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Corinne said
Hi Barun Daju
First of all, great journalistic work you’re doing here! Keep it up, I appreciate the transparency of your site, and the voicing of different opinions. I lived in Kalimpong in 2006 and 2007, and your site and the Darjeeling Times give me a chance to keep up in Switzerland with what’s happening in Darj.
I’m a journalist as well, and writing a story on the Gorkhaland issue. There’s hardly any coverage in the Western media, as it happens often to “forgotten” tensions and conflicts. Will send you the story if I don’t forget.
But I have a question: I read Bappaditya Paul’s “Gorkhaland is my monkey” interview with Ghisingh. What does Ghisingh mean with the “international spy network”? I haven’t heard anyone mention that before. Thanx for your help!
Corinne
barunroy said
Dear Corinne,
Greetings from Darjeeling and thank you for your comment. We would all love to read your story on Gorkhaland issue. In fact, it would provide us all a whole new perspective on Gorkhaland. Regarding Subash Ghisingh’s quote on the ‘international spy network’, we can’t really come to conclusion as to what he really meant. However, it can’t be taken as to be mere ramblings either, since this has become one of the most vulnerable of all regions in Eastern India. The North East especially Nagaland, Manipur, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh are ridden with Anti-India movement with militant outfits like NSCN, Karen, ULFA and the likes. China has direct involvement in the area and so does the Military Junta from Mynamar with the Drug crescent starting here. Towards the North and the West is Bhutan with the Lhotsampa problem and the training camps of the ULFA and NSCN. And of course in the East – Nepal with a porous border and the Maoist Insurgency made worse by the infancy of democractic institutions. It is also a well known fact that Nepal has now became a safe haven for Terrorists organizations like Lasker-e-toiba, Jaish a Mohammed etc. Hence, the greater activity of the Intelligence agencies of China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal,Mynamar among others coming into play.
Anyway whether Subash Ghisingh was talking about these very things could merely be a coincidence after his self imposed exile.
If you need any information on Gorkhaland and especially the Gorkhaland movement, you can write back to me.
Regs and best wishes,
Barun Roy
Susamir said
Dear Barun,
Just a quick question. Which is this newly formed party- the GNLF(C)? I saw you mention this in your post about the coalition parties’ meeting.
Thanks,
Susamir
barunroy said
GNLF(C) is not a newly formed party. It stand for Gorkha National Liberation Front (C.K. Pradhan Faction). This was formed after the assassination of C. K. Pradhan in Kalimpong. The supporters of C. K. Pradhan broke away from GNLF and created GNLF (C). The party was formed in 2002
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
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Regs
Barun
rabden Rongkup said
THE VOICE OF THE INDEGINOUS PEOPLE ;;;Couldent help but listen to the sagas told to us every evening by our grand parents , tales mostly relates to the ancient glories past of these hills and hillocks of the Mt Kanchanjunga ranges handed to them by their fore fathers.
When I grew up as a native I came to understand much had changed then the history related to me, but the language that we speak “Rong –a – Ring” commonly known to the world as Lepcha Bhasa deciphered everything. As so many important things are incorporated inside which is useful in my day to day life, for example it starts from simple things such as names of the places , what is the landscape like ? whether it is right to settle out there , whether medicines are found out there ? what kind of trees, birds ,animals are found? How strong is the flow of the water in the river ………etc
I would like to give you few example each song , poems , spontaneous songs called APPRAVOM Laments of the ancient country called the MAYEL-LYANG, the boundary stretches to every direction from Mt Kanchanjunga ,
lets us begin from the rivers , Ranu , Rangeet, Rumong etc this language is a systematic language and most names of the rivers start from the letter “R” because we believe that it is starting from the ‘Rum-Lyang’ i.e. Rum means God and Lyang –means land as the believe in Lepcha religion is that the 1st man and women was created from the snow of the Holy Mountain , so when we die we return back to the mountain , so since its coming from RumLyang all the snow fed rivers start from “R” yet there is a junction that we call TEESTA , this is the point where River Ranu meets Rangeet, and Questions –TEE-SATA if literally translated means When did you come? yet all the names of the rivers starts from R?
landscapes will be a huge list but I’ll try my best in a short paragraph , lets us climb up from the rivers . Why the Names??? Eg. Mully – in lepcha it is ‘Mutly’ which means earthquake belt area , Mongpong- Mong- medicine and Pong – place where we assemble or gather , Sanada- Sana means Bear ,Da- means sleeping, Singritam particular species of trees found out there ,Dello –Da means pond Loo means hillock , AlGARA –Al means new GRI means fortress , PEDONG—PAY means grass DONG means to search , LAYBONG – ALY BONG shaped like a tongue , POKRABONG –means bamboos have been cut, SINGAMAREE – SANG means wood MAA means to hide LEE means house. TAKVAR_ Prikvar means wasp. DARUMDIN – DA means lake RAM means destroy DEM rebuilt , MIRIK –ME means fire RIK means caught , now just above Mirik is THORBOO tea estate which means to run away from the fire , SYOK tea estate the people rested out there and took out the lice . SITRABONG is SADAR means Lightening and light out of fire i.e. when the Britishers arrived and made electricity the people saw it as fire from the other side , the natives were made Night guards and they made a hut to rest that is DALI….SILLIGURI means string the bow, SEVOK jungle has been cut down then comes the history of ZOULASI now Jalpaiguri Where they saw it as flat land of paddy cultivation and how the princess from the plains taught us to plant paddy . Sangsay, Suruk, Pringtam , Tashiding, Phosur, Kakeybong, , , Gidawlling, each has a meaning that is useful to survive in the hills and hillocks of these ranges. All this is because the pivot of the lepcha religion is based on nature and it is according to the nature the names have been given. Sometimes people say that Kalimpong and Darjeeling is a Tibetan given name , but as far as I know it literally translates into KA- Kayu means we LEM means gather and PONG means again place ,to my surprise if the town Kalimpong was a Tibetan name then why didn’t they name the villages too , as far as I know Kalompong is the spot up there in the Gulf ground of the army base and the previous name is Damsanglyang on of the last kings fort is till up there in Algara and in Gurubathan adjacent to the Doars plains the Palace is called Dalimgri , same goes with the name Darjeeling , RUMDARJU literally means ADODE OF GOD and LYANG means land in lepcha so the same argument if it was a name of Tibetan origin they why dident they name the villages such as Laybong etc..same goes to other places inside Sikkim, this land we call Rengyong lyang in Lepcha , and in southern part of Bhutan this land we call “Prolyang” and in western Nepal we call Payu lyang.
The Holy books used by the natives called the “Namthers” deciphers most of it as it contains religion, history, medicine, geographical location and soothsaying . Now sometimes it is very hard for a native to talk about these things because these books have history along with the beginning of the Indian history, now if you see Indian history starts with the advent of Alexander the Great, where Chandra Gupta Moria resisted the invasions, yet again there is a mention of the the lepcha king Phorthak Panu who sent forces to help Chandragupta Moria ,Chandra Gupta is mentioned as Chandragop in the books, things like that the The lepcha king Tarvu panu who had his capital in Kursong in the 16th century when Renzyong boundry now Sikkim was being carved out the contampery of Kazir Khan etc. these are a whole lot and the names of these places were before birth of Christ. That is the reason most people do not understand the exact meaning if the names of the places. The Namthars tells us the reason for each and everything of how the nature is going to react as the original Namthar is believed to have come a particular gauge inside the mountain of now Dzongu in North Sikkim, and to my utter surprise the hill is still there and the books and letters are carved out in the mountain the location is in such a place the it is impossible for any human being to go out there and carve it.
Now in this 21st century we are taken up I guess with our new culture and life style , some of my relatives are Nepali brothers and sisters , some are Tibeten origin ,some are from the plainsmen,we learnt a lot of new religion the philosophy, first with the arrival of Highlanders from the north our Bhutia Brothers and sisters started with Buddhism, Down with the plains brothers and sisters and with our nepali brothers and sisters Hindu , and later with the arrival of the Englishmen we learnt Christanity, some have also learnt the religion of Muslim. It is very beautiful to learn of all new cultures that our grand parents had never got a chance. we got a chance to be educated, ways of life more better and a whole lot of things, new prospects and new dreams in their eyes when I see my children, that which we had never imagined when we loitered around the ravines, still a huge number of the natives are in the 18 th century condition in the villages in and around Sikkim, Darjeeling, Kalimpong, Nepal Illam area, southern Bhutan, hunting , Drinking Chee , and cultivating with the outdated instruments .
It was when I was at the age of 30 the movement of Gorkhaland came out , we all were excited then a Boundary among ourselves for the Bhota Lapcha Nepali that was the slogan, nights in the forest with outdated guns , knives ,Banphook, Khukeries etc. I remember THE C R P F was the main enemy the , HONDA the dreaded Policeman
Curfews, 40 days strike , Children happy there was always Holidays with strikes , Heads hanging on the streets ,gangs , muscle power, CPIM the enemies to be killed later the Gorkha Volunteering Commandoes etc………. a whole lot of tales to be told. In the mist of it oneday I got a chance for free to visit the capital City , and then I came to realize thousand and one things , it was like the eagles view, the waste of life , nonsense of the politicians , and misleading of our simple people from the Hills be it of any community ,Whether Nepali ,Bhutia or lepcha, came to realize that such agitations occur everyday in the vast country India, with our population altogether hardly produces two Member of Parliament, nothing was heard as India can sustain with out the revenue of Darjeeling in fact it is a burden , Here I was from the remote village of Darjeeling and when I grew up I learnt to speak Nepali as I had to be one within the others, and there I came to realize that I had to fit inside The chinkis among the northeastern, what a blunder when the other communities were rising up with Lawers ,Docters, MBAs , Computer engineering chasing the career , I was busy with the guns ,Knives and khukuries, their things are being heard as they have contacts and they are educated and asking for relevant things in a relevant manner, I came to see that their leaders are educated , and paused a moment and compared to my leaders , ……….. as time passed by I met many of my friends , a few that was left after hangover of the so called ‘ANDOLAN’ most had no future due to lack of education along with them their family, not to forget the pains of each one who lost their dear ones , Yet again life rolled on with the some trust was gained with the only source of income of the Mountain The Tourism and the schools and Collages ,it was so exciting to see the youths were catching up with the main stream of education ,sports, computers , earning money and sending back home and some amount of administration and proper channeling and bargaining with the Govt in our own way , without the public being disturbed, even though we were being denied the basic democratic right i.e. The right to vote. It had just been a years or so when I breathed peacefully and said to myself, Thank God the politicians are not using the life of the youths for their spinster designs. But to my utter disappointment it has started again right in front of my eyes, The same old story STRIKES BLOCKING THE ROAD and fighting among ourselves , and telling the world that Darjeeling is a land of rowdies, and no tourist are to visit out here , it is unsafe for the Children to be admitted in the hills etc… For Goodness WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR AND FOM WHOM? FOR WHAT? AND WHO IS ASKING? AND SHALL WE FOLLOW THE SAME PATH WHERE WE HAD STUMBLED ONCE BEFORE? WHAT IS THE SLOGAN THAT THE NATIVES ARE SUPPOSED TO USE?
Upendra said
O Broda tried posting a comment in that Jai Prithivi Narayan Shah article.. khai post nai bhayena..
Hope U are doing fine and Congrats for everything
norbu t said
dear barun bhai
these 2 articles appeared on the pioneer delhi. the first as an editorial and the second as a lengthy article, which is a +tive sign as the policy makers of the country r based in delhi and they will and should get sensitized regarding the explosive ‘powder keg’ situation in darj.(secret intel reports to hm r lost in the dusty files of north block and can never create awareness/public opinion) the gjm should also focus on regularly feeding the capital media ( this is where enlightened souls like u can play an important part)since people who matter are basically holed up in delhi and till a few days back were totally unaware on the gorkhaland issue post prashant episode under the gjm.
p.s. keep up the great work u r doing :-
Ghising’s folly
The Pioneer Edit Desk
It is CPI(M)’s mistake, too
It is unfortunate that the situation in Darjeeling continues to remain tense despite a week having passed since the Gorkha Janamukti Morcha-sponsored indefinite blockade began last Sunday. The GJM has paralysed the hills — halting also the heritage toy train — by intensifying its movement for a separate Gorkha State. Chief among its demands is the dismissal of Mr Subash Ghising from the post of ‘Caretaker Administrator’ of the Gorkha Hill Council. Mr Ghising has been clinging to this job despite his tenure having expired in 2005, with no election having been held since then. Such is the unpopularity of Mr Ghising in the hills of West Bengal now that he has been forced to seek shelter in Kolkata. While the Union Government seems to find itself in the role of a helpless spectator as events unfold, the Marxist Government in West Bengal, having co-opted and corrupted Mr Ghising, is stumped. Perhaps the only notable thing that has happened during the interregnum is CPI(M) veteran Jyoti Basu’s candid observation that Mr Ghising’s hold in the hills is tenuous as the GNLF chief has become weak with his own partymen going against him. This may have nudged a vacillating Left Front Government to state that Mr Ghising’s term would not be extended after it expires on March 24. This has, however, not prevented the Left allies of the UPA Government from putting pressure on it to push through the controversial Bill that would grant Sixth Schedule status to the Gorkha Hill Council. In doing so, the Left may be attempting to derail the Gorkhaland demand but is actually supporting the lost cause of Mr Ghising, who has made a mess of the Gorkha Hill Council since its inception.
The people of Darjeeling are a house divided. Having struggled for basic amenities for years, and given the serious charges of corruption against Mr Ghising, the elevation in status of the Gorkha Hill Council makes little sense to them, though it would give more funds and authority to Darjeeling. At the same time, there is no reason why Gorkhas should be accorded the status of tribals, which they are not by any stretch of the imagination. The indigenous tribals of the region — for instance, the Bhotias, Lepchas and Sherpas — constitute a minority of the population; understandably, they are indifferent to the demands of either Mr Ghising or those of his detractors. In the mid-1980s, Mr Ghising led a violent agitation for a separate Gorkhaland; finally he settled for a Hill Council on the condition that he would preside over it in perpetuity. That’s not how democracy works. But who is to tell the Marxists so? By letting Mr Ghising have his way, the CPI(M) has created the ground for a fresh round of violence. This time, it could be far worse. Let us make no mistake: The Maoists in Nepal are trying to revive their putsch for ‘Greater Nepal’.
Disquiet in Darjeeling
Shikha Mukerjee
Subash Ghising manipulated the CPI(M) and the Centre to perpetuate his corrupt rule in the hills of West Bengal. The Gorkhas have now turned against him and Ghising has had to seek shelter in Kolkata. Meanwhile, the CPI(M) persists with its myopic politics; the Centre, as always, is clueless
Charismatic, even though he is not currently very popular, Mr Subash Ghising, former chairman of the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council and now ‘Caretaker Administrator’, is a squatter guilty of trespass. To continue two years after his elected term in office ended in 2005 makes him an illegal tenant of the autonomous area that constitutes the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council, albeit one who has the backing of powerful patrons, namely the West Bengal Government and the Government of India.
By a ruse, to which New Delhi and Kolkata are willing accomplices, Mr Ghising continues in power in Darjeeling and will do so till such time as the 107th Constitution Amendment Bill is passed. The Bill seeks to convert the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council into an autonomous ‘tribal’ territory — in itself an anomaly — on the lines of the Bodo Territorial Council, Mr Ghising will remain the anointed caretaker, instead of elected leader.
If these were merely aberrant acts of an ordinary citizen the deviations could be explained as an irregularity. Unfortunately, with the Centre and the State Government winking at his delinquencies, Mr Ghising has been transformed into an extraordinarily dextrous politician capable of capturing power and holding on to it with grim determination. In the guise of being a bulwark against disorder, Mr Ghising has turned his own acts of disruption into a potent weapon to terrorise as a result of which the Centre and the State Government prefer to comply with his deeds instead of deposing him.
Faced with an election in 2005, Mr Ghising declared that he would not allow the constitutional process to be initiated. In other words, he did not want an election which he clearly doubted he could win with the sort of overwhelming majority to which he had grown accustomed since 1988. To bolster his sagging popularity, Mr Ghising threatened to revert to his politics of destabilisation, that is, revive the demand for a separate Gorkhaland to be carved out of West Bengal, occupying the three hill sub-divisions of Darjeeling, Kurseong and Kalimpong.
To strike fear in the hearts of both New Delhi and Kolkata, Mr Ghising deployed the idea of ‘right to self-determination’ of the Gorkha people. Given India’s enormous sensitivity to any demand for self-determination and the Maoist-inspired turmoil in Nepal, Mr Ghising was able to bring the Centre and the State Government to their knees.
In a perfectly played game of double jeopardy, Mr Ghising compelled authority to accept his offer on the terms he found convenient. He demanded the inclusion of Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council in the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution, thereby transforming the foothills of the majestic Himalayas into tribal land. In defiance of sociology and logic, Mr Ghising twisted both the Centre and West Bengal’s arms and obtained tacit recognition for his domain as a sort of separate territorial space with a sort of separate population. Since even Mr Ghising could not describe the majority of Gorkhas as tribals, he maintained that they had a distinct identity, culture and language that must be given respect and recognition by the Constitution. The threat was clear, if India did not play ball with him, he would raise the issue of ’self-determination’, threaten to approach the UN, wave the ‘Greater Nepal’ flag and re-interpret colonial history to suit his own purposes.
It is debatable whether under the original arrangements in the Constitution, Darjeeling’s hill sub-divisions qualify for separate territorial council status on the lines of the Bodo Territorial Council in Assam. It would appear that appeasement politics, which worked to set up the Bodo Territorial Council by somewhat stretching the idea of autonomous are as provided for by the Constitution, is being stretched out of shape to accommodate Mr Ghising’s demand.
Since the possibility of the 107th amendment being passed and implemented by March 24, when the Caretaker Administrator’s term expires, is remote, Mr Ghising is all set to continue to enjoy power and privilege without the benefit of a legitimising election. Having sat it out for two years, it is unsurprising that the suspension of usual political activity in the Darjeeling area has resurfaced in a virulent version of Mr Ghising’s original demand of 1986 — for a separate state of Gorkhaland — led by a brand new group, Gorkha Janamukti Morcha, headed by Mr Bimal Gurung, once upon a time a henchman of Mr Ghising.
While the violence that marked the 1986 Gorkha National Liberation Front movement, of which Mr Ghising was the leader, is missing in 2008, and the unity among the people of Nepalese origin in 1986 is certainly not there today, the political turbulence in Darjeeling is an indication that some people are frustrated, impatient and willing to seize any advantage to revive the political process in that troubled area.
Mr Ghising does not like any other political actors other than himself and his party, the GNLF. His style since 1988 has been to try and subvert the competitive electoral process and convert it into a sort of faux democratic endorsement of his unquestioned supremacy in the area he considers his domain.
Never before has Mr Ghising been forced to flee to the foothills, seek refuge in Kolkata and demand the intervention of the West Bengal Government to maintain law and order on his turf. By doing so, he has revealed the erosion of his popularity. For a man with an oversized ego, the humiliation of being forced to turn back because the GJM barred his entry to Darjeeling is a measure of how he has morphed into a paper tiger.
The Gorkha Janamukti Morcha is an opportunistic organisation; it is the newest mushroom to have sprouted in the extraordinary political environment of Darjeeling. But there have been other movements and other agitations that have challenged Mr Ghising’s supremacy. Given his preference for occupying and exercising power as the ‘unanimous choice’ of the Gorkha people, the challengers to Mr Ghising, however splintered they may be, raise a huge question mark about the Caretaker Administrator’s position, popularity and politics.
For starters, Mr Ghising’s politics has never been democratic, though he is adept at using the idea to suit his own ends. There is no democracy within the GNLF; leaders are chosen and discarded by Mr Ghising, who insists that his style of functioning ensures ‘discipline’ within the party. There is a Central Committee of the GNLF and it is a selected body. A senior leader of GNLF, when asked as to how many persons were in the Central Committee, sounded vague: “Perhaps 25 or may be 30.”
In 1988, when Mr Ghising was required, under the terms of the original ‘Peace Accord’ for Darjeeling, to participate in elections, he was insistent that his councillors to DGHC had to be elected “unanimously” — in other words, appointed by him. It has been the same for the last 20 years. Mr Ghising has used the compulsions of both the CPI(M) and the Congress to bargain, successfully, over the “unanimous” idea. It has been his contention that political parties that operate primarily in the plains have no legitimacy in the hills. The plains parties have, by and large, accepted the division of spoils, leaving the council to Mr Ghising and negotiating over MLAs and MPs.
However much Ghising may want things to remain frozen in the pattern he established in 1988, the emergence of GJMM, before that the Communist Revolutionary Party (Marxist) led by former CPI(M) leader RB Rai, and the revival of the Gorkha League, are all indicators that the GNLF is not the only representative of Gorkha aspirations.
The aspirations are not easy to understand; it is often a matter of identity and often a matter of entitlement. Given Mr Ghising’s skills, he plays it both ways and so keeps the population in thrall. A separate State of Gorkhaland is the extreme in terms of aspirations, whereas the territorial council in terms of the 107th amendment is one step forward from the 1988 arrangement.
Why the “Gorkhas” need a separate State is not certain, because Mr Ghising raises the demand and then drops it. Who the Gorkhas are is also uncertain, though by Mr Ghising’s definition they are people of Nepalese origin. In terms of caste, the Gorkhas span the entire spectrum. Tribals in Darjeeling constitute less than 33 per cent of the population. In another twist to this tale, the original tribals of the Darjeeling hill sub-divisions, the Bhotias and Lepchas, constitute a diminishing minority.
By using a manufactured identity — Gorkha — to create his constituency, Mr Ghising has been hugely successful. Playing on a history of fears about the terrain he occupies, given its proximity to China and Bangladesh, Mr Ghising has inventively used his demands to carve out space for himself. Unfortunately, the space is now being encroached upon by other political actors who, like Mr Ghising, appear to be extraordinarily well connected
Deo said
Hi Bro,
I m a Gurkha from Siliguri, now working in Delhi.I wanted to disscuss some serious matters and ideas to add on the strength we have now.I wan you to reply me back in my email address at deo2oed@yahoo.com from ur id(need to avoide things being public, then it’ll be great for me to share my ideas and get ur suggestions to carry it forward.also send me ur view about the situation going on now. what do u think is correct?
Upendra said
Hey Barun we need more pictures and if possible videos from the ground so that we can spread it around the world.. can U do something about it??
barunroy said
Dear Upendra, I am trying my best. Should come up with what you have requested. Thanks
Yusuf Simick said
Thank you Barun for the good work you did by providing information of entire area during the time of crisis.
George said
Dear Sir,
What can you tell me of the small village of Daragaon where the Red Star Academy School is and a medical clinic to help the locals with their health and education?
Respectfully,
George
kurseong_ko_keta said
http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/supporttibet
barunroy said
Dear Mr. George,
I am extremely sorry that I could not reply to you earlier. I have been sick for a while. When you are talking about Daragaon, I wonder whether it is the village situated at Toong Soong Darjeeling. However, there are no Red Star Academy there. Village by the name Daragaon could b espread across the Hills. Could you please be more specific about your request? I could visit the place and gather all the information that you may require.
regs
John Roberts said
Barun,
You’re the only one who comes-up for the ‘Pines Hotel’ in Darjeeling. This was owned by a relative – Helen Keelan – who died in 1945 – is it still there? How do I contact them? Any Keelans left in Darjeeling? They were Church of Scotland. Many Thanks
John
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Roberts,
Greetings! You are most welcome with the inquiry. Pines Hotel was situated near Ghoom, Jorebungalow Darjeeling. I will visit the place today or perhaps tomorrow personally and carry out your inquires with the concerned people. You can expect to have something by day after tomorrow. I don’t think there are any Keelans left in Darjeeling, but let me find out first. And yes, there is still the Church of Scotland.
Regs
Barun
Upendra said
Dear Barun.. If possible can U kindly post the following link in your website??
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/b4tav09o/
Regards,
Upendra
hemant said
Dear Barun i have picture of member of the Constitution Drafting commitee so i wanted to know is there any way i can upload the picture
Yam K Shrestha said
Dear Barun Bhai,
I’m not able to open Himalaya Darpan since 6th April. The home page still shows the Himalaya Darpan of 5th April. Is there any problem?
rgds
Yam
rim said
Barun ssems to be unreachable for some days now and his blog is also not updated since 5th……..
nepalidai said
Barun bro,
Where are you? Your blog has not been updated for days now, hope everything is fine with you.
Rabden Rongkup said
Direct intervention to stop all mega hydroelectric power dams construction projects in Dzongu, in North Sikkim, India (defined as protected and preserved solely for the
indigenous primitive Lepcha Scheduled tribe of India). The government is forcibly building 26 dams in Sikkim out of which 7 inside the holy land Dzongu
Expectedly more than 500 lepchas from Darjeeling District , Illam Western Nepal , Southern Bhutan and Sikkim are starting to walk up for pilgrimage to Dzongu, North Sikkim, India
Dzongu region also comprises the restrictive Kanchenjanga National Park, which is in the process of being considered as a ‘World Heritage Park’ within 2009, besides being a Kanchenjanga Biosphere Reserve
Schedules as follows :
14/04/2008——- Prayer in Teesta ,Bene at 10am that falls in Darjeeling district and walk up to Ramphu that is Sikkim border by 2pm, and then to Singtam by 6pm that covers roughly 30 Km in the first day
15/04/08———– Singtam to Gangtok that is the Capital of Sikkim to meet the people in hunger strike which will reach 300day of hungerstrike on the 15/04/08.
16/04/08———– Gangtok to Penlong via Kavi which is a historical place of blood treaty between the Lepchas and the Bhutias .
17/04/08 ———– Reach Lower Dzongu and then enter inside the hills and hillocks for the offering of our prayers led by Mun and Bongthing (priest and priestess)
DZONGU, North Sikkim, a protected Reserved Land, where more than 6000 Lepchas live, is sacred and holy land to the Lepchas all over the world. The first Lepcha man, ‘Fudongthing and Nuzongnyoo’, the first Lepcha woman, were created by the “Itbu Debu Rum”, the Creator in Lepcha and settled them down in Dzongu at the base of Kingchoomzaongboo i.e. Mount Kanchenjanga. Their off springs are the present day Lepchas.
The Lepcha myths on slaying of Laso Mung Pano, the Devil, by Tamsangthing at Tukvyer Partam; the origin of Lepcha Mun, Priestess, Nyolik-Nysong, Boongthing, male Lepcha Priest, Azaor Boongthing; the Lepcha clans Lepcha New Year, Lepcha marriage, each Lepcha clan’s, “Chu”, mountain, “Da”, lake, and “Lep”, the door to “Poomju”, after death are to be found in Dzongu. All the Lepchas living in Sikkim, Darjeeling District of West Bengal, Illam, Nepal, and Bhutan and elsewhere in the world look up to Mount Kanchanjanga and Dzongu as their sacred and holy land. It immensely pains when they see and observe their holy and sacred land, Dzongu, being polluted, defiled and dishonoured
Past history relates, the Lepcha tribe then a nation called NEY-MAYELYANG (the land of the hidden paradise) , inhabited and ruled practically the whole of the Sikkim Himalayas with boundaries extending to even parts of western Bhutan in the east, parts of Nepal in the west up to the plains of Jalpaiguri and Nepal in the south and even Chumbi valley in Tibet. Considering this historical antecedent, the present status of the Lepcha indigenous tribe has been marginalized all over the Darjeeling Sikkim Himalayas . Considering , the remaining Lepcha lands are under due threat of being totally overtaken, wherein Dzongu remains the last abode and historical property of the Lepchas. All aspects of ‘Lepchas the Vanishing Tribe’ is expressed in the much researched book of the same name by the late Arthur Foning, who happened to base a majority of his research project in Dzongu itself, which presently is under threat of total ecological disaster if the proposed mega hydroelectric dam projects are implemented.
Dzongu has always occupied a protected area status specific to Lepchas to preserve the ancient history, culture tradition and ancient cult of “MUN”, being a soothsayer and an oracle of trible communities practiced till date . Since the days of Chogyal ,(Kings of Sikkim) succeeded by following democratic governments entry to Dzongu region by the outsiders are resticted by Law under article 371F. Also corollary to the restriction of entry by non Lepchas purchase of Land of Dzongu Lepchas are more restrictive.
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To support the protected status Dzongu was declared a protected area since the days of the Chogyal (Monarchy) and in 30th August1956. The above was further strengthened by further amendment by the Govt. of Sikkim, Home Dept, Notification No. 3069/ O.S. by which even entry, settlement or occupation by any outsider (non-indigenous) is a criminal offence. This laws were incorporated inside Article 371F in the mutual agreement between the Govt. of Sikkim and Govt. of India within the framework and constitution of India entirely for providing safeguard to the tradition, culture, and religion .
Whereas, the government fails to address the grievances in real terms. The acceptance of Dzongu as the last sacred, reserved land for the Lepchas, not withstanding the other existing conditions of a government protected area, national sanctuary, bio-spheric reserve, biodiversity gene pool area and the only pure and pristine Lepcha tribal, cultural region in the world.
Anita Hagelin said
Dear Barun,
Very nice that you are back with your most interesting articles. Sad though that it seemes to be a hard time for the people of Darjeeling Hills in the near future. Can not imagine how it could be so peaceful during our twelve days stay in the beautiful and most amazing region up there in late March. We will always remember and inspire others to know more and to visit Darjeeling Hills and Sikkim. Hopefully we will be able to come back in some years as well
to see more and to meet all our new lovely friends.
Best regards,
Anita
barunroy said
Dear Friends,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you very much for your concern. I have had to go through a lot of harassment in this few days due to my work, however, I think that I am now certainly on the right path. I especially sorry to Anita for not being there with you when you arrived in Darjeeling from Sweden. I hope that we could meet someday and that I could take you around the Hills and the Terai. Yes, situation is not that good. Things have already started boiling down to racial clashes in the Terai and the Hills Plains border which is a matter of great concern. I have gathered a couple of reports and news stories which you should find both eye opening and disturbing. In fact, I was so concerned about taking into what was happening at grassroot level throughout the hills and dooars terai that I took a Leave of Absence from all my works. The coming days and months will be crucial for all of us scribes. I hope and pray for your support.
Regs
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Hemant,
You could send me the pic at my email address: barunroydarj@gmail.com. Please offer all details and your full name so that I could mention you as the contributor. You could attach the pic to the mail.
Deepest regards and best wishes
Gorkhey Jeep said
Is it true that you and your family are being harrased? I have even been told that you have been asked to shut down Beacon Online, so much so that you will be resigning from the post of the Editor of Darjeeling Times, monthly magazine? Is there anything that we can do for you?
Neha said
dear Barun,
I am really worried. Is what Gorkhey jeep saying true? do take care of yourself. I know you too well to ask you to stop what you are doing but please be careful. I don’t know about politics in Darjeeling and everything else that you talk about in this blog, but apart from just saying ‘great work’ people might not come to your rescue when you need their help. Remember ‘Mohammad Sabir Case’ in Chennai when you were the sub-editor of Mylapore Times. Do call me, if you still have my number.
Am worried about you!
Neha
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Mr.Barun,
First of all I would like to thank you very much for your contribution towards Gorkha Community and himalaya Darpan which is available through Internet.
Mr.Barun I found in your website you have given right to post comment to anyone which is very good option,by means of this anyone can express their feeling.
Mr.Barun I found that so many people have posted their comment but they have not typed the word “Gorkha” properly many of them used as “Gurkha”Which is absolutely wrong.There are so many Tragedy related to our cast so by means of your Paper it is very easy to convince the People of Dist:Darjeeling in fact Gorkhaland.
Kindly can you publish this my small article after translating into Nepali.Those who are writing “Gurkha”.I am sending personel e mail or through your website that “Gurkha ” is Wrong and “Gorkhs” is Correct spelling.Now I think it is very difficult to send individual e-mails or comments.
So your Newspaper is the best option.Please do the needfull.
(We the people of Darjeeling still saying that we are Nepali,Gorkha & Gurkha
we can understand the meaning is same but it is very difficult to convince other people,so from today onwards we will say we are “Gorkha”,we will not say we are Nepali or Gurkha,This will help us to avoid confusion.
We will say we are Gorkha and our demand is for Gorkhaland.
Also we must be familiar with the Spelling of “Gorkha”.
All Should say we are Gorkha.Today we can see that all the Gorkhas are together in the form of GJMM and fighting for Gorkhaland.
No comment about our language Neplai and etc.Initial stage is we are Gorkha.The spelling of “Gorkha” is in Correct form and “Gurkha is in Wrong form.Comments are welcome
Ichamani Chettri
Deira,Dubai
U.A.E
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Mr.Barun,
I wrote one letter to you on 13/04/2008 but till now you didnt give me any response.You have not seen my e-mail or you have ignore it.Waiting for your quick and positive response
Ichamani Chettri
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Chettri,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I have replied to your letter and your appeal has been published.
Best regards
Barun
Jyoti Thapa Mani said
I found the study of names very interesting here. Can anyone elaborate on the name Jorthang, named after one Jahar Singh Thapa who apprently killed a big python with his bare hands.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Thapa,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I really can’t seem to find the precedent for your above mentioned folklore. However, I am putting in a section on names from my book – Fallen Cicada which is fascinating.
regs
Ms Jyoti Thapa Mani said
Barun
You have concluded I am a male like Jyoti Basu. Eeeks! I am a Ms. Thapa is my maiden surname and Mani is my married surname. Regards,
barunroy said
Dear Mrs. Thapa,
I am extremely sorry for the error. In fact, we have a prominent contributor and a respected commentator by the same name, and I had for the first time interacting with him addressed him as Miss and ended up in a soup – talk about Comedy of Errors. I was guilty in both accounts.
Please forgive me.
Best Regards
sameer said
hi Corinne, hey the old mans a lunatic. he talked about spies,ISI pakistan,gods and goddess,tantriks,godmen and some women and all the things only a lunatic is capable of doing so.and lastly you must have heard “Brain Damage” by Pink Floyd where they say -The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me till Im sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
Theres someone in my head but its not me.
this song was written for people like Mr Subash Ghising
sameer
Ichamani Chettri said
Dear Barun,
This is to inform you that I am working in Dubai and my Account is in India with Citibank.Therfore to make a online draft,I need your mobile No. or Office No.
This time I made a draft and sent to your mentioned address but for future transactions I need your Contact No.
When you recieve my draft then please let me know by means of sending me e-mail
Thanking you very much
Ichamani Chettri
Dubai
hemant said
Dear Barun, i came to know that kalimpong once belong to sikkim before it was sized by Bhutan. Do you have any knowledge/ article regarding this.
Regards
Rajesh Pradhan said
Hello Barun bhai……is your phone out of order?
Bhodrolok said
Barun, looks like your blog has become a platform to DISPLAY ALL THE HOGWASH THAT THE NARROW MINDED LOT IN A COMMUNITY ARE CAPABLE OF.PLEASE ADOPT SOME STRINGENT MEASURES IN ORDER TO GET RID OF SUCH ILLEGITIMATE MINDS RUINING THE VERY PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG AS AN ONLINE TO LOGICALLY DEBATE ON SOME GENUINE ISSUES WITH SOME ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE, NOT JUST HEARSAY PICKED UP BY THESE NARROW MINDED PEOPLE FROM THE NARROW LANES THEY COME FROM WITH THEIR SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE, MOST OF WHICH IS BASED ON IGNORANCE.THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE, INSPIRED BY LEADERS WHO WILL COMMENT ON THE MORALITY AND IMMORALITY EVERYTHING FROM MALLIKA SHERAWATS SKIRT TO 6 WOMEN CHEER LEADING ON A FIELD, WHILE THE NATION IS IN THE THROES OF INFLATION OR PEOPLE INJURED IN AN ACCIDENT ARE DENIED ADMISSION IN A HOSPITAL LIKE SSKM.GET SOME FACTS YOU BRAINWASHED LOT.LEARN TO SEE YOUR OWN CORRUPTED AND UNEQUAL SOCIETY BEFORE COMMENTING ON SOMEONE ELSES.
prashanti chettri said
hi barun . this id the first time i read your blog and it is very impressive . you have mentioned about this ngo in kurseong called help can you tell me where it is . i tried locating it but could not find it.thank you very much.
prashanti
Anonymous said
Hey!.. Why not have your own domain?
Vivek Rai said
Hi Barun Daju,
First of all I’d like to pay my huge respect and honour for the work that you are doing. We are highly inspired by your novel “fallen cicada”. Barun Daju i need some help from, i need some materials on 86′ 88′ agitation, which inclues interal confliction on the two rival parties CPM and GNLF and the internal affairs, If you have some newspaper and magazine articles and photos as well.. as i am working on a script based on the agitation 86′ 88′, i have outlined the whole plot but i dont have some facts and figures which would complete my script. once i’ll get through with script i’ll send you a copy of it.
Thanking you,
vivek rai
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Vivek,
Thank you for very much for your kind words. I do have loads of info on the 86′Gorkhaland Agitation including the Police Records, GNLF pamphlets, newspapers clippings, info et al. But that encompasses almost a small library. It would be most helpful for me if you could be a little bit precise on your need for information. If you are in Darjeeling or live nearby perhaps you could you come visit me and I could open up everything to you. I could even arrange for interviews with prominent personalities and you could further get more info and data from there. However, if that is not possible, i would still like to help. If you can be more precise I can send whatever you need. Further, if you can send me the script (attach it through email) i can help on the same and perhaps help you on that front too.
Thanking you,
With best wishes and regards,
Barun
snoopy said
hello barun da…could u tell me about the revolutionary group UGRA that was formed in kalimpong(if im not wrong)…what has happened to this group ?..is it defunct?? could you post me some references?
Could you also throw some light on the gorkha youth wing headed by ajoy edwards…is it still functioning..what is ajoy edwards take on the present situation -especially on GJMM??
what is with GNLF(C) these days…any news that you know of??
and lastly..according to you,what differences are there between GJMM and ABGL..differences in terms of ideology/politics and so on…
any referrences or links would be helpful..
thank you
snoopy
samira ahmed said
Mr.Roy.i am a teacher.i heard about the blue diamond boarding school.kurseong.will it be possible for me to offer my services here.
hoping to get guidance and help from you.
thanks
Samira
Raja Basu said
Hi Barun,
Today I just stumbled upon your blog, and was immediately floored by the same. It is really a beautiful blog.
Though I grew up in Calcutta and now settled in New Delhi, my ancestral place (from both sides) is Jalpaiguri, and my relatives are spread across various places of North Bengal. So it is really nice to see that a person from North Bengal has launched such a successful blog. Congrats! Btw, I also have a blog (rajabasu.blogspot.com), and you are cordially invited to visit the same.
Finally, can you somehow get the contact details of Mr Dilip Singh, the gentleman who other day showed the guts to raise his voice against what he perceived as wrong?
Regards
Raja Basu
New Delhi
barunroy said
Dear Ms. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Thank you for your comment on Beacon Online and your interest on Blue Diamond Boarding School, Kurseong. It can be arranged for you to volunteer at Blue Diamond Boarding School or other such schools in the hill. Please do let me know as to what you really aspire to do.
With best wishes and regards,
yours faithfully,
Barun Roy
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Basu,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you for your kind words. As per Mr. Dilip Singh’s number, I will try to find it and give it to you.
Regs
B.S.Rai said
Hi Mr.Barun,
I would like to thank you for your contribution and Himalaya Darpan which is available through Internet.
B.S Rai
Dorjee Kameng said
Dear Sir,
Congratulations for this informative site which has highlighted almost all major issues concerning the ‘Gorkhaland” movement, with violence aside I wish things are sorted out peacefully and we can see the creation of Gorkhaland state as soon as possible.
Its quite clear that the CPI(M) Govt in West Bengal would not want to see a Gorkhaland simply because they want to use their arrogance to dominate and suppress the hill people as they have been doing since the last decades.
On the other hand they would not want to lose their “hill station” where they can go anytime and use their highhandedness as “tourists”. They are arguing that once Bengal was partitioned ( 1947 the creation of East Pakistan ) it had disastrous consequences and hence another “partition” should not be encouraged.
Owing to their myopic and short sighted attitude they fail to understand the “contrast” between the partition of Bengal in 1947 ( which was done simply to appease the Muslims,since they had created a Jehadi havoc during the independence period ) and the movement for Gorkhaland which is simply a demand within the Indian constitution!
Things are clear that the CPI(M) govt in West Bengal is very insecure, events like Nandigram and now Gorkhaland makes them wonder whats next ( Most probably I think the movement for a separate Cooch Behar state will intensify in the coming years,this will completely cut West Bengal from India’s North East making it the perfect “mainland” state! )
Nonetheless, The present Gorkhaland movement must continue without interruption and yield productive results paving way for a seprate state within the Indian constitution.
Best Regards
Dorjee
prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Roy,
Like everyone else, I would like to begin by thanking you for this platform.
I want to bring something to the forum that has been on my mind for a while when i think of Sikkim – what do you think the Nepali speaking people of Sikkim should be called? They have always been referred to as Nepali along with Bhutias and Lepchas. Its has been a very sensitive subject on this forum and fellow contributors and bloggers have made it very clear that Nepali is the language, Nepalese are citizens of Nepal and Gorkhas are the Nepali speaking folk in India. Would you then, according to this definition, call all the Nepali speaking population of Sikkim – Gorkha’s? So there would be Bhutia, Lepcha and Gorkha in SIkkim?Does anyone is Sikkim share this opinion or are opposed to this? Can you direct the Nepali speaking people of Sikkim to call themselves Gorkha’s?
I find it strange that SIkkim being so close to Darjeeling physically, culturally and historically seems to distant in a time like this. Also on this forum, there is hardly any mention of SIkkim and its role in the movement. I believe that a peaceful coexistence is possible and also tremendous support can be gained from Sikkim – please remember that Sikkim has a lot to do with Prashant Tamang winning the Indian Idol and it played a very active part then… it has been the genesis of the resurrection of the Gorkhaland movement.
I would like to also ask what would Darjeeling and the Gorkhaland movement gain by inconveniencing the people of Sikkim. It seems a little bit like bullying. Sikkim is helpless being landlocked and the GJMM does not seem to care that Sikkim – by default becomes affected by the strike. It would be quite another issue if the leaders of GJMM would have had a dialogue and some understanding and clarity as to what Sikkim’s role in the movement would be.
I was wondering if there was anyone who would like to comment on the points I have raised.
Thank you,
Regards,
Prashant Pradhan
YK Shrestha said
Dear Prashant,
I understand that Sikkim becomes the fall guy indirectly everytime the Darjeeling Hills calls for the bandh. It is not bullying but just unfortunate. If Siliguri is called bandh, then Darjeeling Hills and the entire North Eastern India suffers.
As for whether the Sikkim Nepali speaking people should call them Gorkhas or not is their prerogative. In any case, I have seen/heard them calling themselves Sikkimese rather than Nepali, Bhutia or Lepcha.
True, Sikkim played a great role making Prashant Tamang an Indian Idol, but so did we people from Assam, Bhagsu and all other states where Gorkhas are in significant numbers, so much so that even Nepal’s Nepalese played a great role inspite of them being a different nation.
insomniacreturns said
Hi barun ,
greetings from bangalore..I want to reread an article posted byMr bishal rai…I dont remember topic…but well amd reasonably written by him whre he make other commentors speechless..especially “thebengali”, who himself confesses of requiring time to recover fromsilence after that post by Mr Bishal.
Regards
Arnav
Praveen said
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prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Shrestha, Thank you for your comment – I was hoping that more people would like to share their opinion on the fate of Sikkim vis a vis the struggle for Gorkhaland but, it looks like nobody really cares about Sikkim. I said it was’ bullying’, you said it was ‘unfortunate’ – and unfortunate indeed it is – and what is even more unfortunate is that it does not even matter for the people involved in the struggle. I am wondering how you can say that – unfortunate is when you have no power to change the situation – but, the people involved in the struggle CAN show some compassion and not blame it on fortune! They have the power to make a difference to Sikkim’s fate.
You say ” all of North East India suffers” in the same sentence as “Sikkim”. Have you been to Sikkim Mr. Shrestha? do you know where SIkkim is located ? It is quite preposterous that you would attempt to claim that the magnitude that sikkim suffers because of the bandh is the same as the north east. Sikkim loses anywhere from Rs.5.9 Crores to 7 Crores per DAY – what do you lose Mr. Shrestha?
I repeat – What has Sikkim done to the people fighting for Gorkhaland? when has it caused harm to them in any way – ever? so, why harm the people of Sikkim? If your actions harm someone you care about, would you not attempt to alter the course of that action? would you not direct it in such a way that such hardship is not faced by people in sikkim? I hear that there is some helpline and support groups that provide supplies to the people in darjeeling – that is so selfish? what if someone in sikkim needs to be rushed to a hospital, an emergency? there is no helpline here. Are the people just supposed to perish?
are the people of sikkim forever going to live at the mercy of the struggle for Gorkhaland – however long it lasts? Public opinion i think will show that all the good wishes and support that the people of Sikkim have for the Gorkhaland movement is running short in supply. Please someone do something before it runs out.
prashant pradhan said
In this article today -
Sikkim SOS over bandh
Posted by barunroy on June 17, 2008
Morcha leaders had made it clear yesterday that they were “using” the “Sikkim factor” to push the Centre into calling them for talks. Morcha chief Bimal Gurung had told a rally in Kalimpong subdivision that the highway would be blocked until Sikkim spoke up on Gorkhaland.
Arm twisting and bullying ? or just unfortunate?
YK Shrestha said
@ Prashant Pradhan You say ” all of North East India suffers” in the same sentence as “Sikkim”. Have you been to Sikkim Mr. Shrestha? do you know where SIkkim is located ? It is quite preposterous that you would attempt to claim that the magnitude that sikkim suffers because of the bandh is the same as the north east. Sikkim loses anywhere from Rs.5.9 Crores to 7 Crores per DAY – what do you lose Mr. Shrestha? )
Come on Prashant, I have been to Sikkim umpteen times. Are you trying my intelligence by asking where is Sikkim located?? You would do well if you ask that question to other Indians, not me. I have my friends (batchmates) like Dr. Rabin Chettri, Dr.Diwakar Pradhan , Dr. Gopal Pradhan, my saino bhauju Ms. Jemima Pradhan (Director of Sikkim Tourism)and many others there in Sikkim.
As I said Sikkim is a fall guy. Sikkim just happens to be in the wrong place. We can not do anything with Geography.Right?
You guys at least have an identity and can call yourself as Sikkimese, what about the people from Darjeeling areas? Or may be you do not want your fellow brothers to be at par with you economically etc??
Time is for you to support whatever the hardships, but you are trying to be a cry baby here.
The Wanderer said
Prashant-would agree will your take on Sikkim.This looks like a desparate attempt to involve Sikkim into the thick of things.A Sikkim which actually cares for,and looks after its citizens.And does well.
Another moot point is why are people not talking basics-like sanitation,water,better intrastructure.It would be too steep to believe that Darjeeling has been deprived all these facilities by the centre/state governments.What role have the local politicians playes,apart from asking the poor Gurkhas to shed their blood.Why is there no talk about basic,and better, living rights.
This leads to a certain sceptism-even if Gorkhaland is granted-will actuall living conditions really change!!!!!!!
prashant pradhan said
Dear Mr. Shrestha – I am not trying your intelligence – the question was a rhetorical one and I was trying to make this point that – Sikkim gets DIRECTLY affected every time there is a strike and that we lose near 7 crores per day. I was asking how you could compare that to the North East and say that the North East suffers as much as SIkkim. Please note that I am trying to highlight the magnitude of the suffering and not just suffering per se – I suffer from a toothache as well but you know that they are not comparable – We cannot compare apples to oranges.
I do not doubt that you have been to Sikkim and know many people here but, you didn’t answer my question. I am trying to say that – Sikkim is not a fall guy – it has been made to be one. It is not a question of pure geography – logistics and ordinance have a lot to do with it. In the previous post, I mentioned that the Gorkhaland movement is USING the SIkkim factor to their benefit. It looks like they want to piggy back on causing Sikkim misery – please Mr. SHrestha – surely you can understand that this amounts to bullying and the larger point that I am trying to make is that antagonizing the people of SIkkim who have supported the movement so far is not a sustainable strategy. Please look and see that there is more to it than your simplifying it to to Geography.
I love Darjeeling as much as the next person – I have family there – Darjeeling and SIkkim are intertwined. The identity of Nepali folks in Sikkim is directly linked with the people of Darjeeling. It is not fair for you to speculate that we do not want our fellow brothers to be at par – in fact, i know for a fact that they are more than at par, they are superior in several aspects so, please don’t make such allegations.
Please dont let me lose respect for you by your namecalling – it is unnecessary to use terms like crybaby. Let us discuss and debate as adults and I would appreciate it if you could confine the discussion to whats on the blog. Support can have many manifestations – and there are mays to demonstrate dissent and protest – I do not agree that calling a strike and a bandh is the way to do it.
Osim Karki said
Dear Mr. Barun
I know this Himalayan Bacon recently & to you also. I am very thankful to your tremendous work and effort in the field of journalism. The recently erruption of the Darjeeling /Siliguri is really mental & physical harrasement for the common people. Actually I am in A.P of the N.E. state and belong from the same community. I only herad and read the tense situation in papers & news and have the same feeling like others.
recently i heard that GJM is not a registered Political Party and I secrutinize also, but really they were’nt in the list. Is it possible to function such a movement or any action without being registered as society or Union or as Political Party under State Govt. or Centre. Please Clearify I confussed.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Karki,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you for you comment. Let me welcome you to the growing family of the Himalayan Beacon or popularly Beacon Online. We at Beacon Online believe in Community Journalism and your views and insights are as important as it is with the rest of the family members.
As per the registration of the Gorkha Janmukti Morcha, it really does not matter whether GJM is registered or not until it contesting an election. It is then that Registration with Election Commission matters. At present when GJM is at the helm of Gorkhaland Agitation organizing rallies and protest programmes it does not need to be registered. Any group or individual has the right to gather peacefully in India as guaranteed as a Fundamental Right by the Constitution of India. However, I do agree with you and others that the Central Committee of the Gorkha Janmukti Morcha should get themselves registered as soon as possible in order to avoid any embarrassing engagements with other parties or the West Bengal Government.
Regs
Barun
rahul said
hi barun,
have you ever considered a situation where GJM would have been invited to the all party meet today and its representatives would have faced a situation of 17:1? believe me that would’ve happened. the mamta dis and her ilk would have changed their spots then. i have reasons to believe that the CM wanted to avoid such a situation and hence he had invited GJM on 18th to have a meaningful 1:1. unfortunately gurung and mamata seem to be the 2 sides of the same coin!!
Osim Karki said
Mr. Barun
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According to the article of April 5 by Mrs. Sen in the “The Telegraph”, Gorkhas of of Hills Like Darjelin etc. has been termed as Foreigners, if so what to the Other Gorkhas who are residing since from long decades in other place of India like in N.E. States etc. Like me my previous 4 to 5 generations lived and die here, r we still foreigner, we think, we do, we enjoy like the other Indians do,this is really a heartning article, if an article may be publish like same, calling the Bengalis as Bangladeshi, will it be fair, although she elebroted well backed history, but the present democratic & political Part hasn’t noticed by her. Being a such intellect, renowened, n well paid journalist of the top esteemed National papern she has demolished he image, Might be shwe has been paid by some anti-Gorkha elemenst?
Pliz , pray for her, and lord may bless her heart for softcorner not with hypocracy and orthodox comunal feeling. Be generous, as she has been gifted with grand knowledge which is to be executed for the well being of the people.
Hey lord accept my par 4 her.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Karki,
Please check out the following Links on Sumanta Sen’s article:
1. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/fight-for-a-new-home/
2. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/letter-to-the-editor/
3. http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/the-telegraph-must-render-unconditional-apology/
Regs
Barun
Ben said
Dear Barun,
I’m a regular reader of your blog and would like to contribute as well. However lately I have seen that the std of the comments that are made is horrible this has seriously degraded the essence of blog. I know its impossible to avoid this but there could be some thing that can done.
All the best and do keep up the good work. Its good to know that your website is doing good, regarding the contribution I ll send you cheque and would like to order book called Cicada I hope got the spelling right. Do suggest me how to go about(would prefer email). Hope u’ ll find some alternative regarding the comments.
Wishing you all the best.
reagrds,
xxx
Rajesh Pradhan said
Barun bhai haven’t you received my mail yet,strange?…..Raj da.
barunroy said
Dear Rajeshda,
A very good morning to you. Yes, I have received your mail and am posting the pics as we speak.
Please do accept my best wishes
Regards
Barun
Y Pradhan said
Hi Barun,
Is something wrong with the site?
I haven’t been able to find leave comment box on some of the forums.
Could you please check and let me know if its just my system or is the the problem that everyone is facing?
prashant pradhan said
Dear Barun,
is there an email address of yours somewhere that I can copy you on the complaint I have made against the sikh online paper so you know that we have shown our support to the blog and that we care about beacononline.
I hope you resume the blog sooner than later. It was the one source that kept me abreast of the goings on here and also another means to integrate all the likeminded people.
Thank you for all your efforts.
Thanks
Prashant
Rajesh Pradhan said
It’s good that you’re back with the “Beacon Family” Barun bhai………Keep up the good work……….Rajeshda.
Update your blog and let’s start rolling buddy.
Rajesh Pradhan said
Wish the photographs and the small report attached was posted on your blog today,I had written about the people of Kharsang hoping for a relaxation in the bandh by today or tomorrow,it did happen.
aardee said
Barun
Why are the comment box closed on articles?
On the “Gorkha Pastors” I wanted to write that even my family is offering Mass in Delhi at our local Church…infact we are offering it both at Hindi & English mass so that more of our countrymen understand and become aware of Gorkhas.
Our effort needs prayers and blessing of God.
Regards,
Rashmi
Jeff said
Hi Barun,
I cant seem to find you email address anywhere. Would like to share some exclusive vintage pictures of Darjeeling (mid 1800s) that I managed to find in the British National Archives website.
Let me know you mail address please.
Jeff
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Jeff.
Greetings from Darjeeling!
You can reach me at barunroydarj@gmail.com
Regs
Homo Sapiens said
hi barun,
being a Bengali m ashamed that some of our bengali friends continuously using this blog as a media of molesting the Nepali people as servant, door keeper etc etc. and in response nepali and gorkhalis also actively abusing the other party.
This is really not desirable in a country like india.
Will you please stop them anyhow??? I felt like crying when i saw this kind of argument.
Hop u understand….
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
I completely agree with you. Remarks which demean others are completely unwarranted and uncivilized. I am coming up with a Beacon Online Comment Posting Rules. Any one violating these rules will be banned from the site. However, before implementing the Comment Posting Rules, I would like a deliberation on it by the esteemed members of the site so that a concensus could be reached.
Regs
Barun
aardee said
Barun,
The Comment box is missing yet again on news items…and YES u should CTRL+ALT+delete some very very disparaging remarks…that not just deman others but also makes your blog readers cringe at being seen on this blog.
sammy said
Dear Barun,
I have no idea if I’ll sound naive or not. I had planned to
visit Darjeeling the wonderful Darjeeling in September 08.
After reading a little on the political climate in Darjeeling
I am looking for advise on long term study [Buddhism] in this
gorgeous country.
Also, my I salute your service.
Sammy
barunroy said
Dear Sammy,
Thank you for your kind words. You are most welcome to visit Darjeeling. If you give me details about your interest (long term study in Buddhism ,eg..which tenets, there are various Monastery (universities specializing in numerous tenets), how long are you willing to stay etc., etc…As per problems regarding travels and lodging you will not have great problems.
Regs
sammy said
Thank you so much Mr.Barun for you reply,
I have been in the Nyingma tradition of Buddhism. I have some
Karma Kagyu study.
Do Buddhist families ever rent out rooms and bath.I plan on six
months stay and then because of visa requirements will leave
and come back if everything is agreeable between Darjeeling
and myself.I hear some westerns no the visa runs so they can
continue studies.
Again your generosity is appreciated
sammy
kuldipak said
dear barun
I would like to share with the beacon readers. some photos taken during the 60’s. I think its the first bhasa rally. How do go about it.
Homo Sapiens said
Hi Barun,
Thanks for your concern regarding the abusing comments posted on the blogs.Hope you will find something to restrict these very soon.
Barun, i would like to know how can i get a chance to work with your organization.I have done my B.A in journalism and then M.Sc in Electronic media.Presently I am residing in Bangalore, but basically from Purulia. At present I am working in an Interactive creative agency as a content writer.
Please provide me an opportunity to work with your organization. I find it a great initiative.
Thanks & regards
Sutapa
P.J. said
Dear Barun,
The demise of Sam Bahadur has been a great loss for the Go
sammy said
Dear Barun:
One last question when you have time.
Where is the nearest customs check point from another country
to Darjeeling.
If this site isnt the proper place to post this kind of question
please let me know.I would certainly appreciate that.
Thanks again,
sammy
jaigorkha said
Dear Da,
Since the talk I have had with u last time, I thought about it and I agree with you that we all have to change things, that is why I have started this blog by the name Jai Gorkha, I have used some of your pic s and will also be using your articles on my blog as i dont get updated much, so your site is the only rescue, I am adding your name, as full credit for the
Material should go to you, I am also starting the GJM unit in Delhi, we are going for a signature campaign tomorrow, Hope you will not mind me using your pictures and articles as they are for the same cause , peaceful and our own Darjeeling .my other email id will be gjmdelhi@gmail.com
And the web address is http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com Hope to get all the support you all can, we will try to do what we can here. May our wishes be fulfilled.
jaigorkha said
Dear Sammy,
As far as i remeber we get to see acheck point at the road which goes to Sandakphu, theres one more at jorthang and if i remember well theres one at Pashupati as well, there might be some more but these are the few i remember, now dont ask the functionality of these check points , i have no clue how they work, i think Barun da will be the best person to investigate.
insomniacreturns said
Dear Barun Roy,
I just heard from a friend that you are on X-News right now.Keep the good work going.
Regards,
From Bunch of Boys in Banaglore
Gorkhey Jeep said
Wow Great to see you on NewX…Great Job. YOu Rock!
Barun Roy again on NewX again on 12:30 and 4:30 tomorrow. Don’t miss it. You are a great inspiration to us all.
Please carry on and god bless you
jaigorkha said
Jantar Mantar , New Delhi 29/06/08
The signature campaign organized by the Delhi unit of GJM at Jantar Mantar turned out to be a great success, more then 500 people attended the signature campaign. Dr. Khatri and Mr. Pradhan were also present at the occassion. THe next event is to be on the 17th of April , where people From other community are coming here for a five day protest , this event will also take place at Jantar Mantar , Delhi.
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
sammy said
Dear Jaigorkha,
Thanks so much for your information.This site is really more
political then my posts. I am learning much however about
your political climate.Just don’t know what it means?
I’ll keep reading.
thanks again
sammy
RAI AK said
Dear Barun,
The headline on news of 30th June “Landslide in Kalimpong village, 59 families shifted” should be “Landslide in KURSEONG village, 59 families shifted”
Is there a personal contact address so that I may write you for personal information which will not be open to all the visitors of the site but helpful to you for the blog as well as your repository?.
Suggest Me.
Could the letters be arranged in the opposite order ie the current ones in the beginning and the older ones in the bottom?
AK Rai
Jeff said
There is Dr. Death threatening Barun..lol. Well Dr. Death, Barun is a journalist and it is his social responsibility to report facts. He is brave enough to handle his responsibility, unlike you who threatens people hiding behind aliases like “Dr. Death”…grow up and face the reality.
Jeff
Niraj Lama said
Barun, I read your Land Rover Article on Business World. It was a great piece. You are doing a yeoman’s job featuring Darjeeling Hills to the world community. Keep up the great work bro!
Llewellyn said
Hiya Barun,
Excellent reading of the latest news and views of the Darjeeling hills and surrounds, never realised that a magazine like the Himalayan Beacon existed!! your web page was forwarded to me by my sister from The United States.
Keep up the excellent journalism.
Best wishes
Lue
tycoon 1969 said
Dear mr Y K shrestra,
was reading yr comments vis a vis comments posted by Prashant with regards to the plight of the people of sikkim .whereas prashants comments were very mature yours were childish and on the rather extreme side – lacked of compassion for fellow brothers. Sikkimese people have always supported the gorkhaland movement in all possible ways ,but here it must be understood that the Govt. of Sikkim cannot support or officially endorse a call to create a seperate out of bengal. what if Bengal tomorrow say that a seperate state of Dzongu or lachung should be created out of sikkim. It is as simple as that.
So forcing a bandh on the people of Sikkim – for a stand that their govt. cannot officially take will only result in losing the goodwill of the people of sikkim in the long run.This i hope u will understand.
jaigorkha said
Delhi 6th July
The prisident of the Delhi chapter of GJJM has announced today that all the vehicles owned by the Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will from now on carry the number plates starting from GL. This request has been made keeping in mind the changes happening back in darjeeling.
Regards
GJJM
Delhi Chapter
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
aardee said
Jai Gorkha…Good luck to you on going around with a GL number plate in Delhi…beta challan kateg phataphat… : ) Yeh Dilli hain…rajdhani…be prepared to get harrassed by the Jat traffic cops.
I again appeal to all desist from writing GL on your vehicle number plates.
PPA said
All vehicles owned by Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will carry the GL number-plate.
What number-plates exist in Delhi ? Those of Indian states, those of the army and those of the consulate of different countries. Is there a chance that the demand for Gorkhaland as a state may be mistaken for complete freedom from India altogether? What are the chances? I mean – Imagine trying to explain the struggle for Gorkhaland amidst all the chaos … most of these cops dont know where Sikkim is and the few that do, think its a different country.
Dear President of GJMM Delhi Chapter, if indeed you have announced this – please let the people know that this is permissible by law. Tomorrow, if I want to put my name on my number-plate, Can I do it.. Can I create a number-plate called JAMESBOND 007 – because I really like James Bond movies and I would do anything to be closer to him. The Delhi Police will understand. Then, when I am in Darjeeling, I want to put PPA 1971. The West Bengal Police should not mind – if they allow GL number-plates, they can allow anything right? I mean, what is GL to anyone who is not familiar with the Gorkhaland movement? Or is there a rule that says that only people fighting for statehood are permitted to alter the number-plate system – the rest cannot.
Seriously though – what is the law on this – and can anyone just break it? Calling a strike is not illegal in India but I know that in NYC the person heading the Transit workers strike was imprisoned for calling a strike. So, I suppose you can call a strike to protest something. Can you really print your own number-plate? If there are any lawyers on this board who can think a little rationally, I request you to please enlighten all of us.
jaigorkha said
All vehicles owned by Gorkhas of Darjeeling in Delhi will carry the GL number-plate.
@ PPA
Politics is ruled by ETHOS, LITHOS and PATHOS, now there are few things which have no legal position in this small realm of politics, Youn can’t say that whatever we are doing is against the law , it is this law which will give us what we want and we just want them to know what changes is to be made, This is an emotinal outcoe of the desires we carry in our heart, Now it does not make a difference if we carry the GL number plates in delhi as it wqill hardly be noticed , this is what you mean to say , but remeber one thing , ONe tree can make thousands match stiks but one match stick can burn thousand trees. I am not talking violence here, its just a peaceful approach from our side to let them know that we are here to make this happen. How long will we wait for this to take place. Hope History will make your memory brighten up a bit, making salt in India was illegal, Gandhi Ji Did it, and its a hallmark . We are doing this to ignite a certain change. I understand your concern regarding all those people who will be doing this in Delhi. Dont woryy assistance will always be provided when needed, our numbers will be there for you to call us anytime theres any trouble, INfact our president of Delhi chapter is always on a run to take care of this.
For the law yes there is law for this as for the size and correct number and the format in which it has to be printed and put onnthe vehciles , but here you will have to understand that at this situation we are here to change the law for ourselves , what better way then to start it ourselves.
Regards
GJJM Delhi Chapter
jaigorkha said
@ PPA
Freedom of Speech and freedom of expression, We are speaking out loud and expressing our desire, thats our constitutional right, And when it is mentioned in our constitution i dont think it is against our own law, we are law abiding citizens of India, and we will never go against it .
Regards
GJJM Delhi Chapter
http://www.jaigorkha.wordpress.com
X-Man said
Jai Gorkha and GJJM Delhi chapter….its good to see you all come together as a group (delhi chapter)…you all seem to have learnt from your past mistakes…..please take it as a constructive criticism…but the majority of the gorkhas living in and around delhi are not happy with the way the delhi chapter has functioned in the past…they all are supporters of Gorkhaland and willing to provide support…a little bit of intorspection and a change in the approach is required…you will see the difference….!!!!
nepdai said
Jaigorkha,
is GJJM and GJM different? You have used GJJM instead of GJM or GJMM in your postings as well as some places in your site. If the organization is Gorkha Janamukti Morcha then what the second J stands for? Just a query though.
PPA said
Dear Jaigorkha – Sorry but i guess I was not clear enough. I just wanted to know if what was being done was legal or not – Is it legal to use GL number-plates in Delhi or anywhere else in India?
If it is illegal, what would be the penalty?
confused gorkha said
Khai, Darj ma ta implement garnu sakena, Delhi ma hare aba? Sabai jana thikai cha ke?
jaigorkha said
@ Nep Dai,
It is for sure GJM , the mistake were unintentional,(apologies for the mistake made) and J stands for nothing , this is what i want every one to understand , if there is even a little change in the NORMAL, it is noticed, we have been normal all this while , lets be different , a slight change in the initials GJJM “j” made a difference to one person and hence a question asked, this is the pshycology of us humans, a bit of difference in the usual things and our eyebrows are raised , So go ahead make a difference, someone somewhere will notice it and hence this spreads and becomes a usual and normal change, Now dont fall into words, i realise i had made the mistake, its only that there are loads of mails to reply to and plenty of things to sort out , it could have been a typo, Apologies again.
@ PPA
IPC says its illegal , but a revolution says it is allowed and constitution says you have the right to speech and expression , so i hope its clear now you can choose anyone of them, but a request , go ahead and do it , it will make you feel good about yourself and your identity, someone questions you about your identity , this is the first step toi show you have one.The penalty is some money .
@ Confused Gorkha
please dont be confused if you want to make a change happen , start it from yourself , i remember a story my dad used to tell me when i was young, ONce someone went to Gandhi ji with his son and complained about his son eating lots of sugar and not listening to him , whe he said he should stop eating it as it spoils his teeth. Gandhiji on hearing this told the person to come to him with his son after fifteen days , He came again after fifteen days with his son, Gandhiji then told the guy not to eat sugar and told him how this could harm him .
ON hearing this the person asked him why didnt u tell him fifteen days ago , why did u ask us to come here after fifteen days. ” Oh well fifteen days ago i had a habit of eating a lot of sugar” Gandhiji replaid.
Jai gorkha.
Regards
GJM Delhi Chapter
GURUNG HOM said
oh……..its made me really surprised that when i opened this side. gd jub n gd luck. n do not 4get d motto of gurkhas “ITS BETTER THAN DIE TO BE COWARD”
A GURKHA FRM SINGAPORE
PPA said
@Jaigorkha – even though I dont agree with you, I appreciate you explaining your point of view so rationally. I had become accustomed to people swearing and using profanity and showering insults if they did not see eye to eye about issues. Kudos to you for your patience.
I am sure we are headed in the right direction when we know that we have people like you giving the right directions. You come across as committed as well as rational. I hope you stay that way and not get carried away.
Thanks.
PPA said
Barun, I have tried to comment responsibly as far as possible in the past but, I would like to make a complaint about comment No. 162 in this link.
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/about/back-issue-of-beacon/in-newspapers-today/in-newspapers-today/in-himalaya-darpan-today/#comment-10201
I know that you have been very quick to catch and delete profanity from your blog so I am hoping you will take some action.
Thanks
barunroy said
Dear Mr. PPa the offending comment has been deleted and the commentator warned.
Regs
Barun
PPA said
Thank you Barun. I really appreciate it.
RAJA said
Dear Mr. Moderator,
Why only RELAY is banned???
Then you should banned all those including Bengalies & Nepalies bloggers who have used abusive words to each others communities…..Is not it one sided decision Mr. Moderator??? ……
My request to you give Relay a final warning before banning…and give this waring others also…dont show biasness….. as you are a journalist you should not supress others voice (voice means I’m not talking about those abusive remarks)
RAJA said
Mr. Moderator,
some hrs back you have given warning to Mr. the bengali….Now you banned relay…you are choosing only anti gorkhaland bloggers….it is not correct….try to come from biasness and make rules same for all….
RAJA said
Com’on Relay….cool down….
My request to you….dont use abusive words from now…let see what other bloggers are doing…if we see they are not geting banned or warned then we can come to a decision regarding the biasness of this forum…
RAJA said
Com’on Relay….cool down….
My request to you….dont use abusive words from now…let see what other bloggers are doing…if we see they are not geting banned or warned then we can come to a decision regarding the biasness of the moderator…
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Just one question and presume u may be in the dark as I am! after all the initial speeches and talk about checking on bribes taken and building of multi-storied buildings by the ex-GNLF Councillors GJMM were going to cease such properities, bank balances and fund the Gorkhaland Movement but it now seems that this has all died down!! These Ex-GNLF Councillors now seem to have their feet up and enjoying a lifestyle like the South American Drug Cartel members. What is going on?? I am quite curious to know what is happening with these GNLF Crooks!!!
Would be interested to read your comments or from anyone else fighting for the movement
Jai Gorkha
Luen Lama Darjeeling
NB said
I agree with Luen Lama and want to know,so that history wont repeat itself
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
Greetings from Darjeeling! You are certainly right on your assumptions. Nothing has happened. We do remember the files being seized from the former GNLF Councillors’ Houses and the raids carried by GJM and the promised steps thereof, nothing happened, nor from the side of the GJM nor from the Law Enforcement Authorities. A couple of weeks ago I had published about the 89 crore world bank project story… most of the money of the same is also missing. Politicians will be politicians and so will the Government who essentially are politicians themselves…. but the fault mostly lies with the people, I guess, who doesn’t give much about these scams and the politicians and bureaucrats keep on scamming us. We as journs have come out with the info on the ongoing scams every time we can but people read it shrug their shoulders and carry on….who is to be blamed…
I guess until an unless people come out to the streets irrespective of which party they support and demand investigations on these issues nothing will happen. The politicians and the bureaucrats will scam..we will write… the people will read and the whole thing will go on and on…
Regs
jaigorkha said
@PPA , well thanks for ur remarks.
Regrads
GJM Delhi Chapter
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Thanks for your reply and comments to my email asking what has happened to the investigations as regards the Ex-GNLF Councillors’ your reply and comments speak for themselves Politicians will be Politicians and all they think is of ‘Feathering their own Nest’ and as far as the Amjanta is concerned well what can I say!!!! they march away, scream and shout, go on hunger strikes some even get killed but at the end of the day its back to square one if you know what I mean!! The politicians/leaders make speeches get garlended and we still march, scream and get led away like sheep.( havent’ we had this for 21 years!!!!)
Look at Ghising, lucky man sitting in his 4 story rented house with a Z Category Protection WHY??? (was he a President??) I am amazed that no one even has the gumption to put this man behind bars for all his embezzlements and near ruination of our beautiful Darjeeling Hills and did nothing for the betterment of our people for the past 21 years. This man sold us out!!! like Judas did to Jesus!! I gather he is happy, relaxed(no matter what anyone says) and busy writing his biography what a joke!! in any democratic system of government this man should have been put away and brought to trial along with his cronies!!! I ask you!!
I appeal to the present leadership of the GJMM to start the investigations of these people and sort out the mess that they have made, forget about GL number plates, letting the school children go on hunger strikes, putting a bund in all our major towns, it only effects us citizens of the future Gorkhaland and I am confident that once we get GL things such as GL number plates will come in without any problems. Our first priority is for these crooks to be brought to justice for all the things they promised and dident’ do but only thought of lining their own pockets. The present leaders should realize doing nothing to these people will only harm them in the march for Gorkhaland as they are in the background stirring trouble. Once we the people see that justice is being carried out we the people who support the GL Movement will be satisfied and it is then, and only then that we will know that our present leaders mean business for a better future and the upliftment of our people and for GOKHALAND.
Jai Gorkha Brothers
Luen Lama
dd said
well i agree what has been afore said ,and i also agree that nothing will be done even if we get GL , tell me one thing where was Bimal gurung before the Prasant tamang thing happened, there were almost 3 crore votes that was sent to prasanth tamang during the whole episode, where did this money come from, 3 core into 6 is eighteen crore rs, this was somehting that was collected fromt he general public, some gave it willinglyu some were forced, i know some organisation who were forced to keep phone booths sothat free sms’s could be sent, non nepali citizens of darjeeling were harrased tro shell out monye, now people dont give me that crap that GL will be for everybody, tomorrow when we get Gl , we will supress these minority community more then what we have done, have u seen the attitude of our people in Darj itself, they call these minority ppl wht filty names and always disgrace them, we think we are superior to them, sahmeful but fact we do this, we dont realise that they have left their hometown and come so far and are contributing to the economy and growth of the town may be mroe then what we our selves have done, look at the business men in darjeeling, most of the are Marwari’s , bihari’s and bhutia’s , all the huge buildings we have , most of them are of bhutia’s , whre di d they come from, they are not the actual citizens of Darjeeling, to tell u the fact, have a look at mahakla market otr the new rink mall,hoiw many of the shops are owned by a nepali, i am not talking against their wealth or anything, i am talking about our mentality, most of you will be offended by what i wite, but remember one thing, these people who have come from far away have progresed more then us, who are the real citizaens of our town , now the constitution gives us right to settle anywhere in india nd to continue any profession we wnat, look at the contribution they are giving, most of the cloth shop’s we have are owned by marwaris.
aWe have spent all our energy in drinking and acting smart as a superior community, Bumal gurung says this will be for the people , i mean gorkhaland, ask him is he not seeing a dream of being the first chief minister of a new state, is he not willing to earn a lotwhich already he has, the amnount of money collected during the porashant tamang episode, where did it go , where is the account for that, and where is that bimal gurung is getting his money from,
now as i have spoken against him , ma waiting for some rude comments and some inaappropriate language but that is welcome anyways,
When barun wrote something against the GJm he was attacked ad also threatened, about it ,a nyone who is not willing to do what bimal says is an enemy of the community.
QUESTION:
what will u do if you get a state:
where is the money to make it better , u will certainly go to the centre for money as darj has nothing to suppoort its own economy, now if the centre starts making every district a state then we might have more the 20000 state sin india, wow thats gonna be a an amazigncountry to look at,
Funny people dont realise is by doing ll this they are not only wasitng their time but are also stoping their own growth, if we are looking at sikkim and demanding the same, Sikkim is far more advanced in terms of technology and economy, we are nowhere near it, we pride our tea, but does anyone of us knw that its only the taxes we get as a state , the duty on it goes to the central govt, and there in nothign that the tea busines shas to offer the town as almost 100% of the tea is exported.
there are a loads of things whhich one cold write if intente to. anyways continue people continue,
As fools lead thoise who are a bigger fools.
dd said
prashant tamang won the whatever idol competition it was , i dint even vote a single time ,as i think he didnt have quality , there were better singers then what he was, he won just because of votes, that is what we do with our politicians , we dont look at his quality we look atthe popularity, as prasanth tamang did nothing for darjeeling who gave him so much support after winning the comp, same is with bimal gurung or anyone else , noone will do anyting , they are just ment for themselves.
YKS said
Dd,it’s time to unite and we don’t want all these bhashans.
Where will we get the fund?? Where’s Sikkim and msot of NE states getting their funds from?
Come on man!! What are u trying to say?
YKS said
Dd, rasta pakad yaar!! Patli gali!!
dd said
@YKS PATLI GALI,
NE gets it fund from ISI and also Bangladesh, if u dont believ it search for facts, the things that happened in Bangladesh during the riots were funded by RAW an Indian intelligence agency, and Bimal gurung or even Ghising was funded from his own holigans left unleahsed int he town to rob the minority community, u think gorkhaland will be urs, well who are u or who am i , infact we are truly nepali’s and nothing else. so calling ourselves Gorkhali’s is just a propoganda and nothing else, friend open your eyes and see the fact, nepali is a community and not a country citizenship,
Wjhre did u get ur funds from YKS,
Today every oen is interested in getting the state but ask gurung what will he do once he gets it, show us the plans he intends to implement, show us the development he would bring in darjeeling,cmmon man he has no plans, he is just taking advantage of the flow right now, The Prashant tamang fiasco, wake up people wake up, what are u doing by supporting the bands etc, just spoiling ur childrens education, hurting ur economy, Siliguri is gonna be the next economic centre, as it connects nepal , bhutan,the whole of NE. now tell me , what does darjeeling has to offer to siliguri, it is siliguri which offers everything to darjeeling , right from foood demands to other utilities, if siliguri would be removed then darjeeling ppl would find it difficult to survive,
Making Darjeeling a state is out of question ,a nd that also bythe people of the hills, man immpossible, if they do it they are biggest fool. Bimal gurung has more then 12 cases against him , even murder cases, if theny want they can arrest him and even Bimal gurung knows that thnat is why , when he had a meeting wiht us few weeks ago he said that he would go underground and then would take non violence as a step to get it , ask him if he didnt say that , all of our darjeeling pprimary teachers were peresent there when he said that, ask him if he can deny it that he said it.
P.J. said
@DD
sorry to break the news to you, i dont buy your reasoning regarding Gorkhaland and the NE states. Your tone and the direction of your last post, i think clearly shows your intentions. I have seen a lot of posters here who pretend to be Gorkhas but are not, remember “watermelons” during the 80’s?, i would say these are “cyber watermelons” except for a few valid speculations, i think the rest are cuckoo stuff! The north east states are funded by the isi, good joke!
dd said
@PJ
Poor Joke, u think this is a joke, where do u think they get their ak47 from, where do u think they get their grenades and bombs from, where do u think the funding simes from, m not here to clarify thinkgs, i know so i am telling u , if u want complete information there is RIGHT to INFORMATION act 1991 , just spend 50 and get all the info u want about all the operations that have been done in the NE and the reports and the result.
Go for iut man, if u want fdunding for it let me know will send it personally to u through Barun.
And by the way i am not a gorkha i am a nepali and thats the name of my community, if u know so much kindly enlighten me with the knowledge as this small intelligence in myh brain does not let me digest this thing about GORKHA’s/
B Lepcha said
murkha se bhoot bhi darey…
RAJA said
I dont think NE states are geting official funds from ISI but their militant outfits are getting fund from ISI…it’s true and everyone knows that…it’s not a matter of GL or not GL..So come out from personal or communal ego…..and admit that NE Militants are getting funds from ISI…..
dd said
that is the point i have been trying to make for the last few talks, i have never mentioned states are getting funded,m talking about the revolutionary groups, yes theya re getting funded and they have been getting that for long, i am afraid , that even pur Darjeeling miught be affected in such a way, when we have ;leaders like Biumal Gurung, iu dont know why has he changed his colors, i am sure he has some dangerous intentions behind it .
Itwill not take even an hour when the whole hill starts burning , knowing the kind of support he is carrying reight now Bimal gurung can do this anytime, it s just a amtter of tiume, Choor choori se jae hera feri se na jaye, i am not saying this because i dont want GL , fine i would be happy wiht it , but i am scared of the kind of leaders who are leading the revolution.
Someone with authority please clear my doubts i will be happy to be assured that nothgint s gonna go worng,
B Lepcha said
dd Says:
July 11, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Someone with authority please clear my doubts i will be happy to be assured that nothgint s gonna go worng,
DDji the only person I think who can clear your doubts is Mr YK Shresthaji.
RAJA said
Friend,
What would be in future that no one can predict…hope for best….No one want blood bath….But from this BLOG ROOM one think I can realise this “Bengali-Gorkha” communal hatred is going to be danger for all…..
I can pray for peace from here….Rest of things in your hand who lives in darjeeling /siliguri…
P.J said
Dear Barun,
as i am usually outdoors and use my cell to participate here. Navigation is very cumbersome and takes a lot of time. Would it be possible to add page numbers of a particular topic to jump to a specific page, maybe we could those just below the prev & next links. What do you say?
Luen said
Guys,
lets not be communial after all we are all Indian Citizens, no matter what our communities may be, lets all unite fr the cause and be one after all I am sure 99% of us want Gorkhaland! lets be sensible and not single out any community.
All I say is that let us hope & pray that our present leaders do the right thing and continue to work in a peaceful manner to obtain Gorkhaland. By abusing communities who are not Nepalies/Gorkhas’ is very silly and childish. Many of these communities have been here for as long as 3 generations and I am sure support the cause in more than one way!!
Lets be sensible my brothers
Luen Lama
Luen said
YKS – Tau ko ho??? Gorkhali ho bhaney tero naam dinu kina darako !! Hami ta ASLI Darjeelingay ho – tau jasto Gorkha naam dinu daraudina. Mero blog bujis ki bujinas ? Eso bichar ma ta tailey bujena justo po lagyo!! Mero bichar ma ta tau po bahira ko justo lagyo, karan, MULA shabda NEPAL ko harulay matra chalau cha Darjeeling ko harulay haina.
Bhetnay bhanay bhetung mo ta Darjeeling ma nai chu hayrung tau kusto Gorkhali rahecha – Khukuri boknay ki Macha khanay !
Mero blog ma talai ta mailay gocheyko chuina – tero problem kay ho ? To justo jehgne lay ta hamro Gorkhaland ko naam bigarchas matrai. Tero ilaka ma tau bas, hamro ilaka ma hamilai basnu dey.
JAI GORKHA – JAI GORKHALAN
Luen Lama
Shahensha said
bhinna-bhinnai ilaka maa base pani ladai chai eutai hunuparchha parchha, lakshya eutai hunuparchha tyo ho GORKHALAND.
Gorkhaland bhai sake pachhi ta teen paane khandai ladoula ni hou. Tara ahile ghari chai hoina hai natra aru haschha hai.
PJ said
Luen jiu,
tapai ley alik overreact gareko justo lagyo malai. Yo ilaka ko kura haina, yo sabbai Gorkha haru jhaha pani cha, yo sabbai ko lagi ho. There have been many bloggers coming here with Gorkha names, with the intention of confusing the readers. Mo pani Darjeeling ko nai ho, taruh i dont agree with your last post at all. Sad, that you think that way.
Bengal said
As a bengali and resident of West Bengal I just want to request all my fellow bengali and gorkhali friends who are not at all residing or never a inhabitant of Bengal not do any childish act and throw abusive remark to each others….mind it genle men you are not from bengal….here in north bengal we and gorkhalis are staying together more than centuries….we all are having problem with our communist poor government …. we know north bengal is not at all developed….these all the issues can be sort out on table ….and politicians are doing their duty to sort those probs…..but I am requesting you people (Bengalis + Gorhalis..outsider)to act as a mature citizen….Dont provocate others by saying any abusive word so that whole community get hurt by that…..
Just realise these kind of nonsense acts can ignite fuels and as a consequence innocent peoples will burn….Yesterday I saw some video clips from youtube and realised what could be the results if a full fledge riots break out….
So acts as a good citizens….
(Yesterday I was got so hurt that I decided to leave this blog room but then I realised I have some duty to carry out…..I am out of country that doesn’t mean I should stay indifferent)
Luen said
Hi Barun,
My apologises for the couple of Nepali swear words used by me on my blog number 137 of the 12th, I had no intentions of writing in such a manner and now consider myself an idiot for having succumbed to gutter lanuage. What I had written in my blog number 135 was just to caution us all not to be communial, after all we all want the same thing and that is a peaceful Gurkhaland not bloodshed with the other communities who have been living in our besides us for generations if you know what I mean!! but I don’t think he or she understood what I have tried to put acrss in my blog They thinks that I am an outsider but little do they know that I am a true blue Gorkhali and have been one longer then them.
If you read his reply to me on his blog Number 136 you and the other bloggers will understand my feelings and why I have replied in the manner that I have written.
Apologises again for the gutter language
Rgs
Luen Lama
PS: If anyone thinks that I am an Outsider then they are most welcome to contact me and I will be happy to meet them and they can see for themselves as to what community I come from I am true blue Darjeelingay. Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Jyoti T M said
I applaud Bengal/Raja’s stand and also Luens’s. Poor Communist governance has already ruined the culture and society of this region. Both Gorkhalis and Bengalis have been known to be decent polite people. Ministers like Ashok Bhatta and Subhash Chakra have made the Bengalis so communal and racist-minded. In retaliation the gorkhas have also become vitriolic. I had also been affected till Mozo opened my eyes. The discomfort is also percolating btween Gorkhas and Bengalis in Delhi. We are all silently aware that there is a war going on between our people. Anything which spreads like a virus is bad for everybody.
MOJO said
hey barun pliz rectify the problem with Darpan post yaar.there’s no post for today.
keep up the good job
regards,
mojo
YK Shrestha said
(Luen Says:
July 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
YKS – Tau ko ho??? Gorkhali ho bhaney tero naam dinu kina darako !! Hami ta ASLI Darjeelingay ho – tau jasto Gorkha naam dinu daraudina. Mero blog bujis ki bujinas ? Eso bichar ma ta tailey bujena justo po lagyo!! Mero bichar ma ta tau po bahira ko justo lagyo, karan, MULA shabda NEPAL ko harulay matra chalau cha Darjeeling ko harulay haina.
Bhetnay bhanay bhetung mo ta Darjeeling ma nai chu hayrung tau kusto Gorkhali rahecha – Khukuri boknay ki Macha khanay !
Mero blog ma talai ta mailay gocheyko chuina – tero problem kay ho ? To justo jehgne lay ta hamro Gorkhaland ko naam bigarchas matrai. Tero ilaka ma tau bas, hamro ilaka ma hamilai basnu dey.
JAI GORKHA – JAI GORKHALAN
Luen Lama)
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Luen Lama,
What the hell do you mean to say by all you have written??
In post no. 136, I had responded to some Dd. (his post nos. 122,123,126,128,131).
Malai ke ko dar?? I have been blogging with my original name, it’s only recently that I started giving only my initials. I am not from Nepal. Khusi lagyo sunera ki ta ASLI darjeelinge bhaner. Mo chahi ASLI Assam ko ho, bujhis?? Colonel Villa (Junior Municipal School) ani St. Robert’s padheko, bujhis? What the hell do you mean man? I wonder what’s wrong with you.
You can contact me at 09810611240 Mr. Luen Lama. Do u think I’m scared? Leap before you jump. I had not written anything against you. If you are the same person using Dd as the blog name, then go to hell. I still don’t subscribe to your views. Jhegneharu, when u want Gorkhaland, u need the support of all Gorkhas. My big B- – - – S to you man. Call me if you want to.
Nisha said
Yam daju..great that you have responded back to him..!! I was wondering as why you have been keeping quiet for this comment..
but what i dont understand is Nepal ko nai bhaye pani whats the big deal hoina ra..aakhir ma barun roy le bhaneko nai cha..this blog is meant for Gurkhas all over the world..and Nepal ma ta jhan there are lots of gurkhalis prevailing..gorkhaland ta matrai gurkhas haru ta simeet pakkai pani chaina..
but anyway dear brother..i like your guts..keep it up bro!
YK Shrestha said
Nishoo, I saw his comment just today only and I was kinda surprised because I did not write anything against him. I got confused, went back to the posts again and again and saw if I had written anything against him. I confirmed myself first and responded. I had written against someone by the name “Dd” and not against this nut. I wonder what made this nut to jump the gun unless had had been writing as “Dd” too.
Bryan said
How you doing guys?
It is a great feeling that this movement is different than the movements of the 80s. It is good to see ppl discussing in the net where ppl from all over the world can read and comment.
JTM said
Hey what is this asli Darjeelingay stuff? here I am trying to connect all the Gorkhas. Is this feeling an attribute to more or just Luen. I came across one Mozo who had similar problems. Esto na hos ki bholi Gorkhaland payo pacchi hammi aru Gorkhali haru lai timiharu ley Gorkha haino bhannu thalos.
Nisha said
Bryan..
are you asking all the bloggers…? well! on behalf of all the bloggers…i would like to do the honour..of responding..
we are doing absolutely great!!
oh yes, the agitation of 80s and of now..there is a much much big difference…we were school kids of class 3, 4 when the Gorkhaland agitation broke during 80 and now at 2008 agitation we all are grown ups..!!maturity level ta purai ako cha and we do know what Gorkhaland issue is all about..!
Nisha said
JTM Says:
July 15, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Hey what is this asli Darjeelingay stuff? here I am trying to connect all the Gorkhas. Is this feeling an attribute to more or just Luen. I came across one Mozo who had similar problems. Esto na hos ki bholi Gorkhaland payo pacchi hammi aru Gorkhali haru lai timiharu ley Gorkha haino bhannu thalos.
HO JYOTI DIDI..TAPAILE THIK POINT OUT GARNU BHAYO..Gurkhalees are not just limited to Darjeeling ni hoina..? kamti ta rishutdaina ta esto kura sunda..i too stay in Kathmandu but me too is a Gurkhali woman ni..ke ko darjeelingey, kalimpungey, kurseongey ko ratt lagairako…tyaso bhaye ta what about gurkhalees from all over the world..tinaru chai ke KAANCHI AMA KO santaan hun..too much bhayo abo ta! sick of hearing mo aeta ko gurkhali, to aeta ko bhanera..
Nisha said
THE PPL WILL LAUGH WHEN THEY SEE US FIGHTING HERE HAI..SO BETTER WATCH OUT ALL THE GURKHALI FRIENDS..!! THINK MORE THAN 10 TIMES BEFORE WRITING COMMENTS..HAMI KAHA KO HO BHANERA..SOME PPL MUST REALLY BE LAUGHING THEIR HEARTS OUT HAI..
YK Shrestha said
Dear JTMji,
Sometimes I do wonder why I’m supporting GL with stupid people like Mojo and Luen around.
Darjeelingeys think that they are superior than other Gorkhas I do not know which world they are in.May be they are thinking that after the formation of GL, all the Gorkhas will come there to settle down. My foot!!
If I ask, what have the Darjeelingeys achieved?? Gorkhas are in majority there, so it’s obvious that they have three MLAs there. Compare that to Assam where we are not concentrated in one particular area. We have two MLAs, one MP and the speaker of the Assam Assembly is a Gorkha, Sri Tanka Bahadur Rai. The treasurer of Assam Congress is a Gorkha.
We have Gorkhas across all the sections in Assam doing well, that is what we are proud of and that is the survival of the fittest.
Nisha said
Good Yam Daju..Good!
mero man ma je thiyo..you have spoken that out…!
what a relief!
Nisha said
HEEEEEEEEERO HUNU KHOJEKO HOLA NI..DARJEELINGEY BHANERA..!!
aardee said
YKS/JTM its good to see your feedback on members of our community in other parts of India besides Darj & surrounding hills…Apna toh hisaab ekdum simple hain…hum Gorkha hain aur hum aap ki izzat karte hain is ka matlab yeh nahin ki hum kisi ki bezzati sehange.
Also, I think Luen & DD ko unanswered question edkdum valid thiyo…ki Gorkhaland ko lagi GJM ko game plan ke ho…. the commet about BG publicly declaring that he will go underground and then carry on a violent movement sounded ominious.
Also the question that what is the status on the clamp down on corruption is moot? But then we must not forget who will take action. The people with GJM are the same that were with the GNLF…so ab kaun kis ki khabar lega?
JTM said
Wo! Nisha is from Kathmandu, YKS is from assam, Aardee is from Dehradun and me from Himachal☼—fighting for Gorkhas and Gorkhaland in Darjeeling on this blog
JTM said
And Barun who is a Bengali. Wo!
Madhesi said
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Mero Madhesi Bhaiyo aur Baheno,
Nepla ka Madhesio hum ee aap logo pe naaj hain….hum bihari aur UP bhaiyo ka full support hain aap logo ke liye…aap log ladiye wo maoist se aur chin liziye aapna hauk…..AAk din aapna sanpa pura hoga….apna Madhesi State for we madhesis….
THE GORKHA CONSCIENCE said
THE MASTER STRATEGIST……………. Bimal Gurung,sixth passed taxi driver may be a master strategist and a woer of the Nari Morcha and the general masses – but he is also a grave sinner….. His record has shown that he is a murderer, extortionist, womanizer, cheat and a thief…… While the Gorkhas are awed and intimidated by his meteoric rise to power for the achievement…. let us not forget the rise of Hitler and his strategies…. BREAKING NEWS IS THAT: On 1st July 08, his house at Takvar was gheraoed for making yet two more innocent girls pregnant when he already has two wives….. It was conveniently hushed up. WHERE ARE ALL THE “INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS FROM THE TELEGRAPH, THE STATESMAN, TIMES OF INDIA, THE HINDU, ETC………….Using Bimal Gurung currently may be a good strategy to achieve Gorkhaland by the GORKHAS……….and the communist WB govt deserve just such a leader to out-maneuver them …. but after that he must be eliminated as a sinner for the greater good of the Gorkhas or else they will be doomed…..Time alone will tell as we see this dreaded story of the RISE and FALL of Bimal Gurung…. All Indians keep a keen eye open for what is unfolding……
-THE GORKHA CONSCIENCE
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Gorkha Conscience, it might be a good idea for you to substantiate your allegation before going about it! It might be libelous for you to comment like that. Remember every comment is solely individual for his or her comment.
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
dear barun,
Kaal ker kichu topics ami pacchi na, purono topics gulo ki apni remove kore den??
aardee said
On 1st July 08, BGs house at Takvar was gheraoed…I seem to remember reading this info…
Nisha said
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Madhesi Says:
July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Mero Madhesi Bhaiyo aur Baheno,
Nepla ka Madhesio hum ee aap logo pe naaj hain….hum bihari aur UP bhaiyo ka full support hain aap logo ke liye…aap log ladiye wo maoist se aur chin liziye aapna hauk…..AAk din aapna sanpa pura hoga….apna Madhesi State for we madhesis….
HEY MADHESI..
EVEN MY SUPPORT IS FOR THE TERAI PPL AT NEPAL…I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TIME AND AGAIN HUMILIATED BY SOME OF THE NEPALESE FROM NEPAL..I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY MOCKINGLY AND INSULTINGLY CALL THE TERAI PPL..”AEY MADHISE!!!”bichara tyahi madhise bhaiharule kasto dukha garera ghar ko dhoka samma sabji cycle ma rakhera bechcha..ajahi uniharulai nai insult garcha…khai kahile sikne ho..aeta nepal ko nepali harule BANI BEHORA..
YK Shrestha said
Where is Luen Lama?
Vanished?? Waiting for your call Mr. Luen Lama. I’ll keep this topic active until I hear from him.
Jyoti T M said
Nisha
I appreciate yr feelings for the madhesis. There has been an attitude problem. Can you imagine even Nepalis like us from India were called ‘madhesis’ in Kathmandu?
The terai plays a major role historically. Called the granary of Nepal, though nobody wanted to live there because it was a malaria-infested area, everybody fought for it. In 1815, the East India Company wrested it from Nepal. In 1857, the same British gave it back to Jung Bahadur Rana. It continued to be a major tiger shooting area for Rana and his Briish friends. Nobody really cared much for the people’s development. To some extent they respected the Shahs who earned their affection.
Today and tomorrow, the Terai will continue to be a thorn in the Maovadis side.
Nisha said
But YK daju..
Luen lama.luen nai bhayera aauncha ta..i doubt..coz mero bichaar ma eutai manche 2,3 kisim ko naam le blog garda raicha..asti RAJA naam bata..euta maanche le pura nepali slang words..mostly used in Nepal..Himalayan times darpan ma..by the name RAJa..now i am in confusion ….is this the same RAJA who supports bengalese..? coz his Nepali slang was damn fluent..ofcourse i complained to Barun Roy and he has deleted the comment..
Nisha said
Jyoti didi..
tyo Nepali haru ko aankha guchcha le baneko thiyo hola ni ta..ani sabai lai madhise nai dekhcha..they do have lot of attitude problem..but again sab dekhawati..!!
oh yes! you are right..terai does play a major role..when strikes occur at terai region..the so called Nepalese from nepal actually faces a crucial problem, ahile ta nepali lai pani terai ppl have started calling..”Aey Pahaadey” now this sounds funny here but the ironical remark thus made has put a serious impact for both the terai and hill ppl..i just pray and hope everything settles down in a peaceful way..
all these calling of names madhise, pahaadey, blah! blah! should come to an end..
kuldipak said
Dear Barun.
SOS. Just a few days ago i lost a very precious book which i had bought during the last Gorkhaland agitation (80’s.)This book is by Tanka Bh. Subba. Any idea if i can get a reprint of the said book?
Oxford does not have it.
Can any of your readers help me
YK Shrestha said
Dear Luen Lama,
Pls call me. I want to hear from u, ur grudges against me.
rgds
YK Shrestha aka YKS
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Kuldipak,
Greetings! Will try to find the book and get back to you. There must be a copy at the Nepali Sahitya Sammelan and some of the friends. Could you give me the exact title of the book as it might help me find the book faster?
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Dear Shrestha Ji,
Dont’ worry I will get back to you in due course, many thanks for your contact number my Asom Gorkha bhai.
Luen Lama
YK Shrestha said
Luen, let me know what was your grudge. Go thru’ the blogs. I had not responded to you or abused you. I had responded to some Dd’s remarks. Have you bothered to go thru’ the entire blogs? Or is it you are still not able to understand? I was expecting an apology from you,not this threatening mail. What do u mean by “Don’t worry I will get back to you in due course”, why not call just now? Or else, give me your number and I’ll explain u. It seems you have not gone thru’ the blogs and have just replied to me.
YK Shrestha said
Luen Lama,
Blog no. 136 of mine was a reply to Dd (can u read and comprehend??).I had responded to the blogs of some Dd. (his post nos. 122,123,126,128,131).
Just because, ur blog was no. 135, u assumed in ur own wisdom that I had responded to you.
I see a hint of sarcasm in your reply too. (many thanks for your contact number my Asom Gorkha bhai).
If you want GL, you need our support. When the issue of GL comes up, we will be counted. Have you understood? I’m not going to come to Darjeeling and snatch your livelihood. Try to rise above the petty things of life. Darjeelinge bhaner matrai furukka bhayer matrai hudaina ta.
Luen said
Dear Sherestha Ji,
Before I go on any further APOLOGISES from my side, I agree with you that I read your blog and realise that i have accused you for having thought that you had replied to my blog when actually it was to Dd’s blog. Happy! and I dont’ mean this in sarcasm!!!
I would deinately like to meet up with you my friend and hopefully when my regiment is transferred back to Assam in the very near future we will definately meet especially now that I have your contact number. For your info let me tell you that I also have friends and relatives scattered around Assam right from Dibrugrah, Tinsukia, Golaghat,Tezpur and even in Guwahati so I also know the support that we have from Assam.
I see that you are an ex-St.Robert’s student,funny you should mention this as I am also an ex-student from good old St. Robert’s, we must and will definately meet over a good Assamese lunch or dinner and discuss the GL issue in-depth in the not too distant future.
Regarding your last para where you have mentioned about coming to Darjeeling and snatching my liveihood, well I don’t think that we should worry about this ever happening! not that it worries me in any way I have risen up petty matters as you put it and even apolgised to you. The matter is now dead & buried. Tara bhai Darjeelingay bhanera matrai phurkay chuina la.No sarcasm added.
Keep up the good blogging and hoping to meet up with you in the very near future in some Assamese Town or city remember we have a date!!
Jai Gorkha
Luen Lama
J T M said
Chalo ramro bhaiyo Luen le atmosphere clear gardiyo. Good for you Luen.
Now that Mozo has to show his colours. Is he a Gorkha or some fraud speaking the language? Theba the warrior indeed! You are no warrior—Theba or Mozo!
YK Shrestha said
Luen, that’s better. You could have simply said that you misread my blog in the very first place.That would have certainly brought an end to this chapter. I like to blog sensibly and do not want to trample on others foot nor do I want others to do so un-necesarily.
Yes, I’m happy and it certainly hurt me when you went boom-boom with your slangs. It doesn’t hurt you/anybody if you react after going thru’ the blogs properly.
You seem to be an army man and I’m sure you would have heard of Rangapara, Lokhra and all as these places are nearby Tezpur.
I’m even more happy to know that u r a Robertian, I passed out in 1977 and me and my elder brother were famously known as Shrestha brothers from Assam. (Ain’t blowing my own trumpet though).
Well I certainly would like to meet you over a Gorkha dinner and yes I’m based at Delhi. Give me a trinkle whenever u come down to Delhi.
From my side, now this issue is over and buried for good.
Nisha Titung Tamang said
THANK GOD! THE DISPUTE BETWEEN YAM DAJU AND LUEN IS OVER.. AM EXTREMELY HAPPY..!!
aardee said
GJM Delhi Chapter…re GL number plates and no action taking place in Darj & surroundng hills, am told by one of the advisors that is because the police is scared to do any thing & the police are with the people. To not create a law and order situation in which the police will be totally outnumbered 1:5000 atleast.
In Delhi it will definitely not work & there is no question that the right to “freedom of expression” does not extend to changing number plates at will in the country’s capital or anywhere in India for that matter. Rule is rule & bhool is bhool…n bhool ke liye jurmana by Delhi Police will be taken in full measure.
Do not equate what Gandhiji did to what BG (G = Gurung not Gandhi) is doing.
Luen said
Hi YKS,
just to let you know brother that I will be off the air for a few days – duty calls if you know what I mean!!!
Will get back to you when I am back on base.
Take care and regards.
Luen Lama
dd said
my comments triggered so much of waste coneversation between people, freids apologies for the same. but my stand my questions remain the same, what treatement do u give to the people who are not nepalis/gorkhalis,they are called madhesis in Nepal, madise is Darjeeling, have not u humilated them like anything, have mnot each one of the gorkhas looted them in a while or so, hove u not treated them as if they were of some inferior species, and this time you are asking their help, i saw the rally in delhi and nto even a single non nepali/gorkhali was there, where are the bihari’s . marwari’s and bengalis doing arent they supporting it , i didnt see it at all.
Now again my questions?
Whre are the funds commin from
what will u do with a state
when siliguri and other parts are forming the integral part of the satate why name it gorkhaland why not somehting else, and why only the gorkhas are fighting for it.
What did Prasant tamang do for Darjeeling , when each and every person had to shell out money for his success, he didnt wi because he was good , he won because he got votes and for the votes, people we re forced to give that money , and if u gorkhalis were doing it for you love for your own kind and its identity then where ru rightnow when one more is in need of your votes and this time it is some Thapa on NDTV imagine, cmmon uys vote for him do it , he is of ur kind,
What assurance can u goive that the new state when built will not be dominated by useless leaders like we have right now, everyone is just thinkng about himself, (political gimmics) nothing else, you have been treating the other community people very cheaply and now today when u need a state you tell them every one is a gorkhali, HYPOCRITS, thats the word i have for you,
when i was in darjeeling i have seen people of other community being looted, and hey no FIR’s cause they ahev to stay there and earn their livlihood, PANI ME REHKE MAGARMACH SE BAIR< h can that happen, .
Someone sais we are fighting for the gorkhali’s of darjeeling do u know thereare families of other community who have lived there for more the 200 years infct fromt he time when the roads were not even properly designed, what do u call them GOrkhali’s or still people from other community.
Every oine is a gorkhali here . funny, so eevry punjabi who lives in Bihar is a bihari, or all those people who live in banlore are banglorians, funny.
WHy are we forcing them to call themselves gorkhali’s , cmmon man , all the strikes are happening and all those things thast are taking place , most of it is forced , and no one can raise a question on that , i salute the guts of that old man there , i dont know what he has one to darjeeling but man he is the one with the balls.
dd said
all u nepali jjhypocryte u think we dont understand ur gimmics, we know everything , u thinnku can call urself gorhkhalis and get wehat u want u think the cenbtral govt is such a foolt aht it will make every distrcit as a state then imagine how many states will we have more then 30000 astates\what percent is darjeeling of whole of Inida
not evn 1 percent, ass that they will make ita state/
hot4coolbt said
Dd,
Its better you write in Bangla. Your Benglish is TERRIBLE. Now about your Questions:
Where CPI(M) gets FUNDs? Give us details & we will come up with all details of GJMM.
What have you DONe in last 30(Thirty) years of your RULE in Bengal? In Calcutta after British left only 2(Two) Govt. Schools were built.
what do you expect in in North Bengal there is no Safe Drinking Water yet in SMC area.
This we DEFINITELY WOULD NOT DO when we get Gorkha land.
Your last Question, I failed to UNDERSTAND.
Rest in Next COMMENT
dd said
@hot4coolbt
Dear Friend m sorry my benglish is bad causer i dont understand bengla neither can i speak one, banne kura yo ho ki ma ta bangla jandina , tara nepali chai ramro bolnu ani padnu sakchu hai, timi le saathi bujne kura ye ho ki , jati pane gare , tara Gl payera pani kei hune chaine.pahila GNLF le council pao , ke chai farka padyo hai, abbo BG le state paune hare , luta payo hare , ke chai garne tyo payera. identity , ke ko identity , kasto identity, most of us who are in darjeeling are from nepal, ani teti kura bujne ko cha ra, darjeeling ke maximum janta ta, nepali ho , ani bihari marwadi ,ra butias haru pani ho, ra muni dhobi talla ra butcher basti ko hamro muslim bhai haru pani cha, tini haruke security chai ko le sochne , cpim ko paisa ta c=hore ra aako ho , tyo sabai hami lai tha cha hai, tini harule ta bridha pension ko paisa pani khai dincha, what i want to ask is has notn this thing happend in darjeeling too , wiht the gnlf being in power. lutyo ta hamilai. ahile darjeeling ko bato pani thik chaina , darjeeling dekhi siliguri aune samay 3.50 minute laghhcha hai , state payera 5 ghanta chai na lagos hai,
more int eh next comment, you have every right to getr angry at my comments but trey to understand my stand on this, i knwo we all are hypocrytes as we know these polkiticians are not to be trusted but still we do what they tell us to. tellme how will it benefit the general public.
wiull we get the recognisation as the ppl of sikkim get, their people have amazing gift s from the govt will we get it .????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
Tattu said
Dd jhegne,
Over
dd said
@tattu
Dear Friends do you know what does Tattu mean , anyways forget it i am not here to talk about personal names , but for your knowledge it also means Khachhar in HIndi , and tis a mix breed of Ghoda and gadha, hope u understand where u stand, anyways talkinmg about me bbeing a gorkhali or not, very well i am not a gorkhali and i hate thiose people calling me a gorkha, i am a proud nepali and i beive in the fact that this fact is being plagmarised by the General Bg, i hate the population for that.Where did gorkhas originate from , there is nothing like gorkha , all the lepchas ,and the tamangs are supposed to be gorkhas and i believe also the gurung sabout which i am not sure , i dont know i think barun can help us in this, but the rest , where and how did they become gorkhas, i am chettri (parnami) and believe me i know that i am a nepali and i am proud of being one, nepali is not a natiojnality but an i detity, when a crow tries to be a swan it not only losses its own identity but also never gets the one which it goes after.
@ hot4coolbt
My another question which you failed to understand was, if you looka the map which has been made for new gorkhaland , that show s the reas where the bengalis are there, and their populaqtion is more then what we have in darjeeling and others combined, then why should the new state be called gorkhaland why not east bengal , and why should , Darjeeling be the capitalm which is proposed , why not siligri , which is economically so strong, and why arnt the bengalis fightin for it , if you want it you have to change the direction of the wabes, which for sure we pahade lathuas will never understand.
iwitness said
Hello Barun bhai……..been a long time since I heard from you as there seems to be no communication from your side,apart from the feedback on Telangana and Nepal political scenario your blog seems very subdued.What’s the problem?Something seems to be amiss.
Regards.
J T M said
What is a parnami Chhetri?
Tattu said
Dd,
La ta parnami, pahade lathua haru ko majhma tah nathe euta budhimani ayechas. kaha bata utpati bhayeko hola??
dd said
lol,
i like ypur attitude
Tattu said
Huncha Budhhimani! Bhayankar timi parnami!!
mozo said
Dear barun,
Greetings to you.yaar, i have posted few comments to you about the Darpan postings before,but it seems like you did not find time to read them.Yaar,i’m not being able to find most of the pages of Darpan for quite some time now.So, my request to you is fix this problem(post of Himalaya Darpan)once and for all,please.
And today’s(22/07/08) Darpan is not even opening.
Kiran Lama said
Greetings Barun,
Though I am orignially from Kathmandu – now settled in Gangtok – am an avid visitor to Darjeeling and have made many wonderful friends over the years in that beautiful hill station.
Your blog is the easily the best and most informative on what is happening in the hills in north bengal.
Keep up the good work! Please let me know anytime you plan a trip to Gangtok or for that matter anywhere in Sikkim.
Much regards,
Kiran
Luen said
My deepest condolences to the family of Ms. Pramila Sharma, let not her death be a sacrifice in vain for a better cause.
SHE IS ONE BRAVE GORKHA AND WE SHOULD SALUTE HER MEMORY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Luen Lama
mozo said
hi barun,
greeetings to you
man i could not find today’s Darpan,yaar.
could you pliz update it?
thanks and regards
mahesh
mozo said
i was rong,barun.i found it.sorry to bother you.
hey mate,you deleted all my comments to JTM,may i know y?
how can i now reply to him coz i don’t find one from him either.
mozo said
it was just an incident,man
even if i die during these times while on a procession of GJMM,i’d be called a Saheed.
but i don’t think i’ve done anything worth to be honored as a Saheed.
these days it’s somewhat become a fashion.
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun,
Have you closed down the post for Darjeeling Burns..as I wanted to post some comments..??
Regards,
Nisha
barunroy said
Dear Miss Tamang,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Due to excessive abuse and the sheer number of comments on the post (causing severe strain on the server), the said forum had to be closed.
Regs
Barun
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun,
Thanks!
Actually I got hold of Raja and Rubin at different post..so I have posted my comment..so me feeling light as a feather..
I am sorry for the past abuses..but again I too have used (no too the extent of getting banned)some real abusive words..but this is a promise..will be my last one..as such I expect forgiveness from your side..
Thanks again!
Nisha
Petrisha lama said
Dear Barun Da,
I came through your site while surfing various other sites and found it very interesting specially i liked the collection of the books you have authored and would like to buy Potraits of life, Dream Flowers and Fallen Cicada will it be avaiable in book stores of sikkim as i am from gangtok and unfortunately this time i am not visiting Darjeeling,If yes i would like to know the names of the stores.I will be there from 9th August till 24th August.Or if theres anyother means that you can do me a favour.
with sincere reagards
Petrisha Lama
barunroy said
Dear Miss Lama,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Thank you for your interest in my books. The books are at this moment not available in Sikkim. How ever you can order it online through The Himalayan Beacon. If you are interested please let me know. Fallen Cicada is presently available in DVD format. You can find the prices of the books on this site.
Regs
Barun
Midnight Oil said
Dear Nisha, JTM Di, Adree Di, Yam Da,
“Don’t wrestle with pigs, because you just get dirty and the pigs like it.”
Regards,
Bishal Rai ‘Kirath’
rubin said
So here is all where “Gud” people meet and Nisha starts her apologies….gud…
RAJA said
@Nisha,
Wht’s up sister Nisha!!!! what you had written to me?? I’m not finding those post (mostly they are already deleted) …by d way anything wrong from me!!!….I didn’t think I have written anything bad to you …so what’s the reason of your anmoity towards me??
Pemsang_D said
The recent acts violence of the GJM aginst its former partners in the GNLF sets at rest all doubt about the real agenda of the GJM. The GJM basically wants power to be consolidated in its hands and does not believe in democracy. Leave aside any other opinion or view regarding the composition of the hill state, it does not even want any competition from its former party GNLF.
These power hungry people masquerading as leaders of the hill people and their goondas are supposed to provide leadership to the proposed new seperate state… We should beware of such elements before they grow big.
The hill people certainly deserve better than such criminals and lumpens.
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Barun,
How are you?
I am intetested in monthly subscription of Darjeeling times in English Edition- hard copy to be delivered at New Delhi?
Can you please help me in that?
Regards
Joseph Chamling
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Barun,
How are you?
I am interested in monthly subscription of Darjeeling times in English Edition- hard copy to be delivered at New Delhi?
Can you please help me in that?
Regards
Joseph Chamling
dd said
@Pemsang
I agree with what you say and this is what i have been shpouting in this blog for long, evry few people have understood what i have tried to say, infact none, they think if u speak against GJM u r speking against our own kind and our own homeland, but they fail to understand that GJM after all is a politcal party and nothing else, they have hidden intentions and hidden agenda , which very few people will understand, if this was the need of the people why did they need a match stick like Bimal gurung, why wasnt this need seen oini the normal people before he started this confused and fruitless war against our own people. meaning less demands i believe.
Barun why dont u pout some light into it, but heyu beware , ur there in Darjeeliong and if u write anything against the party you will be attacked as the way u have been earlier. And when u die you will get nothign else but few khadas and condolences and nothing else.
Jai gorkha
(without the feeling of patriotism towards GJM)
aksh said
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/contact-me-2/post.php?action=edit&post=5422 link not working ya
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Chamling,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
I have sent details on your request at your mail.
Regs
Barun
ardnepuhb said
First thing I do each day is to log onto this website. Good job, keep it up.
One complaint: Why do you post all your pictures in gif format. Using gif for photographic images is such a blunder. You should use jpg, the picture quality would be much better and you wont get the dotty images that you get by using a photo image as gif file. Oh, the file size would be much lower as well.
Keep the beacon shining.
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you very much for you support and participation. I will most definitely start posting pictures in JPG format from now on. Thank you for pointing out the flaws of the GIF format.
Regs
Barun
Laird said
ANATOMY OF BENGALI LIBERALS
Educated and Westernized Bengalis take pride in their Liberal beliefs. They often go out of their way to argue on behalf of those who are harming the whole group – so long as individuals they are left alone. This is really an expression of physical COWARDICE and GREED. By championing the illegitimate Gurkhaland agitation Burung Rai has shown himself to be one such “Bengali” liberal. And his motivation ? He evidently wants to live in Darjeeling, in spite of being a half – Bengali – and use the publicity / notoriety that association with the Gurkhaland AGITATION brings to his website to make a few bucks selling his half – baked books.
J T M said
Laird
You are being remembered in Anti Gorkhaland…something about Nisha and you
RAJA said
ha ha ha….do it fast…
rubinn said
Barun..thnks a lot for this site…felt gud alwys…i want 2 buy some of ur books…but i am in uk temporarily..so i think it wud be prident to get it once i am back in india….god bless u and carrii on the gud work of reprting unbiased
RAJA said
Rubinn you can buy books written by Mr. Barun Roy from “amazon.com”…the following books are now available ….you can place your order:
1.A Continent in Change: Thirty Years of the Asian Development Bank
2.Beginner’s Guide to Journalism
3.Slim, and Smart Body
reg,
R
it is a online purchase platform like rediffshopping.com in india…..
GN_Citizen said
it might shock u,
but we (my family) are Kumaon Bahun(Hill Brahmin) and my gr8 grandfather is from Dunagiri,Kumaon and we still have our house there!
naresh chettri said
Hi Barun,
I hope you remember me. I would like to congratulate you on all your achievements. Keep it up dude! I m really proud to be your friend. God Bless.
rubin said
thanks RAja..wil do..:)
DEV said
HI
Sir how r u ? i need help from u, im in delhi know doing job with smal pvt co. but my son is in tea garden with hes grand father & mother they cant help to my son for any study then i want to put hem to the any bording school in siliguri and but i dont have any idea and i can expen for hem every year 30 – 40 thousand so plz help me for that plz send the reply to my mail ID THANX.
regard
DEV
PPA said
Dear Barun – could you please delete the following posts on this blog – 43, 49 & 61 on
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/gjm-asks-us-to-quit-party-says-cpi-m-minister/#comment-15802
and 131 on http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/save-the-gorkhas/
It contains personal info that i shall be more careful in divulging in the future.
Thanks
PPA
PJ said
Dear Barun,
What are the services offered by Roytech India pvt ltd? I cannot find any info on the net.
barunroy said
Dear PJ,
Roytech India Pvt Ltd is a small company that I formed in 2001. The idea was to market IT enabled educational tools in the Indian market. However, due to lack of investment, the company has be in the doldrums for a long time now.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
Dear Barun,
I understand, I will definately make it a point to meet y
PJ said
Will make it a point to meet you when i am Darjeeling.
Keep up the go
rubin said
http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/travel/29heads.html?ref=travel
aardee said
Barun,
Don’t short sell your blog…your rates are too low…ek zero aur add karo everywhere
aardee said
I meant ad rates I just checked the advertise on Beacon button.
DarZ said
hi barun da
I really appreciate what u r doing to all the gorkhalies who r far away from darjeeling..thank u for tht..but nowadays i see more news of Nepal rather than Darjeeling….I would be happier to see news of Darjeeling rather than Nepal…
Joseph Chamling said
Barun,
I came across these nice pictures while surfing
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://oldmhs.com/Darjeeling_Bazaar.jpg&imgrefurl=http://oldmhs.com/older_darjeeling.htm&h=333&w=488&sz=61&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=07EitMuH74TUBM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddarjeeling%2Broad%2Bin%2Bforest%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
all darjeeling photos
Have a look
Thanks
Joseph Chamling
ardnepuhb said
Hi Barun,
I use firefox mostly but it seems that posting comments does not work with it. After clicking the Submit Comment button, the page refreshes, but the comment is not entered. I am using IE to post this comment after trying and trying from firefox.
Joseph Chamling said
sorry for being in wrong column but this is good news
World champion Abhinav Bindra claimed the first ever individual gold for India to win the men’s 10m air rifle event at the Beijing Olympics.
Nisha Tamang said
Dear Mr. Barun, JTMdi, Ardee di, Yam daju, Mr. Joseph, PJ, Theba, Pramesh, PPA, Benoni and the rest..
WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
The last time I celebrated India’s Independence was during the year 1995..while I was in standard 12..we had performed a group Nepali dance..asti bharkhar ko kura jasto lagcha..
but I do really miss those days..
Love and Regards,
Nisha Tamang
barunroy said
Dear Miss Tamang,
Thank you very much. I hope that Indian-Nepalese solidarity lives on and both learn to respect each other as equal partners in Global Consciousness.
Long Live India!
Long Live Nepal!
Long Live Indo-Nepalese Friendship!
aardee said
Nisha thanks for the Independence Day wishes…here’s hoping your country’s President gets elected soon!
Goes without saying that people from Nepal that have stood by and continue to stand by us and have helped to protect our country’s borders…I salute them too!
PJ said
Dear Barun,
There were a couple of requests i had for you yesterday under ‘Save The Gorkhas’ page yesterday, maybe you missed it, i wanted to inquire if a seperate page can be made available for the music album performed by Gorkhas as the posts on the same might create confusions if both the topics are combined. Also as i requested earlier, can both of these topics have permanent links? I would really appreciate if you could kindly acknowledge this query. thank you & best regards, PJ
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Pj,
I am sorry that I did not reply to you yesterday. I must have missed your comment. Yes, we can have a separate page for Music Album I will do that tomorrow and also give it a permanent link. And we do have a permanent link already for Save the Gorkhas Project.
Regs
Barun
PJ said
Dear Barun,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply, btw, daya garera moh sanga formal na huwana sathi hai? G’nite brother.
Regards,
Pranavesh
AK Rai said
Dear Barun
I have forwarded an email having an enquiry notice for circulation and public notice. please get it from your personal email. PREVIOUSLY I had sent a few mails too.
Arun K Rai
Kalimpong
Joseph Chamling said
Dear Nisha Baini,
Thank you for your kind wishes. Sorry had been very busy off late. Now writing after good days lull.
Take care
Joseph
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Rai,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I am extremely sorry that I could not contact you earlier and even thank you. I am busy working on a Documentary – Darjeeling Hills and since we have to complete it within 25th of August, I am seemingly quiet desperate. I will send you the article in time. Please do forgive me for my imprudences.
Regs
Barun
jwalahang said
Dear Mr Roy,
Today’s “Himalayan Darpan” has reported the death of a 5/11 Gorkha Rifles,Rfn Mahendra Rai of Darjeeling in an encounter with the militants in Jammu ,but I am surprised to find that this fallen hero has not even found a small place in your blog.
Regards,
Jwalahang
Communicator said
Hahahaah Dear Jwalahang,
Do u thimk barun has timeto report all this after working hard to promote his half baked books and his own name……lolz u must ne kidding about it ,,,,,,,,hahahahahahaha
parivesh said
dear owner
i request you to edit the post that are posted in “http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/historical-british-map-showing-darjeeling-in-nepal/” as many have written aggresive thing and antislogan about one other’s country. this may create dispute in their mind and may case long term effect. for i request you to delete such type of posted material.
regard
parivesh
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Keep up the good journalist work that you are involved in.
Regards
Luen lama
Silgarhi,Dooars,Bhaktinagar said
Raghav,
That’s a good piece of news. Now you must have some people to put in our views to the world.
Just registering the domain name may not be enough.
AK Rai said
Dear Barun
The CD (3discs) of 12th aug programme is ready , how can I send it to you?
We can send it by any Kalimpong Motor syndicate taxi. Can yiu send someone to pick it up from the syndicate. If so please inform me. Otherwise do you have any students of Kalimpong who come home during the weekend? please inform me. I lost your phone number, so pliz give me ur cell no too.
Regards
Arun K Rai
thulungakrai@gmail.com
or
Kalimpongporessclub@gmail.com
Mine is 9434131719
jytmkh said
Arun sir,
Please keep a copy for me too. I will be visiting kalimpong soon and will pick up or u can give a set to my place at Kpg.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Rai,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I hope you are doing well. Since University Examinations are going I have been very busy. I would love to watch the cds and especially at our college since we are making a digital library for Department of Mass Communication. You could send it to the Kalimpong Motor Syndicate Taxi and I will send someone to pick it up. Please do let me know that you have sent it.. you can email me… I will be online most of the time.
Please also read the email that I have sent you. They contain some confidential matters and urgent at that.
I hope all is well. Keep the flame burning.
Regs
aardee said
Barun,
Congratulations I just noticed u’re blog is over the 4L mark in terms of visitors! Wah wah!
Communicator said
NOw Nepali dress ha,
hahahahahahahahahahaha very funny, gorkhalis or nepalis what is it Barun p[lz help me out m very confuzed here, who are we neplai’s or Gorkhali’s , why dont we haev a nepali dress, If i remember well , it was the britishers who gave us the name” GORKHALIS” otherwise naplai and gorkhalis is the same , whom are we trying to fool, today bepali dress, tomorrow u will aks all those non nepalis to wear nepali dress, to forget their cultutre to adopt to naplai ways, to speak in nepali , ha, very fnny, why does BImal gurung just shut his mouth and enjoy allthe monye he has got, he is taking Rs 300 from all the govt employees who are of lower rank and Rs 500 from those who are of higher rank, man where is this money going, and why the “F” is he asking that , who gave him the right , this is extorting , and forcefull, what is he trying to prove, that u just have to be a naplai o churn outn hard earned money form all the people of the hills.
Dinesh Jain said
Dear Barun,
Hello,
The Graphic Designer, a graduate from NID Ahmedabad
Ms.Jyoti thapa
is a friend known to me could you please provide me
her contact numbers or email address
I will be highly obliged
-Dinesh Jain
thanking you
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Jain,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
You request will be directly posted to Ms Jyoti Thapa Mani. It is upon her to contact you.
Regs
Barun
RAJA said
Dear Joseph Chamling,
This is raja here. Dear friend I have also read your all blogs for last 3 months and you are also a sensible person what I like most…..I dont know I will get opportunity to visit Delhi in near future or not….but if I get a chance then surely I will contact you….Ohh yes I was in delhi for 1 yr in 2002-03 and like that city and delhi peoples, specially JAAT type hindi pronounciation….friend you can contact me
Thank you.
regards,
Raja
Joseph Chamling said
Hi Raja,
I have just mailed you in your email id
Cheers
Lets remain in touch
Take`care
Joseph
inhk said
Hi Barun,
I have been following the trial of the 14 GNLF councillors and supporters very intently, as my father is one of the accused.
Today we found out he had been on hunger strike for already 24 hours. Apparently Deepak Tamang has been on hunger strike for 3 days.
My father is 70 years old and diabetic, and for him to be on hunger strike is very grave.
We know only one fact, that Pramila Sharma was shot. Apart from that we know nothing. So far the media has been calling them murderers. How do they know that? My father was not even at the place of the shooting. His only crime; being a GNLF supporter.
So far, the GJMM has threaten any lawyers that the group has tried to hire. No one will defend them as they are afraid for themselves and family. Is this the Gorkhaland we want. Do we want a Gorkhaland borne out of intimidation and anachy??
They are not going to get a fair trial when there is a mob braying for their blood. Do these woman (majority of the mob) get paid to stand outside the jail and hurl insults? Do they really know who shot the fatal blow? Do they even care?
Yes, it was tragic that such a young woman was killed and justice should prevail. But how can it, when the accused have been judged and hanged already by the mob?
Where are the decent, educated, sensible people of Darjeeling? Those who can see through intimidation and lies of the GJMM.
I don’t live in Darjeeling, I left when I was a little, but have come back very often to see my family. I love Dajeeling and it’s people.
If anything should happen to my father, rest assured I will
forever blame not just the GJMM but the people of Darjeeling.
inhk said
Sorry, that should have been Deepak Gurung in the above article not Deepak Tamang. My apologies again.
Communicator said
@INKH
Dear Friend, my sincere concern is with you, its very hard to imagine a world without ournparents, i knwo ths might be one of the works of the GJMM themselves, we dont know and will never know, remember mr PRadhan being killed right in the middle of the market, Rudra Pradhan i am talking about , he was the first one to go against the will of the GNLF, he won the elections from takbar but again was killed the same day, i reemebr we all were celbrating in gorkha bhawan in delhi when we heard this news, can u believe his son was also tehre wiht us, think what he had to go through, ALl the gnlf ppl have done immense worng to the people of darjeeling, more to the non nepalis , i dont call them gorkhas as there is nothing called gorkha its just the same , whom are they orn we fooling ha, we are all nepalis, its just a political gimmick and a propoganda and bimal gurung is enjoying his life, taking advantage of the same, as the gnlf ppl had done, villages like rimbick , lodhama, goke , harshinghatta, bijanbari, which was supposed to be a house for the red flag, all houses were burnt,peple killed, now then gnlf hasd to pay back , and tomorrow someone else will come up wiht a new party adn a new ahenda then GJMm will pay, so this will go on, we are pahades and we dont understand much we think not from the brina but fromthe heart , that is why we are fooled by the likes of ghising and now gurung, cheerrs to all men there , go on go ahead fool urself as much as u can, at the end of the day its the common man who is loosing every thing, not the leaders , he has to fear nothing as he is a goon, murders and extortion is something bimal gurung is very good at.and he does it the best, cheerrs to bimal gurung.
ardnepuhb said
Hello Barun bhai. I made a few posts recently saying that I could not get gorkhapedia to open. This is the third day and it still didn’t open but I think I have finally figured out what the problem is.
I’m in kathmandu and use mostly Worldlink (an isp) for internet. I thought something might be wrong as only I was having problems gettting the page to open so just now I tried using a Mercantile (another isp) connection. It opened! So I think people using Worldlink are not able to acces. The worst part is that Worldlink is one of the most popular isp here.
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Ardnepuhb,
Greetings from Darjeeling. Gorkhapedia.org should work with any isp. I think you should accept cookies on your browser. Depending on your browser you can accept cookies by doing the following:
Mozilla Firefox (1.0 final release and earlier)
* Go to the “Tools” menu.
* Select “Options”.
* Select the “Privacy” icon in the left panel.
* Check the box corresponding to “Allow sites to set cookies”.
* Click “OK” to save changes.
Netscape 7.1/Mozilla 5.0
* Select “Preferences” from the Edit menu.
* Click on the arrow next to “Privacy & Security” in the scrolling window to expand.
* Under “Privacy & Security”, select “Cookies.”
* Select “Enable all cookies”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0+
* Select “Internet Options” from the Tools menu.
* Click on the “Privacy” tab.
* Click the “Default” button (or manually slide the bar down to “Medium”) under “Settings”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.x
* Select “Internet Options” from the Tools menu.
* Click on the “Security” tab.
* Click the “Custom Level” button.
* Scroll down to the “Cookies” section.
* To enable:
o Set “Allow cookies that are stored on your computer” to “Enable”.
o Set “Allow per-session cookies” to “Enable”.
* Click “OK”.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.x
* Select “Internet Options” from the View menu.
* Click on the “Advanced” tab.
* Scroll down to find “Cookies” within the “Security” section.
* To enable:
o Select “Always accept cookies”.
* Click “OK”.
Netscape Communicator 4.x
* Select “Preferences” from the Edit menu.
* Find the “Cookies” section in the “Advanced” category.
* To enable:
o Select “Accept all cookies” (or “Enable all cookies”).
* Click “OK”.
It should work now. If you have any more problem, please let me know.
Regs
Barun
ardnepuhb said
Hi Barun, thanks for your suggestions but I doubt it has anything to do with cookies. If I switch my connection to Mercantile I have no problems opening the page. I mostly use Wordlink and it just doesn’t open on it. So every time I want to view gorkhapedia I have to switch over to the mercantile connection.
I sent an email to worldlinks support yesterday and today i got a reply telling me to try again (as if they had done some changes) but I’m still getting the same problem. I’ve written back. Lets see what they have to say.
Communicator said
IS THERE any existence of any community under the nomenclature of Gorkha in India? Was there any state with the same title in India in its thousand years of existence?
History says – no, but corroborates that once there was a small state called Gorkha beyond India-Nepal border that still exists as a small district in Nepal.
Gorkhaland was never in any part of India and thus, the claim for Darjeeling in West Bengal to be transformed into a separate state, namely Gorkhaland, and a movement whether democratic or militant for it, is bound to go ashtray.
If anybody or any organisation has any claim for a Gorkha state, he or they will have to visit Gorkha town, the district headquarters, situated on the hilly tracks between Pokhra and Kathmandu. The exact location of the land is 25 kms north of Kathmandu – Pokhra highway via Abu Kairani. The Gorkha, a hilly terrain is famous for its natural beauty and historical elements. One can find here the fort of the Shah kings, palace and Kali temple. The palace has in it the throne of the King Prithvi Narayan Shah who established the greater Nepal after capturing the Kathmandu Valley. The great king is still shown respect by burning a lamp in his memory and achievements known as Eternal Lamp on the fourth floor of the palace. The lamp is never put off and has been burning since the inception of greater Nepal.
The movement for separate Gorkhaland in Darjeeling, the only hill state of West Bengal, was initiated by Gorkha National Liberation Front (GNLF) in ’80s. This was completely a militant movement. It found a happy ending with the formation of Gorkha Hill Council, under chairmanship of Subhas Ghising. But the situation took a serious turn when a breakaway group of GNLF under the leadership of Bimal Gurung formed a new forum, Gorkha Janamukti Morcha, and started fresh movement for a separate Gorkhaland. They ousted Subhas Ghising from Darjeeling Hills, burnt several houses of GNLF leaders, while silencing the CPI(M) leaders and workers. They introduced ’home rule’ denying law of the land. However, GJM leaders claimed that they are on democratic path.
However, whatever may be the nature of the movement, every movement for Gorkhaland on the soil of India is illegitimate, considering the the historical background of the very word Gorkha and a place of the same name in Nepal.
Gorkha was a separate neighbouring state of Kathmandu Valley. The people living there introduce themselves as Gorkhali. They, according to the British commanders were very courageous in any situation and are as a whole a loyal community. They were “bravest of the braves, most generous of generous, and faithful friends” as introduced by Prof Turner in his book ’The Gurkha Soldier’. The state was one of the 50 separate states ruled by the kings. Prithvi Narayan Shah was the king of Gorkha which was a state of 250 square kilometer. Later in 1768 when the king won the battle with Kathmandu Valley and other states and established greater Nepal in 1802, Gorkha was given the status of a district. Now the Gorkha district is spread over 3,610 square kilometres. Population counts to nearly three lakhs.
However, with the influx in immigration, a good number of Nepalis entered India before India became independent. A section of them were known as Gorkha for some unknown reason. On January 26, 1950, all of them were declared as Indian citizens. This is a mystery when in India there were no Gorkha and Gorkhaland, how did the Indian government announced that Gorkhas are also Indian citizen! Later the very word Gorkha was also included with the Gorkha Hill Council.
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During the British regime, a military regiment was created with the people living in Gorkha district in Nepal and other Nepalis as well. It was named as Gurkha Regiment and not as Gorkha Regiment of the Indian Army. Later the Gurkhas got scattered such that now they can even be traced to Gurkha Rifles in Great Britain, Gurkha Reserve Force in Brunei and The Gurkha Contingent in Singapore, to name a few. History says that the people of Gorkha are Nepalis but Nepalis are not always Gorkhas because there was never any community by this name in India as the place Gorkha was not in India but in Nepal.
Thus, the Gorkhaland movement on Indian soil loses its sanctity.
So whosoever calls him a gorkhali , go back to napal, india is not the place for you all, india is for the indians not for the gorkhas, get lost
Joseph Chamling said
First you BD immigrant @ communicator, you first go back to you place.
Joseph Chamling said
First you BD immigrant @ Communicator, you first go back to your place.
PPA said
Communicator -(or the lack of it – thus Mis communicator)
Go Back to School. Learn the following subjects.
Civics and Political History
India became a sovereign democratic republic (thats Civics for you) in 1947.
Math.
1947 – 2008 = 61 years. I dont know where you got 1000 years from.
I am glad you know something about the origin of the word Gorkha. Thank you for sharing that with us. It begins to get redundant when you proclaim common knowledge of the Gorkhaland movement with such a flourish as if you were explaining this to a child.
“However, whatever may be the nature of the movement, every movement for Gorkhaland on the soil of India is illegitimate, considering the the historical background of the very word Gorkha and a place of the same name in Nepal.”
It gets downright annoying when you make preposterous claims and display copious quantities of ignorance with such unbridled arrogance. If just the term Gorkha would prevent the creation of Gorkhaland, there are countless ways in which i can ridicule your argument but, let me ask you, since Sikkim was never a part of India – not before 1975 – and certainly not in your fictional 1000 years – how can Sikkimese be legitimate citizen’s of India?
I think its too tedious to read and reply your post point for point – so, i will stop here. please make more intelligeble argument and statements if you dont want to run the risk to being branded an “idiot with a big mouth” in this blog.
Oh – you need to learn to spell as well.
YK Shrestha said
Bangladeshi Ass, go back to ur country Bangladesh! You rats!
JTM said
“IS THERE any existence of any community under the nomenclature of Gorkha in India? Was there any state with the same title in India in its thousand years of existence?
History says – no, but corroborates that once there was a small state called Gorkha beyond India-Nepal border that still exists as a small district in Nepal. ”
From me:
Memeorial to the 1814 Battle of Nalapani between Gorkha rule and British invaders. Under ASI (archaelogical survey of India)
1)History of Gorkha rule on Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh. Check their history books.
2)Gorkha castles in HP (check internet)
3) Gangotri temple made by Gorkha General Amar Singh Thapa
4) Chail Palace hotel, HP. Check their hotel brochure…the arae was under the Gorkhas
5) Arki Palace Shimla. Check their hotel brochure: This palace was the headquarters of Gorkha Commander Amar Singh Thapa
6)Kangra Fort history and signboard under ASI: Under siege by Gorkha Commander Amar Singh Thapa
7)HP and Uttarkahnd, The GORKHAS are a bonfide race who have been the OBC status
BIGGEST PROOF OF GORKHAS IN INDIA
The history of India’s 1st Gorkha Rifles:
The regiment was raised from the Gorkha army at Malaun (HP) after the Anglo-Gorkha Battle of Malaun 1815. With 5 Battalions, the first Gorkha Rifles till date begins its history from Malaun (HimachalPradesh) and Amar Singh Thapa. Today the Regiment of the 1st and 4th GR are centred in Subathu.
Bonafide Gorkha villages in Dharamshala,Dehradoon. No family entered from Nepal since 200 years of land revenue records.
Need more proofs I can wrote 10,000 more words to the effect.
JTM said
I would like everyone to keep mind of this:
All the 7 Gorkha regiments owe their existence to the Battle of Malaun 1815. THe British troops headed by their Genral David Ochetyrlony attcked Gorkha troops under General Amar Singh Thapa who was headquartered in this region under the gorkha rule Malaun is in Himachal Pradesh today near Solan. The war is known as the Anglo-GORKHA wars.
The First Gorkha Rifles was formed from the Gorkha troops here. In 1815, two were called the Nasiri Battalion(friendship) battalion and the third was called Sirmour (a district in HP) Battalion. IN 1850, the Nasiri Gorkhas was named 66 Goorkha Infantry further named The First Gorkha Rifles in 1860, at which time the battalion was settled in Dharamshala. In 1960, the 1st and 4th GR was shifted to tehir present home in Subathu (HP).
Therefore the Indian Gorkha Regiments is the PROOF there were entities called Gorkhas were always here and in power!
JTM said
The second biggest proof of GORKHAS as an extension of Indian cultural history is BABA GORAKHNATH. The word GORKHA comes from his followers. Baba Goraknath’s samadhi is in GORAKHPUR, UP.
The Gorkha ties with India and Indian history qualifies them to be considered as extensions of India. It is an unique case hence everyone is confused. BUt they cannot be called foreigners! Yes I would agree that Nepalese (Nepal citizens) are foreigners. BUt once a Neplaese becomes a Gorkha, he belongs to India also.
JTM said
Dear Barun my posts 269, 268 and 267 can go into your blog of who is a Gorkha?
inhk said
Communicator.
Thanks for your comments. I am sorry but I don’t really know much about the politics of GNLF or any other party. I only know that my father and 13 other innocent people are now in jail because the GJMM will not let a court hearing begin as no lawyers will take the case (of course these lawyers could also be in collusion with GJMM and probably were jailed by GNLF before, eye for an eye but like Mahatma Gandhi said “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Also BREAKING NEWS, the guard of Deepak Gurung has already confessed to shooting, fearing for his life. He has already given his statement to the police. Does the mob braying for blood outside the detention centre know this? Btw, how much do they get paid to scream insults and threats?
How come we haven’t heard about this in any newspaper??
Does Darjeeling still have justice or is the justice scared of Bimal Gurung and the GJMM. A very sad sad time for Darjeeling and democracy and justice.
PPA said
JTM – i have emailed you – please check it.
G chettri said
Communicator r u still around
jytmkh said
Inhk,
What is the name of your father who is arrested? in the first post you were mentioning Deepak Tamang and corrected to Gurung who seems to be your dad.Secondly, can you identify yourself so that we can believe that you are the true son of the jailed GNLF leader?
G chettri said
Communicator Sujit lay ramro pat paraia cha. feri go yay hera na. I hope communicator is not Sujit roy. Sujit roy lai calcutta hi court ma case file hudai cha for writing agianest the indian community trying bring devide between the communities
YK Shrestha said
Dear Bhai G Chettri, Is the news you ahve written about this moron Sujit true?
inhk said
Jytmkh,
Deepak Tamang, Deepak Gurung, I don’t know any of them. I just made a mistake which I then corrected. My father is not a councillor, he is just a supporter. I don’t want to say his name just yet as I am afraid the GJMM will harass my mother even more. She has already filed a complaint when they did the last time. I don’t want her to go through any more sufferings as she is alone and we (my sister and I) do not live in Darjeeling.
If GJMM are so sure that they are guilty, why are they not letting them have a trial or let them go to Siliguri for the trial. What are GJMM afraid of?
Btw, I am the daughter of one of the accused man, not a son.
G chettri said
Hajur YK daju too much of anti gorkhaland article with communal fringe, We must stop the nonsence, Keto haru lagi rehay ko cha, Hope fully High court bench will permit the case
G chettri said
mailay ta diwso hatar ma inhk lai respond garay ko communicator po bhaiacha
G chettri said
Dear Ms Inhk,
Jaisa karni waisa verni bancha ni yestai ho jindagi. Jo power ma cha usko ta huncha alik dagdi. Tapai ko papa lay bool garay ko cha bhanay danda nischai huncha, therefore prepare your family for the worst instead of trying to blacken GJMM
Joseph Chamling said
I think Chettriji
We need to reconsider above statement. specially last line.
Its her pain she is sharing in a hope to lessen her pain. If we go as GNLF or any other way, what difference it remains for us.
JTM said
Nasty
inhk said
G Chettri,
Trying to blacken GJMM?? I am only writing what I know to be the truth.
-Why are the lawyers scared to take the case?
-Why won’t they let the hearing take place?
-Why do they hire mobs to shout insults and threats?
These are the facts.
Can you give tell me otherwise?
My father and the majority of the accused were not even at the place of shooting. He was with Subash Ghising’s house. And you know what? There were policemen stationed at Subash Ghising’s house.
Innocent until proven guilty? Isn’t that the basic human right?
I don’t know if you live in Darjeeling, I don’t so I certainly don’t know what’s it like living there now. But from talking to my mother 3 or 4 times a day, I know that the situation is very tense there.
dina roy said
hi,
barun,
where did u meet anirban choudhury? he didn’t take responsibility of his doing,used and dumped one girl and ruined her life completely.then because of money,married to another girl.hope, only god can punish him.
Communicator said
Dear frinds , no use fighting wiht me , i just posted an article written by sujit rai, thew only mistake i did was forget to mention the same , none of the comments are mine, i copied and posted the article directly, any ways thats a thingof the past, i dont care what u think and what u say, i just wanted to clarify, it wasnt my opinion,
And about that girl who is scared of her fathers treatement, well she has to pay back, as we are supposed to act like that as we have been blind folded and mesmerisze dby the magic of bimal gurung so we will do whaqt he say,s i dont care if we get a state or not, hell do i? and the thing is even if we get a state , bimal gurung says that he is not asking this for himself, will he not be the chief minister and will not the gjmm party memeber sbe ministers in the state ministry oif the get it, will they stay away from elections if it really happens, ha kinda joke it is.
And friends dont lecture me about the oprigin and authenticity of Gurkha’s
wehy does it have to be proved if it is true, every one is trying very hard to proove it with their statements becauase it is not true at all. same like the tibetians and bhutias who have come to darjeeling and settledther e and have becopme the rigchest of the lot, look at mahakal market , owned by the bhutias, look at most of the shops in darjeeling owned by the tibetians and bhutias, look at it , your own Darjeeling is being sold y them , and u can do nothign about it , we nepalis have bto do small scres and earn our living, and opn top of that we have been discarded with the right ful right to ask for our rights, niow they have named us OBS . wow …………………………………….and hey we are happy about it , what a sad story……………
IU hate politics and i hate peop;le when they aren mislead by propogandas.
JTM said
Anirban, that ponytailed guy?
G chettri said
INHK
Hope your innocent father get justice. Well I heard that only the conspirator used be in SG house those days working on conspiracy to create voilence in the hills in order to topple the present regime but again I might be wrong. It looks like some of the sheep were mistakenly in wolf pack. But again my prayers with you that your family trauma to be over before dasai.
Joseph Chamling said
Chettri ji
Thanks!! thank you!!
G chettri said
Friend INHK,
I dont live in darjeeling but I know that situation is much more better than SG times, I lost more than 17 very close friend in GNLF GVC fiasco some of their mom still wait every evening for them to come home.
So it is not like that now agitation is much more peaceful every one can easily participate. If your pop was with SG than must be loyal brigade member of SG. accept the fact somewhere down the line some short of involvement must be there otherwise usually innocent people are not easily picked up by the police. Anyway good luck to you
Joseph Chamling said
Chettriji
With this (above comment) I respect you more, now.
Regards
Joseph
inhk said
G Chettri,
Thanks for your kind words.
Like I said before I have no idea of politics in Darjeeling now or before with GNLF.
My father’s fault was that he was too loyal to Subash Ghishing. He didn’t turn the other way like so many others. Isn’t that one of the best trait of a Gorkha??
Anyway, let us hope for a good outcome for the innocent men.
RAJA said
Except court no one have right to punish another person…..that’s law of India…..
JTM said
I dont know how Darj society is going live with the GNLF and GJMM scars
RAJA said
EVERYTHING WOULD BE OKIE WITH TIME …..
Luen said
COMMUNICATOR – lets get one thing straight and that is DON’T insult us no matter what you write or think that you know about our history of origin I beg to differ!! NO matter what the history or who says what WE ARE GORKHAS and proud to be what or who we are and have every right to be living in India which is our right of ABODE!!
I agree with Joe Chamling – GO BACK MY FRIEND FROM WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM!!!
Luen Lama
JTM said
In Dharamshala, the Tibetans are the richest people despite the refugee status. Will they ever go back lock stock and barrel if China takes them back? I doubt it. Big Tibetan monasteries dot the entire landscape. What will they do with them? Since they have discarded the bakku and started wearing the salwar-kameez now, They are mistaken to be Gorkha women. If any Gorkha looks affluent, they are mistaken to be Tibetans. Most of them have now become hostile and only welcome you if you have money to buy their goods or put in their Free Tibet donation boxes. They are only pally with the ‘whites’. Maybe the frustrations of last 40 odd years of being in limbo. They boss over the locals whom they seduce with money, but are only scared of Gorkha boys.
DO, start yr brickbats on me
Luen said
JTM,
What you have written is so very true and I support every word and agree with you whole heartedly!!!
Once the funds are low in the community then the marches start for ‘Free Tibet’ and of course the gullible whites start to pour in their donations.
These people came in as refugees and they get the best treatment compared to us Indians, they get preferences when they sit for various public and government exams why should this be the case?? when our own boys and girls don’t get the advantages they get in all spheres of life in India when they are considered Refugees – I say send them back if they want to go to Tibet.
Good on you JTM
L. Lama
M. Ahmed said
Dear Barun Dada,
Its’ indeed a pleasure knowing lots about your contribution to the Gorkha community in Darj.You certainly deserves loads of appreciation.
The site you launched is richly informative no doubt.
Anyways, let me introduce myself in brief, I am Ahmed, a Bangladesh national studied in St.Joseph’s College, Darjeeling during 1986-89 and earned my Honours Degree in Economics. Ever since I left Darj I was literally in dark about the place I spent so long. The time that we passed those years was kind of nightmare, Gorkhaland agitation was in its peak; the real essence of Darj was missing. Now when Darj has got back to her normal I am miles away isn’t that sad?
I sincerely wish to visit your place at least once before I go back to UK this winter. Meanwhile, I need to read all your books people were mentioning about in the blog i.e. FALLEN CICADA, DREAM FLOWER etc. Do you think I can get them online if having e-version or the hard copy by post ? I would rather prefer regular version of your books for enriching my personal collection. Any cost involved is payable.
Thanks to you from deep down inside to make me feel nostalgic about the place, my friends, the Taxi Driver Daju of Singmari line and to top it all, the people of Darjeeling I missed so long. I guess I will no longer miss Darj, thanks to your web site and books once again.
With best regards,
M. Ahmed
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Cell: 880-1671134388
barunroy said
Dear Mr. M. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I am extremely sorry that I could not reply to you immediately. In these few months there have been simply too many things to do and I have not been able to respond to friends immediately. Please do forgive me for that. I am really happy that you wrote from Bangladesh and shared your love for Darjeeling. Darjeeling is really such a place which wins over people’s heart. Everything is fine here, in fact with the Durga Puja festivals coming up and the entire hills being decked in ethnic drapes I think we will have one of the best festivals this time. It is good to learn that you are also a St. Joseph’s guy, so am I. The college has changed a lot presently and has been offering excellent academic and career oriented programmes, though I will have to confess I have not been to the college myself for last six years. But I do like to keep track of what is happening there.
As for the books, please do send me you address and I will send you the books. You need not pay but I would love it if you could send me a book on the history of Bangladesh. Lets say it would be kind of an international exchange of books between friends. That way we can know more about each other. Darjeeling and Bangladesh shares a lot of History by the way, you will know of them in Fallen Cicada. Any time you would want to come to Darjeeling, please let me know. I would love to meet you. Thats all for now.
Please do accept my best wishes and regards,
Regs
Barun
M. Ahmed said
Dear Barun Dada,
Thank you so much for your response.
Appreciated.
I am waiting for the books to reach me asap, can’t wait till read them.
As for Bangladesh History books You are getting one soon. Any thing more you need pls fell free……..
This is the month of Ramadan ( month of fasting and rituals followed by Eid) here. This year we are fortunate enough to have both Eid and Durga Puja together at almost the same time.
I still remember when in North Point, going with other students and Singmari mates to local houses down the hill and singing “Dausurey” during puja. One more thing I thought of mentioning to you since you too are the ex- North Pointer..is like St. Joseph’s Alumi Association. Do you have any idea about that?
Thank you once again for doing so much for us. Your work will certainly bring about certain change towards exposing Darjeeling to international communities in a positive fashion.
Regards
Raj said
Deal all
For God sack please support Gurungji, who is leading the show for good cause “Gorkhaland), leave your selfeish comment and story behind.
Thanks
RAJ (UK)
Yonze said
It’s very easy for a person who stays far away in U.K and shout that way.
By the way you might be the one from Rohini dialing for Canada.
You supported, that’s great. Thanks.
Silgarhi,Dooars,Bhaktinagar said
I have always been against the Tibetan Refugees being given the ST status. Pray, why? How come they are given this privilege when even the Ladakhis and Lahaulis are fighting for ST status. The ways of GOI is very very confusing. Did u guys know that the Ladakhis and Lahaulis are not ST??
Pranay Ray said
Thank you Mr. Barun Roy for potraying my article in your blog……….the article “fm channels faces revenue crisis”.
sincierly yours
Pranay Ray
M. Ahmed said
Barun Da,
Have you read my little mesg there at book section?
M Ahmed
INSOMNIACRETURNS said
Dear Barun Roy
Please start a thread /topic in this blog through which we can wish Happy Dasain/ Durga Puja /pujo to our near and dear ones! and consequently we’ll send the link to same respective pple.
Regards
from B’lore
JTMagar said
Dear Barun
Pl attach the news item ‘Gurkhas can stay in UK, says court’
TOI October1 with a picture of actress Joanna Lumley. Thank you, good wishes, Jyoti didi
Anita said
Dear friend Barun,
I just love your amazing photos from the Fulpati Celebrations in Darjeeling! How nice to see the people so relaxed and happy. Wish we were there and able to join in. Then to be able to listen to the temple bells and also to some people talking in the background. How marvellous and so are you Barun
. Here we have a beautiful sunny day in the middle of autumn. It is
+ 10C degrees and I will go out picking mushrooms in the forrest close to our home. Tomorrow I will go and help my old mother, who feels much better nowadays. Maybe thanks to your earlier prayers? My husband also send his best regards. Please, take good care of yourself and your family. Enjoy the celebrations!
Your friend Anita
barunroy said
Dear Anita,
Greetings from Darjeeling! And thank you for your kind words. The celebrations here have just started and will go on till the Tihar Festivals which is also known as the Festival of Lights. These are actually the best time to visit Darjeeling Hills. People sing, dance and are dressed in their ethnic best. By the Lord’s Grace, peace is back and humanity is aglore with happiness. I too wish you were here. I could have taken you around and we could have join in the celebrations. Oh, how I curse myself for not having been able to meet you and your husband. But alas, I will meet you again and be able to welcome you in Darjeeling Hills. It is really great to have a friend like you.
I am really happy about your mother who is feeling well. I also imagine tagging along with you while you go to pick mushrooms in the forest how beautiful must it be there during this time of the year. If you get time please do me a favour and send me some pictures. I would love to keep them for my personal collections. Thank you for your kind words for whenever I am down and feeling sad they make me feel warm and good. Please give my deepest regards to your mother and your husband. And please do also accept my best wishes.
May the Lord God, be always with you and your dear ones.
Your friend
Barun
bibek said
Dear Barun Ji,
It there some way where you could merge all the news from Nepal into a idfferent section? I am sorry to have asked you this eventhough it is your personal blog. I and I hope many people are interested in news of Darjeeling and India and the news from Nepal honestly embedded between the news of Darjeeling and other parts of India is very distracting.
Just a suggestion though.
Regards,
Bibek
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Bibek,
Greetings from Darjeeling! Please do accept my best wishes and regards. I hope you are doing well.
I do understand how you are feeling. Basically, I do not try to mix up the news and as per the region from which the originate. However, since the basic idea being to incorporate news as and when they occur or are published, sometimes they tend to get mixed up. That is a couple of news from Nepal, some from Sikkim and the rest from Darjeeling Hills. Some days, articles from Himachal and Assam also make their way. This might be disturbing to readers who are interested only in news from specific region but the fact remains that the hotch-potch of news from across the region and the world signifies everything taking place in the world Gorkha/Nepali wise. It does spice up the Blog.
One of the biggest ambitions of this blog is the unification of all Gorkhas and Nepalese in an intellectual plane, I guess this is in many ways intended to achieve that.
However, still, I will try to come up with a better layout where readers can find immediately whatever they are interested. Do bear with me for a while though as this might involve altering the very interface of the site.
Regs
Barun
Communicator said
LUEN
GO BACK MY FRIEND FROM WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM!!!
So go back to nepal.
PERIOD
Luen said
Communicator,
Thankyou for sending me off to Nepal but let me inform you that my home is Darjeeling and no matter that I move from one State to the other in India as my job warrants it but MY HOME IS DARJEELING.
Visiting Nepal once in a while is good and why not as we are pretty well Brothers-in-Arms!!! As for you my friend I still maintain that you should crawl back from where you originated from as we do not like the likes of you making stupid & silly comments.
Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland
Luen Lama
JTM said
Once Gorkhaland is formed wonder what will happen to us Gorkhas from Himachal and uttarkahnd. Will Gl also treat us like outsiders? What is all this Go Back nonsense? By syaing all this you are effectually lending credence to the Nepalis are illegal migrants misconception which we all know is incorrect accordinmg to the 1950 treaty. No Nepali in India is illegal and vice versa
PPA said
Barun – have you heard of craigslist.org ? you can try and begin something like that. it would be a great service enhancing what you have already done. since we visit your blog so often, you could take that one step further. happy dasai and puja.. best wishes – prashant
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Prashant,
Yes, I was introduced to craigslist.org while watching the fantastic documentary on Internet on Discovery. Craigslist is fantastic. I trying to incorporate some essensce of it in Gorkhapedia.org. Please do feel free to create similar pages and edit Gorkhapedia.org.
Regs
Barun
khaskhas said
yaar barun the radio is not opening in my server.it says wrong file.what to do man?
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
I am presently working on it. Since I can only work on it live, you might have a problem at least for an hour. Inconvenience is regretted.
Regs
Barun
khaskhas said
thank you man.i salute your humility and prompt response.
happy dasain
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your kind words.
Happy Dasain.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Hi Barun,
Wishing you and your team a very happy Dasain n Depawali
Cheers
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much and we also wish you and your family a very very happy Dashai and Tihar.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
REf” Bimal Gurung in Delhi #7
I have strong objections to Rubin Tamang’s comment. He has made a personal insult to my character and dignity. And misuse of my presence here. If the youth of Darj indulge in such loose talk like Rubin no wonder they deserve two tight slaps.
Dear Barun please kindly insert my strong objection to this man. No wonder very few ladies participate on this blog because there are male chauvinist pigs around with chauvinistic and sexual harassment traits.
If this Rubin was in front of me I would have had him booked in jail good and proper for making derogatory remarks on gender bias.
And Rubin if you do not apologise I shall make a legal complaint via beacononline.
aardee said
Barun,
The process for inserting news/views/data in the Gorkhapaedia is very complicated.
Is there no way u can give us a subject line on the left column in your blog so that people can readily post their comments/info re Gorkhas whcih u could then categorise and put up on the Gorkhapaedia?
aardee said
My I suggest that the icon for PUBLIC GRIEVIANCE be made smaller & if you are going to use our TRICOLOUR do keep it right on top nut below some rodent pic about hot stimulating treks & tours…
After all Jhanda ooncha rahein hamara…
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
I have brought up the Tricolour and am presently creating a page where you could make entries for Gorkhapedia.org at Beacon Online, itself. I will also bring back ‘Save the Gorkhas’.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Hi Barun,
This is in reference to your comments blogged on the 21st of October: BLOGGERS PLS REFRAIN FROM ABUSING THE FORUMS!
I coulden’t agree with you more and appreciate the good work that you are doing for us bloggers by keeping us upto date with the latest news and views and people should refrain from abusing the forum and especially sending out threats to you and your family personally. What they acheive from all this rubbish makes one’s mind boggle!! If they the fellow bloggers could just stick to the basic rules and blog in good suggestions like many do on the forum it would be more justified and better reading.
Keep up the good job mate and don’t forget you have your more well wishers then hate mail senders!!
Good on you
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Lama,
Thank you very much for you kind words. Its what keeps me going.
Regs
Barun
aardee said
Thanks Barun look forward to the changes.
Luen said
CAN ANYONE OF OUR BLOGGER FRIENDS HELP!!!
A friend of mine and his wife would like to rent a bungalow type accomodation in Kalimpong and ready to pay a good rent if the accomodation is good. They are looking at long term renting approximately 2-3 years.
It would also be good if they could have a drive way to the house so that they can park their vehicle inside the property.
If any kind soul could get back to me I could pass on the info to them
Many thanks
Luen Lama
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Luen,
I will put in as a classified so that your friends could be helped.
Regs
Barun
Luen said
Thanks Barun,
You are a gentleman and a friend
Many thanks
Luen
M.Ahmed said
Barun Bro, have you got the book I sent? Pls acknowledge asap.
Regds.
M.Ahmed
barunroy said
Dear Mr. Ahmed,
Greetings from Darjeeling! I have not yet received the book but thank you very much. I will acknowledge the book as and when I receive it. Could you please let me know in which address you have sent the book?
Thank you once again to such a generous gift.
Regs
Barun
BT said
There is an email going around that shows a pic of a lady sitting on a couch with the indian flag on her feet. Does anyone know who she is and whats going on in the pic?
mr.nepali said
Do you mean this -> http://mutiny.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/godwoman-disrespects-the-national-flag/
BT said
Yes Mr. Nepali that is exactly the one I meant.
BT said
Seems quite old news, sorry to bring it up but i just received the mail recently and was curious.
JTM said
Daer barun
Has the 51 page memorandum by GJMM, been removed from Beacon?
Ranbir Thapa said
@JTM,
THE 51 PAGE MEMORANDUM BY GJM IS STILL THERE, CHECK OUT AT:
http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/paper-on-the-new-state-of-gorkhaland-document-submitted-by-gjm/
JTM said
Thanks ranbir
soulpower said
Mr Roy
Greetings from guwahati!Although a very macabre and heart tearing day, please bear the patience to go through what I wanted to put forward to you in a while.
1) Whos this budding young chap called Nanda whos a very talented photographer(i mean aside from his snaps on the blast)?
2) Since you have the time and patience to publish weekly tea market reports(although once in a while! – dont mind me just some creative criticism!), I can mail you a copy of the weekly tea market report that is published on a weekly basis from my office in calcutta in pdf format, so that you can put it up on your blog for all those interested.
Thats all for now!
Uve got my email id as hilanderai@gmail.com
Please revert at the earliest.
Warm Regards
Hilander
acme said
barun da maile himalayan darpan pahila parda 400% zoom garera adobe ma harthe,,tara asti dekhi zoom nai hunu choreko cha,,,newspaper parnu nai pako chueena,,,ke yo website ma problem ho?maile 2 –3 location ma garera check gare tara testai cha? plz fix it..
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
Let me check it out and get back to you immediately.
Regs
Barun
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
The flaw has been taken care of. Now you should be able to read without any problem. Please let me know if you face any more problem.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Pl kindly insert a profile on Indian Idol contestant Kapil Thapa of the 4/4 Gorkha Rifles. Thank you, Jyoti di. Jai Gorkha! Jai Jawan!
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Will do so immediately. Am watching Indian idol and praying for Kapil.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
Please load the article
‘The Many faces of Goonda Raj’
With Malice towards One and All by Khushwant Singh
HT November 1
THis weekly column ‘With Malice towards One and All’ is what i enjoy reading regularly.
Thank you
Jyoti didi
acme said
baron da himalayan darpan ko problem solve bhayo thank u so much..ani aja nov 1st ko HD ko page number 7 chai ulta vaeecha,,,but anyway thanx so much for providing da fresh news of our hills..
barunroy said
Dear Acme,
Please let me check out the Page number 7 and solve the problem too!
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Dear Barun
You can watch Mahima Chowdhury dancing on 9X channel at 8 PM tomorrow sunday.
Cheers Jyoti di
Doctor said
Good work guy!
JTM said
Dear Barun
I have raised objections to loose and false incriminations at me by Backbone. It is a violation of my presence on this blog. I hope you will concede to my requests. Thank you
barunroy said
Dear Jyotidi,
Greetings from Darjeeling! The comment in question has been deleted and Backbone asked not to make any further defamatory comments.
Regs
Barun
JTM said
Thank you Barun.
backbone said
THEIR ARE HUNDREADS OF COMMENTS AGAINST THE BENGALI AND OTHER COMMUNITIES BY VARIOUS BLOGGERS EXIST IN THIS SITE. A GOOD NUMBER OF SLANG AND PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE ALSO HERE. SO, THEIR IS NOTHING TO ANGRY . IF YOU DONT LIKE MY COMMENTS, SIMPLY IGNORE. A GOOD NUMBER SUPPORTERS OF GREATER GORKHALAND OR NEPAL IS ALSO HERE. WHICH IS ACTUALY ANTI INDIAN. BUT THE SAKE OF VERBAL DEMOCRACY BARUN IS ACCOMODATE ALL. THIS IS THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NATURE OF BARUN. THANKS BARUN.
JTM said
I cannot understand which century and mindset are we living in?
Today when Barack Obama, 1st generation American, son of a black Kenyan IMMIGRANT stands to almost become the President of America, people here saying GO BACK here and GO BACK there!!!!!!
and hounding Nepalis living legitimately here for over a century!!!!!!!!!
worst of all the WB govt themselves calling Nepalis as migrants in a disdainfull manner!!!!!!!
YO For OBAMA!!!
RAJA said
Not WB govt. is saying thast JTM….that was said by subhash bowmick and ashok bhattacharya….by the way I know subhash bowmick …. he is a tagged person ….have made many controvertial comments earlier also….dont hv much ideas about ashok bhattacharya.
backbone said
W.B. GOVT GIVES THOUSANDS OF CRORES TO DARJEELING FOR DEVELOPMENT. BUT, YOUR LEADERS LOOTED ALL THE MONEY. DARJEELING IS SECOND RICHEST DIST OF THE W.B. IN INDIA THEIR IS UNITY IN DIVERSITY SAME IN A STATE OF W.B. HUNDREADS OF COMMUNITIES LIVE PEACFULLY IN W.B. IN INDIA DEMOCRACY IS VERY MUCH PREVELENT. ONE POOR MUSLIM SON OF A PRIEST FROM SOUTHERN MOST CORNER OF INDIA CAN BE PRESIDENT OF INDIA. MINORITIES ARE VERY MUCH PROTECTED IN INDIA. IF, ANY BODY HAVE TALENT CAN REACH THE TOP IN ANY FIELD IRRESPECT OF CASTE AND CREED. BEFORE BOOSTING FOR AMERICA ONE MUST PRAISE THE LARGEST DEMOCRACY OF THE WORLD. BUT, ANY BODY TRY TO MALIGN INDIA AND TRY TO DISTRUB HER. NO INDIAN WILL EXCUSE THEM. NO BODY HOUNDING ANY COMMUNITY PARTICULAR , ONLY HOUNDING ANTI INDIAN PEPOLE MAY BE FROM ANY COMMUNITY. THEIR IS BLACK SHIP IN EVERY COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO IGNORE THEM.
JTM said
What are you telling us all this for? We Gorkhas from nepal and india have been defending India for years! From Pakistan, China and till date are daily controlling all your insurgents, extremists. The iNdian army including Gorkha regts are evn right now engaged in CI (Counter Insurgent) operations in jungles, dizzy heights, LOCs while you are screeching over here. Our army is in a never-ending war. With winter coming it is going to be so difficult for our jawans on the borders. Kya patriotism dikah raha hai?
RAJA said
jtm,
every soldiers are doing their duty….whether he is from gorkha/naga/jaat/maratha/punjabi/rajput/bihari/bangali/kanada/bodo/adibasis….everyone…..not only gorkhas are defending but also all others indian soldiers….if a non gorkha read your above blog then he will surely think that you are only concern about about gorkhas loyalty…but fact is that every soldiers are loyal to his country…it doesn’t matter which community he belongs….
…………………………………………………………..
Just read your first 2 lines…” What are you telling us all this for? We Gorkhas from nepal and india have been defending India for years! From Pakistan, China and “”"”"till date are daily controlling all your insurgents, extremists.”"”"”"”……
your insurgence means?? dont you think India is yours too?? then why you have used the words “your insurgents”……it’s totally unacceptable words from a educated people like you.
backbone said
YOU ARE RIGHT RAJA. PL FIRST TRY TO BE A TRUE INDIAN BY HEART AND SOUL. DONT TRY TO MIX UP POLITICS WITH INDIAN ARMY. OUR ARMY IS THE BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD. THEY USE “WE” AND “OUR” INSTEAD OF “YOU” OR “I”. THIS IS THE TRUE INDIAN CULTURE. WE ALL MUST BE PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN. IT IS OUR DUTY TO SAVE INDIA FROM THE DIVISIVE FORCES SUPPORTED BY CHINA,I.S.I. ETC. JAI HIND.
mr.nepali said
Backbone, Dont guess …. Proove it…. Who knows you’re an I.S.I agent or someone from China.
mr.nepali said
And secondly, just read the news, brwose the site, listen to the songs … BUT don’t talk crap unnecessarily without proof, cos thats what crap is.
backbone said
HI, FIRST PROOF, WHERE FROM GJMM, UGRA GETTING MONEY. EVERY INDIAN KNOWS THE LAVISH LIFESTYLE OF GJMM LEADERS, WHOSE MONEY IS IT. READ LAST WEEKS ALL THE NEWS PAPERS (INCLUDING THE TELEGRAPH, ANANDBAZAR, UTTARBANGA SAMBAD). EVERY SECURITY AGENCIES DOUBTING FOREIGHN HANDS IN GJMM ACTIVITIES. MR TAMTA (I.G.) DIRECTLY HINTED NEPAL MAOBADIS INVOLMENT IN DARJEELING IN A RECENT INTERVIEW IN E TV. DONT THINK, YOU ARE ONLY CLEVER OTHERS ARE BLIND. TODAY EVERY TRUE INDIAN IS CONCERN ABOUT THE SECURITY AND GROWING ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES IN THIS REGION.
backbone said
TODAY, THIS SEPARATIST MOVMENT BY GJMM WITH THE HELP OF FORIGHN HANDS MAKE DARJEELING A MESS. TOURISTS ARE BLACKLISTED DARJEELING. SECOND RICHEST DIST OF W.B. DUE TO FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF CENTRAL AND STATE ARE LOOSING ITS GLORY. OUTSIDERS STUDENTS PULLING OUT THEM FROM HILLS SCHOOL. INFACT LEPCHAS, BHUTIAS, BENGALIS , MARWARIS, BIHARIS ETC ARE COMPLETLY AGAINST FORMATION OF GL. SOME GOONDA WITH THE HELP OF FOREIGHN MONEY NOW RULE THE AREA. GJMM INTENTIONALY CREATING COMMUNAL DIVISION TO MAKE THIS REGION DISTRUBE.
mr.nepali said
backbone, dont forget to claim the prize
JTM said
# 361
Raja
Pl remember one thing. While there are Indian soldiers including Indian Gorkhas. The majority in the Gorklha regiments are from Nepal. 60: 40. While we take pride in our soldiers let us NOT forget Nepal as a foreign country contributing to our defence since 1815. And let us not talk about money needs, etc. The loyalty and valour of the soldiers from Nepal is of the type even money cannot procure. And today frankly even Indian men are not keen on joining the army though our defence is hard-pressed with the kind of continuous insurgency and terrorism problems India is increasingly fraught with. There is a shortage of 800 officers! The amount of defence personnel taking premature retirement is huge.
And I hope we Indians have the grace to appreciate that.
Nepal has faced diplomatic issues over this with countries like Pakistan and China over the soldiers traditionally only for Britain and India. Yet she continues to allow her sons for us.
Raja I did not expect you to get in a mere word like ‘ours’ or ‘yours’ in comment which had wider and more important connotations. And that too over a retort to ‘Backbone’
Thank you Nepal for providing us your brave sons.
RAJA said
There are lot of indians (natives) work in Gorkha regiment…..most of the officers are indian in gorkha regiments…..
you have given thanks to nepal providing its brave sons …good….at the same time request your nepali friends (nepali citizen) to say thank India and England for providing employment aveneus….instead of doing it they are taking anti indian anti govt. of India….they should feel shame.
RAJA said
typing mistake…it would be ‘talking anti…’ instead of ‘taking anti….’ at last like
JTM said
Raja, please kindly do not place any soldier in any ‘employment’ terminology. Never Never Never equate a Human life in any such a manner. I am shocked at you.
You know it is this attitude that has made them anti-Indian. INdia is way ahead of Nepal in evry sphere. We do not have to make them feel obliged to us for whatever help we may extend to Nepal or any other country for that matter.
WE should feel ashamed to expect gratitude from those we help.
They are also human beings and have self-respect. Such like we have.
In India also we have had droughts and famine when food packets from the UN or US were dropped on us.
We still receive charity material for the poor from foreign countries.
RAJA said
Since last latur eartj quake India have not received any foreign aids …nor in tsunami too….we have extended our helping hands though we were also bad affected due to it….any informations regaarding India’s foreign aids during natural calamity after Latur earth quake???
Everyone has self respect …I accept that….but dont accept nemaak harami!! Jiska help lu wo se kai baadnam karta feru…this attitute never accepted…..this’is not the issue of taking gratitute from them!!
JTM said
Dont forget that millions of Indians have migrated to foreign countries working from janitors to top level professions. How do you feel when some of them express a patronising attitude towards us. We hate it right?
RAJA said
When our 40% country men live below poverty line and hardly get two times meal though India is helping its poor neighbours….they (citizen of our neighbours) should accept that reality and should not talk anti indians….
RAJA said
# 373,
If she/he has change his citizenship then he/she should show loyalty to his/her present country else he/she would be called as GADDAR selfish jo kisi eek ka thali mein khata hain aur kisi aur ka gungaan gata hain…is not it?? do you support gaddars???
And if they have migrated for works but still holding indian citizenship then they can show loyalty to his own country and express patronising attitute to us…that’s good only.
JTM said
Have you been to Nepal and seen how Indians behave? I once rudely pushed aside by a bunch of aggresive tourist women from Delhi, from a queue. They thought I was Nepalese. Though Nepal needs the Indian tourists, the way they behave there is shamefull. Anyway, lets close this topic.
In fact these days, I feel sorry for all immigrants nowadays, legal or illegal, Nepali or Bangaldeshi. Noone leaves his or her home just like that. there is a need. Everyone is unhappy. All terrorists, extremists, insurgents are unhappy people. And the more we rebuke them the more fanatical they become.
After all this is mother earth. Every human being has a right to live anywhere. But it is always a conflict of the powerfull and the weak, the fortunate and the unfortunate, the selfish and the humble, the dominating and the dominated. And EGO! Pride of the powerfull and pride of the powerless. All eating into each other.
That is why I did a review of the book of Ram. A man born king but lived in the jungles. A life filled with duties…… as a son, as a brother, as a husband, as a king when he had to sacrifice his wife and children, as a destroyer of evil… his life was never his own but one of constant sacrifice for others. Finally when he felt his duties was over, he walked into the River sarayu and ended his life.
RAJA said
JTM what’s the attitute of kathmandu peoples towards their own country brothers MADHESIS (indian origin nepali citizens) we all know….no need to go to Kathmandu…come darjeeling or gangtok and see what’s the attitute of local inhabitants (mostly nepali) towards bihari sabjiwalas/paanwalas or peoples of indian origin….he behaviour you got in delhi by some of indian ladies is not acceptable….but the attitute towards indian origins in darj is quite same….pplz laught after watching their dress sense, way of talking etcs….and this real fact…..no one can cross my points here as dar/gangtok is very much familier to me….
Migrant upto certain limits or at a certain time due to circumstance is acceptable….but India is not money producng machine that everyone (from our neighbour countries) will start migrating from his land and come to india and if he/she dont get that then resenment starts….why we will support more migrants?? for what?? when our own brothers are living in slums and hardly getting two times food!!!
It’s enough …no more migration as our population has crossed 100 crores….even country like USA (most wealthy and prosperous country)has stopped migration from it’s poor neighbours….our govt. should think this issue carefully….
africa is also in earth …. it’s my request to all my neighbours govt. send their unwanted population to africa as there are lotta lands there….
backbone said
YOU ARE RIGHT RAJA. IN DARJEELING HILLS/SIKKIM LOCAL NEPALIS ARE VERY RUDE TOWARDS BHAIYAS. RECENTLY, IT HAS BEEN INCREASE MANIFOLD DUE TO THE ANTI INDIAN MOVEMENT BY GJMM. SPECIALY IN DARJEELING THEY EXTORTED MONEY FROM NON NEPALIS FORCEFULLY. IN THE NAME OF PRASHANT TAMANG THEY EVEN FORCED TOURIST TO SENT MESSAGES AND PAY MONEY. MOST OF THE EDUCATED MINDS OF NEPALIS IN INDIA ARE STILL CONSIDERS THEMSELF AS PEOPLE OF NEPAL AND USE “YOU” WHEN REFER TO AN INDIAN NOT “WE”. THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.
backbone said
RECENTLY OUR HOME SECERATARY MR MADHUKAR GUPTA RAISED THE ISSUE OF SECURITY OF INDIAN IN NEPAL TO NEPALS SECERATARY. IT IS NOT A BLAME GAME BUT FACT.
JTM said
Arrey even I have been told that I am ‘very Indian’ and that the Dharamshala Gorkhas are very ‘Indian’, so what are you feeling bad about?
JTM said
BTW Raja I got pushed out of the line by Delhi women at the Kathmandu airport.
backbone said
DEFINETLY THAT DELHI WOMEN VISITED DARJEELING ON THE MONTH OF JUNE 2008. AS PER THE REPORT KATHMANDU HAVING A VERY ANTI INDIAN FEELINGS NOW A DAYS AND INDIAN TOURIST ARE HARDLY ABLE TO VENTURE OUT AFTER EVENING. IF THAT INCIDENT IS TRUE, THEN THE NEXT LINE IS ” I HAVE GIVE HER A STRONG THAPPER”.
RAJA said
JTM,
I have never raised question upon you reagring feeling like indians….you are saccha indian and most of darj/sikkim guys too…but some of them are thinker of greater nepal….jiis thali mein khata hain wo si mein ee ched!!….I feel shame on them.After staying here for 2/3 generations their mind didn’t change or they have come just few years back!!!
Back bone,
what I have written attitute towards indian biharis/marwaris by the hill peoples in darj or gangtok is 100% correct….no one can cross this….this attitute shoould end fast as we all are Indians …. it’s not good to use words like “we” for locals & “you” for other indians from plains. If this is the attitute how can they think they will get everyone’s support for their statehood movement??
Hackman said
Hey boneless Back,
Anti-Indian feeling is widespread in the world as is anti american.East Africa, Malaysia, even in Saarc countries, so do not make a big fuss about it.
backbone said
BUT NO ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED IN INDIAN SOIL. OTHERS COUNTRIES ARE JEALOUS OF OUR ECONOMIC SUCCESS AS THEY ARE JEALOUS OF AMERICAS SUCEESS. NOTHING NEW ON IT. BUT, THOSE ARE LIVING ON INDIAN SOIL AND INDULGED IN ANTI INDIAN ACTIVITIES MUST BE SHOOT IN BLANK POINT.
RAJA said
Hackman India hasn’t pour pounds of bomb on its neighbour countries…then why this anti indian sentiment?? we always have helped them…..
On the other hand anti American feeling has been spread due to its foreign policy mainly wars in afganistan and Iraq…..creating pressures on iran and N.Korea…..but is anything India did with its neighbours?? then why this anti indian feelings….these kind of anti indian feelings only expected from citizen of countries like pakistan and china…
Hackman said
Look there could be many reasons for such feelings you have to be in that country to know it better. Backless bone pointed out jealousy, ha..ha… Anyway you can’t shoot BLANK POINT cause if you do you will lose one bullet for nothing.
RAJA said
Hackman,
But if this anti indian sentiments continues then should not you think we stop helping them and tell them to take help from some others who they think their real friend country….waisting of money but no appreciation in return….hack man dont you believe that every relationship depends on both side’s attitute!! If I extend my hand towards you for shaking hand and in return if you try to twist my hand then do you think I will approch to you again?? Even India govt. has reduced its help towards bangladesh because of anti indian activities by their govt. …if nepal and its citizen continues this for long then same thing will happen to nepal also…let see who is coming for help!! mostly china as Mr. Prachanda (very much loyal to china) is on power.
pseude said
hackman and backbone…wow!
Hackman said
Pseude…wow…wow…wow!!!
Amit Bhandari said
Happy Birthday Barun! May all your dreams come true! God Bless You
Ranbir Thapa said
A VERY VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARUN!
Anil Roy said
Barun, wishing you a very very happy birthday from your family in Kolkata!
Anil, Baiju, Tarak, Usha, Miradidi, Biku, Uncle, Aunty and the friends at Ultadanga, Kankurgachi and Salt Lake.
সুভজন্মদন্
Anita said
A very Happy Birthday to you Barun!
from your Swedish friends
Anita & Pierre
You´re the best!
What a day this November 4th starting here in two hours time!
Your birthday and the for-the-whole-world-important
presidential election in the U.S.
Have to go to bed now in order to be fresh for Tuesday
JTM said
Jug jug jiyo mero bhai Barun. Janam din ko hardik badhai mero bahi Barun lai.
pranavesh said
Dear Barun, a very Happy Birthday to you. May you have a great year ahead!
Best Regards..
Shailendra Pradhan said
A VERY VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDDY!
BT said
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
backbone said
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BARUN. KEEP YOU HEAD HIGH IN EVERY SITUATION AND YOUR DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPAL EVER.
A said
A very very happy birthday Barun, you are the best! God Bless You!
Rakesh Agarwal said
जन्मदिन मुबारक हो! Barun you are doing a great job, keep it up.
Amit Bhandari said
Happy Birthday, Barun bhai
YKS said
Many Happy Returns of the day Bhai. Jiyo Hazaro Saal!!
mr.nepali said
Happy BirthDay!!!!!
cheeers!
JTM said
Congratulations to Indian American Sonal Shah, appointed on the US Presidents adivisory team.
From Proud Indian Gorkhas
Luen said
JTM my friend why the congratulation message to American Sonal Shah, ask if she is Indian and will definately say excuse me but I am American!! why the obsession of claiming these people to be Indians!! My friend ask me I know what their answer will be!!
Don’t waste your breath for someone we don’t even know!!
Be prepared to congratulate our Gorkhaland leaders and fighters instead when the day does eventually arrive!!!!
Gorkhaland Indian
Luen Lama
JTM said
Dear Luen We are also like her.
Indians of Nepali origin.
WE should also aspire to be like her.
Make it the top brass of India without the Gorkha props.
Barack Obama made it without getting emotional about being black. But once he made it. The whole world acclaimed him as the first black president of USA.
Without harping about it, we stll can retain our identity
I hope you understand.
aardee said
Good to see u got UTI ad
barunroy said
Dear Aardeedi,
Greetings from Darjeeling!
Thank you. Am working very hard on that since Beacon Online was in the very of shutting down.
Did you download Safari? It seems that you are now being able to comment. Please let me know if you have any problem.
Regs
Barun