illegal migrants misconception which we all know is incorrect accordinmg to the 1950 treaty. No Nepali in India is illegal and vice versa
PPA said
Barun – have you heard of craigslist.org ? you can try and begin something like that. it would be a great service enhancing what you have already done. since we visit your blog so often, you could take that one step further. happy dasai and puja.. best wishes – prashant
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Prashant,
Yes, I was introduced to craigslist.org while watching the fantastic documentary on Internet on Discovery. Craigslist is fantastic. I trying to incorporate some essensce of it in Gorkhapedia.org. Please do feel free to create similar pages and edit Gorkhapedia.org.
Regs
Barun
khaskhas said
yaar barun the radio is not opening in my server.it says wrong file.what to do man?
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
I am presently working on it. Since I can only work on it live, you might have a problem at least for an hour. Inconvenience is regretted.
Regs
Barun
khaskhas said
thank you man.i salute your humility and prompt response.
happy dasain
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your kind words.
Happy Dasain.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Wishing you and your team a very happy Dasain n Depawali
Cheers
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much and we also wish you and your family a very very happy Dashai and Tihar.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
REf” Bimal Gurung in Delhi #7
I have strong objections to Rubin Tamang’s comment. He has made a personal insult to my character and dignity. And misuse of my presence here. If the youth of Darj indulge in such loose talk like Rubin no wonder they deserve two tight slaps.
Dear Barun please kindly insert my strong objection to this man. No wonder very few ladies participate on this blog because there are male chauvinist pigs around with chauvinistic and sexual harassment traits.
If this Rubin was in front of me I would have had him booked in jail good and proper for making derogatory remarks on gender bias.
And Rubin if you do not apologise I shall make a legal complaint via beacononline.
aardee said
Barun,
The process for inserting news/views/data in the Gorkhapaedia is very complicated.
Is there no way u can give us a subject line on the left column in your blog so that people can readily post their comments/info re Gorkhas whcih u could then categorise and put up on the Gorkhapaedia?
aardee said
My I suggest that the icon for PUBLIC GRIEVIANCE be made smaller & if you are going to use our TRICOLOUR do keep it right on top nut below some rodent pic about hot stimulating treks & tours…
After all Jhanda ooncha rahein hamara…
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
I have brought up the Tricolour and am presently creating a page where you could make entries for Gorkhapedia.org at Beacon Online, itself. I will also bring back ‘Save the Gorkhas’.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Hi Barun,
This is in reference to your comments blogged on the 21st of October: BLOGGERS PLS REFRAIN FROM ABUSING THE FORUMS!
I coulden’t agree with you more and appreciate the good work that you are doing for us bloggers by keeping us upto date with the latest news and views and people should refrain from abusing the forum and especially sending out threats to you and your family personally. What they acheive from all this rubbish makes one’s mind boggle!! If they the fellow bloggers could just stick to the basic rules and blog in good suggestions like many do on the forum it would be more justified and better reading.
Keep up the good job mate and don’t forget you have your more well wishers then hate mail senders!!
Good on you
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Lama,
Thank you very much for you kind words. Its what keeps me going.
Regs
Barun
aardee said
Thanks Barun look forward to the changes.
Luen said
CAN ANYONE OF OUR BLOGGER FRIENDS HELP!!!
A friend of mine and his wife would like to rent a bungalow type accomodation in Kalimpong and ready to pay a good rent if the accomodation is good. They are looking at long term renting approximately 2-3 years.
It would also be good if they could have a drive way to the house so that they can park their vehicle inside the property.
If any kind soul could get back to me I could pass on the info to them
Many thanks
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
I will put in as a classified so that your friends could be helped.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Thanks Barun,
You are a gentleman and a friend
Many thanks
Luen
M.Ahmed said
Barun Bro, have you got the book I sent? Pls acknowledge asap.
Regds.
M.Ahmed
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I have not yet received the book but thank you very much. I will acknowledge the book as and when I receive it. Could you please let me know in which address you have sent the book?
Thank you once again to such a generous gift.
Regs
Barun
BT said
There is an email going around that shows a pic of a lady sitting on a couch with the indian flag on her feet. Does anyone know who she is and whats going on in the pic?
mr.nepali said
Do you mean this -> http://mutiny.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/godwoman-disrespects-the-national-flag/
BT said
Yes Mr. Nepali that is exactly the one I meant.
BT said
Seems quite old news, sorry to bring it up but i just received the mail recently and was curious.
JTM said
Daer barun
Has the 51 page memorandum by GJMM, been removed from Beacon?
Ranbir Thapa said
@JTM,
THE 51 PAGE MEMORANDUM BY GJM IS STILL THERE, CHECK OUT AT:
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/paper-on-the-new-state-of-gorkhaland-document-submitted-by-gjm/
JTM said
Thanks ranbir
soulpower said
Mr Roy
Greetings from guwahati!Although a very macabre and heart tearing day, please bear the patience to go through what I wanted to put forward to you in a while.
1) Whos this budding young chap called Nanda whos a very talented photographer(i mean aside from his snaps on the blast)?
2) Since you have the time and patience to publish weekly tea market reports(although once in a while! – dont mind me just some creative criticism!), I can mail you a copy of the weekly tea market report that is published on a weekly basis from my office in calcutta in pdf format, so that you can put it up on your blog for all those interested.
Thats all for now!
Uve got my email id as hilanderai@gmail.com
Please revert at the earliest.
Warm Regards
Hilander
acme said
barun da maile himalayan darpan pahila parda 400% zoom garera adobe ma harthe,,tara asti dekhi zoom nai hunu choreko cha,,,newspaper parnu nai pako chueena,,,ke yo website ma problem ho?maile 2 –3 location ma garera check gare tara testai cha? plz fix it..
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
Let me check it out and get back to you immediately.
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
The flaw has been taken care of. Now you should be able to read without any problem. Please let me know if you face any more problem.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Pl kindly insert a profile on Indian Idol contestant Kapil Thapa of the 4/4 Gorkha Rifles. Thank you, Jyoti di. Jai Gorkha! Jai Jawan!
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Will do so immediately. Am watching Indian idol and praying for Kapil.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Please load the article
‘The Many faces of Goonda Raj’
With Malice towards One and All by Khushwant Singh
HT November 1
THis weekly column ‘With Malice towards One and All’ is what i enjoy reading regularly.
Thank you
Jyoti didi
acme said
baron da himalayan darpan ko problem solve bhayo thank u so much..ani aja nov 1st ko HD ko page number 7 chai ulta vaeecha,,,but anyway thanx so much for providing da fresh news of our hills..
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
Please let me check out the Page number 7 and solve the problem too!
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
You can watch Mahima Chowdhury dancing on 9X channel at 8 PM tomorrow sunday.
Cheers Jyoti di
Doctor said
Good work guy!
JTM said
Dear Barun
I have raised objections to loose and false incriminations at me by Backbone. It is a violation of my presence on this blog. I hope you will concede to my requests. Thank you
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! The comment in question has been deleted and Backbone asked not to make any further defamatory comments.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Thank you Barun.
backbone said
THEIR ARE HUNDREADS OF COMMENTS AGAINST THE BENGALI AND OTHER COMMUNITIES BY VARIOUS BLOGGERS EXIST IN THIS SITE. A GOOD NUMBER OF SLANG AND PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE ALSO HERE. SO, THEIR IS NOTHING TO ANGRY . IF YOU DONT LIKE MY COMMENTS, SIMPLY IGNORE. A GOOD NUMBER SUPPORTERS OF GREATER GORKHALAND OR NEPAL IS ALSO HERE. WHICH IS ACTUALY ANTI INDIAN. BUT THE SAKE OF VERBAL DEMOCRACY BARUN IS ACCOMODATE ALL. THIS IS THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NATURE OF BARUN. THANKS BARUN.
JTM said
I cannot understand which century and mindset are we living in?
Today when Barack Obama, 1st generation American, son of a black Kenyan IMMIGRANT stands to almost become the President of America, people here saying GO BACK here and GO BACK there!!!!!!
and hounding Nepalis living legitimately here for over a century!!!!!!!!!
worst of all the WB govt themselves calling Nepalis as migrants in a disdainfull manner!!!!!!!
YO For OBAMA!!!
RAJA said
Not WB govt. is saying thast JTM….that was said by subhash bowmick and ashok bhattacharya….by the way I know subhash bowmick …. he is a tagged person ….have made many controvertial comments earlier also….dont hv much ideas about ashok bhattacharya.
backbone said
W.B. GOVT GIVES THOUSANDS OF CRORES TO DARJEELING FOR DEVELOPMENT. BUT, YOUR LEADERS LOOTED ALL THE MONEY. DARJEELING IS SECOND RICHEST DIST OF THE W.B. IN INDIA THEIR IS UNITY IN DIVERSITY SAME IN A STATE OF W.B. HUNDREADS OF COMMUNITIES LIVE PEACFULLY IN W.B. IN INDIA DEMOCRACY IS VERY MUCH PREVELENT. ONE POOR MUSLIM SON OF A PRIEST FROM SOUTHERN MOST CORNER OF INDIA CAN BE PRESIDENT OF INDIA. MINORITIES ARE VERY MUCH PROTECTED IN INDIA. IF, ANY BODY HAVE TALENT CAN REACH THE TOP IN ANY FIELD IRRESPECT OF CASTE AND CREED. BEFORE BOOSTING FOR AMERICA ONE MUST PRAISE THE LARGEST DEMOCRACY OF THE WORLD. BUT, ANY BODY TRY TO MALIGN INDIA AND TRY TO DISTRUB HER. NO INDIAN WILL EXCUSE THEM. NO BODY HOUNDING ANY COMMUNITY PARTICULAR , ONLY HOUNDING ANTI INDIAN PEPOLE MAY BE FROM ANY COMMUNITY. THEIR IS BLACK SHIP IN EVERY COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO IGNORE THEM.
JTM said
What are you telling us all this for? We Gorkhas from nepal and india have been defending India for years! From Pakistan, China and till date are daily controlling all your insurgents, extremists. The iNdian army including Gorkha regts are evn right now engaged in CI (Counter Insurgent) operations in jungles, dizzy heights, LOCs while you are screeching over here. Our army is in a never-ending war. With winter coming it is going to be so difficult for our jawans on the borders. Kya patriotism dikah raha hai?
RAJA said
jtm,
every soldiers are doing their duty….whether he is from gorkha/naga/jaat/maratha/punjabi/rajput/bihari/bangali/kanada/bodo/adibasis….everyone…..not only gorkhas are defending but also all others indian soldiers….if a non gorkha read your above blog then he will surely think that you are only concern about about gorkhas loyalty…but fact is that every soldiers are loyal to his country…it doesn’t matter which community he belongs….
…………………………………………………………..
Just read your first 2 lines…” What are you telling us all this for? We Gorkhas from nepal and india have been defending India for years! From Pakistan, China and “”"”"till date are daily controlling all your insurgents, extremists.”"”"”"”……
your insurgence means?? dont you think India is yours too?? then why you have used the words “your insurgents”……it’s totally unacceptable words from a educated people like you.
backbone said
YOU ARE RIGHT RAJA. PL FIRST TRY TO BE A TRUE INDIAN BY HEART AND SOUL. DONT TRY TO MIX UP POLITICS WITH INDIAN ARMY. OUR ARMY IS THE BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD. THEY USE “WE” AND “OUR” INSTEAD OF “YOU” OR “I”. THIS IS THE TRUE INDIAN CULTURE. WE ALL MUST BE PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN. IT IS OUR DUTY TO SAVE INDIA FROM THE DIVISIVE FORCES SUPPORTED BY CHINA,I.S.I. ETC. JAI HIND.
mr.nepali said
Backbone, Dont guess …. Proove it…. Who knows you’re an I.S.I agent or someone from China.
mr.nepali said
And secondly, just read the news, brwose the site, listen to the songs … BUT don’t talk crap unnecessarily without proof, cos thats what crap is.
backbone said
HI, FIRST PROOF, WHERE FROM GJMM, UGRA GETTING MONEY. EVERY INDIAN KNOWS THE LAVISH LIFESTYLE OF GJMM LEADERS, WHOSE MONEY IS IT. READ LAST WEEKS ALL THE NEWS PAPERS (INCLUDING THE TELEGRAPH, ANANDBAZAR, UTTARBANGA SAMBAD). EVERY SECURITY AGENCIES DOUBTING FOREIGHN HANDS IN GJMM ACTIVITIES. MR TAMTA (I.G.) DIRECTLY HINTED NEPAL MAOBADIS INVOLMENT IN DARJEELING IN A RECENT INTERVIEW IN E TV. DONT THINK, YOU ARE ONLY CLEVER OTHERS ARE BLIND. TODAY EVERY TRUE INDIAN IS CONCERN ABOUT THE SECURITY AND GROWING ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES IN THIS REGION.
backbone said
TODAY, THIS SEPARATIST MOVMENT BY GJMM WITH THE HELP OF FORIGHN HANDS MAKE DARJEELING A MESS. TOURISTS ARE BLACKLISTED DARJEELING. SECOND RICHEST DIST OF W.B. DUE TO FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF CENTRAL AND STATE ARE LOOSING ITS GLORY. OUTSIDERS STUDENTS PULLING OUT THEM FROM HILLS SCHOOL. INFACT LEPCHAS, BHUTIAS, BENGALIS , MARWARIS, BIHARIS ETC ARE COMPLETLY AGAINST FORMATION OF GL. SOME GOONDA WITH THE HELP OF FOREIGHN MONEY NOW RULE THE AREA. GJMM INTENTIONALY CREATING COMMUNAL DIVISION TO MAKE THIS REGION DISTRUBE.
mr.nepali said
backbone, dont forget to claim the prize
JTM said
# 361
Raja
Pl remember one thing. While there are Indian soldiers including Indian Gorkhas. The majority in the Gorklha regiments are from Nepal. 60: 40. While we take pride in our soldiers let us NOT forget Nepal as a foreign country contributing to our defence since 1815. And let us not talk about money needs, etc. The loyalty and valour of the soldiers from Nepal is of the type even money cannot procure. And today frankly even Indian men are not keen on joining the army though our defence is hard-pressed with the kind of continuous insurgency and terrorism problems India is increasingly fraught with. There is a shortage of 800 officers! The amount of defence personnel taking premature retirement is huge.
And I hope we Indians have the grace to appreciate that.
Nepal has faced diplomatic issues over this with countries like Pakistan and China over the soldiers traditionally only for Britain and India. Yet she continues to allow her sons for us.
Raja I did not expect you to get in a mere word like ‘ours’ or ‘yours’ in comment which had wider and more important connotations. And that too over a retort to ‘Backbone’
Thank you Nepal for providing us your brave sons.
RAJA said
There are lot of indians (natives) work in Gorkha regiment…..most of the officers are indian in gorkha regiments…..
you have given thanks to nepal providing its brave sons …good….at the same time request your nepali friends (nepali citizen) to say thank India and England for providing employment aveneus….instead of doing it they are taking anti indian anti govt. of India….they should feel shame.
RAJA said
typing mistake…it would be ‘talking anti…’ instead of ‘taking anti….’ at last like
JTM said
Raja, please kindly do not place any soldier in any ‘employment’ terminology. Never Never Never equate a Human life in any such a manner. I am shocked at you.
You know it is this attitude that has made them anti-Indian. INdia is way ahead of Nepal in evry sphere. We do not have to make them feel obliged to us for whatever help we may extend to Nepal or any other country for that matter.
WE should feel ashamed to expect gratitude from those we help.
They are also human beings and have self-respect. Such like we have.
In India also we have had droughts and famine when food packets from the UN or US were dropped on us.
We still receive charity material for the poor from foreign countries.
RAJA said
Since last latur eartj quake India have not received any foreign aids …nor in tsunami too….we have extended our helping hands though we were also bad affected due to it….any informations regaarding India’s foreign aids during natural calamity after Latur earth quake???
Everyone has self respect …I accept that….but dont accept nemaak harami!! Jiska help lu wo se kai baadnam karta feru…this attitute never accepted…..this’is not the issue of taking gratitute from them!!
JTM said
Dont forget that millions of Indians have migrated to foreign countries working from janitors to top level professions. How do you feel when some of them express a patronising attitude towards us. We hate it right?
RAJA said
When our 40% country men live below poverty line and hardly get two times meal though India is helping its poor neighbours….they (citizen of our neighbours) should accept that reality and should not talk anti indians….
RAJA said
# 373,
If she/he has change his citizenship then he/she should show loyalty to his/her present country else he/she would be called as GADDAR selfish jo kisi eek ka thali mein khata hain aur kisi aur ka gungaan gata hain…is not it?? do you support gaddars???
And if they have migrated for works but still holding indian citizenship then they can show loyalty to his own country and express patronising attitute to us…that’s good only.
JTM said
Have you been to Nepal and seen how Indians behave? I once rudely pushed aside by a bunch of aggresive tourist women from Delhi, from a queue. They thought I was Nepalese. Though Nepal needs the Indian tourists, the way they behave there is shamefull. Anyway, lets close this topic.
In fact these days, I feel sorry for all immigrants nowadays, legal or illegal, Nepali or Bangaldeshi. Noone leaves his or her home just like that. there is a need. Everyone is unhappy. All terrorists, extremists, insurgents are unhappy people. And the more we rebuke them the more fanatical they become.
After all this is mother earth. Every human being has a right to live anywhere. But it is always a conflict of the powerfull and the weak, the fortunate and the unfortunate, the selfish and the humble, the dominating and the dominated. And EGO! Pride of the powerfull and pride of the powerless. All eating into each other.
That is why I did a review of the book of Ram. A man born king but lived in the jungles. A life filled with duties…… as a son, as a brother, as a husband, as a king when he had to sacrifice his wife and children, as a destroyer of evil… his life was never his own but one of constant sacrifice for others. Finally when he felt his duties was over, he walked into the River sarayu and ended his life.
RAJA said
JTM what’s the attitute of kathmandu peoples towards their own country brothers MADHESIS (indian origin nepali citizens) we all know….no need to go to Kathmandu…come darjeeling or gangtok and see what’s the attitute of local inhabitants (mostly nepali) towards bihari sabjiwalas/paanwalas or peoples of indian origin….he behaviour you got in delhi by some of indian ladies is not acceptable….but the attitute towards indian origins in darj is quite same….pplz laught after watching their dress sense, way of talking etcs….and this real fact…..no one can cross my points here as dar/gangtok is very much familier to me….
Migrant upto certain limits or at a certain time due to circumstance is acceptable….but India is not money producng machine that everyone (from our neighbour countries) will start migrating from his land and come to india and if he/she dont get that then resenment starts….why we will support more migrants?? for what?? when our own brothers are living in slums and hardly getting two times food!!!
It’s enough …no more migration as our population has crossed 100 crores….even country like USA (most wealthy and prosperous country)has stopped migration from it’s poor neighbours….our govt. should think this issue carefully….
africa is also in earth …. it’s my request to all my neighbours govt. send their unwanted population to africa as there are lotta lands there….
backbone said
YOU ARE RIGHT RAJA. IN DARJEELING HILLS/SIKKIM LOCAL NEPALIS ARE VERY RUDE TOWARDS BHAIYAS. RECENTLY, IT HAS BEEN INCREASE MANIFOLD DUE TO THE ANTI INDIAN MOVEMENT BY GJMM. SPECIALY IN DARJEELING THEY EXTORTED MONEY FROM NON NEPALIS FORCEFULLY. IN THE NAME OF PRASHANT TAMANG THEY EVEN FORCED TOURIST TO SENT MESSAGES AND PAY MONEY. MOST OF THE EDUCATED MINDS OF NEPALIS IN INDIA ARE STILL CONSIDERS THEMSELF AS PEOPLE OF NEPAL AND USE “YOU” WHEN REFER TO AN INDIAN NOT “WE”. THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.
backbone said
RECENTLY OUR HOME SECERATARY MR MADHUKAR GUPTA RAISED THE ISSUE OF SECURITY OF INDIAN IN NEPAL TO NEPALS SECERATARY. IT IS NOT A BLAME GAME BUT FACT.
JTM said
Arrey even I have been told that I am ‘very Indian’ and that the Dharamshala Gorkhas are very ‘Indian’, so what are you feeling bad about?
JTM said
BTW Raja I got pushed out of the line by Delhi women at the Kathmandu airport.
backbone said
DEFINETLY THAT DELHI WOMEN VISITED DARJEELING ON THE MONTH OF JUNE 2008. AS PER THE REPORT KATHMANDU HAVING A VERY ANTI INDIAN FEELINGS NOW A DAYS AND INDIAN TOURIST ARE HARDLY ABLE TO VENTURE OUT AFTER EVENING. IF THAT INCIDENT IS TRUE, THEN THE NEXT LINE IS ” I HAVE GIVE HER A STRONG THAPPER”.
RAJA said
JTM,
I have never raised question upon you reagring feeling like indians….you are saccha indian and most of darj/sikkim guys too…but some of them are thinker of greater nepal….jiis thali mein khata hain wo si mein ee ched!!….I feel shame on them.After staying here for 2/3 generations their mind didn’t change or they have come just few years back!!!
Back bone,
what I have written attitute towards indian biharis/marwaris by the hill peoples in darj or gangtok is 100% correct….no one can cross this….this attitute shoould end fast as we all are Indians …. it’s not good to use words like “we” for locals & “you” for other indians from plains. If this is the attitute how can they think they will get everyone’s support for their statehood movement??
Hackman said
Hey boneless Back,
Anti-Indian feeling is widespread in the world as is anti american.East Africa, Malaysia, even in Saarc countries, so do not make a big fuss about it.
backbone said
BUT NO ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED IN INDIAN SOIL. OTHERS COUNTRIES ARE JEALOUS OF OUR ECONOMIC SUCCESS AS THEY ARE JEALOUS OF AMERICAS SUCEESS. NOTHING NEW ON IT. BUT, THOSE ARE LIVING ON INDIAN SOIL AND INDULGED IN ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES MUST BE SHOOT IN BLANK POINT.
RAJA said
Hackman India hasn’t pour pounds of bomb on its neighbour countries…then why this anti indian sentiment?? we always have helped them…..
On the other hand anti American feeling has been spread due to its foreign policy mainly wars in afganistan and Iraq…..creating pressures on iran and N.Korea…..but is anything India did with its neighbours?? then why this anti indian feelings….these kind of anti indian feelings only expected from citizen of countries like pakistan and china…
Hackman said
Look there could be many reasons for such feelings you have to be in that country to know it better. Backless bone pointed out jealousy, ha..ha… Anyway you can’t shoot BLANK POINT cause if you do you will lose one bullet for nothing.
RAJA said
Hackman,
But if this anti indian sentiments continues then should not you think we stop helping them and tell them to take help from some others who they think their real friend country….waisting of money but no appreciation in return….hack man dont you believe that every relationship depends on both side’s attitute!! If I extend my hand towards you for shaking hand and in return if you try to twist my hand then do you think I will approch to you again?? Even India govt. has reduced its help towards bangladesh because of anti indian activities by their govt. …if nepal and its citizen continues this for long then same thing will happen to nepal also…let see who is coming for help!! mostly china as Mr. Prachanda (very much loyal to china) is on power.
pseude said
hackman and backbone…wow!
Hackman said
Pseude…wow…wow…wow!!!
Amit Bhandari said
Happy Birthday Barun! May all your dreams come true! God Bless You
Ranbir Thapa said
A VERY VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARUN!
Anil Roy said
Barun, wishing you a very very happy birthday from your family in Kolkata!
Anil, Baiju, Tarak, Usha, Miradidi, Biku, Uncle, Aunty and the friends at Ultadanga, Kankurgachi and Salt Lake.
সুভজন্মদন্
Anita said
A very Happy Birthday to you Barun!
from your Swedish friends
Anita & Pierre
You´re the best!
What a day this November 4th starting here in two hours time!
Your birthday and the for-the-whole-world-important
presidential election in the U.S.
Have to go to bed now in order to be fresh for Tuesday
JTM said
Jug jug jiyo mero bhai Barun. Janam din ko hardik badhai mero bahi Barun lai.
pranavesh said
Dear Barun, a very Happy Birthday to you. May you have a great year ahead!
Best Regards..
Shailendra Pradhan said
A VERY VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDDY!
BT said
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
backbone said
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BARUN. KEEP YOU HEAD HIGH IN EVERY SITUATION AND YOUR DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPAL EVER.
A said
A very very happy birthday Barun, you are the best! God Bless You!
Rakesh Agarwal said
जन्मदिन मुबारक हो! Barun you are doing a great job, keep it up.
Amit Bhandari said
Happy Birthday, Barun bhai
YKS said
Many Happy Returns of the day Bhai. Jiyo Hazaro Saal!!
mr.nepali said
Happy BirthDay!!!!!
cheeers!
JTM said
Congratulations to Indian American Sonal Shah, appointed on the US Presidents adivisory team.
From Proud Indian Gorkhas
Luen said
JTM my friend why the congratulation message to American Sonal Shah, ask if she is Indian and will definately say excuse me but I am American!! why the obsession of claiming these people to be Indians!! My friend ask me I know what their answer will be!!
Don’t waste your breath for someone we don’t even know!!
Be prepared to congratulate our Gorkhaland leaders and fighters instead when the day does eventually arrive!!!!
Gorkhaland Indian
Luen Lama
JTM said
Dear Luen We are also like her.
Indians of Nepali origin.
WE should also aspire to be like her.
Make it the top brass of India without the Gorkha props.
Barack Obama made it without getting emotional about being black. But once he made it. The whole world acclaimed him as the first black president of USA.
Without harping about it, we stll can retain our identity
I hope you understand.
aardee said
Good to see u got UTI ad
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Thank you. Am working very hard on that since Beacon Online was in the very of shutting down.
Did you download Safari? It seems that you are now being able to comment. Please let me know if you have any problem.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Perhaps you would like to insert this story.
TOI, New Delhi, Noveember 8, 2008
‘Darjeeling faces total shutdown from today’
by Deep Gazmer, TNN
Thank you, Jyoti didi
Jytmkh said
Can some one help me?
I am not able to post in my blog. When I click Publish some message comes and the post do not get publish. Secondly the content of the post is not geeting saved too.
I have WordPress Blog.
Thirdly I can upload the photos in the blog but it does not get saved. Please help me.
jyoti
barunroy said
Dear Jyoti Mukhia Da,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Please do accept my best wishes and deepest regards.
If you can trust me with your password, you can send me your account name and password and I can have a look. Once the problem has been solved you can change the password.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear barun
Perhaps you would like to post this story?
Asian Age Nov 9th
Bangla biggest problem: Gogoi
(The story relates to Assam, Bangladesh, Nepal and Burma)
Thanks, Jyoti di
JTM said
Dear Barun
Pl insert story
Kalka-Shimla rly gets heritage certificate, HT N0v 10
Darjeeling’s Toy train has a sister now
Thanks, Jyoti
jytmkh said
Thank you Barun,
It’s been solved automatically.
Next time when it happens I will surely remember to do what u said.
JTM said
Dear barun
TOI November 11
Climate Crisis:Maldives looks for a new country
I think this story will be interesting for Beacon. It reports on Mladives looking at options of buyimng land in India and Sri Lanka, because their islandic country is sinking by the day.
Thanks, Jyoti didi
JTM said
Dear Barun
HT Delhi Nov 10
Exams can wait, Drajeeling schools take protest break
Quote: “The students feel that there is no need for education as they do not have any future here. By taking part in this movement, they want to question what the government has done for them all these years.” Basant Rai, Headmaster, RKSP School.
Beacon should read what the national papers are reporting.
Thank you, Jyoti didi
JTM said
Also is reported that Anglo-Indian schools did not take part in the meeting of educational heads with Roshan Giri
JTM said
Dear Barun
Please kindly post the article ‘Vignettes when Shimla panicked in 1857′ at
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070214/himplus1.htm
This article will reveal to all about the Gorkha uprising in 1857 and hopefully put to an end the constant niggling of Jallianwala Bagh.
Thank you, Jyoti didi
JTM said
Also http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080622/edit.htm#4
Article called A militant turned Gandhian. though this article came out some months ago, it indicates the profile of Gurung presented in North India. Thank you, Jyoti didi
JTM said
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20081112/himplus1.htm
Today’s story ‘History in Ruins’ on Banesar Fort
Tks, Jyoti didi
PJ said
JTM didi, the links aren’t working…
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Thank you for sharing such wonderful articles.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
#421
oopps! sorry the links are alright..thank you Di
JTM said
Hope you enjoyed the pieces. Even barun has posted them on the LHS panel. All for the pan-India Gorkha identity knowledge
JTM said
Dear barun
Glad to know you are feeling better. You will have to take good care of your diet and walk everyday to control your diabetes.
I have a request to make of you. Please kindly delete my IP from Beacon. I do not want to participate in the blog forums. It is difficult to stay away voluntarily. Also please remove the Save Banesar Fort, Save the Gorkhas and Gorkhapedia, the three panels I initiated.
I started on this forum as a supporter of GL,to contribute on our history/heritage and share my views on current topics. But it is obvious that non-Darjeeling Gorkha do not fit into the movement. I have faced this dicrimination for a longtime, but continued nevertheless. I thought the gap could be bridged, but it seems that now is not the moment. I leave the field to darjeelingers and those opposing the GL movement from Bengal to debate and argue.
All the best darjeelingers.
Barun please do fulfill my request. When you enter something, there is a time to leave also. The time has come for me to depart. I think I have done my bit.
Thank you very much, Jyoti didi
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
I remember once when I said that I will give in, close up the blog and do something else. But then you were there who showed me the path and led the way. The best thing about The Himalayan Beacon is that I came to know you and among lot of other wonderful people. There are things that we believe in and stand by, what you have done may not be understood, remember even Christ was crucified. What Buddha preached has not yet been assimilated wholly by use. What you have done for Gorkhas all over the world is truly fantastic, which will forever be remembered by history. But then again there will be detractors and people who will try to pull you down. Don’t let them win. If you go I am sure, we will all be pulled down and brought to the ground. When I was threatened and some people made calls saying that they will kill me – there were people who told my mother that she will be burnt alive and I was so disappointed that I made plans to live India and settle down somewhere abroad, my mother told me that I owed it to my ancestors to fight and stand up for my conviction no matter what. A part of that conviction was based on you as well. I stood ground and today the calls, emails and comments that I receive threatening me and my family, it only makes me happy that I am inching steadily towards my goal. The Himalayan Beacon is the embodiment of the fact that Gorkhas are alive and kicking all over the world – not just in Darjeeling Hills that intellectual, spiritual and physical unification of Gorkhas all over the world is eminent and it will happen no matter what… we have partly achieved that – in the sense that even though we haven’t met we are so much spiritually attached with each other as brother and sister, one day this attachment will be felt by each blogger in this forum… one day we will all be united and we will all be able to respect each other. Believe we are inching steadily towards that. Tomorrow Gorkhaland – the Israel of Gorkhas, a virtual Gorkhaland of sort in the cyber space will be more powerful and more eminent than the real Gorkhaland – and to achieve this we will not have to fight Governments but our own limitations. You are a prominent harbinger of that dream and I will have nothing to have it if my elder sister is not there to guide me and help me. If Gorkhas from Darjeeling Hills feels that Gorkhas from the rest of the world do not count then I have this to say …. rise, see there is a world beyond the horizon… Gorkhaland with boundaries may last for some time but the Gorkhaland, as a unified conciousness will last forever. The Himalayan Beacon is the quest to search for that ideological Gorkhaland where Gorkhas from all over the world will not just be in one physical boundary but in one conscious brotherhood encompassing all boundaries, all nations and all lands.
Now, didi, what we are working here for today is far greater than any thing, our goal is far more important… tomorrow, our Gorkhaland will be far beyond human made physical boundaries… it will be beyond religion, cast, land and nations… It will be a unification of souls. This idea will then be copied and used to unify all races and all people and one day we would be able to look back and say by simple ways and means we were able to create a better world. Of course, our detractors will dub us as fools and plain and simple idiots but then again who cares… every person who came out and desired to do some good were called the same. These detractors are only putting us in the leagues of Great People. In fact, they are indirectly praising us, accepting that we are doing the right thing while they stand there by the fence doing nothing.
I will disrespectfully not do anything – you have asked. I will not give the detractors any scope to rejoice… I will however, hope and pray to you to please come back… Our Gorkhaland will encompass the world and not just Darjeeling. The Capital of our Gorkhaland will be people like you… who is a living soul of that Gorkha consciousness and not just some town.
I call upon all the bloggers who visit this site – Please do not just visit and read news… come participate and unite in that one unified ideology that Gorkhaland. Create a universal brotherhood, come be a part of a dream and be a doer. Don’t just stand and poke fingers at each other but try to understand others and share whatever you can share about yourself.
Please unite… create an ethos of respect for the elders, humility towards juniors and pleasant brotherly love for your equals.
Regs
Barun
DobRub said
“tomorrow, our Gorkhaland will be far beyond human made physical boundaries… it will be beyond religion, cast, land and nations… It will be a unification of souls. This idea will then be copied and used to unify all races and all people and one day we would be able to look back and say by simple ways and means we were able to create a better world.”
Dear Barun,
Thanks for posting above comments but do you think it is possible !!! Ghandhiji used to think like that but see what is happening now in free india!!
Jyoti (didi) dont give chance to those persons who is trying to pull your leg here…fight with them logically …we are with you.
RAJA said
“tomorrow, our Gorkhaland will be far beyond human made physical boundaries… it will be beyond religion, cast, land and nations… It will be a unification of souls. This idea will then be copied and used to unify all races and all people and one day we would be able to look back and say by simple ways and means we were able to create a better world.”
Dear Barun,
Thanks for posting above comments but do you think it is possible !!! Ghandhiji used to think like that but see what is happening now in free india!!
Jyoti (didi) dont give chance to those persons who is trying to pull your leg here…fight with them logically …we are with you.
(P.s: sORRY STILL i’m not out of dobrub comments which he has made somewhere in other blog room (requesting jtm to taste beef)….am very much feeling irritate to that person’s comments against our religious sentiment …..uncounsiously I typed his name instead of mine…hell!!!
RAJA said
sORRY STILL i’m not out of dobrub comments which he has made somewhere in other blog room (requesting jtm to taste beef)….am very much feeling irritate to that person’s comments against our religious sentiment …..uncounsiously I typed his name instead of mine…hell!!!
RAJA said
Barun can check IP address from where Dobrub is writing and from where I’m posting … everything would be clear….
JTM said
Dear Raja and Barun
I am withdrawing because not Of Jyoti Mukhia and the likes attacking and making me feel like an outsider. This attitude is noy only his but also the leaders like the BGP tho they go around trying to rope in members to give credence to their Bhartiya Gorkha identity.
Actually they are right I am an outsider alongwith the other Gorkha Indians outside the proposed GL state area. I do not know about Bimal Gurung because I have not had any dialogue with him on the subject. So I will give him benefit of doubt.
But statements from Darjeeling/Kalimpong like:
GChhetri: Who is Guru nanaK?
Without any thought 1) that statements like these will hurt the Sikhs and endangers the Gorkha community in Punjab and India (as it is they are fighting off the stigma of Jallianwala Bagh) and 2)in turn will hamper the GL movement if it comes to the notice of Sikhs.
Dobrob talking about sending ‘beef to me and the Gorkhas in Bhagsu’ without thinking that it will hurt Hindu Gorkhas( Majority are Hindus. Christian Nepalis are mostlly in Darjeeling) and again endanger the Gorkhas living in a BJP govt state which prides itself in calling the Devbhoomi….. and in turn hamper the GL movement once it comes to the notice of the Hindutva groups.
Under the circumstances I would like to appeal to India that we Gorkhas from outside the Darjeeling district, which means Gorkhas of Northwest India and Northeast India do not share the same thinking as these kind of people.
We are Indians and have respect for all and expect them to also have respect for us be it HP, Uttarkahnd, Ounjab, Jammu and Assam, Manipur, Nagaland and other Gorkha habitats in the NE, west, east and the South of India.
What respect the proposed GL area people want or do not want from India is their chice.
Thank you. From a Himachali Gorkha Indian.
YKS said
Hey JTM,
Withdrawing is not a solution. Remember I too did the same once, but if we do that, then all the rogues will have a field day here.
JTM said
Irrespective of what else he does, Bimal Gurung was right in questioning why North Point asked students to come on Guru Nanak’s birthday. If extra classes where reqd, they could have been asked to come on holy sundays. In professional life if there is work, we also work on sundays.
Guru Nanakji is one of the most important gurus of India. Not only the Sikhs.
JTM said
Daer YKS, thanks to these rogues who are first xxxxx, then Gorkhas (including Mr Mukhiya) have not only earned the dislike of evrybody but also endangers all the Gorkhas in India and the world. Thanks to them, very soon we will all getting dandas from everywhere. For GL to exist as per the diktats of these rogues, we will all have to change our names. All the years of good relations that we cultivated where we live will all go down the drain for all the nonsensical beliefs these guys are propagating. They have no idea how sensitive and tough the Sikhs are. If they come to know about what GChhetri said, they are capable of raising an all-India movement against GL and NP school also. And for the Hindu terror groups. Jyoti Mukhiya will not have a chance if they decide to descend on Darj. At most they will complain to the Pope,who will issue a warning to India and beatify another long-pending Sister Alphonso. Poor lady, for years she was not recognised, but in the wake of the ant-Christian attacks in India, the vatican suddenly decided to beatify here. Good for her. She was supposed to be a great human being though I did not know her. I think Mother Teresa has still not not been declared a saint, am I right?
Mr Mukhya calls me poison and a polluting influence and that he has a great posn in intellectual and political circles. He is also a diehard Christian (Aye for that). I am also a Hindu but not a diehard one (in the sense I do not blindly defend Hindu faults, because no huan being or priest is perfect). However all that is immaterial. But what is important to him is just to defend his Christian school NP and practices. That is sorry, not very civilised thinking as per the intellectual image he projects of himself. How sad.
You know Mr Mukhiya to cure a cobra bite, you need an antedote from the cobra’s venom itself. Maybe I am that anedote from the venom itself.
I will only appear as per comments directed to me on contact me. For other lines I am dead. Unless yu want a haunting ghost.
Bye Bye
Jytmkh said
JTM,
I don’t know why you got infuriated against me. I had put forward my opinion as you had done. Is it because my opinion was in contrast to yours? I have accepted and respected so many of your contrasting comments but never took it personally. here again you are personally attacking me. I am a Christian no doubt but there is no such things I said which looks diehard.
Come on JTM, we had fought earlier too and we do have differences but it should be there. with these differences we learn and unlearn so many things.
If the things which you do not like are found in Darjeeling hills what can one do? Darjeeling is not a samll village , it is a district and many people live here. One has to take all of them into consideration.
You are right in not accepting Gorkhas (Nepalis) eating beef. Fine but one cannot impose the idea that Gorkhas should not eat? One cannot judge that he/ she is not a gorkha. You did not like my defending the NP school and Fr. Kinley it is because I presented the real scenario and facts which was incontrast to what you believed. But what is harm in not believing? I did say “do not poison the hills”, it is because your comments were communal and communalism has not started in the hills till date. I do not know why are you taking my name is it because we are friends and I commented against you? We are in the blog not in our personal sphere.
Cheer up JTM, we all respect you and your thoughts but only problem is you take everything personally and start attacking personally.
BTW, I am being transferred from my present location, I will be moving out within a week.Who knows we will be meeting in person. Till then Bye. Keep blogging JTM, you are a sweet sweet natkhat and chichhi lady.
JTM said
Communalism IS a reality in the hills. That is why the umbrella of Gorkha and demand for Gorkhaland has been adopted. Why do they NOt want the name Darjeeling? (because then the Nepalis will have a problem).
In my understanding Darjeeling district consists of Nepalis who are Hindus, Christians and Buddhists. There are a myriad of people of ethnic origin from Nepalis to Sherpas to Lepchas to Bhutias to plains origin people.
The Christians there have a situation of being the only Gorkhas community in India who are Christians, and so I understand are extra sensitive about themselves and their missionary schools, etc
People eat beef, etc as it is a part of the diet of the non-Hindu hill society. Somewhere even the Hindus there have started eating beef because it is the local culture.
With all these factors in mind the Darjeeling society know they are DIFFRENT from Gorkha socities. That is they are shuttered towards other Gorkhas or the Gorkha regiments, whose culture and societies are the predominant ones by which the Gorkhas are known.
No problems. But what they do not realise that they do need the goodwill of both (Gorkha communities and the Gorkha regts) to get national support for the umbrella of the Gorkha they have adopted.
Therefore Darjeeling has to move a few steps to understand and adopt the Gorkha to be able to hold the handle and carry the umbrella of the GORKHA.
They cannot expect to remain exactly as they are and become Gorkhaland, Land of the Gorkhas
If they want a new social ethnic identity, they have to able to adapt to what the identity means.
What I find is they cannot move a few inches form their existing identities to make space for the identity they want.
Change your attitude towards the Gorkhas (is it out of insecurity or some complex?) Get their goodwill and support with trust.
Otherwise, GL will not happen and I dread what darj will go through if does’nt.
And Jyot Mukhiya, you are still talking a big deal of rubbish.
JTM said
Whats wrong with you? Have you become a Padre or what?
JTM said
Instead of fighting over the identity, Gorkhas should just file a case in the highest court of Indian law on Indian citizens of Nepali origin. And all who have called us foreigners should be individually named and persecuted in court.
No mlre stone throwing and abusing each other
It will shut up the mouths for once and for all.
REad the Indian Citizenship Acts,
‘………………………for the point of view of Indian citizenship, the sate ‘domicile’ has no significance whatsoever, except for specific purposes, for instance succession, levy of estate duty, etc.
JTM said
People please do not fight. Just address the case to the Supreme Court. Harassment of Nepali Indians/Gorkhas. With the Indian Citizenship acts, the majority of the Nepali speaking people of India will be ruled Indian Citizens. The rest still legal residents according to the 1950 India-Nepal treaty. If one crore Gorkha/Nepalis are bonafide Indian citizens, there is a case of providing suitable ethnic recognition to them and tO PREVENT DISCRIMINATION and the ‘outsider’ tag on them, in whichever state they reside. A citizen is a citizen, there is no difference whether they speak Nepali or Bengali or Punjabi.
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G chettri said
Just quoting one sentence and project me as rouge is something very sad. I think even sikh will understand the context in what I am writing.
People dies in vehicle accident all the time now talking of delhi also blue line kills people almost every day minor injuries happens by vehicle every second in delhi so to blame SIkh Principal for accident for not providing holiday in Xmas Day is how justified it is.
Secondly I have a right to my opinion
“Holidays are biased in India” for almost 90% people in Darjeeling hills we are ignorant of other community Gurus, If they learn and show respect to our Gurus we would respect them also.
Thirdly Have you any idea about sansari mai, Makal baba people diety for the people here they are more important than other communities Guru.
So Iam an Ignorant Gorkha.
But I am not baised I dont maintain different standard for different religious group different standard for christian, Different standard for Sikh, Different standard for hindus.
Finally y r u dragging me in this. U come here or not is upto you. My comment is my comment it does not represent Gorkha community of Darjeeling Hills.
Please stop blaming Gorkha Community of Darjeeling Hills all the time.
Dont generalise our comment.What you write we take it as your comment not North Western Indian Gorkha community Comment. I have lots of friend from there they dont think as u think.
G chettri said
And also comment against immeidiate communities like lepchas(comment like they come from Tibet)and bhutias here without realizing situation here is not a big deal but comment on Guruji of seven state away works against GL wow what a moral guardian
YKS said
Well G Chettrijiu, without being apologetic, I never addressed you as rogue (in fact,your posts have become lot more sober now). I had used the term in a generic term and if someone specifies you, then I can’t help that. She has even clubbed Jyoti Mukhia is that category and I have a lot of respect for Jyoti Mukhia bhai.
Shanto Roy said
Dear Mr. Roy,
I liked the stuff your site speaks about, especially on the popularity of communism in west bengal. It’s true that the communists are making the state go down the drain and none can deny the fact that they are against anything that are going to benefit the people unless it is beneficial to the communists themselves. However, I think the lady who authored the article missed out on a vital point: Communism speaks about being at par with everyone else, therefore;
1. If it’s truly communism, what makes the Communists deny the rights of the housemaid?
2. The communism here brings people down and makes them equal to the ones who are already down, instead of pulling them up to the upper levels of the society.
3. Why do the police here differentiates between an influential person and a plebeian that I am or you are?
I think these are the points that should also to be focussed on.
dr.kalyan basnet said
8 Feb. 009
SAARC = common begging bowl.
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Nepali DADs, Indian,……. DADs dead. Nepali pitajis, Indian,……..pitajis, fathers,…. of Europe, America,… will live, till the human being, will survive in the earth.
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medical Dr.
you proud, always selfish, jealous, extremely uncooperative, over intelligent, over smart, over confident, money minded, luxurious, corrupt, always running for money,…who were and are educated, trained,.. from, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, united kingdom, America [USA ],…who were and are continuously thought, think, act, the ill persons as money earning commodities, if more people were became and become ill in particular, adverse seasons, time, situation, then these Dr. thought, and continually thinking and acting as good time for earning maximum money, from these ill people. why you were and are prescribing, paracetamol, ibuprofen, nemoslide,.. like anti pyretic drugs, to all patients, from infant to very old people, in any patient of fever [ increase of body temperature from normal level
{about 98.4 degree Fahrenheit scale, or about 38 degree centigrade scale } ], even in slightly increase body temperature of the ill person, even who are living in cold region like higher altitude mountainous regions, even in very cold winter season also, who are at the sane time, also suffering from other medical disease, like chronic under nutrition, anemia, under weight, under feed, infant, children, or adult, old ill people, due to this, were and is causing, flare up of infection in these patients , who were and are dying because of septicemias, simply because of over treatment of even in slightly rising body temperature of all patients, with your above mentioned anti pyretic drugs, which were and are causing suppression of ill people’s immunities power, immunities mechanism, although FEVER is, usually ill person’s bodily natural, normal response mechanism to control, overcome the already infecting, harmful, disease causing, pathogens [ which are usually, harmful, bacteria, viruses, parasites,….] . you do not know that fever is sign not disease. first of all you must treat the infection urgently with sensitive, specific,.. antibiotics, antiviral, anti parasites, anti spirocactes,….. so that infection will be controlled, overcome in the body of ill patients, as a result fever will be subsided and the temperature of the patient will be normal. when the patience survived from infection, then there will be no more fever. if there is no fever then no need to prescribe above mentioned antipyretics to those ill people who are suffering from infection, which are causing fever. fever is sign of infection not disease. if there is fever, you over confidant Dr. must know that, usually the ill person’s body is responding very nicely to control, to overcome the invading, disease causing, bacteria or viruses, or spirochetes, parasites or other disease causing pathogen. if you always prescribe above mentioned anti pyretic drug to the each and every types of fever cases, then you are doing criminal deeds to your ill persons [ patients ] because any antipyretic drug suppress the rising bodily temperature, causing sever suppression, interference, disturbances,…of ill person’s [ suffering from infection ] defense mechanism, immunity power, immunity system,.. .as a result patients had been died, and are dying due to flare up of infection leading to septicemia. why are you doing these types of heinous crimes to the diseased people, in the name of treatment. are these the knowledge, wisdom, education,…taught by your over knowledgeable professors, from where you were graduated, is being, educated, trained,… paying hundreds of thousands of rupees as donation fees for your education, in your very very money minded, very very expensive, very very hi- fy medical colleges, medical universities, medical institutes?
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21 Jan. 009
Chinese, you are massively polluting the atmosphere through your out dated, gas juggling heavy industries, every day increasing millions of motor vehicles in your china too,…..to make matter worse, why you Chinese were and are chain smokers of cigarette ? which were and are doing harm to your health, were and is shortening your precious lives, at the same time you cigarette smokers Chinese, you were and are harming the health of your children, your families, your communities,….. through passives smoking effects. as ever increasing millions of motors vehicles, in your china too. just 2-3 decades ago bicycles was so loved, popular in your china, lives was so simple, all the human basic necessary things, most essential requirements, e.g., simple but balanced diet, warm comfortable cotton clothes, cotton’s warm soft foot wears, head wears,…………….. in winter season, all the education needed, materials:- all the books, pens, writing papers, etc,…..all the sports needed playing materials, supports, clothes, sports wears, sports grounds, plying grounds,… were available, every where in very affordable prices or freely, like alcohols, tobacco materials, health hazardous substances were, and always continually available in always spoiled third world countries, like:- Nepal, India,… before reform china was simples, very healthy, sound, no disturbances et all. At that time there were no thieves, dacoits, cheaters, deceivers ,thugs, lazy crowd, vagabonds, dadas, heroes, heroines, bluffers, dacoits, At that time china was, very very simple, life was very very easy, all the essential things, commodities, was abundances every where, people were very friendly, helpful, polite, healthy, physical exercise was very very poplar in china. There were no fatty, obese, not physically fit people in china at that time. Because of balanced, essential diets, regular compulsory exercises, hard physical labors, proper, good rest facilities,… all the Chinese were physically fit, sound, slim, work hardened……Foods, shelters, playing and sports facilities, large green parks,…were every where. there were no prostitutes, brothels, casinos, drug addicts, smugglers, corrupt, criminals in china. every body were equal, all Chinese were respecting and supporting, helping, learning from each other. At that time people were respected, for simplicities, high thinking, good works for the communities, societies, country. people were not respected for luxurious lives styles, rich lives, sophisticated lives, vulgar lives, lazy lives, selfish lives. rich and corrupt criminals were not able to show their hi-fi lives through, expensive cars, luxurious car, motor vehicles, luxurious, personal houses, homes, luxurious , expensive food materials, dinning halls, like citizens of America, Nepal, India, were and are showing their corrupt money, through, expensive cars, pazero, expensive clothes, expensive foods, expensive education, expensive ornaments, expensive , luxurious lives styles, expensive homes, expensive luxurious health care facilities, treatment facilities in private clinics, nursing homes,..….…at that time there were hundreds of millions of Chinese who used to ride bicycles every day, so that there was automatic physical exercises, for the millions of Chinese, at the same time there was automatic preservation of nature in china at that time. Before reform, china was beautiful, tranquil, developing wisely, systematically, all the Chinese were passing their lives happily. At that time china was happy ,tranquil, peaceful, disciplined, very safe, children were loved, old people were cared. Chinese were living, working,………..simply, frugally, wisely , as hundreds of millions of Chinese people were using bicycles, in the roads of all over china, so there was less pollutions. you Sons and daughters of about 30 years ago china , how rapidly, haphazardly, learned, followed the luxurious America, Europe and added hundreds of millions of motor vehicles, causing ever increasing dangerous pollutions in your luxurious, capitalist, money minded, consumer oriented,.. modernizing china ? Except large industrial cities shanghai, thianjing, canton, etc towns, all the villages areas of your vast country china , was, clean, clear ,fine. at that time air of Beijing was very clear, healthy, fine. sky of Beijing of that time used to be very clear,…….you hundreds of millions of Chinese cigarette smokers, …..you are adding the pollution, causing cumulating effects on environmental pollution, to the all ready sick mother earth, due to world wide ever-increasing environmental pollution. did you Chinese learned the chain smoking habits of cigarette smoking from your late chair man Mao, late reformist leader teng siao ping, who were also chain smokers in their lives.
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Indians were and are numerous types of Gypsy crowd, who were and are dirty, filthy, lazy, not innocent, cheaters,………………..producing too many children, who were and are causing un controllable human over population not only in already over crowed , always backward, always remained and is being remained impoverish, unmanaged,…………… India, but Indians over crowd, rapidly burdening the all over the world, due to their ever increasing, migrating population of skilled, semi skilled, unskilled Indian crowd to the countries of whole world. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Kat-man-do
all Nepalese are becoming very rapidly, Khates [street crowds ], sukumbasis [ bankrupts ],……, they produce black plastic bags with the help of Bihari [Indians ] ,they use black plastics bags, through, garbage, rubbish, dirty house hold wastages,… inside these black plastic bags, out from windows of their homes, litter the roads, foot paths, open spaces, corner of the streets, roads,…..are making the villages, towns, so called cities very dirty, filthy, bad smelling, ugly looking,.. usually after evening time , bastard boys, khate boys who always live on begging, with foot pathers, do cheating, looting,…these street living spoiled boys, smoke, sniff, intake, inject intravenously all available addictive substances : – tobacco products, marijuana, hasis, charesh , glue, addictive drugs, industrially used chemical substances,…..they are becoming dangerous drug addicts, ….. these Khates boys and drug addicts, alcoholics, vagabonds, criminals, smugglers, prostitutes, middle man and women for prostitutes, child traffickers, women trafficers, gamblers,….always do undisciplined, un ethical, corrupt,. harmful,… deeds, in Katmandu, Pokara, Dhahran, Birganj, Butwal, etc, towns, villages of spoiled country, Nepal. these spoiled crowd do not work at all, they are completely illiterates street people, they put on the fire on those piles of plastic garbage, old tires,…… which produce, choking, very harmful, blackish, poisonous,….. fumes, which are causing suffocations, particularly to near by residing ill people, old people, new born child, sick, weak people, due to severe air pollution in the extremely narrow streets, extremely primitives, rotten , old, not maintained, crowded, Katmandu specially in cold, dark, winter in Nepal.
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majorities of Nepalese are chronic alcohol abusers, Ganja [ cannabis ] smokers [ majorities of Latta dhari BABAs { JOGIs } who leave home, left family responsibilities, surviving on begging, live on temples, Hindu pilgrimage places, Hindu religious places, in Nepal and India, do not work, are cannabis smoking addicts, they pass rest of their life, smoking cannabis all the time, begging,.. in the villages, towns. All the drug addicts are multi substances abusers, so they go to nearby temples to smoke GANJA with these JOGIs= BABAs, who always posses GANJA with them. In Nepal and India ganja smoking were not and is not illegal. those teenager who learn ganja smoking, who later become cannabis smoking addicts, most of them are learning ganja smoking from these baba=jogis. Ganja was and is easily available in Nepal and India, because ganja plants easily grow up in the most of the lands of Nepal and India, from the low , plain land to higher hilly and mountainous regions, from tropical climate to cooler mountainous regions of Nepal, India. some farmer in Nepal and India are doing ganja farming, because ganja farming is easy and well paid crops for farmers ] , …drug addicts [ illicit drug users : - phensidyl, fortwin, pethedine, codein , proxyvon,…….], smugglers
not having civic senses, acting vandalisms, destructives, not peace loving
rowdy, chronic mass gamblers, rough, indecent, criminals, unruly
always proud to break the social orders, social norms and laws, ……
from mental hospital, Katmandu , Nepal
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Date:- 24 dec., 008
BBC [ British broadcasting corporation ? ]
Bush house , London , UK
You proud white people, particularly British who were and are working for BBC, do not always become too much smart, you were and are doing nuisance, harmful, undisciplined,… deeds, through out the world, by your always impolite, proud, irresponsible,…. news service program. do not continuously use impolite language to the honorable, his majesty’s the kings, her majesty’s the queens [ because they were and are the symbol, history,….. of related nation ], respected seniors, respected presidents, respected prime ministers, respected teachers, respected
religious leaders, …….. of any religions of any community of the world,
respected professors,…. in BBC news service, particularly in BBC Nepali
program. Because by listening , seeing,… your such, impolite [why you
British too are becoming impolite ? you were and are not supposed to
speak, write, use, such impolite language. are you learning the impolite language from communists, criminals, under world mafias, street gangs, corrupt, un ethical, spoiled , rotten, broken families, societies, persons, circles,……?] BBC news service program, children of whole world will be
impolite . fire and kick out immediately, your not respectful, good for
nothing, proud, extremely impolite, rough, rowdy, un civilized, Nepali
staffs [ who in the past were all Brahmins and at present also majorities
are Brahmins , who are most proud, impolite, over smart, always dominating to others, extremely selfish,…..caste. you extremely selfish, arrogant,
proud Brahmins, as you respect others you will be respected by others in the same manners. if you are insulting others your children will certainly insult you] , who are employed for BBC, Nepali service in UK ,
Nepal , USA and rest of the world.
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Date:- 6 Nov. ,008
live in cool, green mountainous villages.
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If you were and are spending, time , money, mind, resources,……for artificial beatification, make up, decoration of own self’s physical body
only, and polluting, harming, neglecting, burdening,…… to the nature,
sooner or latter, surely you will be made ugly by god.
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You Indians don’t litter, make dirty, filthy, rotten, stinky, blackish,
bad smelling, dusty , ugly, colorless, un shiny, hopeless, helpless ,sleepy, depressed, un maintained, lousy, rubbish, noisy, eroded, not neat, not clean, not green, apathetic, not
polite, rough,…..every where. You lazy, dishonest, dirty, filthy, un tidy, not clean, not neat,…. Indians, do not believe in horoscope, do not deceive hundreds of millions of other lazy, dirty Indians, by practicing horoscope. You will reap your crops as you bow the seeds, do labor, do affection, do care, to your plantation,
farming, agriculture.
Jaisa karoge oisa bharoge. Jaisa karam karoge oisa phal dega bhagaban, ye hai gita ka gyan. You dirty Indians no need to keep your mustache for serving your parents, to become obedient to your parents , to become masculine [ to become a Mard ] , to become manliness,………..You dirty Indians, you can serve your parents, you can become obedient to your
parents [ pitri bhakta ] , you can become masculine, you can become manly,…….with clean shave of your mustache. You can serve your parents, you can be obedient to your parents during parents’ life time, even you shave your mustache cleanly. Do good, heroic deeds to become manliness, |rather than keeping your mustaches,….. with your terrible mustache you
dirty Indians, you rather look like Ravan not like Ram. You dirty Indians,
do not always enjoy by blocking, obstructing,.. the other people to flourish, to get opportunities, to get better chances,…by putting hurdles, bottle necks,… using dirty tricks,…..in the
pathways of lives of other people.
nature is colorful, beautiful,…..
beautiful different color of flowers, fruits, birds, plants, trees, ripe
crops,…….…were and is being given by god.
If we pass light through light dispersing medium like prism, in lab. the
light will be dispersed into many beautiful colors : – red, violet, ultraviolet, orange, indigo, yellow, green, blue, . in nature also [
except in desert ], we were and are seeing different beautiful colors, on
near by sky and land, on the land region and on the near by sky and sea
surface, if we are in ship, on the sea, at the time of partly rain and
partly sun shine period or soon after rain fall, during rainy season,
which is called rain bow. Then why you Indian were and are not using god
provided different beautiful colors, [ which were and are provided freely
by god and was and is available in abundance, in nature all over the
world, including in your India ] , in your life , in your, dirty,
filthy,….home , villages, surroundings, neighborhoods, towns, cities,….?
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root cause of world’s problems are : – overpopulation due to continuous
refusal of family planning and continuous refusal of available scientific methods of family planning, by the hundreds of millions illiterate
population in third world countries, alcohol abuse, drug addicts, mass
gambling, prostitutions, vulgar way of life, ever increasing un discipline
in world communities,…
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do not become and do not make popular to any body by cheap, not Nobel,…means, Methods…..
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you black Indians, do not make , use and through every where the black
plastic bags. You black Indians, do not always make, deign, construct, make abundances, produce,….every things blacks around you. You blank Indians try your best for beautiful colors .
You black Indians, you wear black cloths, make environment black, think,
act black, make only black plastic bags, using only black plastic bags,
throwing black plastic bags every where,.. because, your soul, heart,
brain,…… are also black,….
You illiterate, un-cooperative, dirty, lazy, overweight, over crowded, violent,…. Tamil people of Tamil Nadu, India, you are destroying your southern neighboring country Sri lanka, since more than 25 years, which was and is still being trying to exist as a very peaceful, tranquil, beautiful,. Island nation.
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Do believe in simple living and higher thinking.
Small is beautiful. Seeing is believing.
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Prohibit gambling, alcohol abuse, prostitution… in the societies of whole
world.
Close all brothels, casinos, extravagant, ultra luxurious life, activities…….
Severely punish all those journalists, who were and are using indecent,
uncivilized, irresponsible, rough, rowdy guy’s ,street guy’s, dada guy’s,
hooligan’s, vandalist’s, unsocial, un ethical, nuisance, insulting, cheap, impolite, vagabond’s, criminal’s, bastard’s,…. languages in : – writings,
speaking, commenting, editing, broad castings, …..
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wear old coat, buy new books.
Education start from home, neighborhood.
Promote, popularize , make,…. education, compulsory, popular, universal,
famous, easy, accessible, to all and make it liked and loved by every one.
Promote, popularize the education,…. through, available schools, colleges, universities, open schools, open colleges, open universities. Promote, popularize education and through, available mass communication medias : – TV. radio, news papers, magazines, Internet, cinemas, music, play, arts…,||for the people whole world, particularly to the people who live in always
third world, always back ward, always not developing, always remaining
poor, always lazy, always remaining illiterates. people of these regions, particularly, to the people of Africa, south Asia : – Bangladesh , India , Pakistan , Srilanka , Nepal , south east Asia : – Burma , Indonesia , Thailand , Malaysia , Philippines , Vietnam , Cambodia , Laos , etc ….. Main land Asia: – china, north Korea , Mongolia , where though population were and are
already over crowded . Always respect , request, motivate old, seniors
citizens { senior people} to teach their valuable life long experiences,
wisdom, knowledge, skills, arts,…… to teach, guide, …. young generations :
children, teen ages , young people, adult people. Always respect ,
request, motivate old, seniors citizens { senior people} to share life
long experiences, wisdom, knowledge, skills, …with other seniors citizens { senior people}, ………so that we can continuously enrich our societies.
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Make physical works , exercise , physical activities,…compulsory, in all
schools, colleges, universities, offices, corporate,
in all fields, professions, to all from top to bottom [ to all ranks and
files ] , from children to adult population to old people, particularly in all over crowed, cramped, highly polluted cities, and towns of third world countries : – Peking, Delhi, Bangkok, shanghai, Calcutta, Dhaka, Cairo, new York ghetto areas, London, cities and towns of Africa, brazil : – Sao
Paulo,…., Mexico, central America……
do not spent time, money, mind, resources,……to make luxuries palaces,
stars hotels, luxury resorts, casinos, rather utilize
above mentioned time, money, mind, resources….to build open green spaces,
foot paths, freely walking, freely roaming, running green fields, picnics spots, playing ground for children without charge, open door sports facilities, for the common people of every where : – in all cities, in all owns, in all sub urban regions, in all villages. Do not make concrete
jungles any more. Particularly in small countries of Europe, do not privatize all open lands, green lands, pasture lands, national parks,……so that all the people, even the poor people may go there for walking, highking, trekking, to see, enjoy the nature in open space under the open
sky, freely without any charges,… Utilize the above mentioned time, money, mind, resources….to make available open spaces, for walking, for running, for cycling,… utilize above mentioned time, money, mind, resources….to build : – playing grounds, sports facilities, to the common people of whole world, particularly to the people of always over populated third world countries,
who always remain back ward, always not developing, always remaining poor,
always lazy, always remaining illiterates people of these regions, particularly, to the people of African, Indians,….Attract, Promote, popularize the agriculture, farming , horticulture,
flowering, plantations, irrigations,… Attract, Promote, popularize … the greening of cities, towns, down town areas, public places, both sides of roads, high ways, rail ways lines, canals, ……, at the banks of ponds, lakes, rivers, in all the villages as much as possible. Try our best to
protect the remaining forests of all the hills, mountains regions…
try our best to reforest all the hills, mountains regions,… make universal, compulsory death penalties for the all criminals, who were, and are cruelly, intentionally, soullessly,…set fires, on dried, forests, jungles, plantation areas, ……, all the green regions of whole world, whether developed countries or not developed countries of the whole world. make universal, compulsory death penalties for the all criminals who were and are earning black moneys by means of lugging, cutting trees, destroying,
burning, young plants of plantation areas, forests areas… make universal compulsory death penalties for the all criminals who are making this criminal professions as livelihoods.
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Pray to god for better not to born and live in hot, dry, dusty countries.
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Chinese and Indians are narrow minded. people from both countries
dangerously believe that they were and are citizens of : – great
countries, most ancient civilization, were and are believing large
countries hegemonic.
Chinese are like robots, they followed Russia after about 25 years behind
and became communists, followed Europe after about 100 years behind and
dreaming and copying from Europe haphazardly to become capitalists,
modern, luxurious, sophisticated, fast developing country.
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You American stop your car culture, enough is enough. You were and are
teaching your children the car culture, as a social prestige, since more than one hundred years. Otherwise you will be doomed very soon.
America as you are making the D V lottery as the qualification for going to your dream land America from the lazy countries like Nepal, India, Africa, and other third world countries ,
you are certainly making the your dream land America another third world country in very near future.
China , India, south east Asia : – Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, ….,
brazil, east European countries, break away countries of former soviet
union, Russia, any newly industrializing countries, who are being able to
break the vicious cycle of poverty, do not follow the American car
culture, otherwise all of you will also be doomed like America in near future.
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date: 2 nov.,008,
love physical labor and always do it.
Never be lazy like Indians, Africans, ….
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no body could buy and never can buy, good health, healthy life, happy, and|
beautiful life, long life,…… by money.
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do not think, believe, act, that medical doctors, health personals,
nursing home, doctor’s clinic, hospitals, health institutions, will
provide you, health, healthy and long life, because, medical doctors,
health personals, themselves are : – over weighed, alcohol abuser, smoker,
drug addicts,
physically not hardened, fit,…. due to these causes so called Dr. themselves
are suffering from preventable diseases: – diabetes mellitus, hyper lipidimia,
gout, cardio vascular disease.- hypertension, ischemic heart diseases;
alcohol abused liver diseases; hypertension induced renal failure, cancer….. …….
these people are thinking, believing, raised and trained for running for money, passing
stressful life,.. themselves. Medical doctors are certainly not trying to their best to become the model for good heath, healthy, happy, beautiful lives for the common people of the world, particularly, Dr. from India , Nepal , Bangladesh ,..
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eat balanced, and essential, needful, less fat, less carbohydrate, less
protein, plenty of green vegetables, salads diet. Usually Daily requirements of food mainly depends upon the daily physical labor, more you do physical work more requirement of foods, vice versa less you do daily physical labor less requirement of daily foods. Quantities,
qualities,. of food requirements also depends upon the height, weight ,.. of your bodies, if you are already obese, short, small, little built; require less daily food, but if you are tall, having broader, larger frame work of your body structures, lean, thin, under weight ,..the quantities,
qualities,.. of daily food must be increased, improved. At the same time,
if the person is suffering from chronic diseases : – tuberculosis, HIV /AIDS,….then the daily requirements of foods, must be increased, improved. The quantities, qualities of food also depends upon the age also, smaller the age , more the requirement of quantities and improved
qualities of daily foods, so the smaller the age of children , greater the requirement of daily foods in quantities, qualities,. because smaller the age of children faster the physical and mental development. the quantities, qualities of food must be increased, in pregnancy, lactating mothers
also. Qualities of food must increased in older age also , older the age
there must be better the nutrition.
If you are living in colder regions e.g. Siberia, Canada, Alaska, Norway, Sweden,
Finland, Iceland, Green Land, Denmark, northern and higher altitude regions of Russia, USA, Europe, Japan, china, at the base of Himalaya , at
the higher the altitude of mountainous regions, New Zeeland, and southern
part of Australia, southern tip of the Chile, Argentina,….you need more food: – fat, carbohydrate, protein, etc,…..specially in winter season.
more we
go to the northern hemisphere, southern hemisphere, higher the altitude of
mountainous regions,.. and try to live there we need
more foods. because
more we go to northern hemisphere, southern hemisphere, higher the
altitude of mountainous regions, …the climate will be more
colder. farther the regions of northern hemisphere , southern hemisphere ,
lesser and lesser the sun shine to no sun shine at all
in northern most polar regions, southern most polar regions in winter
season. lesser the sun shine colder the climate. in the same
way higher the
altitude of mountainous regions, colder the climate . because higher the
altitude of mountainous regions lesser and lesser heat on
sun shine [ sun light ]. so that colder the climate
more foods we need, because to live in more colder regions, to live in
colder winter season, we need some fat under our skin. because thicker the
fatty layer
under our skin ,warmer we will be.
because fatty tissues help us to keep warm as wearing warm jacket keep us
warm in colder climate.
loose your fat as much as you can.
Sweat doing physical labor, as much as you can, as much as
possible,……………………..
Drink plenty of food drinks, water, according to your physical works, hotness, dryness, etc…. be happy with what you are, what you did and what
you are doing.
always share happiness, not your sorrows with all.
feel that life is beautiful, life is precious gift provided by god, happiness is abundance around
you. Feel god is present near to you, around you.
Feel happy, and feel strong, satisfied, having plenty, healthy,
beautiful, worthy, even if you are, weak, not good looking , sick , bed
reddened due to chronic illness, diseased, poor, neglected, in scarcities,
failure,………..
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To
the
people of whole world, particularly, to those people who were and are
living in the hot, dry ,dusty, semi-barren, semi deserted lands of
India, which are: Bihar, Utter Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Orisa, Andhra
Pradesh, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, and other remaining states of India,
and southern plain land of Nepal ,which is called Madesh or Terai ,
which boarders with the northern states of India , which are Uttar
Pradesh, Bihar, and Bengal, who were and are facing scarcity of water,
all the time for drinking, cleanings, washings, agriculture
,irrigation, farming, cultivation, plantation, forestry and other
essential use. please do not be always too lazy, careless, damp caring
,arrogant ,stubborn ,passive, narrow minded, not curious for good
things, jealous, crooked, hazardous, too much selfish, never having
civic sense ,never trying for excellent, Nobel and wise, best ideas,
thinking, works, societies, things, insensitive, un productive,
irresponsible, always producing too many children in the lap of the
already sick mother earth and becoming ever increasing burdens to her,
do not be cheaters, cunning ,unfaithful, spoilers, over suspicious,
unfruitful, dirty and filthy, and pound foolish penny wise, always
remaining illiterate about ecology, environment, nature, about the
cleanliness and beautifications of your owns homes, schools, colleges,
universities ,dormitories, hostels, neighborhoods, villages, towns,
cities, surroundings, factories, residential areas, temples, older
people living shelters , kinder gardens, office complexes, public
places, foot paths, roads,…….Dirty Indians, nepali, bangladeshi, srilakans,…. you are always doing very harmful deeds to
the own towns, villages, communities, surroundings, ecology,
environment and nature, doing nothing creative and innovative works,
dependent to others all the time, do not drown, submerge into the
flood water, and fall the victims of floods in each and every year,
caused by the rain water during each and every year’s rainy season
{monsoon period} particularly in India , Bangladesh , Nepal ,south
China and other south east Asian countries, rather start to try your
best to use, utilize, |the rain water of monsoon and bother for very
useful things, which can be utilized in huge manner with very minimum
efforts and works, etc……, rather start storing, conserving,
utilizing, using the rain water in maximum way, ,whenever, wherever
and however possible in your homes, surroundings: towns and villages,
public lands, private lands, by making rain water catchments
facilities e.g. water storing tanks ,water containers, pits, small
ponds, reservoirs, man made lakes, etc, as soon as possible. because
rain water was coming and is coming in your homes, your gardens, your
farm lands, your plantation areas, your private forests, your private
lands, in public forests, communities forests , national parks,
government’s lands, public places, without any efforts, without paying
single rupee, single cent, because, rain water was and is being
provided freely by God for all the living beings, including human
being, whether rich or poor ,living in cities or villages, of the
developed countries or not developed countries of the whole world.
mental hospital, Katmandu
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Europe and European people are beautiful. beauty is precious gift provided
by god.
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majorities of Nepalese are chronic alcohol abusers, Ganja [ cannabis ] smokers [ majorities of Latta dhari BABAs { JOGIs } who leave home, left family responsibilities, surviving on begging, live on temples, Hindu pilgrimage places, Hindu religious places, in Nepal and India, do not work, are cannabis smoking addicts, they pass rest of their life, smoking cannabis all the time, begging,.. in the villages, towns. All the drug addicts are multi substances abusers, so they go to nearby temples to smoke GAJA with these JOGIs= BABAs, who always posses GANJA with them. In Nepal and India ganja smoking were not and is not illegal. those teenager who learn ganja smoking who later become cannabis smoking addicts, most of them are learning ganja smoking from these baba=jogis. Ganja were and is easily available in Nepal and India, because ganja plants easily grow up in the most of the lands of Nepal and India, from the low , plain land to higher hilly and mountainous regions, from tropical climate to cooler mountainous regions of Nepal India. some farmer in Nepal and India are doing ganja farming because ganja farming is easy and well paid crops ]. …drug addicts [ illicit drug users : - phensidyl, fortwin, pethedine, codein , proxyvon,…….], smugglers
not having civic senses, acting vandalisms, destructives, not peace loving
rowdy, chronic mass gamblers, rough, indecent, criminals, unruly
always proud to break the social orders, social norms and laws, ……
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Date , Feb. 6, 008
over crowded, bogus, south Asians
do not waist time for cheap politics , fishing in troubled water,
fraud , absurd thinking and behaviors, cheating, cunning thinking and
behaviors, proud, discouraging, dominating and humiliating others,
arrogance, practicing dirty tricks, hunger for cheap popularities,
extremely un- cooperative, crooked thinking and deeds, not helping
other but hurting and harming others, jealous, over talking, leg
pulling, deceiving others, extreme selfishness, back biting, narrow
minded thinking, out looks, visions, never respecting but always
insulting others, feeling inferior and unhappy in other’s excellence,
achievement and successes . All these human beings : all journalists,
all
chief editors, all assistant editors,
news reporters, proof readers, news
providers, news suppliers , all managers, directors, publishers, financial supporters, investors of Mass communication services in south Asia, particularly in Nepal, are misusing, exploiting , high jacking the freedom of democracy for self interests, personal benefits, petty interests,
propagating and disseminating the misinformation, advertising and promoting, for : fashions shows ,fashion business, nudity, half naked photos of heroes and heroines of indecent, corrupt cinemas, continental, regional , countries wise beauty contests for miss
universe, miss world, miss country etc, sex industries, porn movies
porn films ], extremely cheap entertainments, crimes, unethical ,
uncivilized , violent ,rough, rowdy, intolerant, vandalisms, gangsters cultures, and always extremely highlighting, popularizing, praising the so called political leaders,
their parties all the time , in south Asia, which are not at all noble, ideal, praise worthy,, for the civilized, well to do , prosperous, happy , beautiful, peaceful societies . above mentioned journalists and mass media of south Asia , particularly the journalists
and mass medias of Nepal , are destroying communal harmony by means of all radio stations, all news papers, all information systems, all television stations, all FM stations, all news magazines. above mentioned journalists and mass media of south Asia, particularly the
journalists and mass medias of Nepal , are black mailers, extremely
corrupt, nuisance, mean minded, defaming and demonizing others, self
centered, extremely proud, always self boasting, thinking and behaving
always superior to others, extreme confidant, extreme smart, criminal
minded and idiots journalisms,….. All the time, day and night,
journalists and mass medias of Nepal are giving importance,
priorities, values ,etc only to the self proclaimed political
leaders, their puppets and their all time nuisance, uncivilized ,un
fruitful, anarchists, so called political activities. These people
are all the time are refusing, neglecting the information about
natural sciences, pure science , applied sciences :- agriculture science and scientific farming, irrigations, veterinary sciences, forestry , wiser utilization of natural resources,
popularizing the educations and literacy, health education, health in
formations, nutrition, harmfulness and health hazards of alcohol, alcohol
containing drinks and food materials intake, smoking, chewing, and taking of tobacco and tobacco containing preparations, abuse of Ganja, bhang [cannabis ], marizona, etc in the
population..
Nepali mass medias are always neglecting and refusing the
information about importance of sanitation, environmental sciences,
importance of alternative energies, conservation of nature, available fuels,
available energies resources , Harmful effects of ever increasing pollutions
of water, breathing air, rivers, ponds, lakes, foods, farming lands,
communities, villages, towns and surroundings etc. Nepali mass medias are
always neglecting and refusing the information about prevention of infectious diseases,
prevention of obesities, diabetes, heart diseases, renal failures,
eye diseases, blindness, cancers etc. Nepali mass medias are always
neglecting and refusing the information about technologies,
information systems, entrepreneurships, healthy and honest
competitions in businesses. . These people are all the time refusing,
neglecting importance of friendships with neighboring countries, and it’s people and countries of the whole world and people of the whole world, which is so essential and so important for the betterment of a
most backward, most isolated, poorest , impoverished , least developed,
very small, land locked, mountainous country like Nepal. People of
south Asia, and particularly Nepali politicians, their puppet |followers, Nepali businessmen, Nepali construction works contractors, Nepali intellectuals, Nepali bureaucrats, Nepali journalists,
Nepali mass communication medias: all radios stations, fm stations,
all televisions stations , all news papers , news magazines etc, all
journalists, all chief editors, all assistant editors, news reporters,
proof readers, news providers, news suppliers , all managers,
directors, publishers, financial supporters, investors of Mass
communication services in Nepal and in south Asia, rather utilize your
time in wise manner. So called Nepali politicians, Nepali journalists,
and, Nepali smugglers ,Nepali underworld mafia, underworld
businessmen, Nepali luxurious families, middle men in business in
Nepal , anarchists, law breaking criminals, etc are axis of evils in Nepal .
All the teachers of all schools in Nepal, lecturers and readers
of all colleges , all vocational school and vocational colleges,
technical and vocational colleges in Nepal and lecturers, readers ,
assistant professors, associate professors, professors of all
colleges, all vocational school and all vocational collages in Nepal ,
all universities in Nepal, and students of all high schools in Nepal,
students of all colleges in Nepal, students of all technical colleges
in Nepal , students of all vocational school and colleges in Nepal ,
students of all universities in Nepal rather utilize your time in wise
manner.
at the same time, news reporters, news providers, news
collectors, for bbc { British broad casting corporation } news
service, in Nepal language, in Katmandu
Nepal, and all the Nepali, who were and are working for bbc Nepali
programme, in London, uk, who were and are always from Brahmin caste in
Katmandu, who were and are always extremely
rumors mongering, extremely impolite, extremely selfish, talking too
much but doing nothing good, thinking and
behaving always most superior than non Brahmin caste and other people, having
extremely communal felling about Brahmin caste, extremely self
boasting, extremely fraud ,extremely dominating to others, so the news
broadcaster who were and are working for bbc Nepali service, in bush
house ,London and Nepali reporter, news provider for bbc in Katmandu ,Nepal, were and are always thinking and behaving as extremely impolite, extremely selfish
,extremely self boasting, ,extremely dominating to others, because they were and are
always using extremely impolite, slang , insulting language to all the honorable personalities of the whole world :- his majesty’s the king of Nepal, her majesty’s the queen of uk, all the royal families of world, all the honorable presidents and prime ministers, ministers ,government secretaries, chiefs of the, army, police, home guards, all the qualified responsible officers of the all governments, of the whole world, whether
they belongs to first world, second world or remaining third world
countries, weather developed or not developed countries of the whole
world, all the prestigious personalities of the whole world :- universities professors, senior
scientists, social scientists, respected senior citizens ,respected
personalities of any country of the whole world, because these Nepali
gentle men , who were and are working for bbc Nepali service in
London, who were and are from Brahmin caste from Nepal, and had got
and are getting great opportunities to live and working for bbc Nepali
service in London, uk, which was and is one of the great and most
civilized nation in the world, which was and is British nation in the
world, where the societies was and is most civilized, most polite,
most descent. so the news broadcaster for bbc Nepali service, in
London and all those Nepali or British citizen, who were and are
working for bbc Nepali service, in bush house ,London and Nepali
reporter, news provider for bbc in Katmandu ,Nepal, were and are from
Brahmin caste, who were extremely self
boasting, extremely fraud ,extremely dominating to others, extremely
luxurious, so these people are also criminals,
and all the Nepali politicians, their puppet followers, Nepali
businessmen, Nepali construction works contractors, Nepali
communication medias: all radios stations, fm stations, all
intellectuals, Nepali bureaucrats, Nepali journalists, Nepali mass
televisions stations , all news papers , news magazines etc, all
journalists, all chief editors, all assistant editors, news reporters,
proof readers, news providers, news suppliers , all managers,
directors, publishers, financial supporters, investors of Mass
communication services in Nepal, all lawyers, most of
the judge of courts, luxurious families, all are criminals, sooner or
latter these criminals will be punished by almighty god .
…………………………………………………………………..
ndians-2
You lazy and dirty, filthy more than one billions human souls, living
in your, over crowded, hot, dry, dusty and dirty, filthy land ,which you Indians
falsely believe that ” Bharat Desh sone ki chidia hai ” means India is a land of golden bird. Do not throw black plastic bags every where, do not spit every where, do not pass urine and stool by the sides of streams, rivers, foot paths, roads, ponds , lakes, near to hospitals,
temples, on the public places, any open places. Otherwise you will be
killed by most poisonous creatures : cobras and other poisonous snakes, scorpions, mosquitoes, sand flies, flies, polio viruses [more than 90 % of the world's polio viruses are rampant in India], millions of rats, open raw sewerage every where, where there are Indian people
living, in the all India villages, all India bazaars, all India towns, all
India cities ,throwing , piling up of the garbage, old, used plastics
bags, plastic’s ,rubber’s wastages materials, e.g.: – old tires, old
thrown away, plastic’s, rubber’s, tin’s, aluminum’s ,copper’s, iron’s,
steel’s, and any other synthetic and non synthetic, material’s,
containers, thrown way, old, any machinery products :- old motor vehicles,
old bicycles, old machineries, all other old materials, substances, used
by house hold purposes, thrown away, by factories, plants, etc,………..
synthetic shoes, synthetic bags, etc thrown away, every where, which can
give shelters, favorable environments, opportunities for survival,
multiplication, transmissions, of many harmful, disease causing, life
threatening, deadly, micro organisms: – harmful bacteria , harmful
viruses, inter mediate hosts for disease causing parasites, which can
spread the many dangerous, life threatening, even fatal infectious
diseases in the communities, which are:- dengue fever , epidemics
meningitis, encephalitis, rat bite fever, infective hepatitis, and
endemics of tuberculoses, lesmeniasis [ kala-ajar ], typhoid fiver,
malarias, etc………… due to dirty, filthy, un sanitary, un hygienic,
health hazardous habits, way of livings of Indians, there are so many
harmful bacteria, viruses, disease causing parasites, which are easily
surviving, flourishing, multiplying, in human lives, insect’s lives,
animal’s lives, in the Indian’s communities, Indian’s surroundings. due to these reasons vibrio cholera are causing life threatening, cholera epidemic in monsoon
rain affected, tropical and sub tropical region’s poor countries of south
Asia and south east Asia, particularly, in India, Bangladesh, Nepal,
Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines , Srilanka, etc…, in
|hese poor and illiterate countries, shigellosis species, causing bacillary
dysenteries, salmonella typhii causing typhoid fever , enta amoebas
histolytic causing amoebic dysenteries, giardia lamblias causing acute
,sub acute, and chronic
giardiasis, in these communities. many types of parasites e.g. round
worms, thread worms ,
whip worms, pin worms, hook worms, tape worms, micro filarial, etc.. which|
are roaming every where in your Bharat Desh and causing so many endemic
bacterial, viral , parasitic diseases, in your India ..
Obediently.
……………………….. ………………………… …….
date 27 sep, 007
to those bloody scientists
who were and are still working for petro dollor, car companies,
corporate interests, big business, etc…, do not become too much
sophisticated, arrogant, astronomical and do no blame heaven for the
heinous crimes, which you were and are committing on earth, and do not
primarily look and gaze at sky and jump to the space to find out the causes, waist any m
Shreyas Sinha said
Have you been to Nepal and seen how Indians behave? I once rudely pushed aside by a bunch of aggresive tourist women from Delhi, from a queue. They thought I was Nepalese. Though Nepal needs the Indian tourists, the way they behave there is shamefull. Anyway, lets close this topic.
In fact these days, I feel sorry for all immigrants nowadays, legal or illegal, Nepali or Bangaldeshi. Noone leaves his or her home just like that. there is a need. Everyone is unhappy. All terrorists, extremists, insurgents are unhappy people. And the more we rebuke them the more fanatical they become.
After all this is mother earth. Every human being has a right to live anywhere. But it is always a conflict of the powerfull and the weak, the fortunate and the unfortunate, the selfish and the humble, the dominating and the dominated. And EGO! Pride of the powerfull and pride of the powerless. All eating into each other.
That is why I did a review of the book of Ram. A man born king but lived in the jungles. A life filled with duties…… as a son, as a brother, as a husband, as a king when he had to sacrifice his wife and children, as a destroyer of evil… his life was never his own but one of constant sacrifice for others. Finally when he felt his duties was over, he walked into the River sarayu and ended his life.
layman said
But it is always a conflict of the powerfull and the weak, the fortunate and the unfortunate, the selfish and the humble, the dominating and the dominated
………………………………………………….
True words.
Rajneesh said
What on earth is post #447 about ???????
gorkhay chora said
Atrocities being meted to our people so frequently now that we have actually lost the count. The state govt. and the anti gorkhaland elements are hell bent on making the gorkhas suffer. The elderly army personnels,who have given their whole lives in the service of the country and contributed so much in the nation building process, and of whom we are so proud of were mercilessly beaten up in the streets of Siliguri by the state force,and their crime was that, they held a peaceful rally. The sisters and mothers of Darjeeling district who had staged a DHARNA was chased away by the CPI(M) hooligans and other anti socials. The futures of tomorrows Gorkhaland were barred from appearing in the university exam by the SFI nad DYFI hooligans. Yet it seems that all this incidents have made an impact only on the people who continue to reside and study in the Darjeeling dist. and the Gorkhas who have moved down to the bigger cities for their futher studies seems to be unmoved and untouched by this whole incident.
The reason for saying this is that inspite of being aware of the present political scenario of Darjeeling dist. and the attitude of the state govt.(CPI(M)) and its student’s wing(SFI) towards the Gorkhaland Movement, some of the college going Gorkhas are still supporting the CPI(M), directly or indirectly by taking the membership or actively supporting the SFI. It seems that the Gorkha brothers and sisters have lost their self esteem and self dignity and have no loyalty towards their land. They are also betraying the sacrifices made by hundreds of our people up their and are potraying us to be an object of mirth for the anti Gorkhaland elements by giving them the opportunity to raise their fingers on us and sending a wrong signal that we being an educated youth are going against our own movement. And because of the existence of people like these, those with a true sense of loyalty and fervour for the movement have to face an embarassing question like ” when they can support the anti Gorkhaland element i.e. CPI(M),DYFI and SFI, then why can’t you?”
The majority of these people in (Kolkata) belongs to the colleges like Scottish church, Jadavpur University, Presidency, Ashutush college ,South City college, etc., where inspite of having a choice they render their full support to the CPI(M) and its wings because they are lured with ludicrous offers like a trip to Acquatica or Nicco Park or a party in some discotheque. When these people are confronted they show no sign of shame and guilt and come with the answers like “We have a personal motive to take care of.” This answer baffles me and keeps me wandering as to what their so called personal motives could be? Number of questions haunts me and perturbs me and among them few questions are:1) Are their personal motives greater than the sentiments of thousands of Pro Gorkhaland supporters? 2) Are they going to stay back in these big cities all their life and would not go back to their homeland? 3) Are these educated youth so cheap and selfish that they see nothing beyond their selfish motives? 4) Don’t they consider themselves as Gorkhas any more and would they not be proud if we get Gorkhaland? These whole thought hurts me as well as infuriates me.
Giving more weightage to our movement than to this pseudo democratic values, they could have either stayed neutral or rendered passive support to the anti gorkhaland forces. But the open exhibition of such disgusting acts compels us to draw certain undesirable conclusions that they are either against our movement or they are the future agents of the CPI(M) govt.
I am neither trying to create any fictitious story nor sowing any elements of divisions within us but our actual intention is to depict the harsh pictures of realities that may help to break the illusionary sense that our movement has total support of our own people.
GORKHAY CHORO
gorkhay chora said
jai gorkha!!!
gorkhay chora said
plez visit these blog for the story of the betryal:-
The Gorkha Observer Gorkhaland: Identity and Emancipation
Jaigorkha’s Weblog GJM ASKS teachers to come forward .
JTM said
# 448 Copied my comment completely. Never mind thanks for reading it.
DB said
Barun> Can you look into the problem with adding comments to the posts? I have lost three comments that I typed in but did not appear on the site.
virgofren said
Dear Mr. Roy,
Sitting over here thousands of miles away from India it is just the news media which keeps us abreast with the news from within various regions. I have been following the new era of Gorkhaland demand from the time of its inception and many times have also commented or contributed to your blog. However, in the past few weeks I think the least talked about issue suddenly has been Gorkhaland. Someone has tactically raised tensions between Gorkhalis and Advasis and there we go no one bothers to discuss Gorkhaland. I think if we just put our brains to use then you can very easily put the pieces together and come to just one conclusion. All these drama is only to derail you from the demand of Gorkhaland. It is however, a point of contention as to who must have been the mastermind behind this issue. It may be the CPM and its allies, as you know recently it was BJP who gave the inkling that it may support Bimal Gurung during the Lok Sabha elections. This tactical understanding between GJMM and BJP could have provided BJP with an important break in Bengal politics. Combined to that just today it became public that Trinamool and Congress may go for a grand alliance in Bengal. So who stands to lose from all these permutations and combinations- the ruling left front. Therefore, they may try every trick in politics to try and destabilize the region of Darjeeling and Dooars so that they can push in more police and bureaucratic setup into these areas and try to save these Loksabha seats. These kind of tactics in nothing new for left front and they have often times been successful in gaining out of it. We do not have to go long back in history. Just recall all the disturbances in Midnapore eight years ago and it is anyone’s guess that came out gaining from it. Further, not matter what you or us may argue regional politics does pay dividends in India and more so in West Bengal. By painting GJMM as anti Bengal and then trying to put them in the same boat with BJP the left front can very easily play into the sentiments of majority class in rest of the Bengal. Another irony which sometimes makes me sad is all the people who are in the hunger strike none of them are there for Gorkhaland. I do not want to imply or undermine their sacrifices but their demands are nothing close to the goal which GJMM was supposed to have its inception for. If you carefully analyze the demands you can very well find that the major ones are to free GJMM activists who are lodged in jails and to reopen tea gardens which have remained closed for years now. Has GJMM just in last few weeks realized that those tea gardens were closed? We may have to also analyze the current scenario in terms of what have been said and told by GJMM in the past. We will have Gorkhaland by 2010; I will shoot myself if Dooars is not included in Gorkhaland to name a few. Therefore, it is very well understandable that people really have to be careful when they try to fall into the traps laid by the politicians.
My only hope is may be good sense prevails among the citizens of Darjeeling and Dooars and they will not fall into these traps laid by the politicians. It is worth mentioning that it is election time in India and every national party knows they need every extra seat to forge an alliance to form a government so people back home just be careful.
DB said
To add to #456> Mo ta bhanchhu, aru sabai kura gara tara aafno atma ra jaati na becha, tiniharuko sauda nagara!
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barunroy said
Dear Sunny,
I have notified IIIT of your request, please revert back to this forum for information in a few hours.
Regs
Barun
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Angshumala Tamang said
Hello Barun,
First and foremost many congratulations to you and your team for a marvelous job. Second, thank you for the links to “Lahure.”
I was interested to know whether:
a) this movie was produced in India (Sikkim or Darjeeling)and
b) what are some of the movies(if any) that was produced in India by the Gorkhas?
I would like to subscribe to “Darjeeling Times” (the magazine) and wish to know how to render the formalities for the same. Will it be possible to obtain a copy of all of the magazines that was previously published ?
Regards,
Angshumala
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Tamang,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you for your kind words. As far as I know Lahure was produced in India. The film was shot in Darjeeling Hills and edited at Mumbai. I will try to do some research on the movies produced from Darjeeling and publish a story on that. So you can keep an eye out for the same at Beacon Online.
With reference to Darjeeling Times, I am sorry to say that at present I will not be able to help you with the subscription of the same. I am no longer associated with Darjeeling Times. I suggest that you check out their site. http://www.darjeelingtimes.com. You should be able to contact the right person.
With best wishes.
Regs
Barun
Angshumala Tamang said
Thank you Barun. BTW, I belong to the “fairer” sex category and feel assured that there was absolutely no offense taken for the unintended prefix
Thank you once again,
Angshumala
mr.nepali said
Greetings Da,
Is it true that a teacher from NP committed suicide at Siliguri. I couldnt get much info from my friends because they are out of station. He was my computer teacher about 7 – 8 years back.
barunroy said
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I cannot really confirm the news because the School Authorities are keeping mum. I will intimate you as soon as possible.
Regs
Barun
DB said
Barun, there is an informative article on the Gorkhas of North India (Paschimanchal). If you can obtain permission from BGP and post in this blog it would help spread the knowledge of the Gorkhas of that place.
The link is www(dot)gorkhaparisangh(dot)org/pdf/Gorkhas_in_Paschimanchal(dot)pdf
There is also a poem on the Gurkha (Gorkha) by William Ross Steward in one of Gokul Sinha’s article on that website.
—————
TO A GURKHA
When God first chose a Gurkha
As a vessel of His own,
He took a chunk of cheerfulness,
And laid on flesh and bone,
A face, will some deny it
But a soul that one could,
For any one who’s seen it
Wishes he was half as good.
Faith there’s little small about him
Save the question of his size
From the mountains which beget him
To the laughter in his eyes
His sport, his love, his courage
Preserve the sterling ring
Of the simpleminded Hillman
With the manners of a king.
He has given of his thousands
And hasn’t finished yet
There’s never been a murmur
Of what he himself get
That’s not the way he looks at things
But in a simple trend
He heard the Sahiblog call him
So he’s with us to the end.
I have seen him broken mangled
With his life’s tide running low
And the tears welled deep; within me
As I watched the last thing go
But it triumphed ere it left him
And stiffed every mean,
‘Twas the little chunk of cheerfulness
Being gathered to its own.
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DB said
Gokul Sinha’s article gives the info on the Gorkhas from various parts of India.
www(dot)gorkhaparisangh(dot)org/pdf/roleofgorkhas(dot)pdf
JTM said
With due respect to Gokul Sinhaji, there are many mistakes in this book. In fact this book should be corrected and then opened to the public. I drew Joel rai’s attention (the reeditor of the book) to the mistakes, but with typical BGP nonchalance, Joel Rai ignored it. I’d rather we remain unknown than have people like Joel rai who do not have the grace or honesty of purpose to correct mistakes especially in history
Anita said
Thank you Barun for a wonderful chat
.
I will be right back with the mail I promised you.
Keep up with your very important exercises.
Don´t forget that you are one of my heroes together
with H.H. Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela and Mother Teresa
exactly for what you are and what you are doing nowadays.
With best wishes
Anita
Luen said
Hi Barun,
I am back on line again having been away for X number of months – no can say as I guess you can understand!!!
Just to bring the topic back to our elections – I would like to put this question to our Gorkha’s from the Hills – Jaswant Singh ko ho???
Lets see if I can stir up a hornet’s nest!!!
Cheers
Luen Lama
Rajneesh said
Mr Luen, at present the question is not about “J Singh ko ho” it is about – Why J.Singh?
Luen said
Mr. Rajneesh,
Coulden’t agree with you more – my next question is don’t we have anyone who cud have represented us as an Independent MP!!! Wow we must be really illitrate and totally backward not to have any one in our community to represent us from the Darjeeling Hills.
‘Where have all our Intellectuals gone!!! I was always under the impressions that there were many in our community who have held high positions in the Government.
I rest my case
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
Good to have you back! The question as to who ‘Jaswant Singh is a tough one to answer’. I can only offer my personal remarks and of what I have observed Jaswant Singh has been very tense and worried whenever he was left alone. Of course, he reacted as a politician would every time people cheered him, but I think he is worried about something. Sadly there are none in the community who could resonate the Gorkhaland issue as he would. The involvement of non-Gorkhas will ultimately make the rest of India understand that it is not an alien issue but a genuine issue that the nation is facing and that the Gorkhas are part of the national fabric. The involvement of BJP is also welcome. True there are greater politics in play and at the end of the day, both the BJP and the GJM are the winners. The people at large are also winners to some extent in the sense that now Gorkhaland will have greater reach and greater say. The Gorkhas themselves will have the chance to integrate in a greater and a more wider level into the national politics…All is all it is good….
Also now that BJP and Jaswant Singh are promising us some good things about Gorkhaland… lets give them a chance. If they cheat us then certainly we will rally against them and make their life hell.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Your reply very diplomatically written, I guess like you say ‘Lets give them a chance’ maybe you cud be right who knows with the way the winds are blowing these days one never knows how the cookie will crumble!!!
Barun, would like to catch up with you one of these days, I do on occassions take the Alubari walk into town – maybe we could meet up.
Rgds
Luen
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I would also love to catch up with you and exchanges thoughts and ideas. Maybe together we could come up with something creative and constructive!
Regs
Barun
DB said
Mr. Luen,
The news reports from the Bengal-based papers are trying make us believe that we have duped by Jaswant Singh. It is not difficult to guess why – most reporters and papers are pro-Bengali, anti-Gorkha, pro-Left, or pro-Congress. We can’t expect them to say anything good aboout JS coming to Darjeeling, can we? Well, for an exception, below is one report that does the exact opposite. Read on …
———————–
JASWANT PROMISES TO TAKE UP GORKHALAND WITH CENTRE
Marcus Dam (The Hindu)
DARJEELING: Senior Bharatiya Janata Party leader and candidate for the Darjeeling Lok Sabha constituency, Jaswant Singh, on Friday said the BJP would examine the demand for a separate State of Gorkhaland with a sense of urgency if it came to power at the Centre.
“We will judge the merits [of the demand for Gorkhaland] and take necessary steps,” said the former External Affairs Minister, who is being backed by the Gorkha Janamukti Morcha advocating a separate State comprising the Darjeeling district and areas contiguous to it in the Dooars.
Earlier addressing his first rally at Sukhia, 20 km from here, Mr. Singh said he would take the call for a separate state to Delhi and make it successful if elected.
Speaking to journalists here, he said “the demand of the Gorkhas is not in any fashion separative; it is fundamentally integrative, so that an integrated unity can be achieved only through accord, understanding, and listening to the voice of the people of Darjeeling.”
“Smaller States – homogeneous, well-governed, answer the aspirations of the people,” Mr. Singh said.
He blamed the Left Front government for the serious deterioration of the condition in Darjeeling.
“Why has this happened? Also who is responsible? The answer is clear: This is a direct consequence of the policies that the Left Front government of West Bengal has pursued in Darjeeling for over three decades. That has what has so cripplingly undermined the development of Darjeeling. This has also impacted adversely on our national security interest.”
Mr. Singh underlined the “great strategic importance” of the region. “This aspect, its significance and vital import have not been appreciated sufficiently. Bordering Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh, it is just a stone’s throw away from the People’s Republic of China.”
“False claims”
Rubbishing the claims of the CPI(M) that the party was not being able to campaign in the Darjeeling Hills where its workers were being intimidated by opponents, Mr. Singh said,
“This is a source of amusement because it is so blatantly false. Is it any indication of their diminishing hopes in this constituency?”
On the proposed Third Front, he said he found it “coming together and falling apart.”
“It is an affront to Indian politics.”
P Pradhan said
Hi Folks
Does Siliguri have heart specialists? If yes could you kindly post some info… need it urgently.
Thanks
barunroy said
Dear Mr. P. Pradhan,
Greetings from Darjeeling! The following are the list of eminent cardiologists in Siliguri. I hope everything is fine. Please let me know if I can do anything for you. Please choose only MDs and do contact them before hand and tell them about the problem.
Regs
Barun
Arabinda Saha, (MD, DM)
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Kalawati Medical Stores, 222, Hill Cart Road, Siliguri
Timing : 11 a.m – 2.00 p.m & 5 pm to 7 pm
Phone : 2431139, 2431142
Lokenath Medical Centre, Ausotosh Mukherjee Road, Siliguri
Timing : 6.30 p.m – 7.30 p.m (Except Sunday)
Phone : 2523171
Chandan Dutta, (MD)
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Jalan Medico, Siliguri
Timing : 12.00 noon – 3.30 p.m
Phone : 2538096
Siliguri Medical Hall, Hospital More Siliguri
Timing : 1.30 p.m – 3.00 p.m
Phone : 2538844
D.Ghosh, (MRCP(UK), MRCP(IRE), MACP(USA)DIP(CARD))
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Nivedita Pharmacy, Hill Cart Road, Siliguri
Timing : 9.00 a.m – 1.00 p.m (Mon to Sat)
Phone : 2431728
P.K. Ghosh, (DCARD(Austria),MBBS, D.Card(viena))
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Jeevan Deep, Sevoke Road,2nd. Mile, Siliguri
Timing : 8.00 a.m – 9.00 a.m (Except Sun & Sat)
Phone : 2421879
Medi View, Opp. Hospital Gate, Siliguri
Timing : 11.30 a.m – 1.30 p.m
Phone : 529297
The Medical Stores, Subashpally, Siliguri
Timing : 9.00 a.m – 11.00 a.m , 9.00 p.m – 10.00 p.m (Except Sunday)
Phone : 2535984
Jaya Medico, Champasari Road Siliguri
Timing : 5.30 pm to 7.30 pm
Phone :
S. Chatterjee, (M.D., D.M. (Cardio)-ECG)
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Rajasthan Medicals, Hill Cart Road Siliguri
Timing : 4.00 p.m – 5.00 p.m
Phone : 2530813
Care & Cure, 144, Hill Cart Road.Opp. Jadav Samiti Building, Siliguri
Timing : 5.00 p.m – 6.00 p.m
Phone : 2537618, 2431730(S)
Jalan Medico, Kchery Road, Hospital Gate Siliguri
Timing : 6 pm to 8 pm
Phone : 2538096
Mukta Medical Hall, Hill Cart Road Siliguri
Timing : 3 pm to 5 pm
Phone : 2432296
Manash Das, (MD Medicine)
Category Cardiologist
Chambers
Sudip Medical, Nivedita Market, Kachari Road Siliguri
Timing : 3.30 p.m – 5.00 p.m
Phone : 2533224
Modern Drug House, 571 Bidhan Road Siliguri
Timing : 5.30 pm to 6.30 pm
Phone : 2521244,
Paramount Hospital & Nursing Home,
P Pradhan said
Barun,
I cant thank you enough. Its my granny, she is not well and was admitted to some nursing home (I wont name it). I was getting conflicting reports from the doctors.
So before I go home day after tomorrow, I wanted to know if there were any cardiologists.
Thanks for the support.
aardee said
Barun what happened to all the ads you previously had on your blogsite? they seem to have disappeared.
barunroy said
Dear Didi,
I am having a problem with the payment, I did not receive the payment of any of the advertisement. It seems the advertising agency which had given me the ads has cheated me. The agency is based in Noida and keeps on telling me that the ‘Cheque’ has been sent but so far, I have not received any and I am now getting tired of fighting with them. I took off the ads and am going without them as of now.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Sorry to hear abt this. Pl mail me their address in Noida with details. Maybe I should make a visit. I think the ads were carried for almost a year. JT didi
aardee said
Barun send the fraud ad agency a legal notice …that is the only language they understand. There are many legal eagles in our Gorkha community bet they can help.
Write to me and give me details.
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I have sent you a mail on the same issue please check it out.
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I have sent you a mail on the same issue please check it out.
Regs
Barun
Critical! said
I believe a vehicle was provided by GJM for Barun to vote! Isn’t it obvious where his allegiance lies.
Critical! said
I believe a vehicle was provided by GJM for Barun to vote! Isn’t it obvious where his allegiance lies.
Critical! said
I believe a vehicle was provided by GJM for Barun to vote! Isn’t it obvious where his allegiance lies.
I believe a vehicle was provided by GJM for Barun to vote! Isn’t it obvious where his allegiance lies.
prawin chhetri said
Hi barun,
Only one quick question, why?H.D is not opening now a days.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Chettri,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Due to the disruption of broadband connection, I have not been able to post it. I am presently working through dialup and some of the services provided by Beacon Online has been suspended for time being. I know it will cause you inconvenience, but please do bear with me for a few more days until the broadband connection is reinstated.
Regs
Barun
akrai said
Election Commission orders repoll on six booths in West Bengal
May 2nd, 2009 – 10:40 pm ICT by ANI source: Thaindian news
Kolkata, May 2 (ANI): The Election Commission on Saturday ordered repolling on six booths– two each in Jhargram, Bishnupur and Darjeeling Lok Sabha seats on Sunday.
However, the Election Commission did not agreed to the demand by Opposition parties to conduct repoll also in the Keshpur Assembly segment where widespread rigging was alleged.
Debasish Sen, the State Chief Election Officer, said that the repolls were being ordered on different grounds such as failure of polling personnel to reach booths in Maoist-hit Salboni in Jhargram and a technical snag at Siliguri in Darjeeling.
In Bishnupur, repoll would be held at two booths in Tarkona Free Primary School, two in Kuliana Primary School in Jhargram and one booth each in Bharati Hindi High School and Number Two Shishu Bidyapith in Darjeeling.
Sen said that arrangements were being made to ensure foolproof security for the next two phases on May 7 and 13 when elections to 28 seats of the 42 in the state would be held.
Replying to a question about the demand by Trinamool Congress and Congress for holding repoll in Keshpur in West Midnapore district, Debasish Sen said: “There is nothing more.” (ANI)
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/election-commission-orders-repoll-on-six-booths-in-west-bengal_100187538.html
akrai said
May 2nd, 2009 – 9:25 pm ICT by IANS
Kolkata, May 2 (IANS) Repolling would be held in six booths in three Lok Sabha constituencies in West Bengal Sunday, a poll official said Saturday.
“Two booths each from Darjeeling, Jhargram and Bishnupur Lok Sabha constituency will go for re-polling tomorrow (Sunday),” joint chief electoral officer (CEO) N.K. Sahana told IANS.
Repolling will be held in two booths in the Siliguri assembly segment of Darjeeling parliamentary constituency as the voter numbers in the electronic voting machine (EVM) did not match with those in the voters list.
In Jhargram, the Nayagram booth will see repolling following an adverse report from the micro observer. Voting at the other booth at Salboni could not take place following the boycott call by a tribal organization.
In Bishnupur constituency in Burdwan district, the repolling will take place as some voters cast their ballots in the wrong booths.
The repolling would be conducted from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m., Sahana said.
Meanwhile, Trinamool Congress candidate from Sreerampore Kalyan Bandopadhyay filed his reply Saturday to the show cause notice issued by the poll panel for his alleged hate remarks against state Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee.
“The reply has been put in a sealed envelope and sent to the Election Commission of India. We have no idea about its content,” chief electoral officer (CEO) Debashis Sen told reporters.
PJ said
Hi Barun,
The other day, i was was browsing thru’ various ancient weapons of different civilisations, and i found a weapon which has a striking similarity with our ‘Khukuri’. Check out this site http://www.coldweapon.org/2007_04_01_archive.html if you alredy haven’t
barunroy said
Hi PJ,
Thanks for sharing the link, it certainly seems very interesting.
Regs
Barun
arijit kushari said
barun now i am resciding at calcutta…………hope u remember me………..i was your classmate in vva…remember???? very very glad to see how u r exposing the problems of our hills in the net……………..keep it up ………….we r with u
barunroy said
Hi Arijit,
Great to hear from you. Of course I remember you… who can forget a childhood friend. Thanks for the kind words. Do contact me through my email and lets catch up!
Regs
Barun
Arun said
Dear Barun,
i am persuing my masters in business administration from bhubaneswar and i belong to the hills,even after living there since my birthhood i never knew what “darjeeling tea” means to the world;
i came across ur blog n read articles about the world famous darjeeling tea and its depleting scenerioof operations
i am keenly intersted in conducting operations management projects in feild of quality system of the world famous darjeeling tea in DUncans tea factories at Marybong or Rungli tea estates.
i seek ur guideness on this issue as to whom to contact regarding this…
i will be in darjeeling from mid june to mid august.
Ur guideness will be a great help to me.
i have mailed u 2…pls check
Luen Lama said
Hi Barun,
Mate our prayers are with you and we hope that your mother is back on her feet again, I know what you must be going through and our thoughts are with you at this time.
Hope to see you back in Darjeeling.
Regs
Luen Lama
aman said
thanx everbody the voice of the people will reach delhi soon…i am working regards…n keep writting….god bless u
bradlinho said
Hello Mr Roy,
I visited Darjeeling back in 1999 and still remember my time there fondly. It is a truely beautiful location.
Recently, while looking back on my trip, I wrote a highly romanticised account of a day spent in a computer game parlour near the town centre. The story has proved quite popular and I have been contacted by a reader who wishes to pass on a gift to the proprietor.
However, despite contacting a couple of the hotels in the area, nobody seems to remember a videogame parlour. It was not a parlour in the sense of large arcade cabinets, but instead was just a collection of playstations wired up to televisions. It has been 10 years since I visited, so it is perhaps unlikely that the place still exists, but I live in hope.
My Roy. As a resident of Darjeeling and expert on the area, do you remember the place I am talking about? Is it still there, and if not, do you know what became of the owner?
I would be incredibly grateful of your help, Sir. I think I am right in saying that if you click on my name you will be able to find a copy of the story to which I refer, and a follow-up post.
Many, many thanks,
Lee Bradley
mr.nepali said
1999, a decade ago…
Game parlous back then were quite few – 2000-2004 – a great era for games…
According to my personal knowledge and experience, there was a game parlour in “ORIENT KO UKALLO” …. that shop had couple of play stations and also a pool/snooker board.
If thats not the one then, there was one more at – FANCY MARKET … again THATS “orient ko ukallo”.
If the above two are not the ones then, definitely it has to be my – FAV HAUNT … the game parlour in j.p sharma road (Faspan Hatta).
The main town – CHOWK BAZAR AND ALL DID NOT HAVE ANY GAME PARLOURS.
After 2004, a number of game parlour opened.
But back in 1999- only 3 were there.
bradlinho said
Thank you so much for your help, sir. I didn’t realise that shortly after my visit the videogame parlour business became so popular in Darjeeling.
The place to which I refer was (according to memory) small, with just original playstations, some televisions and a large cabinet filled with games against the back wall. I do not think there was a pool table. Unfortunately, my memory has faded, and any details beyond that are lost.
I shall consult my friend and see if his memory is any better. Perhaps he can narrow the selection down from the remaining two.
Again, thank you so much for your assistance, it is very considerate of you to help. I am determined to find the owner of the parlour so I can arrange the delivery of a Sega Dreamcast and a box of games… if the owner would like this gift, of course.
Lee Bradley
mr.nepali said
Try remembering landmarks or hotels near by it…
bradlinho said
mr nepali,
is it ok if you give me your direct email so we can discuss this further?
thanks,
lee
kumardhan said
dear barun, i don’t know what went wrong. i was earlier submitting comments in the name of kahcha but since last two-three days it is shown as “logged in as kumardhan. Logout” . Actually i had my friend kumardhan to browse your site. now i want to continue submit sending comments in the name of kancha. pl guide me, if u can do anything. pl send me guidelines in following mail : kalimnews@gmail.com
mr.nepali said
no worries bradlinho….. -> lee.marg@yahoo.com … We’l take it from there.
mr.nepali said
or you can email me sword_fish4u(at)…yahoo,com
Bijay said
Hi Barun,
I got to see this site few weeks ago and would like to thank you so much for exploring our Darjeeling. Its nice to see that you update the site frequently or rather say everyday.
I live in Hermantage, Homden and currently I am working in Delhi. Came to know the bad news about Darjeeling. Dukha Lagya!!
Even my house is under the curse of landslide but not much loss.
Haridashatta ma ta pura nuksan bhayecha hai..
I wonder if you can post some more photos/videos of landslide (esp. my village). I know you are finding difficulties due to the internet disruptions, hope it get resolves soon.
Thanks and regards,
Bijay Tamang
Luen Lama said
Hi Barun,
The picture of the mini-landslide between the two multi-storied buildings that you have printed surely speaks a million words about the state of affairs as far as massive multi-storied buildings are concerned in the town and its surrounding areas, every bit of area has been dug or scraped to put in another ugly multi-storied structure.
Darjeeling was once even in the seventies a beautiful town with lovely quaint cottages/houses and the even odd big structure were built with a purpose in mind, which the authorities of the time who took into consideration the amount of load that the hill & surrounding areas could take. Looking at the town now which is nothing but a concrete jungle and would make a good movie set for something like a Mad Max movie!!!
I for one if given the opportunity to live or buy a flat in one of those concrete buildings will never ever make the fatal mistake to ever do so!!! I feel it is too late to now rectify the situation but let us hope and pray – more the pray that there will not be an earthquake even of a 5 magnitude in the rector scale – GOD FORBID – The monsoons are yet to come and a shiver goes through my spine thinking of the people living in Darjeeling, I must say they are Brave Hearts!!!
DARJEELING THE QUEEN OF THE HILLS WAS SOMETHING OF AN ICON OF THE PAST BUT NOW THE ONCE GLORIOUS TOWN IS MORE LIKE SLUMJEELING.
Cheers and Prayers for Darjeeling
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Hi Bijay,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Yes, I update the site more than thrice a day. However, due to the frequent internet interruptions this has become very hard. I will try my best to post photos of the landslides from Hermitage tomorrow.
Regs
Barun
Bijay said
Thanks Barun.
Appreciate your hard work.
Keep up the good work.
Bijay
bradlinho said
To the Himalayan Beacon Community..
Hi. I have a MASSIVE favour to ask of you.
As mentioned above, I recently wrote a romanticised story about the time I visited one of the game parlours in Darjeeling from England. The story was a minor hit and as a result I was contacted by somebody touched by the story who hoped to send a gift to the parlour.
The only trouble is I do not know which one it was.
I realise this is a large favour for a stranger to ask of you, but would any Darjeeling residents be able to take some pictures of the game parlours in Fancy Market and J.P Sharma road? Just a few of the inside and outside and of the owner/person that attends? Would that be possible? That way I can identify the arcade I visited and arrange for the person to send the Dreamcast.
I realise this is an imposition, but if a darjeeling resident lives near to these places and could just take a couple of snaps I would be so incredibly grateful.
Thank you, I hope you can help. And Mr Roy, thank you for allowing me to use your ‘contact me’ section for this purpose.
Lee
P.S
Here is the story if anybody cares to read it. It is worth bearing in mind that this story is based off memory and is highly romanticised.
http://lbcollect.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/the-highest-arcade-in-the-world/
JTM said
I think Mr Lee will have to do it himself. Owners of gaming parlours are not going to be happily posing for pics. I think Mr BradlinhoLee is trying to use Barun.
bradlinho said
I am sorry you feel that way JTM. It is true I am using Barun’s site to reach out to Darjeeling residents, but I have no ulterior motives.
My only intention was to get the gift delivered to the correct parlour, indulge in a little sentimentality for my trip there and perhaps write a follow-up story if I thought it warrented it.
I wish I could come and take the pictures myself, but I am so far away.
I apologise if I offended anyone.
Luen Lama said
Guys, Guys what is the problem?? all Lee wants to do is to have a gift delivered to the right person/game parlour, I do not see any ulterior motive behind his request!!!
Game Parlours are legal in Darjeeling and I do not see why owners will not be happy to pose in front of their business ventures (Gaming parlours)it will be a good form of advertisment for them.
Unfortunately I am not in Darjeeling at the moment but guaranteed the next time I am in town I will do the needful for someone whose request warrants our local help.
Lee I am sure Barun does not mind you asking him for his help.
Cheers mate
Luen lama
subha said
SAY NO TO GORKHALAND!YES TO NATIONAL INTEGRATION AND PEACE OF HILLS AND PLAINS.JAI HIND
Lalit Dewan said
Hi Barun,
I honestly appreciate your tremendous work. I am not a journalist nor politically interested ibut keen to know about the nepali people around those areas. It keeps me up to date of the events. Origanlly I am from Pedong, Kalimpong and fancy gundruk/sikuti/Darj tea etc. Pse advise me how I can order these? Currently in UK.
With kind regards,
Lalit
Rajneesh said
Lalit bhai,
I think all these items are for India only. I wonder if gundruk and sinki can pass through customs in UK.
aardee said
Arun said
May 15, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Dear Barun,
i am persuing my masters in business administration from bhubaneswar and i belong to the hills,even after living there since my birthhood i never knew what “darjeeling tea” means to the world;
i came across ur blog n read articles about the world famous darjeeling tea and its depleting scenerioof operations
i am keenly intersted in conducting operations management projects in feild of quality system of the world famous darjeeling tea in DUncans tea factories at Marybong or Rungli tea estates.
i seek ur guideness on this issue as to whom to contact regarding this…
i will be in darjeeling from mid june to mid august.
Ur guideness will be a great help to
====
Arun in the latest Tehelka magazine dt 13JUNE09 there is a full page ad:
MAKAIBARI TEA ESTATE DARJ is looking for a publicity manager:
Required to look at the promotinal material & pkging for Makaibari/ Web Administrator / Pricing & costing factors for MB Tea archiving all pics & videos for reference and upload on You TUBE…contact: Director Makaibari Te Estate, Darjeeling, West Bengal
patleybaskounpad said
hi barun
if i remember correctly there was a request from someone who had done a story on some gaming arcades, about photos of that same from darj. …since no one was forthcoming i had suggested that he post a similar message at a site frequented by people from darjeeling…for some inexplicable reason (i hope the reason is inexplicable and not any sinister than that) that message along with the ad of that site is gone…was wondering what the reason was for pulling of that suggestion…
barunroy said
Dear PBKU,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I cannot say how the comment has seemingly disappeared. Since you must have put in a hyperlink, it must have been put into the spam folder and since, it really gets impossible to manually check all the spam, I delete all the spams in one go and hence your comment might also have been deleted in the same lot. Please do put in the same again and this time I will see to it that it is not mistakenly deleted.
Regs
Barun
aardee said
Barun please check comment 447.
My msg on 521 is for Arun comment # 499
PJ said
realy Aardee di? do you have any links to the same?
JTM said
Today’s papers have reported an incident in Australia where Indians stabbed an Ozzie racial abuser in retaliation. The victim apparently told the Indians “You are black. You dont belong here. Go away from our country”.
Besides being attacked by Ozzies, Indian youth have also been beaten up by Lebanese youth in Australia
That reminds me of the unnumerable time bonafide Indian Gorkhas and Nepalese people are facing racism across the country.
In TOI. Jug Suraiya has started a blog ‘We’re more racist”.
One of the commentators has written that ‘we are more racist….. I have seen in India is hundred times of racism I ahve sen abroad”
We should participate and highlight the racism that Gorkhalis are facing in India today.
The blog address is blogs.timesofindia.com
The topic WE’RE MORE RACIST
Sanity said
Can someone let us know where can we find this report of the study by Dr. Renu Naidu?
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Racism in North India
As an undergraduate student at Delhi University in the early 1990s, Dr Renu (Gupta) Naidu took little notice when her friends routinely referred to students from the Northeast as ‘Chinkies’ or hurled obscenities or racial insults at them. “Any Northeastern student entering a college campus earns the epithet ‘Chinky’ on day one, and has to live with being looked at as, at the very least, an oddity, for the rest of her or his stay,” says Naidu. “Students told me about being asked questions like whether they eat rats.” This racial hostility comes unbidden from the non-Northeastern student community.
Naidu had herself faced discrimination as a “non-Marathi” student during her post-graduation at Nagpur, and it dawned on her that Northeastern students, with their distinctive ‘non-plainspeople’ epicanthic features, behavior and dress habits, were in all likelihood confronting far more discrimination than she had. In June 2006, Naidu was awarded a PhD for her work on the lives of Northeastern tribal girl students in Delhi, with her research based on interviews with 200 students from 10 colleges in Delhi University’s North Campus.
The first disturbing fact – statistics compiled from official records of various colleges in the city – that Naidu’s study has uncovered is that the dropout rates of Northeastern students touches 50 per cent, with more girls dropping out than boys. The reasons for this trend, according to Naidu, lie in the intense socio-cultural conflict, and the resultant stress, that impact all aspects of the lives of students from the Northeast.
“For a student from the Northeast, irrespective of whether she or he is from an urban or tribal background, Delhi is like an alien land,” says Naidu. “The language is unfamiliar, the cultural and social terrain is unknown. Even getting a letter of introduction to open a bank account is a mammoth task. What is more, their distinctive physical features immediately mark them out as outsiders among the local populace.”
Being cheated as a matter of course is one direct fallout of this situation. Angom*, a Manipuri student at Miranda House told Naidu, “Even rickshaw-pullers, auto-drivers, vegetable vendors and bus conductors cheat us because they know that we are not aware of the price of things here, and are not in a position to drive hard bargains.”
For girl students, the situation is worse still: in the conservative Delhi milieu, their Westernized style of dressing and easy camaraderie with the opposite sex – owing in large part to their liberal tribal culture – they are seen as ‘fast’ or ‘of easy virtue’. This imperception exposes girls from the Northeast to the worst sorts of sexual harassment, both within campuses and without. Diana, a Mizo student at Indraprastha college, said, “Delhi men believe that north-eastern girls are easily available. They look at us with only one thing in mind: sex. If we protest, they warn us to clam up, because we are alone and there is no one we can turn to for protection.”
The attitude of college authorities and the local police to incidences of sexual harassment and teasing is usually nonchalant. “Incidents of this nature are treated as routine, and often the girls are blamed for them.” Furthermore, she says, “Police stations refuse to provide data on the sexual harassment of Northeastern girls.” One police official, in fact, told Naidu: “Yeh to in ladkiyon ka roz ka naatak hai, kahan tak complaint darj karien? Aur waise bhi bina chingari ke aag nahi lagti (This is a daily drama these girls play out; how many complaints do we register? Anyway, there’s no smoke without a fire).”
The vulnerability of the girls is underscored by the fact that most Northeastern girl students live in rented accommodation. Nine colleges of the 13 (three are women’s only colleges) in the North Campus have hostels; only four of these have girls’ hostels.
“Rented accommodation exposes girls to different kinds of harassment,” says Naidu, “They are subjected to sudden and arbitrary hikes in rent, and threatened with immediate eviction if they don’t comply.”
Here, too, sexual harassment is omnipresent. During their conversations with Naidu, many Northeastern girls confided to being harassed for sexual favors by landlords and their families. “The son of one landlord’s family even offered a rent waiver in return for sexual favors!” exclaims Naidu.
Apart from sexual harassment, Northeastern girl students have to face discrimination at other levels too, and this impacts their education adversely “The general impression is that these students are not good at studies and are [here] just for a good time. The stamp of ‘reservation’ sticks to them, and the resentment that comes with it has to be faced,” says Naidu.
According to her data, of the 200 students interviewed, only 10 per cent said that their classroom participation is high, while around three-quarters registered below average classroom participation. A sizeable proportion felt that teachers’ attitude to their classroom participation was either neutral or discouraging. Of the 200 students, 111 said their participation in co-curricular activities was ‘minimal’; 107 felt discrimination during co-curricular activities; 58 felt ‘isolated’; 167 students registered feelings like helplessness, discouragement, irritation and stress in academic activities.
This overall pressure drives many students to drop out, Naidu feels. Those who stay on find it difficult to meet academic goals burdened with so much stress.
Consequently, most Northeastern tribal girl students are not particularly keen on getting jobs in Delhi after completing their education. “Coming to study in Delhi, for most Northeastern students, is a matter of prestige,” says Naidu. “The unstable political situation in the Northeast has caused educational standards to drop, which makes it very easy for Delhi-educated students to get the best jobs once they return. This, coupled with the fact that the atmosphere does not offer much by way of encouragement to reach out and mingle, causes most students to see their student days here as just a stopover.”
Students told Naidu that social work interventions, such as the presence of social workers in colleges in enabling and facilitating roles, and steps to fight discrimination and enhance socio-cultural exchange between communities of students, could help alleviate the problems. But the single-most important step that Naidu feels needs to be taken with a sense of urgency is arranging sufficient hostel facilities for Northeastern girl students. “This one step will go a long way in providing stability and security to their lives and help them concentrate on their academic goals,” she says.
This is why Naidu is currently working on a policy paper to call attention to the issue of this manner of student discrimination, which she wants to send to the ministries of tribal welfare and social justice. “The problem of Northeastern girl students needs recognition in the right places,” she says. “At present, the different kinds of stress that these students have to put up with is impacting their studies seriously, and every effort should be made to ease the situation.”
(* Names of all students changed.)
Luen Lama said
What amazes me is the banning of plastic shopping bags as they are the major cause of landslides in Darjeeling so say the Darjeeling Municipality!!! The UK, Australia and all EU Countries use plastic bags in all their supermarkets and have not banned these plastic bags hence. but the authorities do advice their communities not to throw the same into the rivers and ocean as they pollute the river ways and effect the fish etc., But honestly I don’t see what the problem is especially concerning that the plastic bags are the problem of landslides in the hills!!!
I wish the concerned authorities would wake up to the fact and realize that the main culprit is the illegal building of ugly multi-storied buildings all over the hill sides, woe betide should there be an earthquake then it will be too late for Darjeeling town and its residence.
Luen Lama
JTM said
Plstic bags are not biodegradable and hence choke normal run of streams and water (as people chuck in their watee mostly ino them) and the consequences affect.
Plastics have to be banned from hills. Those who understand. Good. Those who dont. Just do it. Carry a shopping bag when you go shopping. In fact all the munchies and crunchies in plastic bags (Uncle Chips, etc)should also be replaced for sale only in paper bags in the hills.
Sanity said
I agree with Luen here. So, will the authorities stop the sale of branded potato chips that come in plastic bags? Will they stop all goods that comes wrapped in plastic covers (TV, refrigerators, etc)? True, plastics are not biodegradable but it is not the shelf-life that is important here. It is about proper disposal. A jute bag thrown into a public drain (jhora) can do as much damage (sometimes even more as jute bags are more stronger and can hold more debris) as any plastic bag. Damm the authorities! They do only easy things. Let them take more courageous actions like banning all high-rise buildings in Darjeeling hills and demolishing all those that have flouted the rules.
Robbie said
Hi Barun,
have sent u a mail…. plz check!
rim said
@That reminds me of the unnumerable time bonafide Indian Gorkhas and Nepalese people are facing racism across the country.
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True..i had written comments on one such article on ibnlive.con however it was not published
anyways…we should make all efforts to highlight such issues faced by Gorkhas
JTM said
Pl write now to the blog mentioned above in Times as the subject is hot and topical. The topic is WE’re more racist.
aardee said
PJ #525 no links given in the full page ad in Tehelka…so dunno but guess Makaibari T.E should be easy to locate no?
patleybaskounpad said
i agree with much of the observations made in #527…but for a country as large and diverse as India things will never be perfect…NE students in DU do tend to congregate into small ‘ghettos’…never willing to mix around much with others..forget about those of mainstream India, students from a particular state in NE will find it difficult to open up even with folks from other NE states..i have seen how the KUKI students of Manipur kept to themselves not mixing even with the MEITEIS from the same state..ditto with the mizos and the nagas…part of the problem has to do with language..but some of it also has to do with attitudes…i mean if a NE student innocently and without any wrong intentions addresses a Delhite or a Bihari as an ‘indian’ there is bound to be some misunderstandings..
of course none of things that i have said above gives anyone the right to abuse and mistreat NE women…but then sadly rest of India still has a lot to learn from the way folks back in Darjeeling treat their women..it is indeed an irony that one of the most backward(economically and educationally that is) places in India has evolved a rare sensitivity in treating sisters, daughters and wives…now that is something to be proud of…
JTM said
I would like to dwell on this Indian reference. The Gorkhalis are identified by their physical features and language. Whether we are six generations old in India we are still called Nepalis or Gorkhas. When a Nepali has to refer to a non-Nepali, how does one know the person is Gujerati or Marathi or Punjabi, hence the inocent ref: Indian or desi began. We all also know that there stereo-type face of an Indian created. People with Mongolian features are not included in the Indian faces image.
A nepali is called Nepali, a Manipuri is called manipuri, a Naga is called Naga. a Mizo is called Mizo, etc ….I ahve never herad anybody refer to anyone of them as ‘he or she is Indian’. But all others are called Indian. The ref is always on a an etnic note.
The problem is not with Mongolian people calling others Indian.
The problem is of Aryan features NOT calling us Indian but calling us chinkies or whatver.
How would North Indians feel if they are called Pakistanis or Middle eastern cos they look the same?
How would southerners feel if they are called Sri Lankans or Africans cos they look similar?
Hari said
Hi Barun,
Great Job creating this platform for us, to share our views and comments.
I mean the one knot that ties all of us people frequenting this site would definately be the love for the one place we were lucky to be born in or brought up in or just passing through and fell in love; this place called Darjeeling.
However I have just one request, and that is please keep filtering the comments to articles more frequently. Or if not then please discontinue live updating of comments.
The tendency for a good topic going distorted and the danger of ruckus mongers deliberating writing incendiary lines to provoke a particular community, is really dangerous, as espically yor site allows the contributor to give psuedo names.
With the IT amendment act in place, if somebody against whom lines are directed, were to object to it, the court might take cognisance of the fact and it would be a shame to see a great platform as this then suffer, because of someone’s irresponsility.
Writing my concerns so that Himalayan Beacon, continues its growing success.
I will definately be visiting your web site most frequently.
Luen Lama said
I agree with JTM’s comments as far as plastic bags not being biodegradable but what I am emphasizing is that plastic bags are not the reason why Darjeeling town is experiencing landslides.
What Sanity has commented on blog # 530 is definitely on the same wavelenght as I am and what he/she has written is very, very correct. STOP UGLY HIGH RISE BUILDINGS BEING CONSTRUCTED ALL OVER THE TOWN THIS IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF LANDSLIDS.
Construction of these ugly structures is so bad that one is now not even able to see the mighty KANCHENJUNGA where one could see and admire it from most areas of town all one can see are these ugly eyesores, so much for tourists or even locals admiring the mountains.
REMOVAL OF PLASTIC BAGS ARE ONLY AN EYE WASH BY THE AUTHORITIES.
Luen Lama
JTM said
Dear Luen, ban of plastic bags is very important to start with.
A scientist friend of mine in the US has done research on natural starch-produced and processed material which can replace the usage of plastic in daily needs. His name is Dr Mrinal Bhattacharjee.
There are lots of Indian scientists doing fantastic research work in the US which are very relevant to Indian condns but find few takers back home.
Luen Lama said
Dear JTM,
Please understand I agree with you as regards Plastic bags etc,etc and the damage these plastic bags do to the environment I agree with you wholeheartitly but all I am saying is by banning plastic bags in the Darjeeling hills will not in anyway stop the hill where the town is located giving way to landslides and causing major damage and deaths.
Look at the recent landslides that have taken place from the start of Jorebungalow to 3rd mile, these landslides were not the cause of plastic bags but deforestration and it will be the same case as far as the town is concerned – how much load can the hill & ridge take!!!!
The main problem is the irresponsible building of multi-storied ugly structures in every place where these illegal builders are constructing, I have noticed they have begun to construct another structure in front of Pradhan Hotel Gandhi Road and below the BT college please do check it out!!!
PLASTIC BAGS ARE BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT BUT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LANDSLIDES.
Luen Lama
Rajneesh said
Hi Barun,
Has anything been done by the authorities about the cleaning of the graveyards in Darjeeling?
Razesh said
Real life ‘Bunty Aur Babli’ couple held for cheating Archies
21 Jun 2009, 1739 hrs IST, IANS
NEW DELHI: A Darjeeling-based couple did a “Bunty Aur Babli” on two Archies outlets in the capital, conning them in the style of the hit Bollywood
movie. The accused couple has been arrested, police said on Sunday.
Sushant Dhillon, 38, and his wife Kajal, 28, were arrested on Saturday for allegedly cheating Archies galleries in Connaught Place and Jwala Heri markets.
They were arrested after a complaint by Sumit Pal Soni, who runs the Archies Gallery in Connaught Place, in central Delhi.
Police said Sushant last month approached Soni as a manufacturer of plastic photo frames and offered an attractive price of Rs.18 per piece.
“Two days later, Kajal with an intention to cheat Soni went to the shop as a prospective buyer from Darjeeling. She showed interest in photo frames and ordered 2,000 photo frames at the rate of Rs.34 per piece. Kajal paid an advance of Rs.5,000,” said a police officer.
Lured by heavy profit, the shop owner ordered photo frames from Sushant and also paid him Rs.31,000 in advance for the supply.
“On Sushant’s demand, Soni paid him Rs.31,000 for the supply. But Kajal did not turn up to buy the goods ordered,” the officer said.
The accused in their interrogation confessed having used the same modus operandi a few months ago to dupe Manoj Malik, who runs Archies Gallery in Jwala Heri market of west Delhi.
Dear Barun Bhai,
I came across this article in The Times of India website a few minutes back.The police claim the couple belonged from Darjeeling,could you verify if they are really from darjeeling?
Regards.
Raj da.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Bunty-Aur-Babli-held-for-cheating-/articleshow/4684058.cms
Luen Lama said
Bunty Aur Babli from Darjeeling – What a joke Raj and with a sir name like Dhillon who else could they be but Punjabies from Delhi of course!!!
People from Darjeeling would not in a hundred years do anything so stupid as this Punjabi couple has done especially in places like Delhi.
They must have come to Darjeeling on holidays and used Darjeeling as a scapegoat when they went back to Delhi after spending their money here!!
Hang it all we people from Darjeeling have pride and would rather beg than steal from our Northern brothers – The Times of India should have got their facts correct before printing such a stupid article.
Luen Lama
Dorjay Tshering said
GORKHALAND SCORCHING AT THE DOMESTIC AIRPORT : 3rd DEGREE – Dorjay Tshering
Abstract, as it may sound. True as you see Gorkhaland was scorching and sweating at the airport.
On a fateful afternoon of June ’09 I had gone to receive one of my friend at the I.G.I. and what I saw was gruesome Arrived with their baggage’s and the face of excitement came the Pradhan’s,the Giri’s, the Lama’s and the Chettrie’s but to their extreme expectation and vision not a lone Gorkha Soldiers could be seen or even made their presence felt.
I saw Pradeep Pradhan with anxious face and mobile in hand swaying his head which of course –he had a good heck exercise. All with their baggage’s every one of them was engrossed in the frenzy thought for Gorkhaland looking around to see that the D.G.J.M.M. have come to receive them. They delayed by quenching their thirst with water but even when it was almost half an hour no one from Delhi turned up to receive.
Shame on our people, when national Gorkha leadership came to Delhi you people do not even bother. Finally I overheard Pradeep calling in Delhi “khai thimi haru ani katha chai gari” where you are people and where is the cab.
But——–saddened faces the national leadership hired the taxi from the IGI airport and thus ! headed some where else possibility to the HUDCO govt.quaters( next to Ansal Plaza)
This incident is crystal clear and reveals which reveals from readers view and perspective world wide that the Delhi GJM only makes their presence with a small lobby of cluster at the airport only when the national leadership(Bimal Gurung) comes on a visit to Delhi.The remaining secondary leaders are not even attended properly as I have watched this gruesome incident from a close angle.
This theory is not based on the circumstantial evidence this is simply an accident of birth and offering me an opportunity —– a green signal to proceed with the virtual truth.These “BUNCH OF FOOLS” at Delhi did not even to bother to receive the young and the aspiring Gorkha leaders on their arrival.
1st Degree of Suspect—–At the helm of the national politics the Congress has made a White wash .BJP a tie tie fish.
2nd Degree of Speculation——-How cares and why should we go when Bimal Gurung is not around these secondary leaders comes and goes.We are also leading the movement in Delhi so why should we go(considering themselves as the secondary leaders)….
3rd Degree of hypothesis——–10th of March 2010 where the vision the dream and the dead line for Gorkhaland remains..and as these Bunch Of Fools are aware that Congress is back in power and the chances for Gorkhaland is bleak.
#1. These bunch of foolish executive must be fasting and praying for Bimal Gurung’s good health
#2. As reiterated from the speeches delivered from |Bimal Gurung —I will offer to die if Gorkhaland is not created by 2010.
#3. If then Gorkhaland is not delivered on 10th of March 2010 then the movement of |Gorkhaland will ship – wreak in the midst of the storm.
These may be the possibly fear physochis that these Bunch Of Fools in Delhi are driven with.(as a reminder these people are not patriot, these bunch of fools are betrayers of the Gorkhaland movement)
Open Question to the Delhi GJM —-you people should learn politics from others.Your presence at the airport could have bolstered the moral and the inner spirit of these secondary leaders. I felt pity at these leaders especially Pradeep Pradhan and Amar Lama.
Without any fear of contradiction I still you people Bunch Of fools the reason being if and when the BHOJ (as was offered on the 31st of March) at Gorkha Bhawan then you people flocked in large number to masticate you foul smelling teeth to tear apart the mutton and the chicken. Recommendation next time when the secondary leaders come to Delhi they will possibly bring the Sausages the ham the bacons from Kevintors .It will be the right opportunity for you people to gather at the airport.(Food for Reception at the Airport)..
Lastly the disgruntled Delhi Gjm has of late formed the Nepali Young Professional now re- christened as Himalayan young professional at the same place where Gorkha janamukti morcha was formed with the same people. These guys as I over heard from a Bunch of fool at Lado Sarai that these people will celebrate the Bhanu Jayanti at the Gorkha Bhawan or at Humayun pur community Hall. Now who is Bhanu Bhakta?OH! That man WITH A SILLY CAP. Follow Shakesphere, follow Wordsworth, follow Witman.In an age or realization you people still follow Bhanu Bhakta The man with a silly cap. You people must be silly either. to be contd…..
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dr.kalyan basnet said
date : July 4, 009.
Indian
remember the shastra,
brahma [ god ] said that : -
satoguna, rajoguna, tamogun mai hun
nirgun hai mera nam,
satya sanantan nirankar main hun
bhaktai ke hun pran.
……………………………
Janani janma bhumishcha, sorgadapi gariyasi.
…………………………………
Om sarbe bhabanti sukhin
Sarbe shantu niramaya,
Sarbe bhadrani pashenti
Ma kasy dukha bha bhabet.
………………………………………..
Buddir yashya balam tashya
Nirbuddirshya kuto balam.
………………………………………..
Bidhya dhanam sarba dhanam pradhanam.
……………………………………
Santosum parmum sukham.
Satyam badha,
Dharmam char.
Sarbatra, aur sab me bhagban birajman hai.kan kan me hai bhagaban.
Atma kabhe nahi marega.atma ajar, amar hai.
Atma parmatma ke he ansa hai.
Man , bachan, karma se hinsa nahi Karen.
Chandal , kutte,… ki hirdaya me bhi bhagaban birajman hain.
Atma, parmatma ko chino.
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date : June 20, 009.
Subject: dharma
Over populated Indian
According to shastra
Try our best to become bal brahmachari and try our best to continue it for whole lives. so that we can attain moksha [ no need to come to the 84 lakhas yonies for birth and death cycles ] after this lives. If we can not become bal brahmachari or not successful to maintain it for the whole lives, even then we can maintain the bramacharya in our married lives with dharmayukta family lives. With dharmayukta family lives = dharmic jeevan we can earn punya [ dharmic assets earn by good deeds ]. Manusya chola [human lives] is uttam [ best ] chola [ lives ] among the 84 lakhas yonies [all types of living beings in earth ]. Because of manusya chola [ lives ] we can do dharm , earn punya in our lives.. Because manushya lives is chaitany chola [ we do have higher level of thingkings, so that we can differentiate good and bad, pap and punya,……….. ] but remaining other 84 lakhs yonies [ living being ] are not chaitanya chola [ having higher level of thinking ], so that those remaining 84 lakhas yonies can not do dharm and earn puny as we human being can do dharma and earn punya in our lives. As we are having chaitanya chola we can do dharma, earn punya, so that we can go to the heaven and pass happy lives there till our punya remain as assets . even with our dharmic jeevan [ dharmic lives ] if we can not do that much dharma and earn that much punya to become moksha or go to the heaven , at least we will be able to get dharmic parents [ dharmic parents means those parents who are dharmic pitaji[ father ] and patibrata, punyawati, punyashila ,.. mataji [ mother ] to whom we will be able to get in our next lives. If we get dharmic parents [ born by the above mentioned father and mother’s kokha ] our lives will become pure [ dhanya ], so that we will be able continuously do more dharma, earn more punya in each our successive human lives, by getting the above mentioned dharmic parents in our successive human lives. by getting the above mentioned dharmic parents in our successive human lives we will do more and more dharma and earn more and more punya in our successive human lives. When we continuously do more and more dharma, earn more and more punya in our successive human lives, we will be able to attain the moksha or go to the heaven, according to our punnya asset.
Indian
Remember shastra : – let us avoid kama , krodha, lobha, moha in our lives.
Let us earn dharm , artha, kama , moksha.
Let us remember that in the whole world, whole universe, there are three types of
guna [ characters ], which are satto, rajo and tamo , including we human being.
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Date 19 june 009.
cheater Indian,
remember the ved : – asoto ma sat gamay, tamso ma jotir gamaya, mirtur ma amrit gamaya,…………
you
noisy, quarrelsome, violent, dry, dusty, rusty, semi barren,……… hot, desert,………..loving Indian,
remember shastra : – om dev shanti, antariksha shanti, prithibi shanti, rap shanti, ausadhaya shanti, banspataya shanti,….
Always over populated, always over crowded, always congested,…, due to always giving birth to many many children in each generation, when small pox eradicated , cholera, acute gastro enteritis, bacillary dysenteries, malaria, kalazar [ lesmeniasis ],tuberculosis, rabies, severe pneumonia in children, ……., all together which used to kill millions of human population almost every year in India, other south Asian countries, other Asian countries, in all African countries, in all the south American countries [ in all third world countries ]. As the progress of sciences, technologies, in Europe and America, specially since last about 150 years, the good hearted people of Europe and America were and are helping in education, health sciences, skill development, prevention, treatment,. of above mentioned fatal diseases which were causing millions of death of human population almost every year in India, other south Asian countries, other Asian countries, in all African countries, in all the south American countries [ in all third world countries ] were and are gradually under control. as result there was and is continuously, always un manageable, rapidly increasing the human population, who were and are always lazy, always not creative, nice, polite, not trying to be good, disciplined, educated, well mannered, Nobel, excellent, civilized, rather always prone to become criminals, rowdy, destructive, spoiled, cruel, ill mannered, burdened population [ always criminal mind, lazy bone, hungry mouth, giving birth to many children like dogs ]…… in all third world countries of Asia, Africa, south America, Oceania, in all the tropical islands territories, of the whole world.
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…… date : June 18, 009.
Present world ‘s all human being from third world, second world to
first world, from not developed to highly developed countries, from
laborer class to rich people , from residents of remote areas :
forests living tribal communities to mega cities living urban
population, from illiterate population to highly educated population,
from presidents , prime minister to king, queen , from ordinary
families to royal families,., from the population who
are
living in very hot topical climate to very cold tundra regions, higher
altitude mountainous regions,….., from modern population to extremely primitive cave, forests,. …,Living primitive population OF THILD WORLD COUNTRIES,…………,, each and every action of all above mentioned ever increasing more than 7 billions population of earth, are continuously adding the temperature of earth causing continuously raising the temperature of earth. Not a single activity of above mentioned ever increasing, Present world ‘s all human being [ human population ] of earth is cooling the earth.
……………………………………………………
from third world, second world to
first world, from not developed to highly developed countries, from
laborer class to rich people , from residents of remote areas :
forests living tribal communities to mega cities living urban
population, from illiterate population to highly educated population,
from presidents , prime minister to king, queen , from ordinary
families to royal families,., from the population who
are
living in very hot topical climate to very cold tundra regions, higher
altitude mountainous regions, all of them are continuously
addicted to alcohol, luxurious food, lazy lives, luxurious lives,
consumer lives, immoral, corrupted, vulgar, sexy, porn ,lives
.
the trend are ever increasing day by day all over the world, if to
days human being do not try for correction, modification,, for
better, then the human being of whole world will be ruined, destroyed
very soon in future .
JTM said
Dear Dr kalyan basnet, I will be grateful to know what subject have you done yr honoured doctorate on? Thank you very much
S.K.Dixit said
Dear Barun,
Great Job this …much appreciated. Would like to know if you are interested in the reprint of the book “The Story of Darjeeling” by Basant B.Lama, which was released last year and gobbled up fast by all avid readers..all sold out in 3 months.Oxford bookstore in DJ. was the main outlet.
Would like to know if you are interested in its reprint.
Regards,
S.K.Dixit
Rakwesh said
I am a bihari and have been stayijng in darjeeling for a long time now, there are few things i would like to request the NEPALI community in Darjeeling.
1. Please stoip bulling us.
2. PLease stop looting us.
3. Please stop shouting at us just because we come from a different part of India, as you demand according to the constitution of India we demand the same , we come from so far , take up shops sell things, be it anything right from vegetables to bhujias to masalas to pans, to clothes, why dont you understand that we are serving you in all this, we are serving Darjeeling, we are serving the Nepal;i community , and we are serving every one present there. Stop looting us.
4. Stop harrasing and beating any bihari you get on the road.
5. Stop being communal, Do you know what nepalis or any North eastern people are called in places like Delhi or mumbai………….Chinkiz. Hope you dont like that, Int he same manner we do not like being discriminated and ridiculed.
6. Stop saying Bihari this and Bihari that , for every bad thing that happens, No matter what has happened we have contributed to Darjeeling mroe then the local community, The Darjeeling Mall which evry darjeeling guy is happy about is not of a Nepali but of a Marwari, The chancelor hotel now name changed is that of a bihari, the mahakal market is that of a bhutia , see all the other communities have contributed toDarjeeling, what about you all. what have you done.
7. Stop Blaming other communities or parties for the state we all are in , its us we the people who are to be blamed, ONce we followed Ghising without thinking , today we are following Bimal Gurung , without thinking again. Every one voted for BJP without asking a question about it , What good will we get out of it is yet to be seen.
8. Start growing as humans not as a community.
9. Stop being a nepali or a gorkhali , be a Human first.
10. What if you as an individual were sorriounded by hostile people all around , how would you all feel.
I Love My India said
Congratulations to Rakwesh, One thing I would like to say that original residents of Darjeeling are peacful, , sober, honest, brave , hardworking, jovial, good to all communities. Those are illegal mighrants from Nepal and Bhupalis are doing all those stuffs to others. Govt must find out and kick out them from India.
Rakwesh said
@ I LOVE MY INDIA
Man either you are blind or your are neglect full to the fact that these things are happening there in Darjeeling, There are bullies and not the government but the people will have to be changed , its the poeple who make the government, few more questions.
1. Where is the money that is being collected from the market going, From the shop owners , taxi stnads, Thela owners , where is all the money going.
2. Where is the momney collected fromt he government officials going, Three HUndered fromt he lower cadre and Five hundred from the higher cadre.
3. Who keeps the account of GJJM money.
4, Why are there so many stekes or bandhs in Darjeeling happening.
5. What about the people whoi earn and eat everyday, where will they goi what will happen to them, what will happen to their families.
6. Even if Darjeeling becomes , what is the thing that we will nsurvive on, economically we will be the poorest state and will have to be dependednt on the central government, same like right now.
7. why not ask for SEZ where we all will benefit without loosing anything.
8. Why did we supoport BJP in the elections.
Someone answer my questions please.
Rakwesh said
Heard the bandh is for a month, please confirm
barunroy said
Hi Rakwesh, so far no such statements has been made by GJM. In all probability it should not stretch that long. However, I cannot confirm anything at this moment.
Rakwesh said
Thanks Barun.
RAJA said
I’m not able to post any comments.
Rakwesh said
The GJM cadres being trained in Gorubathan, wiht all arms and amunations, dont know what GJm is trying to do, hope we are near a new andolan, and this time more locals will be killed, CONGRATULATIONS BIMAL GURUNG.
I am Nepali said
I have a small question. Can you ask what Bimal Gurun has done for the hills of Darjeeling? He is just putting the innocent janta in trouble. He is making good money with this aggitation but does he able to feed the people who earn on daily basis? Why we are asking for separate state? What we will have with this separate state? In this peak season of tourism, we are killing our people. do you think we are doing good with our own people? If you want Gorkhaland then go to Delhi and shake the parliment. Bimal Gurung, you are a cheep leader.
Rakwesh said
July 15th A bihari shopkeeper was looted in darjeeling bazaar yesterday, where was GLP then, one sack full of potatoes was looted from him, this is what bimal gurung is doing looting people, people cam to his place in the day time and said Bimal gurung had asked for that sack of potato , Now each sack contains atleast 60kg of potato, and each kilo costs Rs 24 multiply that and you will know what amount that poor shopkeeper was looted 1440 , looting a poor guy of that amount, this is just one of the incidents , there must be many more .
Rakwesh said
A bihari Shopkeeper was looted a sack of Potatoes yesterday by Some people who said they were fromt he party, each kilo costs Rs 24 and each sack contains atleast 60KG of potato, so teh total sum of 1440 , who will compensate that , is this the price the minority community has to pay in darjeeling.
barunroy said
Dear Rakwesh,
This is really very unfortunate. As you can understand, I also belong to a minority community and as such strongly condemn it. I think things like this should not happen and this incident should be investigated. This could however, also be some unscrupulous people using the name of Gorkha Janmukti Morcha and Mr. Bimal Gurung to take advantage of the situation. Anyways what ever the case may be, this incident still is deplorable.
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
very sad incident …. why this one is not given here?? why a poor bihari’s shop was being looted by goon when socalled unofficial JGM police in front ?? atleast in plain of bengal we never heard a single case of looting a marwaris/biharis shops because they are outsider …. this is showing what will happen if GL comes true…and because of these there is no support from non gorkhas in tarai & dooars …I kept siliguri out of count.
Rajneesh said
BG should be careful regarding the law and order situation, you can’t complain of WB’s police high handedness and then let incidents like this to happen in Darj. This matter should be investigated and the culprits punished. Goondagiri should not be tolerated.
Rakwesh said
HI,
This is not the first time or the only incident that has happened , this has been happening for long, the minority people have been suppressed all time long, THe marwaris the biharis , the bengalis every one is going through this, and the day these people get Gorkhaland , that day onwards its gonno be worse.
Investigating the matter , common what will you get out of it, A small lead BArun for you lets see what comes out of it , This Guy stays in Gaddi Khan and his name is Bidya Prasad whjo was looted, lets see if you can get any information out of it , This guy is so scared that he didnt even tell the name sof the people to the ward commissioner when he asked about it.
THE MINORITY COMMUNITY IS LIVING IN AN INSTANT FEAR OF BEING KILLED LOOTED , THE CENTRE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND ALL THESE THINGS OR ELSE THE SAME THING LIKE KASHMIR WILL HAPPEN HERE, WHO KNOWS ONE DAY DARJEELING MIHG TBE DECLARED A PART OF NEPAL , AND THATS NOT A GUESS ITS BECAUSE OF THE MAOIST INFLUENCE THATS THERE.
GO TAKE ON THE DAY GUYS.
Rakwesh said
Few more incidents of looting happened in Darjeeling, this time again the minority community was the target, one incident happened near TV tower ,where a family of the minority community was looted , the other happened in the Bazaar area, when those people filed an FIR, Bimal gurung asked them to take back the FIR. This is how Bimal gurung and the nepali community is treating the minority, the central government should never give darjeeling a status of the state or else , Darjeeling will be same like Kashmir.
Barun why dont you investigate if i am telling the truth, i hope you can tell the truth through your blogs to the people of Darjeeling and INDia.
patleybaskounpad said
cant be as bad as gujarat during the height of the pogroms..
but i have feeling that #564 you are up to some mischief..someone genuinely sympathetic to the victims would not be so politically vocal as to bring in kashmir and all that contentious baggage that the name invokes…
also that jump from a criminal report to such a sweeping political conclusions makes your report and the recommendations that goes with it quite suspect…
I Love My India said
Dont worry Rakwesh, Keep patient for some months. After 10th March 2009 bimal will commit suicide as per his commitment. After that Darjeeling will come out from these condition. All the GJMM anti nationals will kick out to Nepal or behind bar. These illegal mighrants from Nepal and Bhupalis are going to get treatment from Police and Public. BEING A RESIDENT OF DARJEELING I AM ASKING SORRY TO YOU. THESE IS YOUR OWN INDIA , NO ANTI INDIAN CAN HARM YOU.
Rakwesh said
@patleybaskounpad
Do you think that whatever i said was politically inclined towards something , but yes it is , and i can prove it is leading to that juncture of political turmoil wherein not only the janta but also the GOVT will see that this is Going to happen.
1. The funds being collected from people .
2. the funds comming from Sikkim.
3. GPL being trained by ex army official in gorubathan.
4. Number plates being changed to GL
5. Goivet offices , their bords being changed to GOVt Of GL
6. Mionorities being looted ]
7. Minorities being man handled.
8. Even Barun was threatened around a year and half ago,
Just because he is a bengali, a ne[pali newspaper being stopped SUNCHARI if you remember , just because they spoke the truth.
Do you know how many bengali families we have in Darj now , we can count them on fingers, earlier there were a lot, now only few .
There are many more things to be said.
The day is not far when for sure Darjeeling will turn out to be the next Kashmir , All the support comming from MAOIST< SIKKIM,ASSAM.
The earlier Spot was SINGLA bazaar , near Jorthang for colleting arms and ammunations, NOw it is GORUBATHAN. Deny these facts.
@ I LOVE MY India
Brother , BG will never commit suicite he is sucha coward he can never do that, before the aforesaid date there will be a big turmoil that will happen, all the GLP cadres are being trained to loot and kill. WAIT FOR THAT.
Angelina Lepcha said
DEar Barun,
I request you to kindly check the authenticity of this guy Rakwesh. His comments can potentially lead to a communal violence, which according to IPC/constitution is a crime.
Even if he is right he should be responsible enough to confide it to proper authority and with evidences. comments of such nature, specially in electronic media such as this blog can have cascading effect. Hope he behaves responsibly.
Thanks,
AAngelina
barunroy said
Dear Angelina,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I completely agree with you. I have offered Rakwesh to prove his allegations if not stop. He can create a very bad situation for everyone.
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
Dear Rakwesh,
I have never been threatened by anyone in Darjeeling Hills. In fact to the contrary, there were phone calls from outside Darjeeling Hills especially from Siliguri and Kolkata which had harassed me for a while but even that has died out. I have been remaining vigil over your allegations of lotting of the minority by the party (GJM as per your allegation) but I have so far found no evidence. Please be very careful while making allegations here – it might led to racial riots and people’s life might be lost due to one’s comments. As I have told you earlier if you could provide me names of the people who have been looted I can contact them and see to it that such things do not happen again. You can write to me at barunroydarj@gmail.com. HOWEVER, I REQUEST YOU IF YOU DO NOT HAVE CONCRETE EVIDENCES AND ARE ACTING ON HEAR-SAY PLEASE BE RESPONSIBLE WHILE COMMENTING! BEACON ONLINE HAS MORE THAN 14 LAKH READERS, THESE THINGS COULD LED TO SERIOUS TROUBLE.
Regs
Barun
Sanity said
Rakwesh is a spam launched by Amra Bangali on Beacon Online!
Rakwesh said
Dear Barun,
I hope i remember people going to your place and telling you things if you dont call that threating then so be it , anyways for the evidence start wiht this, the first incident that happened was in gaddi khan, also known as pond road , HL ghosh road, The name of the person looted is Bidya Prasad, and this happened a few days ago, i will not write a opersonal mail for sure i want all thos 14 lakh readers to know this that yes this is happening in Darjeeling and that also in the main bazaar, IF you want i can show you the way as well. when you reach the bazaar post office , there a road which goes towards botanical garden take the road, its actually a gali, near amarchand you will see the stairs, go down the stairs, when you reach down you will see two roads , one which goes to chyanbari, and one small gali towards your right , take that road and go down ask for bidya ,people will show you his home, first take on this one i will give you other names once i have seen things getting better, The tv tower and other looting incidents happening there.
@ sanity
i AM NOT A BENGALI, I AM ONE OF YOU. AND I AM RAISING QUESTIONS CAUSE I DONTLIKE WHATS HAPPENIONG AROUND.
Sanity said
#572
Our sympathies are with Bidya Prasad. Hope the people who looted him are caught and punished.
But you cannot extrapolate this incident to malign the entire Gorkhaland movement. And the kind of “harrasment” you are reporting here did not start with Gorkhaland Agitation II. It began from the time Marwaris and Biharis came to the hills – the words like Kaiyya and Dhotigathe were used long before even Gorkhaland Agitation I. No one is denying that there won’t be some aberrations in a mass movement – those who think these won’t happen are living in another world – but as is said racist treatments happen both ways. Only time will end these kind of incidents.
patleybaskounpad said
if the WBP don’t get the looters surely the GLP will…
Rakwesh said
@Sanity and @patleybaskounpad
I appreciate your gesture, this was only one incident where this thing happened, my question is not who is doling it , my question is where is GLP when these things are happening and as far as racist discrimination, you say it will stop opne day , why not today , why not start it from you from me , why not do it altogether , whats the harm in it, when i said that the situation will be like Kashmir , many people have been offended, but tell me will that situation not arise if , the minority is suppressed and offended every now and then, what i mena to say is this the the time when we have to be more careful to see that the minority is more safer, i am not here to allege some one or to start a fight , what i am asking is what is the ourpose and if there is a purpose is this the right way. eventually BG is gonna do whatever he thinks fit,. whereas i think the leaders and volunteers should be in delhi not in Darjeeling, why dont every one of them come to delhi and start doping social work and even better to show the country that we are really serious , i am ready to eb one of them to come out on the streets of Delhi sleep on the streets and beg and ,live, till the time we get Giorkhaland, but the question is whjat the use of these bandhs , whats the use of these so called agitation if the centre is not moved, there are ways of politics and ways of movements, people can be foreced only if proper pressure is applied,
By bandhs we are not only harming our poor local peole but also our neighbouring state sikkim, cmmom , the cadres almost 16000 plus local peop;le, i invite everyone to come to delhi and stay here in the streets till the time our demand for saperate state is met, how many of you will be willing to leave your professional commitments and come here , not many , its only the leaders who will be here as thats theri profession.
I am not against a party or a commyunity i am asking questions cause i am hurt, my beautiful darjeeling have been destryed, the hills are cryingwith pain and suffering.
This is a wake up calll
WAKE UP PEOPLE WAKE UP
Arun Lama said
Dear Rakwesh you can do your discussions in many other sections in this blog rather than in “Contact Me” section.
Rakwesh said
Dear Lama ,
I dont even need to discuss this anywhere, i cannot do anything about it buyt just speak , and if it does not make a difference then i better keep shut.
Luen Lama said
Rakwesh or who ever you are please heed what the Editor Barun has told you on his blog #570 and as you yourself have said so that you had better shut up on your blog # 577 I myself personally feel that this is a good idea.
Different ethnic communities gave been living in Harmony and peace for decades in the Darjeeling Hills and I suggest that we keep it this way and not create chaos.
You have mentioned that the attack & looting in one shop was a racist attack and that too in some gully and not known area of town, what about the umteen shops owned by other coomunites that line the roads of Darjeeling town, how come they have not been looted and attacked???? friend I feel that either you are jumping the gun or just plain Bulshitting!!!
Think before you write and take Barun’s & Angelina’s advice
Luen lama
I Love My India said
Two Points, Who Will feed so called GL? What is the source of money for GJMM? Mr K.L. Tamta (IGP) once said the link between Nepals Maobadi with present anti national movment at Darjeeling hills. India is a very strong country to deal with such kind of anti national activites in time.
I Love My India said
Dear Angelina, as per IPC/Constition , not paying taxes, not paying telephone bills, not paying electricity bills, attacking adivasis, instigation communal activites, threating Govt servents, comments aginst India and Indian etc are also anti indian activites. Those are doing and supporting so are anti indian and must be punished.
RAJA said
579.
You cant say what Rakwesh is saying all bullshit …. people of darj is quite communal (not everyone)…manytimes I have seen their attitute towards common tourists …. by the way if the incident what happened as per Rakwesh not occur in future then that would be good for all …else this kinda incident will create communal tension …. peoples of darj should aware of that there are many hill peoples stay in dooars and siliguri… hope things wont turn that bad … as we all are indian and personally I am connected to culture of both community.
RAJA said
580.
Excellent points against anjellina ….
Rakwesh said
Dear Lama ,
I think speaking the truth is bullshitting, well so be it , and this was just one of the incidents i mentioned , so chek the authenticity of whatever i have said , then when you find it i will give you other leads, i personally have nothing against anyone and i would prefer to keep shut, READ what Barun has written i quote ” it might led to racial riots and people’s life might be lost due to one’s comments ” Now see we have toi be careful befoer makuinga statement that might lead to so many deaths, Do you what barun is saying , even a normal man is scared of those thing shappening , i am telling all this cause i want ot to stop and not start something, if you people who are the educated and enligntened lot understand it , well and good or else we will waiut and wathc whatever happens.
Luen Lama said
Dear Rakwesh,
I do not want to waste my time argueing about what you are writing as I honestly feel that YOU ARE NOT EVEN FROM DARJEELING but someone from wherever but here, who is trying to stir up communial animosity in the hills and trying to put a wedge in the movement.
I rest my case
Luen Lama
pramesh said
hi barun malai auta kura jannu cha tapai harlay thulo kaam garnu hudai cha yasari sansar ko samunnay hami gorkhay harlai chinawnu hudai cha yo auta maahan kaam ho ani ajai auta binty tapai lai cha ki hami gorkha land ko ho hai tara gorkha land ma ajai pani yasto thaw haru cha jaha sadaran manchay harlai tyaha samma pugnu pani garho parcha tapai harlay tyasta thaw harko kehi video ra picture haru pani halnu bhayo bhanay sayad hami gorkhay haru ma yo hamro bharat sarkar ko daya po jagla ki asa cha tapai harlay garnu huncha hola bhanera but really u guys are doing great job,
hinduactivist said
Namaskar,
Hum sab hindu rastra ke nagrik hai, hum yaha allahabad se aap logo ke lie subhkamnaye bhej rahe hai, chuki hum thode door hai hum sab madat nahi kar sakte , par kabhi jarurat padi to aap loog chinta na kijiega, hum hinduo ki madat ke lie hamesha taiyar hai, aap ko alag rajya jaroor milega , ye hum logo ka prayas rahega . Chinta na kare, HUM BJP ke peeche hai aur BJP ko jitane ke lie Dhanyabad.
Agar jarurat padi to hamari puri sanstha jo ki kareep 80.000 ki hai Darjeeling aake aap logo ki madat karne ko taiyaar hai.
Namaskar.
Luen Lama said
Kudus to our Darjeeling MP Jaswant Singh for having put across so professionally our demand for Gorkhaland in the Lok Sabha.My Congratulations to Bimal Gurung & the Central Committee for having selected the right man who is able to take up our cause in the Esteemed House.
Let us now hope and pray that the Tripartite talks on the 11th of August be successful and that a lot of problems and especialy the matter of Gorkhaland can be settled with a good healthy dialogue amongst all parties involved in the meeting.
One other matter that our MP brought up was Sikkim – Why does Sikkim get any funds whenever they ask for it for instance he mentioned the 4 lane highway to Nathu La. Sikkim depends on handouts of crores from the Center hence they can afford major development programs, whereas we here in darjeeling are starving with no funds and development yet we contribute more than Sikkim to the State & Center coffers. As our MP has pointed out is it because Sikkim is next to the Chinese border!! so are we as explained by him and I feel that handing out crores to our neighbour is not the answer and is definitely creating a disparity in this Himalayan Region. The Government of India should realize that we have always been with India and did not come into the fold the otherday and have every right for our demand and help.
Let me tell you that we people from the Darjeeling Hills are definately more hardworking and have never depended on handouts, our people work hard and the proof is in the pudding if one only has to check the amount of Taxes etc., we give back to the Government.
Give us our Gorkhaland State and the funding and we will prove what we can make of our State.
GIVE US GO
luen lama
Rakwesh said
hehhehehehhehehhe
I Love My India said
@587. Zealously has its limit, Your Bimal/Ghishing looted all the money for developmentnt for Darjeeling. Go and ask them instead of try to be more parasite. Darjeeling is already geting three times more then her Income. Govt should not feed Darjeelong furhter when lalgarh, Kalahandi etc peoples are starving. Darjeeling has no right to ask for more money. First you try to respect others People as mentioned by Rakwesh or get out from India you anti Indian GJMM.
JJSM said
587.
It seems they (peoples of darj) want to lead a life like peoples of sikkim, that’s why he is more keen to point out how sikkim gets fund from centre. All these identity crisis issue is just bakwas, they want just money to live good life. hey guys do work hard or relocate yourself and earn , why you are looking for on govt dole?? shameless people first pay govt taxes then expect something from govt.
Rakwesh said
All these alligations and reports that the government has not done anything for Darjeeling is bullshit, man theres a law called RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT 1991,you can get all the information in just Rs 50 , and you will be surprised to know how much your councillors have cheated you, for you ghising was god one day, today someone else is, hahahahhahahahahaha very funny, its so amzing that you change gods everyday.
Check it up guys all those facts laid down by me on all the comments are true if you have the gutts go ahead investigate it ,
@ BARUN
Did u check the authentication on my , your so called alligations , to tell you you havent, but still the truth remains the same , even if you find something you will not report it as you life is also in danger, remember you are a bengali. and these people are big time communal.
I Love My India said
Dont worry Rakwesh, these anti inidans soon be out from Darjeeling. Their must be some criminal cases aginst the propagetors of anti indian activites in any form.
Rakwesh said
@ I love MY INdia,
Not all only those whose minds are contaminted will have to be changed ,they are not anti indians but misguided.
I Love My India said
Mr Rudy are you going through these site to see the true plight of your State people in Darjeeling Hills?
layman: A gorkha doesn't rebel without a cause. said
Thank you Rudra Prathap Rudy !!!!
Darlagyomanchey said
Rudra P.Rudy hamro hero, gorkha ko hero ra darj ko hero.
Jai hamro gorkhaland
Jai hamro India
layman: A gorkha doesn't rebel without a cause. said
Jat, Sikh, Maratha, Madrasha, Bihari Gorkha regiment rock !! Bengal politician sucks !!!
Rakwesh said
I dont know if all of you know this , but Darjeelingwas in Bihar once, run by the administrative group of Bihar, till last few years ago, the SBI of darjeeling was under PATNA branch and many mroe administrative things of Darjeeling were run by bihar government and not by Bengal Government. So not only Bihari’s have the right to stay here but Darjeeling is theri RIHGT PLACE.
Rakwesh said
Darjeeling was a part of bihar.WE biharis have every right to stay in Darjeeling.
layman said
we know it Rakhwesh. And nobody will question your right to stay. ABout imtimidating attitue of some people, I think its for everyone. Not just minorities.Unfortunately we cant even turn to police as the authority of WB police in Darjeeling is close to nought.
Rakwesh said
tHIS IS NEWS POSTED HRE ITSELF , THANKS BARUN, THIS SEEMS TO BE PERFECT JOURNALISM NOW, INSPITE OF BEING A PRAISING BORAD FOR gjjm THE TRUTH IS BEING PUBLISHED HERE, I HAD WARNED OF THESE EVENTS EARLIER, FIRST IT WAS WITH THE MINORITIES NOW ITS WITH THE SIKKIMISE PEOPLE , TOMORROW IT WILL COME TO OUR HOMES.
STOP BIMAL GURUNG < STOP GLP.
Despite the National Highway 31A being exempted from the recent Darjeeling Hills bandh purview, reaching from Siliguri to the safety of Sikkim is gradually evolving as Dante’s version of hell as Gorkha Janmukti Morcha’s frontal organization, Gorkhaland Personnel (GLP) has overtaken the policing duties along the highway right from Sevoke to Rangpo putting the West Bengal police out of the picture.
News reports have been coming in the past couple of days of the ‘harassment’, ‘beatings’ and ‘kangaroo courts’ allegedly being perpetuated by the GLP members on the commuters travelling from Siliguri to Sikkim. Impromptu ‘checks’ have become the order of day in the highway even as frustrated commuters have said that it high time that the West Bengal police should hang up their boots.
Three students from Sikkim were reportedly roughed up by the alleged GLP somewhere between Rangpo and Melli along the Highway on July 29 night.
A SNT driver and his helper was also allegedly assaulted and looted by the alleged GLP members on the same night.
The victim in his submission to the Rangpo police of East Sikkim has informed that he and his helper were proceeding towards Sikkim with a consignment of cement for GREF in SNT truck on the night of July 29. We were stopped at 10th mile near Rangpo by 25-30 youth of GLP who then assaulted us during which became unconscious, the victim said in his complaint to the Rangpo police.
When we regained our conscious, we found that that the vehicle was not in its original position and had been parked at some distance in a lonely place, the victim narrated to the police in his complaint. There were two youth in the truck who forced us to drink beer and then sent us to Rangpo, the victim said.
After checking our belongings, my purse containing Rs. 3500 was missing along with the clothes, the victim said in his submission adding that documents of the vehicle and other clothes were scattered.
The victim has sought justice from the police. He has also sent similar representations to the secretary of his department and president of Drivers and Conductors Association, Gangtok.
Meanwhile, the Sikkim police have already taken up the matter of recent complaints along the NH 31 A with their counterparts in West Bengal.
SP (East) Dr. Mandeep Singh Tuli told Sikkim Express that the East district police has officially written to the Darjeeling police on the issue. The Sikkim police have also taken up the matter with the IG (North Bengal Police).
They have assured us they will take necessary actions and there will be no unnecessary harassment, said the SP.
At the same time, the jurisdiction angle has crept up. As the incidents are allegedly occurring in the NH 31 A section of West Bengal, authorities here are of the view that the complaints should be first made with the police station of that particular jurisdiction where the alleged assaults have taken place.
sunny said
there are few bad comments please delete those in the blog
Rakwesh said
Dear Barun,
You were asking for proof right, what about the news article on your blog, hope that prooves a lot.
layman said
Somebody please help Rakwesh.
Rakwesh said
@Layman
YEs friend i do need help. in fact a loads of it , may be mental as well, as because may be i have seent he world may be more then what you might have , thats why i feel pathetic when i see the contaminated mind of our own and feel sick about it , hope you are not inclusive.
MMM said
@Barun
Why are not highlighting the news of victimization of DGP Anil Pradhan in the State of Meghalaya as because he is Non-Tribal (Gorkha). Steering Committee Against Murder of Democracy (SCAMOD) and organisation & NGOs as such are representative of organized communal hatred in the State. They oppose any non-tribal getting any job of higher profile.
Shillong is becoming a growing example of intolerance and hatred in the society in India.
Presently Night Blockades are being implemented by Steering Committee Against Murder of Democracy (SCAMOD) in the three Districts of Khasi Hill in demand of removing the DGP.
Few days back Two Bengali Lecturers were forced to leave St. Anthony’s college just because they are non-khasis.
Heights of Discrimination. Such news should be Highlighted at National Level.
I Love My India said
GJMM is like to do same things in Darjeeling hills.
Phoenix Within said
Barun bhai,
I came across your blogspot while searching the net for news on Darjeeling during the recent indefinite strikes. I must say that you are doing a fabulous job getting all the different views across.
I am really an outsider and only in the hills for a few years but I too am moved and affected by how the GL agitation has unfolded here in the last two years.
Beacononline has provided the necessary platform for discussion. I respect the aspiration of the people of the hills and wish the very best for them.
Nash said
We are going through a predicament back at home and although I work in Delhi, I feel a deep sense tentativeness going around in the hills. Looking at our pitiful state and our sense of lack of belonging, it was right for Mr BG to take up the initiative. Little do I understand what his heart says and fear that he turns out to be another opportunits(God forbid).
Gorkhaland seems to be a distant dream and that nothing can be achieved without risk but do we want another Martyr’s day? GL should not be formed in the cost of thousands of marytrs and with the kind of chaos hapenning at home where parties have started taking law in their hands I fear that the worst is yet to come.
Like someone mentioned, its been more than a century that we’re fighting for this cause, still nothings changed so, I ask you what has happened to us.Haven’t we learnt anything. If we want change, then first of all we need to change ourselves, create a Gorkhaland in our mind. Develop and garner our skills and intelligence. Most importantly stay together and unite as one which is/was the need of the hour.
Also, doesn’t the saying hold true anymore that: “the pen is mightier than the sword.”
I do not want another Martyrs day is my answer to the above question. Gorkhaland should not be formed at the cost of thousand of innocent people’s life.
So,let us all seek,learn and develop our minds each day and if we stay undeterred on our hopes and dreams then surely by Gods grace, we will achieve GL someday.
I Love My India said
First develope the sense of contributing something for the country instead of looting money on the name of DGHC etc. Darjeeling is getting three times more then her income, first try to reverse these and contribute to Indian exchequer.
Rakwesh said
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Darlagyomanchey said
Ta ra yo swine flu in contact me ma alik bhaina jasto lagyo
acme said
Third round of tripartite talks with GJM held
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15:30 IST
The third round of tripartite talks between the Government of India, Government of West Bengal and the representatives of the Gorkha Janmukti Morcha (GJM) was held here today. The talks were held in a free, frank and cordial atmosphere. The Government of India delegation was led by the Union Home Secretary, Shri G.K.Pillai, the West Bengal Government delegation by their Chief Secretary, Shri A.K.Chakrabarty and the GJM delegation by Shri Anmole Prasad.
2. It was agreed that:
(i) The proposal for establishment of a Hill Council under the Sixth Schedule of the Indian Constitution would be dropped.
(ii) It was agreed, in principle, to the repeal of the DGHC Act, 1988. The repeal of the Act would be processed as soon as an alternative administrative setup/framework is finalized through mutual consultations and agreement.
(iii) The Government of India announced the appointment of an Interlocutor to carry forward the discussions held during the third round of tripartite talks and both the State Government and the GJM welcomed the same. The GJM assured that a peaceful and conducive atmosphere would be maintained and all the parties agreed to work in a spirit of constructive cooperation to carry the talks forward.
(iv) The Central Government would also send a team to Darjeeling to review the development works in the District.
(v) The Government of India and the Government of West Bengal proposed that as an interim measure and to restore the democratic process, the elections to the Panchayat Samitis, Gram Panchayats as well as Municipalities be allowed to be held. The GJM stated that they would consult and revert back to the State Government.
(vi) It was informed by the Government of West Bengal that unutilized portions of the CRF and special Central assistance amounting to Rs.70 crores was lying unutilized. It was agreed that a team of State Government officials would be sent to Darjeeling to discuss the utilization of these funds.
(vii) It was agreed that the next tripartite meeting would be held on December 21, 2009 at Darjeeling.
Nash said
Its a very good thing that we are finally coming into terms with the
government and that there would be cooperation to carry the talks
forward. And, with a huge amt of fund on its way for development purpose,it sure is a good thing. Also, I think the scenerio back home would be much much better however, i hope and pray that our leaders do not deter their plans for what they have stood. They say: history repeats itself and i’m afraid it might.
It is now or never, and of course, if we don’t give up we will never fail.
Lastly, “Its not about dying nobly for a cause but, its about living humbly for one.”
I hope you are reading this Mr BG and members.
sud said
Dear Barun,
last week I wrote:
Dear Barun,
BTW, the swine is slowly spreading across India. Darjeeling being a tourist destination (it is still right?) the pandemic can play havoc there if we are not well prepared. As a good friend & a concerned reader could I ask you to kindly shed some light on that quarter if possible? I was wondering how our medical officers (or GLP?) have prepared for that. It is a curable flu but could prove fatal if the administration is caught napping.
Sincerely,
sud
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Was just curious, if there was some developements in this direction.
I am really concerned because there are certain specifications given for the treatment shell of this contagious virus:
…must have separate entry/exit, a distance of at least six feet between two beds, ventilators (for the patients), separate bathrooms, separate doctors’ changing rooms, trained paramedical and support staff, and separate bio-waste disposal facilities, among other conditions.
I don’t even know if Darjeeling administration has a testing facility and tamiflu tablets at its disposal.
Please help, Barun.
sincerely,
sud
aardee said
Barun please check Save the Gorkhas comment 642 onwards. Some of the names I uploaded are showing up with strikethrough feature…please remove it.
Thanks!
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I am checking them as we speak.
Cheers
Barun
Jashoda said
Hi Barun,
This is Jashoda from Gangtok. I am a great fan of your site. I have referred your site to a lot of friends. The mobile updates are really helpful. You are doing a great job. I would love to read your books. Let me see if I can get them in Gtk. Keep up the wonderful job.
Yunus Masih said
Hi,
We are eager to listen Pastor Mathias Subba’s Songs and worship with him kindly put some songs of him and make a separate site of Pastor Mathias Subba. God bless you.
Tamang said
Hi all,
I need a help please… I got a mail in my Yahoo ID saying “congratulation you have won £500, 00.00 GBP. Please forward your account number so that we can transfer the amount to your account number”.
They have also sent a certification by emailmentioning my name and the amount on it.
Is this a fake..? Please help.
chyapu lock.... said
FAKE!!!
Tamang said
Ek palta account number dinu ki ke garnu…coz I dont use that account number…
layman said
622
you are trying to rob the robbers?
Sanity said
#620 & 622
Are you mad? Search on Google and find how these cheats work. What did you win the money for? Did you ever buy a lottery ticket? How can you win a prize with even buying a ticket? And as for certificates, you will even get a certificate signed by Obama himself! Delete the email and feel lucky that you did not lose thousands of rupees to these cheats.
Next time you see such an email, select it without opening and throw it out of your mailbox/inbox!
P Pradhan said
Tamang,
Google the term “phishing” and “Social Engineering”.
Rgrds
Tamang said
Thanx alot to all..will ignore the mail..
I have checked the “phishing” and “Social Engineering”…thanx P Pradhan..
Sanity,
you are right…I never brought a lottery ticket,
Rajneesh said
Dear Tamang,
I get e mails (and letters – from Spain) like these regularly…IT IS A FAKE…..obviously, they are mostly from Nigeria. They ask for your bank details etc. and will ask you to deposit some amount of money before they can give you your prize money. As soon as you deposit the money …they vanish. But some idiots do fall into the trap and I hope you are not one of them.
Rakwesh said
Arpana Chettri aged 19yrs resident of Pulung Dung Busty, Sukhia Pokhari, Darjeeling is suffering from Tuberculosis.
She comes from a very poor family and her father is unable to bear the medical expenses in Delhi.
Doctors have advised her two injections a day which costs Rs.300/- each.
C.K. Chettri father of Arpana is facing financial problems. Therefore, we would request all of you to provide some financial help to this family at the time of need.
She is admitted at T.B. Hospital in Mehrauli, Delhi and her Bed No. 12, Ward No. 11.
C.K. Chettri can be reached at: 0 97177 54 736
Dip Zimba, Gorkha Welfare Society Phone number : 011- 26104971
Contribution so far:
Gorkha Welfare Society, Delhi – Rs.2,500/-
Gorkha Janmukti Morcha, Delhi – Rs. 1,650/-
HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA VERY FUNNY gjm CONTRIBUTING ONLY 1650 HEHEHHEHEHHEHEHE
aardee said
Barun check the postings in Jaswant singh line and also in this Contact me line…
Tks
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
I am taking a look at it as we speak.
Cheers
Barun
aardee said
Barun all the Nehru Cup scanned clippings of Bhaichung & Sunil Chhetri you have mentioned it as KAPIL Chhetri yesterday & today. Please correct.
Thanks!
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! That surely was a huge mistake. I am absolutely sorry. That should really go to this years bloppers. I have corrected it. Do forgive me for the same.
Cheers
Barun
xxx said
when i write “shit” on this blog, it is deleted.
There are bloggers who use words like “&&&& ”, “((* ” etc those are not deleted.
so who the SHITHEAD is the moderater of this blog.
Barun you need to change that person or give him some sense of reasoning.
aardee said
Barun I hope u have sent me the latest copy of “SPACES” n also to my nephew.
Thanks!
Luen Lama said
Hi Barun,
I like the new Logo, very smart and eye catching’A REAL BEACON IN THE DARK”
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Luen Lama
Luen Lama said
Hi Barun,
I like the new Logo, very smart and eye catching’A REAL BEACON IN THE DARK”
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Lama,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you very much. I wanted to make a logo for The Himalayan Beacon Page on Facebook. This logo is simple yet very appropriate.
Cheers
Barun
Praveen Dwivedi said
If i remember well , that logo used to be the cover page for the magazine.
vanita rathod said
need to join NDA COCHING CLASS,PLZ INFORM ME WHEN R STARTING THE CLASS,HOW MUCH IS THE AMOUNT FOR CLASS,PLZ GIVE THE INFORMATION TO MY E-MAIL ID SIR PLZ DO IT…….
Phoenix Within said
Dear Barun,
Is it possible to get a copy of the “Fallen Cicada” ? It seems to have many interesting facts on Darjeeling.
Hope to hear from you soon.
PW
minaxi said
hi i am minaxi..i am looking for a job in uco bank.
minaxi said
hello sir..i am minaxi. i am looking for a job in uco bank.
Dinesh Chettri said
Dear Barun,
Please share this article about KHAS Gorkhas over here in beacononline..
http://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%B8
Thanks.
Dinesh Chettri said
Dear Barun,
Could you please give place for this article about Khas Gorkhas in your website.
http://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%B8
696 said
Would you please give me the information about where can i find the educational office at Darjeeling or kalimpong where We can get the forms for the scholarships for higher educations(college) and can anyone tell me if someone has received it so far??????
Phoenix Within said
Blooper Barun,
Today’s installment of ‘Himalayan Journals’ is Episode 11 !
Please kindly rectify.
Regs,
PW
barunroy said
Dear Phoenix,
Thank you for sharing the mistake. I am extremely sorry for the same.
Cheers
Barun
Yam Bahadur Chand said
#164
JTMji
I would like to bring to your notice that 2/3rd part of Terai was returned to the Kingdom of Nepal in 1816. The part of Terai Shree Teen (Prime Minister for life, due to deranged King Surendra) Jung Bahadur Rana was given covers Banke, Bardiya, Kailali, and Kanchanpur in West Nepal, when British were pleased with his service to supress the 1st War of Indenedence in 1857. This part of Terai is also called “Naya Nepal”.
Rest of the part of Terai was mostly granted to top officials of the King as mostly payment towards their salaries as the Kingdom ran out of funds to pay them. But this region was mostly covered by dense forests, as such called “Char Kose Jhadi”, and not suitable for hill people due to extreme heat and many types of tropical deseases. As a result the landowners pleaded people from Bihar, U.P. to move there and cultivate. As a result of this and also later due to unequal treaty of 1950 there became an open influx of people from these part of India.
I call 1950 treaty between nepal and India unequal, because this treaty was signed by Mohan Shumsher from Nepal, who was persecuted by both Nepalese people and also by India. As India helped to abolish Rana Family rule in Nepal, Nepalese people too obliged to India or they were so naive to accept this treaty.
Now as a result this treaty people of both country could go to one another country and do service, own property etc., but this honoured by only Nepalese side not Indian side. Indian Central Govt. tends to accept it and recruits in Central services, but whichever state you go there are their own rules. Now, Nepalese side has these Indian immigrants even President, Vice President, Dep. Prime Minister etc. in Nepal, but in India the Gorkhas/Nepalese should be reciprocated like the same, but porr them, they are still finding hard to get any basic benefits as their normal citizens.
There are so many things to be discussed when the question of so called Madhise comes up. Hope to clarify my opinion in future.
PS.: I personally do not consider the word “Madhise” a derogatory, as this means people of Madhes or Tarai. And the people of hills are called “Pahade”.
Yam Bahadur Chand said
#620
Dear Tamang
Whenever you get such emails, just think yourself why should you get such amount for nothing? Which means do not read the complete mail, just delete it or file it to spam. In India this won’t mean anything but here in Canada or the USA if you send them bank account number or any other identity details to the sender then everything you own will be in jeopardy. These scammers may even get Credit cards in your name and use it and you will be liable pay the banks, which means that you will be liable to pay even if you do not have any money in your bank account.
Take care!
Yam Chand
Mahesh K Patel said
Dear Shree Barun, I need your help to find contact detail of well known personality : Bindo Pradhan, the cinematographer,the gem of the hills. I and Binod were together during interview process at FTII,Pune..he made it and I could not. I lost contact with him after a year or two since then. Recently,after going thru various postings on cyber space about him ,I found that his journey to success was not diffretn from taht of mine, althugh I am in different field & settled in U.S. , we had a common vehicle-the PHOTOGRAPHY. I will appreciate it if you could provide his e-mail/phone or communicate my msg. to him. Regards..Mahesh K Patel, mks504@hotmail.com
BISHAL PRADHAN said
DEAR SIR/DAJU
FIRSTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE DAILY NEWS OF DARJEELING AS WELL AS DOOARS, I AM IN BHUBANESWAR PURSUING MBA, YOU ARE DOING THEE GOOD JOB IT CANNOT BE EXPRESSED IN WORDS IF U CAN PUBLISH A PAPER OR HIGHLIGHT THE ISSUE REGARDING THE CONFLICT BETWEEN ADIVASIS BIKAS PARISHAD AND GORKHAS FOR THE GORKHALAND MANY PEOPLE LOSES EVERY THING THEIR HOUSES, FAMILY MEMBERS WHICH THEY EARNED DURING THIER WHOLELIFE STRUGGLING HARD IN THE TEA AREAS BUT FINALLY ENDED WITH NOTHING NOR THEY WERE PROVIDED COMPENSATION, AT THE TIME Mr. BIMAL GURUNG ASSURED ABT THE COMPENSATION FROM THE GOVT AND THEIR PARTY, BUT ESPECIALLY IN NAGRAKATA BLOCK THEY WERE NOT PROVIDED ANY KIND OF HELP, PEOPLE IN THE DARJEELING ITS VERY EASY FOR THEM TO START MOVEMENT BESAUSER ALL ARE GORKHA DOMINATED PLACES BUT WHAT ABT THE GORKHAS IN THE DOOARS, IN SOME TEA ESTATE THEY HAVE ONLY 5 PERCENT OF THE GORKHA POPULATION DO THEY REALISED WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS TO THEM, EACH DAY THEY ARE LIVING IN FEAR HOPE ANY TIME THEY MIGHT COME AND DESTROY THIER ASSETS. THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO Mr. BIMAL GURUNG AND THIER PARTY MEMBERS TO THINK ABT THEM AND FIGHT FOR THIER COMPENSATION WHAT EVER THEY HAVE LOST.
AND THINK FOR THE ENTREPRENEUR WHO HAVE PUT ALL THEIR EFFORT TO REACH THE GOAL OF THIER LIFE ITS VERY HARD TO MAKE PROFIT AND TO GENERATE EMPOWERMENT, AS EXAMPLE SCHOOL ARE GENERATING PROFIT BUT DUE TO STRIKE AND ALL THIER BUSINESS HAS GONE DOWN AND TOP LEADERS SON AND DAUGHTER ARE GOING OUT FOR THIER EDUCATION THEY THINK FOR THIER SON AND DAUGHTER BUT WHAT ABT THE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDING IN DARJEELING DISTRICT THEY DONT THINK THAT THEY ARE SPOILING THIER CAREER.
IF WE ACHIEVE GORKHALAND WHO WILL RUN THE STATE WE NEED HIGHLY QUALITY STUDENT AND BUREAUCRAT THAT TIME WERE WE WILL BRING ALL THE RESOURCES AT THAT TIME, WE WILL BRING AGIN THE BENGALI BABOOO TO RUN THE STATE.
PLEASE HIGHLIGHTS THESE POINTS SIR BECAUSE THEY SHOULD NOT OMIT THIS FACTS.
I AM ONE OF THE PERSON WHO HAVE LOST HIS ASSETS FOR THE SAKE OF GORKHALAND AND WE HAVENT RECEIVE ANY COMPENSATION TILL YET.
BUT STILL WE HAVE FAITH ON Mr. BIMAL GURUNG, EARLIER ALSO WE HAVE SUPPORTED FOR GORKHALAND LAND BUT THAT TIME GISHING HAS COME WITH DGHC LIVING THE DOOARS BUT WE DONT EXPECT THIS FROM MR. GURUNG HOPE WHAT EVER HE BRINGS FRM THE GOVT. IT SHOULD BE FOR BOTH THE REGION DARJEELING AS WELL AS DOOARS PEOPLE.
rajeev said
hello friend ,how are u ,also i want join the delhi police also i know iwll become a police . but yaar some problamS .but icant say .this is the good way for me . acholy I am very poor person .also i have some familyS problam .thatswhy everybody says to me you cant do anything but my friendS said to me yaar you can do everything.thatswhy what should i do .
thankyou
you can mail rajee0065@gmail.com
rajeev said
Bishal Kirat Rai said
Happy Birthday Barun.. May all your dreams come true today and always…
barunroy said
Thank you very much Bishal!
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Barun,
Wish you A Very Very Happy Birthday!
Regards,
Nisha
barunroy said
Thank you very much Nisha.
Regs
Barun
Phoenix Within said
Dear Barun,
Many happy returns of the Day !
May God bless you.
Cheers !
PW.
barunroy said
Dear Phoenix,
Thank you very much.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
Dear Barun, Happy Birthday!! May God bless you in all your endeavours. regds, PJ
barunroy said
Hi PJ,
Thank you very very much. You guys are transforming this day into a ‘great’ day for me.
Regs
Barun
YKS said
Dear Barun,
Many Happy Returns of the day.
rgds
YK
Rajneesh said
A Very Happy Birthday Barun. May all your wishes come true.
Anita said
Dear friend Barun,
Happy Birthday to you from Stockholm as well. Hope the rest of your day will be a lovely one!! Here we are all fine. I am still reading your blogg every single day although my comments are rare nowadays. I saw your “Flag counter” from october 29th with the Swedish flag and 21 taggings. What do you mean by “taggings”? Please tell me. Is it comments from Sweden or do you mean that 21 persons in Sweden are reading your blog or it is something else.
Best regards
Anita
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Thapa,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you very very much!
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
Dear barun,
Wishing you a very happy B’day.
regs,
Raja
barunroy said
Dear Raja,
Thank you very much.
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
Dear Anita,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you very very much for the birthday wishes. Its great to hear that you are all doing well. Please do give my deepest regards and best wishes to your family. I started using the ‘Flag Counter’ since Beacon Online is reaching almost 2 million hits. I want to know how many bloggers and from which countries are actively participating on Beacon Online. The Flag Counter tags the IP address and once an IP address is tagged it is counted as one. The same IP addressed is not counted again. In the few days that it has begun tagging visitors to Beacon Online it has been giving interesting results. Yes, there are 21 taggings mean 21 IP address from Sweden are being tagged. It is possible that there are 21 people browsing Beacon Online on a single day. Since more than one individual could use one computer, it could also be possible that there are more. It is really very fascinating.
Regs
Barun
Phoenix Within said
Dear Barun,
How is JTM now ? Did you get any more news of her ?
Do hope she gets well very soon.
PW.
Ron said
Date:- Date:- 8 nov. ,008.
BBC [ British broadcasting corporation ? ]
Bush house , London , UK
You proud white people, particularly British who were and are working for BBC, do not always become too much smart, you were and are doing nuisance, harmful, undisciplined,… deeds, through out the world, by your always impolite, proud, irresponsible,…. news service program. do not continuously use impolite language to the respected seniors, respected presidents, respected prime ministers, respected teachers, respected religious leaders, …….. of any religions of any community of the world, respected professors,………Typical paks must be here. Arab wannabes. Of Course. You black arabs. in BBC news service, particularly BBC Nepali program. Because by listening , seeing,… your such BBC news service program, children of whole world will be impolite . fire immediately, your not respectful, good for nothing, proud, extremely impolite, rough, rowdy, un civilized, Nepali staffs, who are employed for BBC, Nepali service in UK , Nepal , USA and rest of the world.
Amit Bhandari said
Congratulations to The Himalayan Beacon for crossing the 2 Million marks. Great Job!
Lhamu Tshering said
Congratulations to Mr. Barun Roy and The Himalayan Beacon for corssing the Two Million marks. It is really fantastic!
Silicon Megatrix said
On the behalf of the entire Silicon Megatrix, Congratulations to Beacon Online for grossing 2 million hits in less than two years. Please keep up the great work!
Ranbir Thapa said
बरुन भाई २ मिल्लिओन (बिस लख) हित्स क्रोस्स गरेकोमा धेरै धेरै शुभकम्न। तपाईंको कार्य सरह्निय छ
रन्बिर थापा
Anita subba said
बेअकोन अन्लाईनलाई शुभकामना / Congratulations to Beacon Online for 2 Million marks! Thanks for your selfless work!
Gwc said
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luen lama said
Comment 669
What’s this poor guy must have got shafted by BBC especially by the Nepalese service personnel. Can you blame BBC????? hahahahahahaha